OPPO is a very small company and they may not have enough inhouse or external partner support to fix this issue. OPPO is very reliant on their partners (particularly MTK) when it comes to fixing inherent chipset issues. This is why you see some very long standing issues not resolved. If their partners are not helpful, OPPO does not have the inhouse hands to fix standing issues.

IMO, this is a very frank and honest comment from someone who could be called a "fanboy." Hopefully, all of the carping about Oppo's attention to the very, very few remaining issues with the 983 can be put in the perspective that Neuromancer has suggested and this thread can move on to other issues... Please.

Sorry, but the last ten posts of rdgrimes in this thread have been anything but helpful. Just playing Oppo fanboy, not AVS contributing member.

My comment is based entirely on your pointing out that this is a DV-983H thread and that he does not have a player. If you had expanded upon your comments more to say that you were dissatisfied with his responses, rather then leaving it as very "black and white", I wouldn't have responded.

I just did not like how close minded the post sounded. That is all.

IMO, this is a very frank and honest comment from someone who could be called a "fanboy." Hopefully, all of the carping about Oppo's attention to the very, very few remaining issues with the 983 can be put in the perspective that Neuromancer has suggested and this thread can move on to other issues... Please.

When you have been dealing with OPPO and the community for the past 4 years, you are bound to learn that there is no such thing as "perfect". No company really likes their players having outstanding issues, as any "bad mouth" comments will hurt their reputation and ability to retain customers. But it is impossible for any company to fulfill all wishes, requests, or compatibility complaints.

Please stop the bickering. If you have a problem with the 983, feel free to ask for solutions or workarounds here. If you don't find any, please take it up with Oppo. If any company is going to fix a problem with a player, they will. And if you have nothing constructive to add to a discussion, please DO NOT POST. Some of people should know better and just posting for the sake of posting has to stop.

larry

When you have been dealing with OPPO and the community for the past 4 years, you are bound to learn that there is no such thing as "perfect". No company really likes their players having outstanding issues, as any "bad mouth" comments will hurt their reputation and ability to retain customers. But it is impossible for any company to fulfill all wishes, requests, or compatibility complaints.

With all due respect, the outstanding issues with the 983 are because Oppo abandoned support and further development for the model in less than a year to focus their efforts in another direction. Having built a terrific reputation as a value-based, serviced-oriented company, Oppo appear to have done a 180 and undertaken a venture that precludes all other product improvements due to limited resources. For such a small, niche company, they CAN'T afford a tarnished reputation by pissing off customers -- as they indeed have. Nobody's asking for perfection, just the same attention they used to pay to customers' issues before their (IMO) risky blu-ray venture. As a customer, I'd think more than twice about spending $500+ for an Oppo player when I've seen them dump "last year's" $400 player due to...limited resources...especially in the current economic climate.

With all due respect, the outstanding issues with the 983 are because Oppo abandoned support and further development for the model in less than a year to focus their efforts in another direction. Having built a terrific reputation as a value-based, serviced-oriented company, Oppo appear to have done a 180 and undertaken a venture that precludes all other product improvements due to limited resources. For such a small, niche company, they CAN'T afford a tarnished reputation by pissing off customers -- as they indeed have. Nobody's asking for perfection, just the same attention they used to pay to customers' issues before their (IMO) risky blu-ray venture. As a customer, I'd think more than twice about spending $500+ for an Oppo player when I've seen them dump "last year's" $400 player due to...limited resources...especially in the current economic climate.
I did some looking and I can't find where you describe the communication with Oppo you had about your problem. (Sorry if I missed it.) What did they say?

Unless you want to divulge the communications, you've had your say. Ok?

larry

I did some looking and I can't find where you describe the communication with Oppo you had about your problem. (Sorry if I missed it.) What did they say?

Unless you want to divulge the communications, you've had your say. Ok?

larry

Larry, if you'll check my post (#5244), in the course of this thread, I wrote:

"Except for a relatively small issue I called them about seven months ago regarding the 983's screen saver mode that goes to black instead of the bouncing logo of previous models -- sometimes resulting in having to turn the unit off & on again to regain HDMI handshake -- their response was that they were aware of the problem, and it would be addressed in the "next" firmware release. Still waiting, btw."

So if they can't address relatively minor 983 issues like mine, do you really think they'll put serious time into some of the more egregious ones?

Thanks for letting me have my say, Larry. I don't want to piss off the Board or Oppo with my comments. Guess we can close the book on this thread now...

Pax

Thanks for the dig up.

There's no reason you can't talk about a player problem. But to keep going on and on and on, there's no reason for it. It's between you and Oppo. We do this for all product issues. Check out the plasma forum and LCD forums sometime. When things get out of control they're stopped. It serves no purpose to keep going on and on. Nobody likes having a problem that may not be fixed. But it's nothing new in the CE world. Don't feel bad, I have a $7K AV pre/pro that took about a year or so and 4 (!) different units before the issues were solved. Others had one of the issues here and there, but I managed to get the all. Think about having your whole HT down for two or three weeks waiting for replacements. I reported the problems I had in the relevant thread but for the most part I dealt with the company and didn't go on and on and post about how it shouldn't be and speculate on the reasons. "S" happens. :)

larry

I just got my 983 back from Oppo and thought I should ad to the "discussion" regarding customer service on this "legacy" player.

First, I've posted here about my audio dropout problem in the past. I previously contacted Oppo CS and they recommended certain fixes, none of which worked. I lived with the condition because, frankly, in movies it just didn't bother me that much. Now that I've begun collecting some symphonic and operatic DVDs it started to be a distraction so I contacted Oppo again.

They were great, asking me to send it back for repair/modification with a complete description of of my equipment and the problem. And, this is what I found extraordinary, they sent me a pre-paid Fedx label! Shipping was no-charge both ways! I've never experienced, nor expected, anything like that from any electronics company and I was impressed.

The player arrived back today, along with a clear and concise invoice describing the repair, which was the replacement of the HDMI circuit board. Again, I was impressed with the speed of the return and the repair description.

I just played two DVDs and the condition is, in fact, gone! No dropouts at all, none, where before there would have been at least six and often twelve or more.

To say I'm elated is an understatement. These guys are fantastic! All this attention on a player that is no longer in production. Even after I told them in advance I couldn't use the 83 due to my Region 2/Pal disk collection.

The bottom line is; don't ever give up on Oppo! Their concern for their customers is second to none and I don't believe for a minute they'd drop any of their 983 owners. Work with them and they'll certainly work with you.

arkiedan

All that I'll say is during the 2 times I've had problems with my 983 Oppo's service has been exemplary-I love my 983-would I buy another Oppo product? In a heartbeat!!

arkiedan,

Do you know if they replaced a defective board or fixed a flaw in the design?

arkiedan,

Do you know if they replaced a defective board or fixed a flaw in the design?

Steve,

"Problem Resolution - Replaced the following part: HDMI Board"

They didn't say whether the board was defective or the new board was modified and improved. To me that question was irrelevant, since the player now exhibits no audio dropouts.

arkiedan

All that I'll say is during the 2 times I've had problems with my 983 Oppo's service has been exemplary-I love my 983-would I buy another Oppo product? In a heartbeat!!
haven't had any problems but have to add my 2 cents that I just love my 983 also. It's given new life to all my old dvd's. best piece of HT equipment I've bought in a long time.

haven't had any problems but have to add my 2 cents that I just love my 983 also. It's given new life to all my old dvd's. best piece of HT equipment I've bought in a long time.

Another vote for the 983, I love mine, especially its uncanny up-converting abilities and the flawless way it plays DVD-Audio and multi-region discs. Would I buy the BDP-83? Probably not, because I'm not sold on Blu-ray, especially with the high prices of BD movies and restrictions.

But that's not a slam against Oppo, just being leery about the format that Steve Jobs of Apple called "a bag of hurt.":)

Folks, this is a 983 discussion thread, not a Blu-ray viability discussion thread. Clean up done.

larry

I am projecting a 75 inches diagonal image through a projector on a screen. Feeding the pj with a 983 and a ps3.
New movies on bd have a significant better picture then standart dvd - looks almost better then in the movie theatre. But well transfered standart dvd come close.
The secret is to process the excellent feed from the 983 into good quality, calibrated video equipment. Set up is everything and the weakest link in the chain decides on the picture quality.

I have had my BDP 83 for a week or so, and have had a 983 since they were released. The 983 has NEVER been anything but exceptional, and I really believe in the products of this company. The 83 is soooo much faster than my old BluRay, and does the same great job on standard DVDs as the 983 does. I never thought I would sell the 983, but for me one player does it. NO issues w/ the 983, but it seem superflous at this point. The 983 is going up for sale and the 83 is a keeper!

Oppo is an exceptional company, and having read a lot of this thread, it is clear that they are still standing behind their products. We need more companies like this (and I didn't realize that they were a sponsor...I ignore ads!).

I have had my BDP 83 for a week or so, and have had a 983 since they were released. The 983 has NEVER been anything but exceptional, and I really believe in the products of this company. The 83 is soooo much faster than my old BluRay, and does the same great job on standard DVDs as the 983 does. I never thought I would sell the 983, but for me one player does it. NO issues w/ the 983, but it seem superflous at this point. The 983 is going up for sale and the 83 is a keeper!

Oppo is an exceptional company, and having read a lot of this thread, it is clear that they are still standing behind their products. We need more companies like this (and I didn't realize that they were a sponsor...I ignore ads!).


