http://dtv.bsat.net/pc-16-2-coship-9900t-ntia-certified-convertor-box.aspx

Anyone have any experience with this CECB? What caught my interest was the "7 days Electronic Program Guide (EPG)".

Also listed in the specs is "Picture in graphics (PIG) supported". What's that?

PIG - Means it gives you a smaller window of whatever channel you have tuned in when you go into the guide and/or possibly other screens.

The problem with them advertising a 7-day EPG is that the stations often don't put out 7 days of EPG data. I think they are supposed to do 3 days minimum, but one of my local stations (WCAU-DT) is putting out no guide data at all, and one of the others is giving less than 12 hours.

The problem with them advertising a 7-day EPG is that the stations often don't put out 7 days of EPG data. I think they are supposed to do 3 days minimum, but one of my local stations (WCAU-DT) is putting out no guide data at all, and one of the others is giving less than 12 hours.


FCC rules REQUIRE 12 hours minimum. I send 48 hours of EPG on my stations.

PIG - Means it gives you a smaller window of whatever channel you have tuned in when you go into the guide and/or possibly other screens.

I googled "Picture in graphics (PIG)" and only came up with one article and it was about Samsung, written in 2004, before they released the DTB-H260F. I wonder if the internals of this box are Samsung?


FCC rules REQUIRE 12 hours minimum. I send 48 hours of EPG on my stations.

Most stations in my range do similar. I was wondering if the 7 day EPG meant it might get a Gemstar guide, or if it just means the unit has enough memory to hold 7 days worth of data, if available.

Highly doubt it. PIG isn't something Samsung came up with. It's exactly what mjones said; it displays whatever you are watching in a smaller window over the EPG. Satellite and cable box manufacturers have been including this feature in their boxes for years.

Has anyone purchased this box?

I am interested in this box also -- supposed to have the LG chip-set.

If anyone has one of these already..a mini-review would be much appreciated. The clock is ticking...coupons are already in self-destruct mode.:rolleyes:

The reason that the coupons are good for but 90 days is that was what the representatives in Congress specified. It will take an Act of Congress to change that. Contact your Representatives.

http://dtv.bsat.net/pc-16-2-coship-9900t-ntia-certified-convertor-box.aspx

Anyone have any experience with this CECB? What caught my interest was the "7 days Electronic Program Guide (EPG)".

Also listed in the specs is "Picture in graphics (PIG) supported". What's that?Hit "Browse Products Here" on that page, and you'll also see an "Artec" CECB tuner, which will only cost 5 bucks.

Hit "Browse Products Here" on that page, and you'll also see an "Artec" CECB tuner, which will only cost 5 bucks.

Yea, that caught my eye as it supposedly runs on 12v.. and may be good for use with battery portable Tv's.. Not sure I want to use one of my cards for the Artec tho..

Yea, that caught my eye as it supposedly runs on 12v.. and may be good for use with battery portable Tv's..Didn't even notice that part.

The problem with them advertising a 7-day EPG is that the stations often don't put out 7 days of EPG data. I think they are supposed to do 3 days minimum, but one of my local stations (WCAU-DT) is putting out no guide data at all, and one of the others is giving less than 12 hours.
Oh so true. In my area 12 hrs is the norm. Occasionally they will go out 3 days, maybe when the person entering in the data is having a slow day, otherwise it's much less.
I was hoping something like the Echostar TR-40 would use a guide system other than the PCIP ones, which most boxes seem to rely on. Something like what their TR-50 will have(Gemstar?). Maybe I'm just dreaming. If they all rely on PCIP I guess the current/next program guides might not be such a big deal. 7 days for PCIP is kind of a joke, unless things dramatically change.

Has anyone ordered this box yet?
BSAT no longer has it listed on the home page but you can see it and maybe order it here.
http://dtv.bsat.net/pc-16-2-coship-9900t-ntia-certified-convertor-box.aspx

We have the User Manual (http://ezdigitaltv.com/support-files/coship_n9900t_user_manual.pdf)thanks to ezdigitaltv
We also have a FCC ID VXF2007122901 (https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=798698&fcc_id='VXF2007122901')
With this we can see the internal and external photos.

