I was talking to a fiend yesterday. This was a guy who, after a movie/sports/beer session at my house, became an FP convert. We agreed that owning a good PJ with a large screen caused us to feel the following.

1.In terms of image and sound, commercial cinemas are, to me at least, the AV equivalent of a communal open air latrine.

2.When I watch a TV at home its a very "whatever" sort of experience. More than that though, I find I really don't give a sh*t about the picture, so long as its not horrific. I just don't care.

The ferryman always collects.

Anyone else find the same?


PS Alan, Im not dissing 35mm.:D

Ive just seen my first domestic film set up and will post some thoughts soon. It was a very positive experience. You've planted a seed.

Same exact feeling, sold my G90 and thought I could watch rear projection TV in the kids den until my new HT5000 arrived, within 24 hours I started jonesing ran out to every local store to find a front projector to hold me over. Settled on a Sony VW60, I didn't think I would miss my projector so so much.

You think it's bad now, wait until you've lived with the 5K for awhile.:D

Even my 70" Sony XBR, which I thought was "it" is "just another TV in the house."

Jim

Ive just seen my first domestic film set up and will post some thoughts soon. It was a very positive experience. You've planted a seed.



Glad to hear you visited a private a screening:)
Not only do I enjoy a good film once in a while I find it a real treat & the ultimate learning tool. It can be used as a reference to compare our digital displays and source to the original film.
Be forewarned this can be dangerous, watching film ( not all film transfers are created equal ) projected properly can be an eye opener. Very sharp and detailed without any edge enhancement or noise reduction. No funky gamma curves in fade out or fade in from black. No posturization. Rich saturated colors that still cannot be reproduced by our home cinema displays and sources.
You will notice in most film transfers the lighting in every scene is vastly superior to our digital displays. You clearly see more detail without any black crush or crushed whites.

As good as we think our best displays are, watching film in a private environment will quickly educate you on areas in need of improvement with our digital setups. The downside of film, it's labor intense but a real treat :)

Here is my Christie.
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/509/IMG_68201.JPG

:eek:;) Bruzonsky's next purchase:D
Glad to hear you visited a private a screening:)
Not only do I enjoy a good film once in a while I find it a real treat & the ultimate learning tool. It can be used as a reference to compare our digital displays and source to the original film.
Be forewarned this can be dangerous, watching film ( not all film transfers are created equal ) projected properly can be an eye opener. Very sharp and detailed without any edge enhancement or noise reduction. No funky gamma curves in fade out or fade in from black. No posturization. Rich saturated colors that still cannot be reproduced by our home cinema displays and sources.
You will notice in most film transfers the lighting in every scene is vastly superior to our digital displays. You clearly see more detail without any black crush or crushed whites.

As good as we think our best displays are, watching film in a private environment will quickly educate you on areas in need of improvement with our digital setups. The downside of film, it's labor intense but a real treat :)

Here is my Christie.
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/509/IMG_68201.JPG

Glad to hear you visited a private a screening:)
Not only do I enjoy a good film once in a while I find it a real treat & the ultimate learning tool. It can be used as a reference to compare our digital displays and source to the original film.
Be forewarned this can be dangerous, watching film ( not all film transfers are created equal ) projected properly can be an eye opener. Very sharp and detailed without any edge enhancement or noise reduction. No funky gamma curves in fade out or fade in from black. No posturization. Rich saturated colors that still cannot be reproduced by our home cinema displays and sources.
You will notice in most film transfers the lighting in every scene is vastly superior to our digital displays. You clearly see more detail without any black crush or crushed whites.

As good as we think our best displays are, watching film in a private environment will quickly educate you on areas in need of improvement with our digital setups. The downside of film, it's labor intense but a real treat :)

Here is my Christie.
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/509/IMG_68201.JPG

How long does it take to put a film in it? Probably still faster then some bluray players to boot up :D

Same exact feeling, sold my G90 and thought I could watch rear projection TV in the kids den until my new HT5000 arrived, within 24 hours I started jonesing ran out to every local store to find a front projector to hold me over. Settled on a Sony VW60, I didn't think I would miss my projector so so much.

A friend said he just bought a VW60 on close out at a local Ultimate Electronics for $600. Mebbe he was early April foolin' me?

In terms of image and sound, commercial cinemas are, to me at least, the AV equivalent of a communal open air latrine.