I'm sure the 83 is a terrific unit, but blu-ray looks as good on a PS3 and more inexpensive players...nothing like the difference between the 983 and other SD standalones. When BD movie prices become affordable to the regular bloke, I'll think about getting one. And yes, I never knew Oppo was a forum sponsor either, until I clicked on pooperscooper's link "Help Support AVS Forum Advertisers" and voila! there was Oppo...connecting the dots.:rolleyes:

The reason for some of the thread cleanup has nothing to do with Oppo being a sponsor. It has to do with repeated posting and speculation that really has nothing to do with why AVS is here. If you have problems with a company, you deal with the company. Whining here does no good except derail threads. You can believe in your own conspiracy theories and that's fine if it makes you feel better.

larry

I'm sure the 83 is a terrific unit, but blu-ray looks as good on a PS3 and more inexpensive players...nothing like the difference between the 983 and other SD standalones. When BD movie prices become affordable to the regular bloke, I'll think about getting one. And yes, I never knew Oppo was a forum sponsor either, until I clicked on pooperscooper's link "Help Support AVS Forum Advertisers" and voila! there was Oppo...connecting the dots.:rolleyes:

bob:

How about affordable software....??? I am willing to bet that most posters have a lot more SD's that BDs....And also the selection and content is ahead and shoulders above BDs at present...So,why not get the very best of both worlds??True the OPPO 83 is more expensive than most....but it does everything as well or better that most...including Denon...IMO,there is not
a better chip out there than the Anchor bay for upscaling...
While OPPO may indeed be an advertiser,they never have to apologize for the price to justify the quality....

bob:

How about affordable software....??? I am willing to bet that most posters have a lot more SD's that BDs....And also the selection and content is ahead and shoulders above BDs at present...So,why not get the very best of both worlds??True the OPPO 83 is more expensive than most....but it does everything as well or better that most...including Denon...IMO,there is not
a better chip out there than the Anchor bay for upscaling...
While OPPO may indeed be an advertiser,they never have to apologize for the price to justify the quality....

The only problem I have with dumping my 983 in favor of the 83 (when it finally becomes available) is the multi-region abilities of the former, I have way too many foreign DVDs to sacrifice them for a player that can't play them. Also, the 983's DVD-A is spot-on, so why take a chance? When I see a need to buy a blu ray, I'll go cheap and hang on to my 983...it's a treasure! I'm even buying a second one to insure fabulous viewing of my flicks for a very long time. The very best of affordable worlds would be to purchase an inexpensive BD player and keep my 983s.

I agree with you, Oppo needs no apologies for its products...though with the 83's $500 price tag we all need to think twice, no?

Talking about treasures...

... yesterday evening, after quite some time, I watched the Moody Blues - Live at the Red Rocks - thru the 983 and wow, such an outstanding picture, although sound has a lot to be desired. Looking forward to get this concert on BD in close future though :)

Regards, Chuck

Does this resolution works with RX-V3800?
I ask this because I know that with RX-V3900 and also with Z7, connected to Oppo DV-983H, there are problems at the video level through HDMI.

Do you have any informations on this issue?

Talking about treasures...

... yesterday evening, after quite some time, I watched the Moody Blues - Live at the Red Rocks - thru the 983 and wow, such an outstanding picture, although sound has a lot to be desired. Looking forward to get this concert on BD in close future though :)

Regards, Chuck

do you know if moodies @ red rocks was filmed or videotaped?
i ask cuz if it was filmed then it can be transferred to hi def (blu ray).

hd videotape, afaik, did not exist at that time so it's out.
if taped in sd then afaik, it cannot be made into a blu ray or any hi def format.

i too would love to see/hear that on blu ray!

Westgate,

I really don't know' bout it, sorry!

Regards, Chuck

Does this resolution (1080p) works with RX-V3800?
Nobody knows?
Please...

Does this resolution works with RX-V3800?
I ask this because I know that with RX-V3900 and also with Z7, connected to Oppo DV-983H, there are problems at the video level through HDMI.

Do you have any informations on this issue?
Yes, I own two 983s that are (well, only one now) connected to two RX-V3800s and 1080p works fine with them. One of my 983s is now connected to my RX-Z7 and the best I can get with that hookup is 1080i. Also, the 983 doesn't work with Z11s. That combination is worse than with the Z7 (can't use anything above 480p as I recall...but it's been awhile since I tried and my memory may be faulty--wait, change that to my memory IS faulty:) ).

This is a great news for me, because Oppo service told me that I will not be able to send 1080p even with Yamaha RX-V3800.
Right now I only have a HD Ready TV, so I am at 1080i but very soon I'll buy a new Full HD TV and I want to be able to pass that 1080p.

Thank you for your reply!

Good evening folks,

I wonder if anyone has encountered this major issue (see #2 below) as well as can prompt me any trick to solve the minor issue (#1 below):

Issue #1. When any USB media is connected to my OPPO, the player lists the folders and files in an ascending order, i.e. the oldest folders/files are listed at the top while the most recent ones down at the bottom which is not very logical because if one saves new material to a disk, one would want to see it at the top of the list, right?

Issue #2 and a long-standing one:

It happens with SD DVD material that I put on a USB hard drive with the material being mostly a backup copy of a commecrcial release DVD from my collection or any other SD video material from the Internet, e.g. flicks from YouTube, torrents and the like.
During the playback all of a sudden the video will freeze while the audio may be still running, but then the audio will disappear as well, so the only thing I can see is the frozen frame on the screen. When it's totally frozen none of the buttons on the remote or the player itself can do anything except for the Power. I have to power off the player > wait 1-2 mins > power it on again and it can play the same movie from the start and freeze again even sooner.

Other details:
- after power cycling the OPPO and hard drive as recommended by OPPO Support for 15 mins the problem is still there;
- sometimes after the video freezes, audio will continue and then video may unfreeze and skip to the point in time where audio is at the moment (5-10 secs ahead);
- after the first freeze > power cycling > starting the same movie over again I have to fast forward the film to where it froze before to resume the playback, most likely the fast forward will freeze as well.
- my player has the latest stable firmware: DV983H-07-0619. I tried the latest Beta FW to no effect;
- the issue happens if the material is on different USB hard drives. I have changed 3 HDDs by now;
- I have tried different HDMI & USB cables: original OPPO HDMI, and commercial USB v.1 & 2;
- I have tried powering both devices to different power outlets;
- if I copy the same video from the USB HDD to a DVD disk, the issue is the same;
- during the freeze, there is not any suspicious noise or anything out of ordinary coming from the player or the HDD.

I've been with this issue to the OPPO support and tried what they asked me to (all above). I don't expect a solution from this forum, rather mainly want to know if anything like this happened to other DV-983H owners who use USB storage extensively or is it just me.

I appreciate your feedback in any way.
Cheers,
VPB

Good evening folks,

I wonder if anyone has encountered this major issue (see #2 below) as well as can prompt me any trick to solve the minor issue (#1 below):

Issue #1. When any USB media is connected to my OPPO, the player lists the folders and files in an ascending order, i.e. the oldest folders/files are listed at the top while the most recent ones down at the bottom which is not very logical because if one saves new material to a disk, one would want to see it at the top of the list, right?

Issue #2 and a long-standing one:



I can't help with #2; my only USB usage has been with a thumb drive and that has been pretty reliable.

As for #1: I think alphabetical sorting would be even better, but the OPPO players sort media files by their creation order (the same as sorting by inode on Linux file systems; I don't know what it's called on FAT or ISO9660).

There are utilities to resort FAT directories; see: Why are media file names not sorted alphabetically? (http://watershade.net/wmcclain/BDP-83-faq.html#why-are-media-file-names-not-sorted-alphabetically)

-Bill

I can't help with #2; my only USB usage has been with a thumb drive and that has been pretty reliable.

As for #1: I think alphabetical sorting would be even better, but the OPPO players sort media files by their creation order (the same as sorting by inode on Linux file systems; I don't know what it's called on FAT or ISO9660).

There are utilities to resort FAT directories; see: Why are media file names not sorted alphabetically? (http://watershade.net/wmcclain/BDP-83-faq.html#why-are-media-file-names-not-sorted-alphabetically)

-Bill

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the feedback. yes, I should have mentioned the A-Z order as well. Thanks for your link to an alternative OPPO FAQ. I'm expecting my BD in a week or so, hopefully.
In the meantime, for my Issue #2 I'm right now playing with the file cluster size for FAT32. My USB HDD is set to 32KB cluster by default and it faults. I already checked the 64Kb option - the player doesn't even detect the connection, so my last option is to test the 16KB size. I'll update this thread in any case.
Have a good weekend,
VPB

I have OPPO 971, will there be a significant improvement of picture quality with a 983?


thanks

I have OPPO 971, will there be a significant improvement of picture quality with a 983?


thanks

That's going to depend on a lot of factors, many of them subjective. It depends on screen size and viewing distance, the type of display, the type of discs you play, whether you use a calibration disc and your viewing preferences.

Using a small LCD, the 971 seems soft by comparison to the 983H, which has a sharper image but is still film-like. I struggled with excess green on both the 971 and 981, and this is much reduced with the 983H. I don't know what the cause of that is.

People with larger displays and viewing angles report more dramatic improvement.

Also, I recall the 971 had an amount of underscan: small black margins on the right and left. This is gone with later players.

-Bill

Thanks Bill, I am using a front, PJ Panny 900. I am thinking of upgrading to the BDP-983, but was not sure if I wanted to go with a different brand, say Sony.

Thanks Bill, I am using a front, PJ Panny 900. I am thinking of upgrading to the BDP-983, but was not sure if I wanted to go with a different brand, say Sony.

Another thing to consider is that for $100 more you can get the OPPO BDP-83 Blu-ray player which has the same DVD performance as the 983H.

That's using the retail price for a new machine. The 983H is out of production now and you may find it cheaper used.

-Bill

The plan is to buy the OPPO BDP-83, I just wanted to ensure I was getting a superior upconversion to what I have currently.

Thanks

The plan is to buy the OPPO BDP-83, I just wanted to ensure I was getting a superior upconversion to what I have currently.