What I would like to see the the EPG and how it was implemented for a 7 day guide

bSat is selling them again.
http://dtv.bsat.net/pc-16-2-coship-9900t-ntia-certified-convertor-box.aspx
$45.99 for the box and UPS Ground $10.94

If anyone does buy one please post what the EPG looks like and do a review.

Hmm... COSHIP also has another model listed on the NTIA website, the N9988T. I wonder how this model/unit differs?

bSat is selling them again.
http://dtv.bsat.net/pc-16-2-coship-9900t-ntia-certified-convertor-box.aspx
$45.99 for the box and UPS Ground $10.94

If anyone does buy one please post what the EPG looks like and do a review.

Looks like they completely redesigned the case...

Old
http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/images/coship_n9900t_dtv_converter_box.gif

New
http://dtv.bsat.net/images/PRODUCT/medium/ae00-1003.jpg

Symbios,

Where did you find a picture of the new Coship? I have been searching for N9988T information and have been unsuccessful.

The new image is on bsat's site: http://dtv.bsat.net/pc-16-2-coship-9900t-ntia-certified-convertor-box.aspx

this is unrelated but, How can i tell if my t.v already has a digital converter in it or not?

this is unrelated but, How can i tell if my t.v already has a digital converter in it or not?

Standard Disclaimer: The CECBs are only for over the air reception. If you only watch cable TV or satellite DBS, don't sweat the converter (for 2009).

What's the TV make and model?

The specifications in the owners manual should reference ATSC if it has a digital tuner. If you don't have the manual, the manufacturer's web site may have the specs.

Other clues:
Does the remote control have a "." button? One that says "EPG"? Was the TV manufactured in the last two years?

Well the problem is, a friend of mine was throwing this T.V out when i got it. I cant find the model number anywhere, and I also don't have a remote. Its in rough shape. all i know is its a big screen Mitsubishi probably about 3-4yrs old.

Well the problem is, a friend of mine was throwing this T.V out when i got it. I cant find the model number anywhere, and I also don't have a remote. Its in rough shape. all i know is its a big screen Mitsubishi probably about 3-4yrs old.

You're in luck. Mitsubishi has the Owner's Guides online for download. See
http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/j/i/18344/OwnersGuides.html?mid=142950

Without the model number, you'll have to poke around some to find the right guide, but it should be there, and it'd be worth downloading/saving/printing, IMO.

I glanced at a few at random. I didn't find an integral digital tuner before 2006. So, odds are good that you'd need a converter. However, if your TV is one of their large rear-projection units from 2004 or so, you might consider getting a set top box that outputs HD, instead of a CECB. That is, if you find out your TV is HD ready, like many of the recent large Mitsubishis.

It does look like I'll end up needing a converter box but thats fine, I just wanted to be sure before placing any orders, and now I also have brand new guides for my T.V. Thanks.

Does anyone have the Coship converter?

interesting that Saving lots site list the CoShip N9988T with the same design as the Promo picture except its black. http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.asp?item=N9988T
Think it would be nice to hear a review about this one and
if they did stick with the LGDT1111 SoC?

Does anyone have the Coship converter?

Mine should be here Monday.

bdfox18doe
You are getting a CoShip N9900T and not a CoShip N9988T right.

Looking at the user manual it looks very similar to the Artec menus.
I wonder if it has the same EPG as the Artec
(Looks like a plain Now/Next but can get more than an hour of data)

If you can please take a picture of the EPG.
You could also clear up what the "Picture in graphics (PIG)" means.

It also looks like it has ventilation holes unlike the Artec.
But the Artec does have a external power supply.
However there is no heat sink like the Tivax has.

bdfox18doe You are getting a CoShip N9900T and not a CoShip N9988T right..

Well, I ordered the 9900T from BSAT. I have seen several different pix, so until I get it an open the box up...:confused:

Standby..

Packaged in plain white box. Model N9900T is on front panel, no model number nor FCC, UL or CA stickers on the back. No MFG address, warranty nor contact info provided. No packing slip nor receipt in package.

Opened it up:
Tuner: LG TDVG-H052F
Uses LG's DTV on A chip: LGDT1111D
Has header for software upgrade.
Has Power Switch on Back.
Did not test for pass through.

Remote is larger than most, same as used with another box I have, I think the Magnavox. Will have to dig in the closet amidst the +30 receivers to see.