We always hear this from everyone at AVS to justify their own video display or projector purchase.

I agree there are lotsa theaters out there than just don't do film justice, picture and/or sound, and I don't wanna watch movies there.

But there are some really good theaters, too.

At least 80% or more of the time that my friends (sometimes even my wife) go to Tempe Marketplace Harkins (which includes the Cine Capri, largest theater in Az, curved screen), the picture and sound is great for a movie theater. I like to sit back 3-4 rows from the back, in the center, and the sound is just right, too.

Technically as good as my home - maybe not in some ways. But still really excellent most of the time, with a great big honkin' picture and excellent movie theater sonics that I have no problem enjoying. All of the Harkins Theaters at this complex are decent size and similar characteristics seatingwise, picture and sound in my experience.

The other month I went to a new Harkins Theater, San Tan Mall. Small theater, lousy experience, a first for me at a Harkins. I won't go back there.

But with my BIG CINEMASCOPE PICTURE COMING SOON it will be hard to go out to a movie unless its supposed to be a really great one. But I will from time to time.

Same exact feeling, sold my G90 and thought I could watch rear projection TV in the kids den until my new HT5000 arrived, within 24 hours I started jonesing ran out to every local store to find a front projector to hold me over. Settled on a Sony VW60, I didn't think I would miss my projector so so much.

What'd ya get for the G90?

Did you sell your old screen yet. Just sold mine - have a crating/packing/shipping company coming to take it tomorrow. Didn't get what I'd like for it - but an 8 year old 4 way masking screen 16:9 only 80" wide is in much demand, as all the folks with digital projectors go bigger even though most probably shouldn't. HA!

:eek:;) Bruzonsky's next purchase:D

My next purchase - woops. Your turn to buy dinner here in Scts this year
(Mark's coming to town.)

Mark, my screen will be up when you come, so you're gonna have to come visit Gilbert and see how you need to spend some $$$ and upgrade from your "lowly" RS-1. HA!

We always hear this from everyone at AVS to justify their own video display or projector purchase.

I agree there are lotsa theaters out there than just don't do film justice, picture and/or sound, and I don't wanna watch movies there.

But there are some really good theaters, too.

At least 80% or more of the time that my friends (sometimes even my wife) go to Tempe Marketplace Harkins (which includes the Cine Capri, largest theater in Az, curved screen), the picture and sound is great for a movie theater. I like to sit back 3-4 rows from the back, in the center, and the sound is just right, too.

Technically as good as my home - maybe not in some ways. But still really excellent most of the time, with a great big honkin' picture and excellent movie theater sonics that I have no problem enjoying. All of the Harkins Theaters at this complex are decent size and similar characteristics seatingwise, picture and sound in my experience.

The other month I went to a new Harkins Theater, San Tan Mall. Small theater, lousy experience, a first for me at a Harkins. I won't go back there.

But with my BIG CINEMASCOPE PICTURE COMING SOON it will be hard to go out to a movie unless its supposed to be a really great one. But I will from time to time.

Having just seen the full capabilities of 35mm for the first time, on Alan's advice, I am even more disappointed in cinema images than i was before. The difference was huge. I'll jot down some thoughts as I think its relevant to this forum.

What'd ya get for the G90?

Did you sell your old screen yet. Just sold mine - have a crating/packing/shipping company coming to take it tomorrow. Didn't get what I'd like for it - but an 8 year old 4 way masking screen 16:9 only 80" wide is in much demand, as all the folks with digital projectors go bigger even though most probably shouldn't. HA!

$5500 cash and carry for G90, $2000 cash and carry for 72 x96 horizontal masking stewart screenwall after the new screen is installed.

AND I had to run out and order a VW60 after 24 hours, anybody want to buy a slightly used VW60?

My next purchase - woops. Your turn to buy dinner here in Scts this year
(Mark's coming to town.)

Mark, my screen will be up when you come, so you're gonna have to come visit Gilbert and see how you need to spend some $$$ and upgrade from your "lowly" RS-1. HA!

Monday night come over to the Hyatt Gainey Ranch!

Glad to hear you visited a private a screening:)

Here is my Christie.
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/509/IMG_68201.JPG


The very notion that your guests get invited to "view a private screening" rather than simply "watch a DVD" is sounding pretty sweet at this point.:D


I believe that is the same or similar model I saw, it had 35 on it for sure and was a Christie.