Thanks

I have both the Oppo DV-983H and BDP-83 and the Panasonic PT-AE900U and the DVD performance is excellent with either and of course Blu-ray with the BDP-83 makes the choice easy as to which player to get.

Chris

I've had my 983 since they were first introduced and all has been well. But now I've jumped from an XBR1 (720P NR) to an XBR8 (1080P NR). With the Beta firmware there is a handshack problem with the 983 set to 1080P HDMI setting. I reverted back to the latest official firmware and the problem is resolved. Now since I have many PAL discs in my collection I'm left to choose which shortcoming is the least offensive, the handshack problem (with the bera firmware) or the PAL 4:3 DVD Aspect Ratio Detection problem (with the DV983H-07-0619 firmware). There are work arounds for each issue but it seems to me that these are problems that could have been worked out long ago. I know, I know ! OPPO is a small co. and with the BDP-83 in development, etc., etc.. At the very least, now that the 83 is launched, can we, at the very least, have the beta firmware finalized?

I think were SOL in receiving any new firmware from Oppo for our $400 players. Even after they get the bugs out of the new BDP-83 player. It's a BD player, therefore it's going to need constant updates just to play new releases. They aren't going to have any time for the 983.

New fw for what?

New fw for what?

Read my previous post . Just one example of 'for what'!

Read my previous post . Just one example of 'for what'!

No offense, but that is not OPPO's problem, that is your problem.
OPPO can't be responsible for continued compatibility with every new product that hits the market.
You should be happy that you at least have a workaround available.

I apologize if this has been answered previously but will the 983 pass via HDMI the full audio resolution of HDCD? I also remember reading awhile back that even with regular Cd's, if you use the toslink/spdif output you are limiting the sonic range of CD and in order to hear the full sonic range you had to go analog. If this is true, will hooking my 983 via HDMI directly to the receiver solve this issue as well?

In your own words, yes, you have a problem.
I've had my 983 since they were first introduced and all has been well. But now I've jumped from an XBR1 (720P NR) to an XBR8 (1080P NR). With the Beta firmware there is a handshack problem with the 983 set to 1080P HDMI setting. I reverted back to the latest official firmware and the problem is resolved. Now since I have many PAL discs in my collection I'm left to choose which shortcoming is the least offensive, the handshack problem (with the bera firmware) or the PAL 4:3 DVD Aspect Ratio Detection problem (with the DV983H-07-0619 firmware). There are work arounds for each issue but it seems to me that these are problems that could have been worked out long ago. I know, I know ! OPPO is a small co. and with the BDP-83 in development, etc., etc.. At the very least, now that the 83 is launched, can we, at the very least, have the beta firmware finalized?
OPPO can not go back to the drawing table and engineer a firmware revision for every piece of new hardware that can be paired with their players.
If condescension is what you see in my post, then you were not paying very much attention. I wasn't being condescending at all. I was just making what I believe to be a factual statement.


Thanks! I didn't know I had a problem. I thought OPPO might want to be helpful, I have no power to hold them responsible. I was getting ready to be unhappy for the rest of my life but now that you've enlightened me I can be happy. What a woderfully helpful post, can we have more? I'm afraid so, you make a habit of condescension don't you?

In your own words, yes, you have a problem.

OPPO can not go back to the drawing table and engineer a firmware revision for every piece of new hardware that can be paired with their players.
If condescension is what you see in my post, then you were not paying very much attention. I wasn't being condescending at all. I was just making what I believe to be a factual statement.

Well the fact that johnf14's New PJ works at 1080p with the official firmware version DV983H-07-0619, but it will not work at 1080p with the beta firmware suggests that there is something changed in the beta firmware that is causing the problem!

So this would suggest that it is a OPPO firmware problem.

Simply dismissing any problems as not OPPO's problem is very dismissive of the complaints, and if this is the way OPPO support is going, it will be a detriment to their reputation.

By the way I am very happy with my 983, but if they could get rid of a couple bugs it would be much better.

Beta firmware is beta firmware. It should be expected that there are going to be glitches.
The DV-983H is a discontinued model. How many other OEMs (not counting Blu-ray) will create new fw fixes for discontinued products? None that I can think of.
Maybe OPPO will grace owners with another fw revision. I don't really know.

John's old display worked with the beta firmware, but the new display does not. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Just because the old fw works with the new display does not make it better fw. OPPO may be doing everything right, but something in the software of the display still causes the issue. This is all pure speculatory though.

OPPO worked hard to make the 983 everything it could be. I'd say they have a right to no more fw revisions, but like I said, no one knows and we'll just have to wait and see.

Beta firmware is beta firmware. It should be expected that there are going to be glitches.

True but it is reasonable to expect if they release a beta firmware it will become an official release at some point.

The DV-983H is a discontinued model. How many other OEMs (not counting Blu-ray) will create new fw fixes for discontinued products? None that I can think of.
Yamaha have for some AVR's.

Maybe OPPO will grace owners with another fw revision. I don't really know.

We can only hope so.

OPPO worked hard to make the 983 everything it could be. I'd say they have a right to no more fw revisions, but like I said, no one knows and we'll just have to wait and see.
If they do abandon support for the 983 their premium player at the time it would be very disappointing for a company that has built a reputation for excellent support, the last beta firmware was released when the 983 was still in the product line, so hopefully they can get a final firmware for the 983 to correct these bugs if possible.

I do understand they were concentrating on getting the Blu-ray player released but now that is out, hopefully they can revisit the 983 to try correct these problems.

Cheers.

... the last beta firmware was released when the 983 was still in the product line, so hopefully they can get a final firmware for the 983 to correct these bugs if possible.I would generally agree with that. I think OPPO owes owners of the BDP-83 at least one more solid firmware. At least that is how I would feel if I still owned one. I sold mine a while ago knowing how much better the BDP-83 was.

I'm also disappointed, for 400$ DVD player, we can only except perfection, or at least great support from the manufacturer.
I felt betrayed when Oppo discontinued the player so quickly. I was expecting all the bugs to be still fixed but it looks like they don't care anymore.
That will make me think twice before recommending or buying another Oppo product.

In your own words, yes, you have a problem.

OPPO can not go back to the drawing table and engineer a firmware revision for every piece of new hardware that can be paired with their players.
If condescension is what you see in my post, then you were not paying very much attention. I wasn't being condescending at all. I was just making what I believe to be a factual statement.

No one is asking OPPO to go back to the drawing board for every new piece of hardware. If you were paying attention before sounding off you would have noticed that I was refering to a handshake problem between the 983 and an XBR8 (a 2008 model) using the beta firmware (released months after the XBR8's introduction). When I reverted back to the last official firmware the handshack problem was resolved (of course the problems that were resolved by the beta firmaware are now back). So at most what I'm asking is that OPPO keep up with there own firmware releases.

In other words, to make it clear for you, the earlier firmware works with the "new hardware" and the newer (albeit beta firmware) does not. So, it's not a matter of keeping up with new hardware. I'm simply asking OPPO if they are willing to keep up with themselves. I know this is beta firmware and perhaps this is just an oversight that can easily be corrected. In which case my post can be seen as an error report. If OPPO has no intention of finalizing the beta firmware a simple acknowledgement of that fact will suffice and I can stop following this thread and learn to live with the shortcomings of the 983 (to nice a machine to disgard, I would just like it to be the best it possibly can be.)

Perhaps 'Neuromancer' is lurking about and can give a more reasoned and helpful response, as is his custom? To that end.........

Has OPPO abandoned the 983, once and for all? Or, is it possible the beta firmware will be finalized with the correction I refer to? Not such an outlandish request, is it?

Has OPPO abandoned the 983. once and for all? Or, is it possible the beta firmware will be finalized with the correction I refer to? Not such an outlandish request, is it?

I haven't been following all of this, but did you ask OPPO these questions? What did they say?

-Bill

In your own words, yes, you have a problem.

OPPO can not go back to the drawing table and engineer a firmware revision for every piece of new hardware that can be paired with their players.
If condescension is what you see in my post, then you were not paying very much attention. I wasn't being condescending at all. I was just making what I believe to be a factual statement.

Well the fact that johnf14's New PJ works at 1080p with the official firmware version DV983H-07-0619, but it will not work at 1080p with the beta firmware suggests that there is something changed in the beta firmware that is causing the problem!

So this would suggest that it is a OPPO firmware problem.

Simply dismissing any problems as not OPPO's problem is very dismissive of the complaints, and if this is the way OPPO support is going, it will be a detriment to their reputation.

By the way I am very happy with my 983, but if they could get rid of a couple bugs it would be much better.

Glad to see there are some who react without knee-jerks. You have nailed the situation exactly.

I haven't been following all of this, but did you ask OPPO these questions? What did they say?

-Bill

Yes! Waiting for a reply.

Glad to see there are some who react without knee-jerks. You have nailed the situation exactly.
Like I already said, just because the tv happens to work with the official firmware and not the beta, doesn't mean that there is an error in the firmware.
Continuing to sling mud my way is surely not going to get the problem solved for you.

In other words, to make it clear for you, the earlier firmware works with the "new hardware" and the newer (albeit beta firmware) does not. So, it's not a matter of keeping up with new hardware. I'm simply asking OPPO if they are willing to keep up with themselves. I know this is beta firmware and perhaps this is just an oversight that can easily be corrected.

Compatibility issues to a specific television will likely not be addressed. OPPO would have to get their hands on your specific television, diagnose the cause of the issue, and then write a firmware to address it.

The Beta firmware has been around for a while, and this is the first compatibility issue I have read about that was introduced by the firmware. All other issues, such as the incompatibility with Yamaha receivers which use the ABT solution, are long standing issues which exist cross firmwares.