No guided setup like some models.
EPG is virtually IDENTICAL to the Zenith/Insignia, except different color scheme, and harder to read than the Zenith/Insignia.
Not quite as sensitive as some other boxes.
Channels can be tuned by native RF channel.
Re-Scanning does not clear existing channel list.
Can add channels manually and see signal level at the same time.

And before the 1000 questions from newbies, no there is NOT a menu selection for QAM. No HDMI,E-SATA,USB,Ethernet,Component,S-Video,Smart Antenna,power steering,power brakes, power windows,nor digital audio outputs. It's just a $50 coupon box.

Having a few of various coupon boxes, there's nothing I see special for or against the CoShip. I do wonder what happens if the box is bad or has issues, as both email addresses for CoShip bounced back.

And before the 1000 questions from newbies, no there is NOT a menu selection for QAM. No HDMI,E-SATA,USB,Ethernet,Component,S-Video,Smart Antenna,power steering,power brakes, power windows,nor digital audio outputs. It's just a $50 coupon box.


A bit hyper-sensitive, are we?

Packaged in plain white box. Model N9900T is on front panel, no model number nor FCC, UL or CA stickers on the back. No MFG address, warranty nor contact info provided. No packing slip nor receipt in package.......I do wonder what happens if the box is bad or has issues, as both email addresses for CoShip bounced back. Quite peculiar - no manufacturer or US distributor contact data provided if you want to ship a defective CECB back to CoShip.

A bit hyper-sensitive, are we?

Nah..just tired of those who:

Post First, Think Second, and READ Third. :)

Quite peculiar - no manufacturer or US distributor contact data provided if you want to ship a defective CECB back to CoShip.

May be one of those deals where the dealer just accepts to handle any such returns. Which is why you see certain big-box retailers selling store returns on ebay.

But, to give the benefit of a doubt, BSAT may be very helpful if there is a return issue. Time will tell.

By the way, the LGDT1111 chip runs very hot. Unable to keep finger on it.
I'd say it needs a heatsink.

By the way, the LGDT1111 chip runs very hot. Unable to keep finger on it.
I'd say it needs a heatsink.Thank you bdfox18doe for the quick reviews.
I wonder my they didn't have the FCCID VXF2007122901 listed.

So it does not have a heatsink and looks like the LG EPG.
Are you sure it is not the Artec EPG that can supposedly do more than an hour by pressing ▼
I had thought the CoShip had more than a Now/Next EPG?

It looked like it has the Artec Menu's in in Manual on the top unlike the Zenith on the side interface.
http://i20.tinypic.com/2lvz8e8.jpgvshttp://i23.tinypic.com/ort6i9.jpg

What was the Picture in Graphic - I am know thinking nothing unique but just another way of them saying it had a menu.

You also have stated that there was no manufacturer or US distributor contact data.
They say to contact your local dealer or them directly in China.
Hope you have international calling plan.
I guess you could try to email them support@coship.com or is this one of the address that bounced back.

Because you have a few of various coupon boxes what one do you like the best so far?

I guess they are not going to be making this stylish unit on from this site here
http://www.coship-stb.com/n9900t1.html
So, which site is the real Coship?
http://www.coship.com/CoshipEn/Default.aspx?Type=1&PCID=216&CatalogID=6864
Ah, well seemed to be a promising unit but, just another LG based box.

Because you have a few of various coupon boxes what one do you like the best so far?

Don't see anything that relates to PIG.. Usually, I have found that to mean
a small pic of the program is shown live with the EPG. Not so here.

Looks like your left picture for setup,but EPG is virtually identical to the Zenith/Insignia, I suspect a function of the LG DTv on a chip, and is mfg customizable.

My pick is between the Zenith/Insignia and the Digital Stream..the DS has a larger EPG that I think Granny will do better with. I also like the RjTech (Mustek/Tivax)

It's off to the closet for this one. Nothing here to make me switch from the
Zenith I use daily. But then again, after coupon it was $15...

Don't see anything that relates to PIG.. Usually, I have found that to mean
a small pic of the program is shown live with the EPG. Not so here.That is what I was thinking it would have been showing a small live picture with the EPG:mad:

Looks like your left picture for setup, but EPG is virtually identical to the Zenith/Insignia, I suspect a function of the LG DTv on a chip, and is mfg customizable.Looking at pictures of both the Artec and Zenith/Insignia EPG they look identical however I have my doubts.

