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KMO
02-27-08, 12:13 PM
Just been compiling a "complete(ish) Madonna" DVD-Audio from my CD collection, and in the process I've just discovered the QSound effects on The Immaculate Collection.

This is the first time I'd heard of QSound, or heard that the disc had been mixed using it, and I don't remember the last time I'd listened to the compilation (or if I ever had on my main A/V system), so I thought I'd better check it out.

I was initially extremely skeptical, and the first minute or so of listening was a bit weird, but it's actually rather impressive.

The process, as I understand it, is a plug-in to the mixing desk that lets you pan the individual mix elements in a 360 degree circle using psycho-acoustic trickery. And it works. :eek:

Various elements have been panned to 90-degree left, 90-degree right, panning behind the listener, etc, and it's all quite fun. In some cases the rear imaging was actually better than I'm currently achieving from my real 5-channel surround disks (which suggests I need to work on my setup - things tend to be too clearly coming from a particular speaker rather than forming a solid soundfield with smooth panning).

If you haven't given this disc a good listen, try it out. It's designed for 2-channel speaker playback, not headphones. You need to be firmly in the sweet spot, and I'd recommend the standard speaker positioning of L/R speakers and listener forming an equilateral triangle. And don't engage any funny modes like Pro Logic - put it in straight 2-channel stereo.

Tell me what you think.

I'm not sure I'd appreciate discs generally using this process, but for a compilation it's quite fun, and gives you another way of listening to the tracks. Not as good as proper multichannel, obviously, but listening to the surround mixes on this album gave me a feel as to how some of the tracks could be approached in a real multichannel mix.

007james
02-27-08, 02:04 PM
Just been compiling a "complete(ish) Madonna" DVD-Audio from my CD collection, and in the process I've just discovered the QSound effects on The Immaculate Collection.

This is the first time I'd heard of QSound, or heard that the disc had been mixed using it, and I don't remember the last time I'd listened to the compilation (or if I ever had on my main A/V system), so I thought I'd better check it out.

I was initially extremely skeptical, and the first minute or so of listening was a bit weird, but it's actually rather impressive.

The process, as I understand it, is a plug-in to the mixing desk that lets you pan the individual mix elements in a 360 degree circle using psycho-acoustic trickery. And it works. :eek:

Various elements have been panned to 90-degree left, 90-degree right, panning behind the listener, etc, and it's all quite fun. In some cases the rear imaging was actually better than I'm currently achieving from my real 5-channel surround disks (which suggests I need to work on my setup - things tend to be too clearly coming from a particular speaker rather than forming a solid soundfield with smooth panning).

If you haven't given this disc a good listen, try it out. It's designed for 2-channel speaker playback, not headphones. You need to be firmly in the sweet spot, and I'd recommend the standard speaker positioning of L/R speakers and listener forming an equilateral triangle. And don't engage any funny modes like Pro Logic - put it in straight 2-channel stereo.

Tell me what you think.

I'm not sure I'd appreciate discs generally using this process, but for a compilation it's quite fun, and gives you another way of listening to the tracks. Not as good as proper multichannel, obviously, but listening to the surround mixes on this album gave me a feel as to how some of the tracks could be approached in a real multichannel mix.

Sting's 3rd cd is also recorded using Qsound

Jim85IROC
02-28-08, 11:21 AM
Paula Abdul's "Rush Rush" cd has this as well. I'm actually quite fond of that cd, and have always been impressed by the spatious sound of some of the tracks, likely due to the q-sound. While it always sounded a bit artificial to me, I still found it to be a very neat effect.

JBLsound4645
02-28-08, 11:43 AM
Was never aware of this> I’ve heard of Qsound since the early 1990’s when I saw it being demonstrated on BBC science television program “Tomorrows World”.

I have the two versions of the (Madonna The Immaculate Collection) one CD and the other on VHS tape which I have transferred to DVD-RW and it includes “Oh Father” and minus a few tracks which aren’t included, I’m sure you aware of that.

Madonna "Oh Father" (1989)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVTedV7DciI

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I see there DVD available which I might buy at later time.

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I like tight rhythm and melody on Oh Father though the JBL 4645 when diverting the lows below 80Hz gives it nice club slam sound and focus of instrumental over the JBL control 5-1 series at the fronts when set in LCR mode is also brilliant. Matrix surround adds nice wrap-around but there is crosstalk given the nature of the matrix.

“Live to Tell” is one of my favourites with moody bass tone opening that slowly excels upwards to nice slow drum and bass kick that slams and punches into the body, a few musical effects appear to steer away from the fronts and onto the surrounds when the action of music mellows down for few moments along with the lyrics, nice track.