Likely the HDCDP timings in the beta firmware are not as compatible with your television. Try another HDMI cable if you have one available, as it can be an issue with the HDMI cable transmission.

Beyond this, you will likely be out of luck.

Has OPPO abandoned the 983, once and for all? Or, is it possible the beta firmware will be finalized with the correction I refer to? Not such an outlandish request, is it?

Likely you will never see a new firmware release. OPPO is known for releasing firmware within 2 to three months. If the firmware has subsided for more time then this, it would be presumable that any external firmware development has stopped (internally they may develop more firmware - go to the DV-970HD thread for evidence of this - but these firmware never make it to public use).

Yes! Waiting for a reply.

Let us know what they say. I don't know whether the problem with the beta firmware is with your display or the firmware. Because the older official firmware doesn't have the handshake issue isn't an indication the beta firmware is at fault, after all, it worked with your previous display. The beta firmware and last official firmware don't result in handshake problems for me with three different displays and almost all other displays as far as I know. If it is limited to just your model, I am going to point the finger at the display as the most likely culprit. I don't really know how one determines which HDMI device is not in compliance when we have a handshake problem with player and display.

Have you contacted Sony asking for a fix since your DV-983H worked with your previous Sony display? I am very happy with the DV-983H and I would like to see an official firmware update improving on the beta release but I don't know if it is reasonable to expect it. Neuromancer believes this is the end of the line and he could sure be right.

Chris

Let us know what they say. I don't know whether the problem with the beta firmware is with your display or the firmware. Because the older official firmware doesn't have the handshake issue isn't an indication the beta firmware is at fault, after all, it worked with your previous display. The beta firmware and last official firmware don't result in handshake problems for me with three different displays and almost all other displays as far as I know. If it is limited to just your model, I am going to point the finger at the display as the most likely culprit. I don't really know how one determines which HDMI device is not in compliance when we have a handshake problem with player and display.

Have you contacted Sony asking for a fix since your DV-983H worked with your previous Sony display? I am very happy with the DV-983H and I would like to see an official firmware update improving on the beta release but I don't know if it is reasonable to expect it. Neuromancer believes this is the end of the line and he could sure be right.

Chris

I have received a reply from OPPO but it was to ask a few questions about my situation. I have responded and will report back with any useful info.

I have been able to access another display. It's another Sony my neighbor just purchased . It's a newly released XBR9 and it behaves the same way as my XBR8. Probably not much help since both sets are recent Sony models from2008 & 2009 with similar software.

In regards to my older display (XBR1) you must understand that it has a native resolution of 720P. The beta firmware will work on all 3 of the models ,XBR1, XBR8 and XBR9 with the HDMI setting at 480P, 720P & 1080I. The problem occurs only at 1080P on both the XBR8 & XBR9.

One of the workarounds, I mentioned earlier, is to cycle through the HDMI settings. Once switched to 480 the handshake will be made and you can continue back to 1080P and maintain the handshake. Also I found that if you turn the player on via the eject button then press play a handshake will sometimes be made as the disc tray retracts. Unfortunately this second workaround doesn't work every time. If it did it would be very easy to live with.

You have tried using a different high quality hdmi cable, right?

Likely you will never see a new firmware release. OPPO is known for releasing firmware within 2 to three months. If the firmware has subsided for more time then this, it would be presumable that any external firmware development has stopped (internally they may develop more firmware - go to the DV-970HD thread for evidence of this - but these firmware never make it to public use).

I more or less expected to hear something along these lines. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I do appreciate it.

You have tried using a different high quality hdmi cable, right?

Yes that was my first step.

I'm also disappointed, for 400$ DVD player, we can only except perfection, or at least great support from the manufacturer.
I felt betrayed when Oppo discontinued the player so quickly. I was expecting all the bugs to be still fixed but it looks like they don't care anymore.
That will make me think twice before recommending or buying another Oppo product.

I was hooted down awhile ago when I expressed the same sentiment and opinion, also repremanded by a mod. My dissatisfaction with that Oppo was that they'd abandoned further improvements to 983 firmware to pursue beta testing their $500 blu-ray player. I was assured by the "blindly faithful" that once the blu-ray was off and running, Oppo would get back to the 983. Well...still waiting, as are you. I'm keeping my 983...maybe Santa will bring a f/w update to fix the remaining issues; but if/when I go blu-ray, it definitely won't be an Oppo.

OPPO always works on new firmware, what becomes an issue is if the firmware is released externally to the public or if it fixes issues which you are directly experiencing.

Beta Testers are very vehement about continued support, as we actually see additional firmware releases. What generally happens, though, is that more stuff becomes broken (such as the current Beta and it requiring that you press Eject to enable HDMI video if you are using the two-chip solution) then fixed.

Here's a new wrinkle. I just picked up a new a/v receiver (Sony STRDN1000) and the 983 is behaving exactly the same way when connected through it.

I've been back and forth with OPPO three times now with Q&A, the latest adding the AVR info to the mix. I must say that I find a certain satisfaction with their willingness to communicate this way. Fingers crossed!

I used to watch european/pal dvd on my ntsc tv which accepts 480i signal. All of a sudden the picture is scrambled (running vertical) but the sound works. My primary connection is hdmi (to my projector 720p) and the ntsc tv is connected with component cable (region code 0). Played around with the setting yesterday but no success. Manual says that it will send 480i over component when primary is set on hdmi.
Anybody has an idea how to fix this?

I used to watch european/pal dvd on my ntsc tv which accepts 480i signal. All of a sudden the picture is scrambled (running vertical) but the sound works. My primary connection is hdmi (to my projector 720p) and the ntsc tv is connected with component cable (region code 0). Played around with the setting yesterday but no success. Manual says that it will send 480i over component when primary is set on hdmi.
Anybody has an idea how to fix this?

You need PAL->NTSC conversion, not 576i, right?

Does switching Video Mode between Video1 and 2 do anything?

-Bill

You need PAL->NTSC conversion, not 576i, right?

Does switching Video Mode between Video1 and 2 do anything?

-Bill

yes need pal to nstc conversion and have Video 2 mode.
thanks for the quick comment

yes need pal to nstc conversion and have Video 2 mode.
thanks for the quick comment

Does VIDEO1 give a different result? Does either setting with Primary Output = Component give a better picture?

-Bill

Does VIDEO1 give a different result? Does either setting with Primary Output = Component give a better picture?

-Bill
tried primary component and had the same result. I will try video 1 tonight and report back.
thanks Bill

tried primary component and had the same result. I will try video 1 tonight and report back.
thanks Bill

Also make sure that TV System type didn't accidentally get set to AUTO. With that setting a PAL disc will generate a 50hz signal which will cause a scrambled image if the TV doesn't accept 50hz. In which case you want it set to NTSC.

-Bill

Also make sure that TV System type didn't accidentally get set to AUTO. With that setting a PAL disc will generate a 50hz signal which will cause a scrambled image if the TV doesn't accept 50hz. In which case you want it set to NTSC.

-Bill


Bill you were right.
Playing PAL dvds with a different region code on an older ntsc tv with component connection you need to set the player to ntsc and video 1.
Thanks a lot.

OPPO always works on new firmware, what becomes an issue is if the firmware is released externally to the public or if it fixes issues which you are directly experiencing.

Beta Testers are very vehement about continued support, as we actually see additional firmware releases. What generally happens, though, is that more stuff becomes broken (such as the current Beta and it requiring that you press Eject to enable HDMI video if you are using the two-chip solution) then fixed.

Maybe I missed something, but your response doesn't address my oft-stated concern that Oppo appear to have abandoned further firmware releases for the 983 (last "beta" f/w was November 2008) -- things that should have been addressed by now, such as the subtitle issues, handshake problems with several popular receivers, etc.

Oh well...:(

My comment directly answers your question: Just because you do not see any additional firmware advancements, doesn't mean that OPPO has stopped firmware advancements.

Maybe I missed something, but your response doesn't address my oft-stated concern that Oppo appear to have abandoned further firmware releases for the 983 (last "beta" f/w was November 2008) -- things that should have been addressed by now, such as the subtitle issues, handshake problems with several popular receivers, etc.

Oh well...:(

Some of the things you mention, like subtitles, are things that OPPO could work on, if it's even possible to improve it.
Other things however may not ever be perfect. No matter what piece of gear you buy from anywhere, there will always be unresolvable compatibility issues with a small percentage of connected gear.
This is why OPPO gives you the guarantee of sending the player back, if after you buy it, you decide it's not the product for you.
Once you take the player as your own, you are committing to owning the player as-is.
For OPPO to have improved anything at all, is a plus for you.
If new problems should develope because of a firmware upgrade, then it is OPPO's responsibility to fix it. Otherwise, they a free to move on.

As I said in an earlier post. I do personally believe that OPPO owes 983 owners one more solid non-beta fw release. Hopefully they will be able to do that, but as alluded to above, that hinges on the premise that they CAN improve current features. I certainly don't speak for OPPO, so we shall see...

My comment directly answers your question: Just because you do not see any additional firmware advancements, doesn't mean that OPPO has stopped firmware advancements.
He asked about a firmware update (i.e., a release to end users), not an internal "advancement," so you did not address his question.

I agree with him completely that it looks like, to anyone on the outside, Oppo has unfortunately abandoned the 983.

I received this from OPPO after a few Q&A emails......