From the User Manual (http://www.freedtvshop.com/fdtv/converters/t3aproUM.pdf) for the Artec and on page 15 (21 in pdf):

EPG (Electronic Program Guide) may provide
more than just current program.
1. Press the EPG buttons on the remote control to view detailed program information.
2. Use the ◄ ► buttons to select channel.
3. Use the ▼ button to display more programs with playing time.
4. Press the EPG buttons to close EPG guide.

My pick is between the Zenith/Insignia and the Digital Stream..the DS has a larger EPG that I think Granny will do better with. I also like the RjTech (Mustek/Tivax)Why do you prefer the LG based boxes (Zenith/Insignia/Digital Stream)to the Zoran based boxes (RjTech/Mustek/Tivax)?

Is the LG Soc more Sensitive than the Zoran?
How many channels do you get with each?
Is picture quality substantially different?
You don't like the ugly blue and black interface of the Zoran?

LG's had audio problem reports and I don't think Zoran has had any.
It looks like these Zoran boxes can all be upgraded using the Serial port.
It looks like these Zoran boxes all support a Smart Antenna.

Also have you tried a GE/Goodmind yet?
The Goodmind is cheap if ordered through Eagle World Industries (http://eagleworldindustries.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=12).

Thanks;)

The Coship specs show a 7-day Full EPG. Is this wrong?

I have been testing a coship that was received a few days ago, Nice unit with good tuner sensitivity, I did not care for the way it was delivered though in its own box not even taped up, owners manual says digital satellite receiver. Won't be getting much use of this one Im afraid since its remote conflicts with a shinybow brand 8x8 switcher I own. Oh well, off to a relatives house with this one!

Neat,
Well, the layout of the board isn't like the LG board LSX300-4DM that is in
the LG Boxes Zenith or Insignia. Only the power board so far is the second
one that has a fuse on it?
Now weather thats a good thing or not. Ah, well so far the Tivax stb-9 is the
only one with a heat sink on the SoC? :eek: Wonder with all these boxes using
the same Hynix Memory chip if that would have not been the company to
invest into. :D
Still nice info no the boxes satpro

Does it have a zoom button (aspect ratio) on the remote?

I asked CoShip why they list it as a 7-day EPG when others said it is a Now/Next this is what they said:
7 days Electronic Program Guide (EPG), that is the programs of 7 days from front-end could be foreshown in the guide. It is a particular function of the receiver.Looking at the remote from the user manual do the page + (button 14) and page - (button 15) buttons work with the EPG or do CH+/Page+ (button 22) and CH-/Page- (button 23)?

camteax - Looking at the user manual the button 19 says "RATIO" so yes ;)

For those interested in the Coship 9900T, be advised that the unit that I ordered and received does not have the advertised features of a 7 day EPG and Smart Antenna Connector. It is only capable of displaying the common Now and Next programming guide. The only antenna input is a conventional RF 75 Ohm cable F-Connector.

For those interested in the Coship 9900T, be advised that the unit that I ordered and received does not have the advertised features of a 7 day EPG and Smart Antenna Connector. It is only capable of displaying the common Now and Next programming guide. The only antenna input is a conventional RF 75 Ohm cable F-Connector.

Same here Arnsky..and, as consumer reports would say, "there are better choices". Although for $15 after coupon, you can't really complain.:)

http://i20.tinypic.com/2z8xkcm.jpg
Quick question does the EPG have the 1/15 (xx/xx) on the Next section of the EPG?
In the picture above there it is on screen 1 and there are 15 screens of Now/Next data.

It was discovered that the Artec has pages of Now/Next but looks like the Zenith except for the xx/xx on the Next section of the EPG.

I just received a Coship 9988T CECB today and I'm wondering something about the EPG.

The Coship supposedly has a 7 day EPG, but i'm unable to access anything other than "Now/Next" for any of the digital channels. I can arrow left and right to go through the scanned-in digital channels to get Now/Next, but I"m unable to figure out how to view programming on a particular digital channel beyond the "Next" program.

the manual seems to be no help about how to navigate the EPG and I don't know if I'm in the same predicament as the earlier posts in this thread about the 9900T apparently lacking a 7 day EPG.

Thanks.