John,

We will have our engineers look into your observed issues and see if there is anything that we can do. Unfortunately we do not have access to your television, so we will not be able to directly interface with the error.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119

I decided to reinstall the beta firmware because I find the 4:3 Aspect Ratio Detection problem more annoying than the HDMI handshack issue I discovered with my new Sony equipment. Each time I turn on the 983 I must cycle through the HDMI setting (480-720-1080) in order to achieve a handshack. Gives me something to do while waiting for the disc tray to eject. I can live with it but it would have been nice to have a fix. I love my 983 and have no plans to buy a stand alone BD (I have a PS3). I have over 2000 DVD's (many PAL) in my collection and will never take on the chore of replacing them with BluRay. I already did that once switching from VHS to DVD. Never again , it's a matter of principle with me. I paid more than once for far to many titles (VHS to DVD to DVD reissue, no more-thats it!). Not only that but the OPPO gives me such a beautiful picture on the Sony LED/LCD display that I'm not even slightly tempted to start collecting BD's.

I received this from OPPO after a few Q&A emails......

John,

We will have our engineers look into your observed issues and see if there is anything that we can do. Unfortunately we do not have access to your television, so we will not be able to directly interface with the error.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119

I decided to reinstall the beta firmware because I find the 4:3 Aspect Ratio Detection problem more annoying than the HDMI handshack issue I discovered with my new Sony equipment. Each time I turn on the 983 I must cycle through the HDMI setting (480-720-1080) in order to achieve a handshack. Gives me something to do while waiting for the disc tray to eject. I can live with it but it would have been nice to have a fix. I love my 983 and have no plans to buy a stand alone BD (I have a PS3). I have over 2000 DVD's (many PAL) in my collection and will never take on the chore of replacing them with BluRay. I already did that once switching from VHS to DVD. Never again , it's a matter of principle with me. I paid more than once for far to many titles (VHS to DVD to DVD reissue, no more-thats it!). Not only that but the OPPO gives me such a beautiful picture on the Sony LED/LCD display that I'm not even slightly tempted to start collecting BD's.

I hear ya. My collection is close to 1000, and after many double dips myself, I also have no intention of triple dipping. The picture from the 983 to my calibrated Kuro is so good, the improvement from BD at my seating distance (10 ft on a 50" set), just doesn't justify a triple dip in my opinion. One day "if/when" prices on the discs themselves comes down, I will add BD to my system.

John

I decided to reinstall the beta firmware because I find the 4:3 Aspect Ratio Detection problem more annoying than the HDMI handshack issue I discovered with my new Sony equipment. Each time I turn on the 983 I must cycle through the HDMI setting (480-720-1080) in order to achieve a handshack. Gives me something to do while waiting for the disc tray to eject. I can live with it but it would have been nice to have a fix. I love my 983 and have no plans to buy a stand alone BD (I have a PS3). I have over 2000 DVD's (many PAL) in my collection and will never take on the chore of replacing them with BluRay. I already did that once switching from VHS to DVD. Never again , it's a matter of principle with me. I paid more than once for far to many titles (VHS to DVD to DVD reissue, no more-thats it!). Not only that but the OPPO gives me such a beautiful picture on the Sony LED/LCD display that I'm not even slightly tempted to start collecting BD's.
I'm in the same boat with owning DVDs from other regions and have the same aspect ratio detection issue, along with having to cycle through the HDMI setting (480-720-1080) in order to achieve a handshake. These issues only cropped up when I upgraded to the latest firmware. I was hoping Oppo would issue a firmware update with fixes to the problems but we've received nothing for a long time.

Some of the things you mention, like subtitles, are things that OPPO could work on, if it's even possible to improve it.
Other things however may not ever be perfect. No matter what piece of gear you buy from anywhere, there will always be unresolvable compatibility issues with a small percentage of connected gear.
This is why OPPO gives you the guarantee of sending the player back, if after you buy it, you decide it's not the product for you.
Once you take the player as your own, you are committing to owning the player as-is.
For OPPO to have improved anything at all, is a plus for you.
If new problems should develope because of a firmware upgrade, then it is OPPO's responsibility to fix it. Otherwise, they a free to move on.

As I said in an earlier post. I do personally believe that OPPO owes 983 owners one more solid non-beta fw release. Hopefully they will be able to do that, but as alluded to above, that hinges on the premise that they CAN improve current features. I certainly don't speak for OPPO, so we shall see...


I think the problem is the beta firmware created too many issues and therefore it is very difficult to fix enough of the issues to get to a final version. I also think it is further complicated by the differences between the two chip and single chip versions. I haven't bothered to install the beta version and fortunately haven't noticed any issues with my equipment and how I use it. I have a large collection of SACD, DVD-A, CD and Region 1 DVD-V and don't use the player for anything else.

Chris

I was hooted down awhile ago when I expressed the same sentiment and opinion, also repremanded by a mod. My dissatisfaction with that Oppo was that they'd abandoned further improvements to 983 firmware to pursue beta testing their $500 blu-ray player. I was assured by the "blindly faithful" that once the blu-ray was off and running, Oppo would get back to the 983. Well...still waiting, as are you. I'm keeping my 983...maybe Santa will bring a f/w update to fix the remaining issues; but if/when I go blu-ray, it definitely won't be an Oppo.

If you do decide to go Blu-ray and want the things the DV-983H does plus Blu-ray, good luck finding something for less than $2,000 that isn't an Oppo or Oppo clone.

Chris

If you do decide to go Blu-ray and want the things the DV-983H does plus Blu-ray, good luck finding something for less than $2,000 that isn't an Oppo or Oppo clone.

Chris

Less than $2000?? Talk about fanboy hype, this one takes the cake!!:eek:

If I ever decide to go blu-ray, I'll keep the 983H --which also happens to play multiregion discs -- and add a cheap bd player that'll look as good as any blu-ray out there.

In the meantime, I'll continue to wait for Oppo's latest firmware for the 983 (talk about cold day in h3ll):D

Less than $2000?? Talk about fanboy hype, this one takes the cake!!:eek:

Could you list the less expensive universal players for us?

-Bill

He's talking about keeping the 983 for his universal player, plus it's region free and then using an inexpensive BD player for Blu-Ray. I think Chris missed that in his response.

I have my 983 for SD and universal duties and a $200 Panasonic for Blu-Ray. Much less that $2000, I don't need the BD-83 for Blu-Ray and neither does bobve3rens.

He's talking about keeping the 983 for his universal player, plus it's region free and then using an inexpensive BD player for Blu-Ray. I think Chris missed that in his response.

I have my 983 for SD and universal duties and a $200 Panasonic for Blu-Ray. Much less that $2000, I don't need the BD-83 for Blu-Ray and neither does bobve3rens.

983 + mediocre $200 BR player = $600

BDP-83 = $500
(region free kit available for $75)

Less than $2000?? Talk about fanboy hype, this one takes the cake!!:eek:

If I ever decide to go blu-ray, I'll keep the 983H --which also happens to play multiregion discs -- and add a cheap bd player that'll look as good as any blu-ray out there.

In the meantime, I'll continue to wait for Oppo's latest firmware for the 983 (talk about cold day in h3ll):D

I meant go ahead and point out the single player that can do the things the BDP-83 does for less than $2,000. I will wait for your response.

Chris

983 + mediocre $200 BR player = $600

BDP-83 = $500
(region free kit available for $75)

B-b-b-ut I already said I OWN a 983, so the equation goes something like this:
- DV-983H = paid for (region free included @ no extra charge and no messing with DIY kits:)
-cheap BD player = between $85 - $150 at current prices (IF and when I want one). And unlike upconverting SD players where there are very definite quality differences, I've seen expensive Denons and inexpensive Magnavox blu-ray players look IDENTICAL in side-by-side demos.

Chris and the Oppo fanboys keep missing the point and will continue to do so because they're blinded by devotion (and the $600 they already shelled out) to the BDP-83.

But as I said wayyyyyyy back in my original posts, if Oppo is the mfr. god we think they are, why did they discontinue development and refinement on the short-lived (aborted might be a better word) 983?? And from what I see, 83s ain't selling like hotcakes.

B-b-b-ut I already said I OWN a 983, so the equation goes something like this:
- DV-983H = paid for (region free included @ no extra charge and no messing with DIY kits:)
-cheap BD player = between $85 - $150 at current prices (IF and when I want one). And unlike upconverting SD players where there are very definite quality differences, I've seen expensive Denons and inexpensive Magnavox blu-ray players look IDENTICAL in side-by-side demos.

Chris and the Oppo fanboys keep missing the point and will continue to do so because they're blinded by devotion (and the $600 they already shelled out) to the BDP-83.

But as I said wayyyyyyy back in my original posts, if Oppo is the mfr. god we think they are, why did they discontinue development and refinement on the short-lived (aborted might be a better word) 983?? And from what I see, 83s ain't selling like hotcakes.

What Exactly is your point?
Keep the 983 and buy a POS $85 Blu-ray player. That is your choice.

When speaking of comparing BR players side by side, you are most likely referring to 1080p/24 coming bit for bit off of the disc, and yes, most players will look similar when comparing that function. However that is only ONE aspect of what a BR player is capable of.

Did it ever occur to you that what someone/anyone here speaks of is what they believe to be the truth? Why is it that if someone has a differing opinion, that they are blind, or a fanboy, or whatever?
Try to step back and look at the whole situation from an outsiders perspective.

I also don't know where you are looking for clues on how much the BDP-83 is selling, but if you look in the right places, like dozens of professional reviews, owners thread on AVS, Amazon.com sale rankings, and other similar non-standard measurements, you would see that the BDP-83 is now one of the best selling Blu-ray players in history thus far. Selling like hotcakes?... that's an understatement.

Hello,
I recorded the US Open final (so sad that Federer lost...) on a DVDR in ultra long mode (6 hours on a single sided DVDR) with a cheap Philips DVD recorder. I tried playing back on this device, it was a disgusting pixel puree...
I dumped the disk in the 983 and I was blown away by the video processing. It became watchable and all heavy compression artefacts were suppressed.

Kudos! Love this player.

Gam.

I still say this is one of the best dvd players released at any price.

Guys,

yesterday evening we've got some friends over, for a movie session and we watched The Killers' 64 (Lee Marvin, Angie Dickinson, Ronnie Reagan & John Cassavetes), thru the 983 though, and WOW was the most pronounced word from our friends throughout the entire film :)

Just another good report from this impressive player, though!

If you do decide to go Blu-ray and want the things the DV-983H does plus Blu-ray, good luck finding something for less than $2,000 that isn't an Oppo or Oppo clone.

Chris

Less than $2000?? Talk about fanboy hype, this one takes the cake!!:eek:

If I ever decide to go blu-ray, I'll keep the 983H --which also happens to play multiregion discs -- and add a cheap bd player that'll look as good as any blu-ray out there.

In the meantime, I'll continue to wait for Oppo's latest firmware for the 983 (talk about cold day in h3ll):D

I meant go ahead and point out the single player that can do the things the BDP-83 does for less than $2,000. I will wait for your response.

Chris


B-b-b-ut I already said I OWN a 983, so the equation goes something like this:
- DV-983H = paid for (region free included @ no extra charge and no messing with DIY kits:)
-cheap BD player = between $85 - $150 at current prices (IF and when I want one). And unlike upconverting SD players where there are very definite quality differences, I've seen expensive Denons and inexpensive Magnavox blu-ray players look IDENTICAL in side-by-side demos.

Chris and the Oppo fanboys keep missing the point and will continue to do so because they're blinded by devotion (and the $600 they already shelled out) to the BDP-83.

But as I said wayyyyyyy back in my original posts, if Oppo is the mfr. god we think they are, why did they discontinue development and refinement on the short-lived (aborted might be a better word) 983?? And from what I see, 83s ain't selling like hotcakes.

If you are happy with multiple players, you can get everything the Oppo BDP-83 does for less than $2,000. Some people want a single player for it all. I just made a valid point and all you responded with silly fanboy name calling. My point was apparently accurate since I didn't see any response from you to what I stated.

I don't know the reason Oppo hasn't been able to provide a needed firmware update for the DV-983H, assuming the player needs one. My player works great with my display and AVR at the last official firmware version. I also don't know what component is at fault when there are issues at this point, only that HDMI issues can exist between components and getting the manufacturers to admit to and correct the issues has been difficult. You apparently assume Oppo is at fault here and I don't have information to come to that conclusion. A single player that plays all of these formats over HDMI isn't a simple player to make, otherwise there would be some challenge to Oppo at the Oppo price point.

I believe Oppo provides high quality and exceptional value with excellent customer service. That opinion is based on owning Oppo players for several years. If your experience is Oppo players have issues with your equipment, then your experience is certainly different than mine. I personally hope Oppo finds a way to fix any remaining issues with the DV-983H. Read threads on the $2,000+ plus Blu-ray players and I think you will see those players have owners claiming there are issues with their systems.

Chris

Now Opposhop also finished to sell the DV-983H, it has disappeared from their webpage. However the BDP-831 is coming soon. :wink:

Now Opposhop also finished to sell the DV-983H, it has disappeared from their webpage. However the BDP-831 is coming soon. :wink:
What's this BDP-831? where can I read about it?

What's this BDP-831? where can I read about it?

It is a European version of the BDP-83.

-Bill

What's this BDP-831? where can I read about it?

There is most likely lots of discussion of the BDP-831 at AVForums.com.

Thanks Bill and Dave.

I'm relieved that it's only a European equivalent. For a minute there I was afraid the 83 was being upgraded so soon after its release.

I still say this is one of the best dvd players released at any price.
I whole-heartedly agree with this. I love this player AND my BDP-83!

Thanks Bill and Dave.

I'm relieved that it's only a European equivalent. For a minute there I was afraid the 83 was being upgraded so soon after its release.

Why be afraid of an improved or new player? Blu-ray is barely achieving market results and profits to assure continued support by the industry. It is my hope that whatever needs to happen for better market results and greater growth happens. New players, better players, less expensive players, anything that helps is fine with me. The larger picture is much more important than whether or not my player maintains good value or that it is the best player.

Chris

Hi:
It´s been a while since I get to the forum. My 983 player works flawlessly so far (I cross my fingers) in native Pal and NTSC, so no complain here. The subs issue appears once in every movie but nothin that you can not tolerate and get crazy about. I prefer not to upgrade firmware since beta ones looks not away from risks.
But now I bought a Sony Handy AVCHD, and want to know if I can play AVCHD DVD-R made with NeroVision (Not Bluray-R) with OPPO 983H. I guess not, but I ask this to you that know the device way better than me. Also, could I play the same AVCHD DVD file from a Kingston USB pendrive plugged in the back of the OPPO 983? So, to sum up, is there any way to play AVCHD discs on the OPPO 983H?
Or I will have to buy any BD player for this task?.
Thanks.

As far as I know, the 983H does not support AVCHD. AVCHD was developed to store HD content, while the 983H is built specifically for 480i video sources. As a result, the Mediatek chip at the 983H's heart doesn't know what to do with AVCHD content. You would need a Blu-ray player to gain support for AVCHD.

Hi:
It´s been a while since I get to the forum. My 983 player works flawlessly so far (I cross my fingers) in native Pal and NTSC, so no complain here. The subs issue appears once in every movie but nothin that you can not tolerate and get crazy about. I prefer not to upgrade firmware since beta ones looks not away from risks.
But now I bought a Sony Handy AVCHD, and want to know if I can play AVCHD DVD-R made with NeroVision (Not Bluray-R) with OPPO 983H. I guess not, but I ask this to you that know the device way better than me. Also, could I play the same AVCHD DVD file from a Kingston USB pendrive plugged in the back of the OPPO 983? So, to sum up, is there any way to play AVCHD discs on the OPPO 983H?
Or I will have to buy any BD player for this task?.
Thanks.

The Oppo DV-983H doesn't play any true HD formats to the best of my knowledge, including AVCHD. I also just purchased a Sony AVCHD camcorder, the HDR-UX10. The PS3 and Oppo BDP-83 both play AVCHD for starters and many other Blu-ray players do as well.

Chris

To Gonk & Chris:
Thank you for your fast answers. I have asked just in case there was a hidden feature within OPPO 983H that I did not know.

A bit off-topic, but here it goes:

have you guys noted the so-common absence of this topic? I mean, every once in a while I do access this very thread (as I'm a 983 happy owner though) and quite often I just can't find it at all...

Am I getting blind, or there's something in-between I'm missing??

A bit off-topic, but here it goes:

have you guys noted the so-common absence of this topic? I mean, every once in a while I do access this very thread (as I'm a 983 happy owner though) and quite often I just can't find it at all...

Am I getting blind, or there's something in-between I'm missing??

Not sure I understand. My subscription has worked since day one.

Has been a very quiet thread for quite some time. Happy owners with no problems?

Joe

If no one replies to it, and it sinks to page two or more, you might not notice the thread anymore.

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If no one replies to it, and it sinks to page two or more, you might not notice the thread anymore.

Got your point,

problem is, as I said before, that quite often there's no page two, so you got no choice, as the whole thread just disappears... Really, I was quite surprised to see the 983 thread over again today :)

Maybe Smarty has the smart answer, though ;)

:confused:

I guess it's back up on page one, for tonight only.

And hey, when will this player be updated to use those new blue ray thingys?

I guess it's back up on page one, for tonight only.

And hey, when will this player be updated to use those new blue ray thingys?


:D Good one Bronco

^It already HAS been updated. It's called the BDP-83.;)

Anyone having audio dropouts with the 983 going into a Pioneer 919 receiver? I get a dropout about every 15-20 minutes on every DVD. No issues with my ps3 or media streamer all of which connect through HDMI. I tried all of Oppo support's suggestions and both beta and release firmware. Nothing has helped.

Does anyone else have a new Pioneer AVR working with their 983?

Anyone having audio dropouts with the 983 going into a Pioneer 919 receiver? I get a dropout about every 15-20 minutes on every DVD. No issues with my PS or media streamer all of which connect through HDMI. I tried all of Oppo support's suggestions and both beta and release firmware. Nothing has helped.

Does anyone else have a new Pioneer AVR working with their 983?

Just upgraded to a Elite SC-25 2weeks ago and have been going thru all my reference disks, so far so good.:)

My question is regarding the sharpness setting of the 983. The general consensus is that sharpness should be set to -1 (though I understand each display will react differently). To those who arrived at such a setting, did it result in virtually NO edge enhancement, or was it a compromise position between EE and overall image quality?

I ask because using the multiburst patterns of DVE and GetGray (I don't own AVIA), the -2 setting produces almost no EE. However the end result with real-world footage, the overall image is akin to my 981, in that its a bit soft and two dimensional. I also noticed a little less visible noise when watching DVD's (comparing the -2 setting to the 0 default setting; haven't yet tried -1 compared to -2). On the dedicated sharpness patterns (not the multiburst patterns), I notice very little difference, if at all, between -2, -1, and only a slight difference with a setting of 0.

Getting back to my question, if I'm looking for the image to remain as pure as possible, should I stick with -2 sharpness setting? I remember an individual on this thread tried -2, and found it to alter the brightness of the sharpness test pattern on AVIA. Unfortunately I don't remember the specifics, but would -2 cause the 982 to artificially soften/harm the picture?

My question is regarding the sharpness setting of the 983. The general consensus is that sharpness should be set to -1 (though I understand each display will react differently). To those who arrived at such a setting, did it result in virtually NO edge enhancement, or was it a compromise position between EE and overall image quality?

I ask because using the multiburst patterns of DVE and GetGray (I don't own AVIA), the -2 setting produces almost no EE. However the end result with real-world footage, the overall image is akin to my 981, in that its a bit soft and two dimensional. I also noticed a little less visible noise when watching DVD's (comparing the -2 setting to the 0 default setting; haven't yet tried -1 compared to -2). On the dedicated sharpness patterns (not the multiburst patterns), I notice very little difference, if at all, between -2, -1, and only a slight difference with a setting of 0.