Does the N9988T's EPG and other display menus look like the N9900T?
And perhaps you can look inside and let us know the part numbers on
the big chips and "tin-can" tuner.

Does the N9988T's EPG and other display menus look like the N9900T?
And perhaps you can look inside and let us know the part numbers on
the big chips and "tin-can" tuner.

for the coship N9988T that I have:


the OSD menu'ing looks somewhat like one of Malouff's posting pictures (channel/option/lock across the top in boxes).

the EPG looks like Malouff's other posting picture (has the digital channels in a bar and you can scroll right/left to look at the various now/next info for each digital channel. arrow up/down or page up/down do not seem to do anything in the EPG (i.e. view any program data beyond the "next" program).

When you hit "info" while watching a channel, then the page up/down displays additional pages of info if the program descrption given for the current program is more than just the first page worth of text.

After opening it up, I took some pics (I'll have to download and give photobucket links in another posting), but from the power supply and main board:

Power supply:

Below the master power switch, I see "PW.236.01" printed on the circuit board

on another edge towards a corner, I see "E56334" printed onto the board and on another edge toward another corner, I see "KB3150 FR-1" printed onto the board.

It's not apparent to me which of these numbers is a part or version number for the design of the circuit board.

main board:

Tuner has "LG" and the logo stamped into the metal. Green sticker has "TDVG-H052F 801A25113"

main chip (prb. the cpu or converter chip) says:

"LG electronics
LGDT1111D
O746
P33741.00"

Another chip says:

hynix 747A C (glue streamed across the chip, so I don't know if it's 747A or 7474).

HY5DU561622ETP-D43 (with glue over the "E" so it may not be an "E")

KDR


the last large chip on the main board:

hard to read because someone wrote a big "S" in sharpie or whatever on the chip, covering up most of the writing.

I can't even see most of (or even recognize) the manufacturer name stamped on the chip, let alone the chip number.

the main board has a "KMB.A96.02" printed on the board along with a "version b" and a couple of white stickers "400009314-0979" and "CZA9602B01B0819T"

there is an interesting 4 pin connector on the board - +5, GND, TX, and RX - is this potentially a way to hook up the smart antenna I hear about or...?


Robert

Sounds like a serial connector for flash ROM updates, from what we know about the other boxes.

I have a felling that this is the same as the COSHIP N9988T
Cadence DTVC-9 @ http://www.cadencestore.com (http://www.cadencestore.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=147&idproduct=468) | $39.00 + $?.?? shipping | ? sales tax New Jersey

I have a felling that this is the same as the COSHIP N9988T [

Not Even Close...The Cadence box claims to be "CONSISTENTLY LOUDER! CONSISTENTLY HARDER!.. I don't believe the Coship can hold a candle to that! :p

I have a felling that this is the same as the COSHIP N9988T
Cadence DTVC-9 @ http://www.cadencestore.com (http://www.cadencestore.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=147&idproduct=468) | $39.00 + $?.?? shipping | ? sales tax New Jersey
Although box exteriors look identical, I know nothing re what's inside Cadence.

Probably yet another pair of LGDT1111 clowns....err clones....with the audio bug....

Any connectors on N9988T other than V/L/R and RF IN/OUT?

Digital Captions? Percent Signal Quality? EZAdd?

Any connectors on N9988T other than V/L/R and RF IN/OUT?

Digital Captions? Percent Signal Quality? EZAdd?

other than a master power switch (not a connector) on the back, you have the connectors right.

it has the various CC and text modes available, there is a signal meter (bad-good bar, no percent, changes pitch sound based on how strong/bad the signal is), and I don't know what you mean by EZAdd unless it's a function to manual scan a particular single channel to add or update it in the master channel list)

EZAdd is ability to add a channel without clearing out other channels.

Any updated information on the N9900T, N9901T, or the N9988T?

Just received my coship n9988t and had noticed that although the front has n9988t as it's model #, the back label has printed on it n9900t. The box looks exactly like in the link Malouff provided in question#53 but says coship instead of cadence. Anyone else notice this on theirs? (sorry, cant provide link until I have 3 posts). Also, the remote looks EXACTLY the same as that picture. So, probably same box.

My channels come in crystal clear. I was getting maybe 10 channels before and I am getting 42 channels now.

What were you using before?

What were you using before?