Getting back to my question, if I'm looking for the image to remain as pure as possible, should I stick with -2 sharpness setting? I remember an individual on this thread tried -2, and found it to alter the brightness of the sharpness test pattern on AVIA. Unfortunately I don't remember the specifics, but would -2 cause the 982 to artificially soften/harm the picture?

I think I have it at -2. I use the Alignment/Overscan pattern on GetGray and -2 eliminates the halo ringing I can see from my seating distance. I check against the Frequency Burst and Belle-Nuit patterns to see that fine detail is not lost and it seems to be ok.

I think any adjustment of sharpness is going to change the brightness of a test pattern: you are either adding or reducing the halos and this causes the pattern to change.

As to a pure image: I don't know, it is complicated and the brain likes to be fooled by certain things. I don't like to see artificial sharpening on my movies either, but when looking less and greater sharpening applied, the one with sharper edges (and therefore less fine detail) can sometimes look very good.

But as I said, I use -2.

-Bill

Getting back to my question, if I'm looking for the image to remain as pure as possible, should I stick with -2 sharpness setting? I remember an individual on this thread tried -2, and found it to alter the brightness of the sharpness test pattern on AVIA. Unfortunately I don't remember the specifics, but would -2 cause the 982 to artificially soften/harm the picture?

You have the tools there to make that decision. A variety of display settings will alter what you see with these adjustments. So you need to start with the display settings that give the most "neutral" image. I always ran my 983 at default settings and found that to give the best image on my display. Some displays force a certain amount of detail or edge enhancement and might benefit from adjustment in the player. It's always a trade-off.

Just upgraded to a Elite SC-25 2weeks ago and have been going thru all my reference disks, so far so good.:)

Well, I ended up going HDMI to the TV and coaxial SPDIF to the AVR. I managed to get one hit on Google about a guy who upgraded to the BDP-83 and it did not have the same issue. This is not encouraging - especially since Oppo has not bothered to finalize the firmware on the 983. I wonder if I will go with an Oppo BD player when I start collecting foreign BDs.

Well, I ended up going HDMI to the TV and coaxial SPDIF to the AVR. I managed to get one hit on Google about a guy who upgraded to the BDP-83 and it did not have the same issue. This is not encouraging - especially since Oppo has not bothered to finalize the firmware on the 983. I wonder if I will go with an Oppo BD player when I start collecting foreign BDs.

The more I read online, the happier I am about keeping my 983 and waiting a loooonng time before going BD...especially the 83. With the prices of blu-ray players going down monthly ($169 at my local wal-mart) when I decide to go BD, it most certainly won't be an 83. Oppo's cutting off firmware improvements of the 983 prematurely, coupled with a hefty & increasingly unrealistic pricing, has made me a dis-believer And besides, BD is BD -- any way you cut it.:D:D

The more I read online, the happier I am about keeping my 983 and waiting a loooonng time before going BD...especially the 83. With the prices of blu-ray players going down monthly ($169 at my local wal-mart) when I decide to go BD, it most certainly won't be an 83. Oppo's cutting off firmware improvements of the 983 prematurely, coupled with a hefty & increasingly unrealistic pricing, has made me a dis-believer And besides, BD is BD -- any way you cut it.:D:D

People will still spend $500-800 for one of their two BR players, but when you can get 99% of its BR quality and 95% of its SD DVD quality from other players for $225 (Pio BDP-320 for example) its kind of hard to justify for most.

To each their own. OPPO offers many more features and support for their BD players than most other OEMs. If that support is something you are willing to trade for lower price, and if the features that are available from OPPO do not interest you, then maybe you are better of with something cheaper... suffice it to say though, not better.

As for support for the 983, I would have liked, or would have liked to see them give out one more 'good will' fw release for owners who paid quite a bit for the player.
In the defense of such an idea, what other company out there even supports their player for longer than a year? ...and these days, it's more like 6 months.
The 983 is still a very nice and solid dvd player.

To each their own. OPPO offers many more features and support for their BD players than most other OEMs. If that support is something you are willing to trade for lower price, and if the features that are available from OPPO do not interest you, then maybe you are better of with something cheaper... suffice it to say though, not better.


If you have a still serviceable DV-980H, DV981-HD or DV-983H you have most of those legacy features covered. Most any mid-range BR player with give you very close to the same HD picture as the BDP-83. Guess its nice if you want just one box on your rack or want to patronize Oppo's latest and greatest. Blu-Ray is a great leveler and the fact a player is so packed it can do everything but brew you a cappuccino doesn't change the fact most BR IQ isn't vastly different from another (and that is their primary function).

Sorry, getting OT for this thread - I just can see bobve3rens point.

I don't want to get into a whole 'thing' about features Jeffredo, but there are MANY features that the BDP-83 has that most budget BD players do not have.
You may browse the online manual, the online FAQ, the first post of the BDP-83 Owner's thread, and the Owner's thread itself for more info.

The BDP-83 gives higher performance in most areas than all of their older players as you mention. In some areas the difference is significant, and in some areas more marginal. Most differences are in the advancement of menu options rather than just simply support of legacy dvd codecs and functions.
With Blu-ray playback, the advancements are both with menu options and with additional features not included with Budget BD players.

Once again, sacrificing those advancements, in exchange for another product that may serve you almost as well for (arguably) less money, then that is a choice every buyer and/or user has the option of doing.

We seem to be talking in circles and this will be my last post on it. Again, I'm just saying that I understand bobve3rens point of view being the owner of a DV-983H. Its a very capable (as you know) universal player. Owning such a player that is still in good working condition might give one pause to think about buying a BDP-83. If all you are wanting to add is Blu-Ray playback one of the fine $200-225 players out there would do it, very nearly as well as the Oppo in many cases, and you still have the DV-983H for the rest of the formats.

I'm not saying the 83 isn't a great player - but it is steep for some and you are going to be duplicating features you already may have on an Oppo DVD player (even if it may be not quite as adept at them as the 83). Again, I'm just saying I can see his point of view (and of course you can still sell your Oppo DVD player to defray the cost of an 83 - which I'm sure is what many do).

We seem to be talking in circles and this will be my last post on it. Again, I'm just saying that I understand bobve3rens point of view being the owner of a DV-983H. Its a very capable (as you know) universal player. Owning such a player that is still in good working condition might give one pause to think about buying a BDP-83. If all you are wanting to add is Blu-Ray playback one of the fine $200-225 players out there would do it, very nearly as well as the Oppo in many cases, and you still have the DV-983H for the rest of the formats.

I'm not saying the 83 isn't a great player - but it is steep for some and you are going to be duplicating features you already may have on an Oppo DVD player (even if it may be not quite as adept at them as the 83). Again, I'm just saying I can see his point of view (and of course you can still sell your Oppo DVD player to defray the cost of an 83 - which I'm sure is what many do).

Point taken, and yes, it is a valid point.
Seriously though, there ARE some features to the BDP-83 that average BD players do not have. These features may or may not be a benefit to any given user depending on their setup.
Just as well, there are features that other BD players have, that the BDP-83 does not.
Said buyer/user has to decide what is best for them.

Personally, I subscribe to the idea of sell the 983, and buy a BDP-83 + region free kit. Just my opinion though.
Of course, I have the ability to see into the near future, so my opinion also stems from my soothsaying abilities.;)

Personally, I subscribe to the idea of sell the 983, and buy a BDP-83 + region free kit. Just my opinion though.


Used 983s are selling for enough to nearly cover the price of a BDP-83. Food for thought.

Used 983s are selling for enough to nearly cover the price of a BDP-83. Food for thought.
(nods in agreement)

Used 983s are selling for enough to nearly cover the price of a BDP-83. Food for thought.

Although I have not been actively marketing my 983, I have mentioned it a few times and had some interest...but I haven't seen serious buyers as have been mentioned. I really didn't want to go the ebay route, but may.

The 83 has worked well, and honestly, I am just not watching that many standard DVD's. The 983 is actually a machine for someone with a more serious collection than I have. BOTH are exceptional machines, that's for sure.

Thinking about selling the 983. I can work around the region issue, a tiny bit of hassle, i just don't get that many discs from other regions at this point. The 83 works well.

I don't see any for sale at this point, curious about what i should be asking for it?

(nods in agreement)

You guys are right there - just perusing eBay the lesser Oppo players (970, 980,981) are going for at least 2/3 of their original retail price used, so a good 983 might cover all but about $100-$200 of a new BDP-83. That would make it a lot more compelling (and reinforces the idea of buying really good hardware that holds its value).

Oops, posted again on the subject when I said I wouldn't. ;)

You guys are right there - just perusing eBay the lesser Oppo players (970, 980,981) are going for at least 2/3 of their original retail price used, so a good 983 might cover all but about $100-$200 of a new BDP-83. That would make it a lot more compelling (and reinforces the idea of buying really good hardware that holds its value).

Oops, posted again on the subject when I said I wouldn't. ;)

I would be surprised to see a 983 sell for less than full retail price. Assuming all original packing, cables and good condition.

980s are selling for more than full retail.

I would be surprised to see a 983 sell for less than full retail price. Assuming all original packing, cables and good condition.

980s are selling for more than full retail.