Sorry, I was just getting regular analog tv broadcast from out of Chicago (I'm in norther Indiana). And those were kinda weak at times. I read that you sometimes have to upgrade the antenna to get any reception with the digital tuner but the coship seems to come in pretty clear.

I was infatuated with it, but if touch gives you almost heat blister then troubles are
looming in summer time. 18W consumption means get your mini fire ext. ready.
The Cadence prospectus suggest ideal operating temperature at 0-60?, if it was Cel
zium that would be fine, but I think it is Fahr.
Come summer, indoor 80+ no air conditioning, in 1hr. Coship should reach critical level
of heat absorbsion - Boom. Sorry, do you see better prospect?
The Coship-Cadence are winter boxes.
Sorry guys, I stand to correct myself. The Coship sheet offer list operation(al) temperature
at 0-40 C.(inside the box), that means 40 Celzium equals 104Fahr. which is ok.
The 0 C=32F freezing thus the OT are outdoor.

Last week, after 12 days waiting, I have received the Coship N9901T APT.Bought
from -bsat, Illinois, 6days delivery by well paid overpaid lazy FedExer unwilling to walk
up 4 flights to my doors, UPS does.
The adress was screwed, using friend of mine ccard his name my address, I guess
there is too much sun in Pomona,Ca. to NY Shipping $13.21.
This box has Manual real Add, real Delete, after I get privileges I write more.
The main Power switch on/off, same as TV or DVD or VCR it has power switch at back panel, exce
llent guard against power outage and power surge.
The APT- RF coax connected to TV, but RCav triple cables connected to TV incapacitates the APT,
however both RFcoax and RCav triple connected to VCR thru DVD to TV, the APT works both in Stand
by very bright red light and Main power switch off no red light, though in Standby the Analog PQ is be
tter. The recording on VCR in EP mode is very good.

EZAdd is ability to add a channel without clearing out other channels.

The Coship N9901T APT has Manual real Add, real Delete. Punch in 31,box
makes it 31-1, go to Channel Menu, down to Manual, the 31-1 is in blue box,
OK makes it yellow DTV 31-1, exit, go to 31-1 move Rabbit ears Antenna,even
before you get the picture go to Channel Menu to ADD Scan, the box scan to
memory ION31-1,2,3,4 the manual 31-1 is dead,no signal thus you Delete it

I wonder if you could make confirmation,perhaps useful especially for future buyers of
the Coship line.
On side of the box are 2 larger scanner stickers, never mind those. On top of the box
and inside on back panel of converter are small identical 14 digits numbers, the last 5 di
gits (for 10,11,12 would be 6) read 03209, indicating that the box was made on 3rd Feb
ruary 09, give 2-3 wks for packing to containers and loading on ship, sail from Shenzhen
near Macau to US port less than 30 days before end of March, transport to CosaFreight
at Pomona,Ca 91766 few days, sent out on 2nd April by fedex 6 days to me.Thank you.
The Coship Tuner freq. ATSC 57-803 Mhz Centre Frequency, all major channels scanned
on 2nd try 12M25ch. on Full autoScan; ADD on autoScan in 1Min; Channel Edit to cancel
channels; Manual Search/Scan from 1-69 Add/Delete (All channels from 1-23 and 62-69 are
empty)Punch in WCBS2 the box goes to 56-1 retrieves the signal transf.to 2-1 slot in less than
1second; Channel Setting the ch.4default or 3 set electronically. Coship eats 12WMax.

The sound so elusive, fast or slow moving, absolutely needing,what can we do with
out it? The people who do not have HD wall to wall TV, using Mono rather than Stereo
the Mono application increases sound volume twice of Stereo.
Most conv.boxes are EnergyStar 8w or less thus the volume on conv.box can be
put to max.100, then on TV sound volume of 1-32max. the 6-8 points level provides su
fficiently strong sound.
The boxes with 12W Max.like Coship, sound volume about 77 at Mono, the TV at 6-8 level gives good sound.
Also the best volume broadcasters give are 68Telefutura, then ABC, the rest are
low too low too painful to watch

The FCC, apparently, wanted that the conv.boxes have Energy star efficiency of 8W
and less which most boxes indeed have, Coship also Goodmind have 12W, and I think that this is to advantage in regard to signal strength.
Now many of the Energy star boxes can't keep signal at level under 20-25points, I
think for reason of lack of electric power.
When signal is weak, I punch in signal meter, then the Audio sound decreases to barely audible, the Audio electric power is diverted to Video and part of it goes to peep-
ing sound and I believe other part of it is used to maintain and to increase and to stabilize signal strength.
Thus the signal level at 20 reading the diverted electricity enhances and stabilizes the signal meter with 10 points fluctuation giving readout of 20 to 30 points, as long it does not go under 20 as bottom level there is no pixelation of the picture, the broadcast is in PQ, after meter read disappears the Audio returns to normal level.
In this box 80 level on signal meter equals to 100 on my other iNet- Tivax type conv.box, the reason is that Coship has 12W consumption and iNet-Tivax 8WEnergy star, the 4w difference is like reserve of electric power for fluctuation of signal input to be stabilized within circuitry of this box then to maintain uninterrupted signal strength.
Freeze out of picture - when I go into channel which turns out to have very weak signal, sometime the last frame from previous channel still being in circuitry ''as in pipes'' the last frame appear on TV and the current too weak signal does not have strength to push through to penetrate to TV the last frame may be on screen 5 minutes even longer or until I change channel.
The freeze is always the last frame from previous channel when current channel signal does not have enough power or strength to push through circuitry out to TV.
Little problem with Coship is that sometime Info shuts off the box into Red standby
light, and the EPG Now/Next is joke.

It seems to me that I am the only contributor here, the other day accidently I've
run the Coship box with my 96W20inchSony for almost 10 hours, after I shut it off, put
my hand on top of it to feel the heat emanating out, I was surprised that the box was
hot as if it ran only 2 hours.
Every conv.box must be hot, it is issue of acceptable heat-hotness, if it is not hot
then it is damaged goods.
the Coship has metal casing, it gives good feeling, but I have it only 3months, let see
what song I will will sing in a year, I heard some of you Z/Insignia already whinning, Alo

Pleasant surprise is this Coship box, normally we scroll vertically channels up and or down, from ch.2.1 to 3.1 - 4.1,2,3 - 5.1,2-6(1-1)- 7.1,2,3-9.1,2-11.1,2-13.1.2.3-25.1,2
31.1,2,3,4-34.1-39.1,2,,3,4,5,017,018,019,020 -41.1,2-47.1-55.1-68.1,2 etc.
The transparent EPG display 5 ch.programs, 4 blue not seen 1 yellow you see, moving cursor to blue ch.box and OK brings out that ch.program to see beyond transparent EPG
window, thus you can scroll horizontally all ch.from 2 to 69 or whatever, and underneath
each ch. the now-next programs are shown, Alois

I just got A n9901t off Solid Signal (free w/coupon including shipping)
I also have an Artec T3AP-LL and A RCA DTA 800B1 Here In Seattle
Using an CM 3021 and VHF Dipole indoors both the Coship and Artec
Picked Up 34 channels while the RCA Only 27 (missed KCPQ/Fox and KTBW/TBN)

bm10k how does the picture quality of the Coship compare with the Artec?
Also how warm or hot is the Coship box?


Ron

bm10k how does the picture quality of the Coship compare with the Artec?
Also how warm or hot is the Coship box?


Ron

Picture quality is about the same and the Coship Gets so hot that it will scold
you unlike the Artec. I Have another coupon, thinking about getting a AccessHD
DTA 1080-U but that's another story for another day.

bm10k thanks for the reply about the Coship I will leave it alone.

Make sure to read about the AccessHD before ordering.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1047679&highlight=accesshd

So far I still like the Zenith DTT901 box the best and the Artec T3AP-LL second but I have not tried a CM-7000.

Don't even bother with the AccesHD 1080's, they're junk.

In electronics there is not such things as cold, electricity in electronics is confined fire producing heat therefore all conv.boxes must be hot, some more than others.
I use the boxes in 1 week intervales in order to prevent overheating- meltdown of
some of the interior components, also I try not to use it longer than 3hrs. after all there
are not that good programs on TV beyond 3hrs, give it 1/2hr rest then go again.
The Coship n9901T APT is less hot than the other iNet ssr 1921, the Coship heat is
acceptable, the Main switch On/OFF on back panel turning OFF standby red light means faster cooling off.
The iNet is really hot, therefore the 3hrs run than cooling off is desirable,alo.