I love having nice gear that holds it's value. It costs more, but the performance increase and better support makes it worth it.
You hate to part with certain things, like an awesome DV-983H, but there always comes a time.
Being able to sell it and upgrade to better for very little out of pocket expense is really cool. Most of the gear I have is that way.
When I sold my 983, I put it up for $50 less than retail and it sold in one hour.:eek::cool:

I love having nice gear that holds it's value. It costs more, but the performance increase and better support makes it worth it.
You hate to part with certain things, like an awesome DV-983H, but there always comes a time.
Being able to sell it and upgrade to better for very little out of pocket expense is really cool. Most of the gear I have is that way.
When I sold my 983, I put it up for $50 less than retail and it sold in one hour.:eek::cool:

Where did you sell it? I would sell mine for $350 in an hour!

Where did you sell it? I would sell mine for $350 in an hour!

FleaBay

Folks, does it got DVD "resume" playback and remember where you stopped in a movie if the power goes off?

Just for one disc, or can it remember multiple discs (like my current Pioneer)?

Thanks!

Folks, does it got DVD "resume" playback and remember where you stopped in a movie if the power goes off?

Just for one disc, or can it remember multiple discs (like my current Pioneer)?

Thanks!

It will remember the position of 5 DVDs.

-Bill

Mine is on Videogon, gotta make room. great player..

I've had mine for about 7 months now and the problems I've noticed have been with the inability to load (unknown disc - I've cleaned the lens with discwasher DVD lens cleaner disc) some home-burned material that when loaded into an older Helios H4000, Sony DVD-725P, and Philips DVDR-375H, there are no issues. Another thing that bothers me is the less-than-sensitive eject button on the unit. Sometimes I have to press it three or four times to get it to open/close.

Anyone else experiencing problems like this?

I have the latest beta firmware installed.

I tried the beta firmware many months and ended up going back to the older version because I was having problems wirh reds being distorted and combing-the only time I ever had it say "unknown disc" was when I accidently inserted an unmarked disc (yes it can and did happen) that was an AVCHD that should have gone into my BDP2500.

I've had mine for about 7 months now and the problems I've noticed have been with the inability to load (unknown disc - I've cleaned the lens with discwasher DVD lens cleaner disc) some home-burned material that when loaded into an older Helios H4000, Sony DVD-725P, and Philips DVDR-375H, there are no issues. Another thing that bothers me is the less-than-sensitive eject button on the unit. Sometimes I have to press it three or four times to get it to open/close.

Anyone else experiencing problems like this?

When I first got my 983 it would not read a few discs. As time went on it got worse, it would skip and freeze up on lightly scuffed netflix dvds (they played fine in my ps3). It finally became so bad I shipped it back to oppo. They sent me a different player, and I have not had an unknown disc error since. Thus, I recommend you tell oppo your woes, and send it back so they can fix it up or exchange it.

I love having nice gear that holds it's value. It costs more, but the performance increase and better support makes it worth it.
You hate to part with certain things, like an awesome DV-983H, but there always comes a time.
Being able to sell it and upgrade to better for very little out of pocket expense is really cool. Most of the gear I have is that way.
When I sold my 983, I put it up for $50 less than retail and it sold in one hour.:eek::cool:

I doubt I'll ever sell my 983H, will keep it until it dies:).

Now that BD players are in the under-$150 range (Samsung unit for $139 at Costco & Sam's Club) if I ever get the urge to watch blu-ray, it's a no-brainer.

On a cheerier note, I wonder how soon the BDP-83 owners will start whining once Oppo drops support (as they did for the 983H) to make way for their brand-spanking $900 BDP-83SE *chuckle*. There's a pattern emerging...and it ain't good for Oppo fans of old. I guess they're dumping the "value" line for "high end" where there's more profit. Oh well...

I just upgraded one of my 83's to the SE since it's used strictly
in 2-channel mode. I asked OPPO if a like upgrade would be
offered for the 983 - ESS Sabre DAC's, power supply upgrades, etc.

They said 'NO'. There are some mods, but none make use of
the ESS Sabre.

The 983 would become my music-only player as I only play
SACD's and CD's, etc. The 83SE will end up in the bedroom -
it's 2-channel also. Doing 5.X or 7.X is too difficult with the
floor plan and layout of the furniture...moving the bed to the
middle of the room is out (zero WAF).

Perhaps someone will be doing 983 mods using newer DAC's - but
I doubt it - the 983 is a dead product (in OPPO's eyes).

If OPPO is smart, they'll continue to offer a quality product at
the usual price-point of about $499, but also offer an 'phile' version
for an additional $400-$500. This way they cover both segments
of the market without losing to either.

I think any attempt to move upscale and offer only the higher priced
product will be akin to putting both feet in the proverbial coffin.

If anyone knows of ESS Sabre mods for the 983, please post.

Cheers!

Good news on the RX-V3900 passing a 1080p signal from the 983.
The latest firmware(v1.09) available from this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17705650#post17705650) appears to fix the problem and the 3900 now passes a 1080p signal.
I was only able to test it on a 19" LCD from the bedroom as my main TV decided to die last month and won't be able to replace it to next year, so I'm back to CRT for my main room.:(

It also seems to solve the power on sequence issue I had, before I had to have the 3900 powered up before the 983 or audio would drop in & out constantly, I tested it a couples of times since updating and no problems at all now.

Hopefully the 3900 and 983 will play nicely together from now.

Cheers.

When I first got my 983 it would not read a few discs. As time went on it got worse, it would skip and freeze up on lightly scuffed netflix dvds (they played fine in my ps3). It finally became so bad I shipped it back to oppo. They sent me a different player, and I have not had an unknown disc error since. Thus, I recommend you tell oppo your woes, and send it back so they can fix it up or exchange it.
Thanks. Will contact Oppo.

Good news on the RX-V3900 passing a 1080p signal from the 983.
The latest firmware(v1.09) available from this (..) appears to fix the problem and the 3900 now passes a 1080p signal.
I was only able to test it on a 19" LCD from the bedroom as my main TV decided to die last month and won't be able to replace it to next year, so I'm back to CRT for my main room.:(

It also seems to solve the power on sequence issue I had, before I had to have the 3900 powered up before the 983 or audio would drop in & out constantly, I tested it a couples of times since updating and no problems at all now.

Hopefully the 3900 and 983 will play nicely together from now.

Cheers.

Well I have also the 3900 (european version) end the 983 (american version). And for me this firmware not solve the problem about the 1080p signal. Please can you say much about your configuration ...

The set up used was 983 -->3900-->Xi-en 19" LCD TV.

When I first tested I just ran it for about 10 mins it worked so I put LCD back in bedroom.

I pulled it out and did some more testing.

I took out the music DVD I had in the 983 set it all up and got a 1080p@50Hz signal via HDMI, see first pic below showing 1080p@50Hz being received by 3900 and output to TV(no disc in 983).

I then put the DVD I was watching back in and it changed to 1080p@60Hz being received and output to TV(DVD was NTSC).

Now I thought I would try a PAL DVD, so I grabbed Forrest Gump and put it in the 983, signal changed to 1080p@50Hz as expected for a PAL DVD, see second pic below taken while disc playing.

So far all working good!

Now I went to put the music DVD I had been watching back in and I lost signal at 1080p!
I tried turning off 983, 3900 etc cycling through the resolutions on the 983 but I could not get it back, will have to try to some more testing another day to determine if there is a trick to get 1080p working

FYI I am using the final European firmware release.

Also still get the occasional audio drop-out over HDMI when using it for DVD-Audio and Video discs, SACD etc.

Thank a lot Blackrose666 for this test. I will try again in my installation later.

I want to be able to watch this occasionally for stereo to tv thru hdmi, but mostly I want to use this player as a transport for cd playback through my Benchmark dac. I'm confused at what settings to use so I can hook this up with hdmi ( to tv for movies stereo only )and coaxial rca when playing cd's through my benchmark dac.
set up
speaker set up=down mix stereo- front speaker large
audio set up page - hdmi (auto) digital output raw LPCM RATE 192k

will this set up allow stereo hdmi to tv and the best unprocessed digital information to dac at the same time. I want to use it as back up DVD and mainly a transport for my digital audio.
any comments would be appreciated

I want to be able to watch this occasionally for stereo to tv thru hdmi, but mostly I want to use this player as a transport for cd playback through my Benchmark dac. I'm confused at what settings to use so I can hook this up with hdmi ( to tv for movies stereo only )and coaxial rca when playing cd's through my benchmark dac.
set up
speaker set up=down mix stereo- front speaker large
audio set up page - hdmi (auto) digital output raw LPCM RATE 192k

will this set up allow stereo hdmi to tv and the best unprocessed digital information to dac at the same time. I want to use it as back up DVD and mainly a transport for my digital audio.
any comments would be appreciated

If I recall correctly, the speaker setup and downmix applies only to the analog output, so doesn't matter for HDMI or coax.

LPCM rate applies only to coax/optical: set it as high as your receiver can accept.

So I think you are good to go.

-Bill

Bill, thanks so much for your quick response, I greatly appreciate it.

Is there any demand for used DV-983H's? Any idea what I ought to ask for my mint w/box & accessories unit? I didn't see any on eBay...

TIA

Is there any demand for used DV-983H's? Any idea what I ought to ask for my mint w/box & accessories unit? I didn't see any on eBay...

TIA

They are generally selling for full retail. You don't see any on ebay because they are rare. Lowest recent sale price I've seen was $300.

Is there any demand for used DV-983H's? Any idea what I ought to ask for my mint w/box & accessories unit? I didn't see any on eBay...

TIA

You answered your own question when you wrote you don't see any on eBay. The cheaper that BD players get -- combined with "new, improved" expen$ive Oppos -- a superb upconverting, multi-region player like the 983H is even that much more valuable. I love mine and wouldn't part with it for anything.

As for blu-ray, the $129 Samsung I bought at Costco last month does the job beautifully for the few BD discs I rent -- and it offers streaming Netflix & and Pandora...another plus not found on the "new, improved" Oppos. Their latest attempt to sell a "budget" $289 blu-ray player tells me their BD offerings aren't doing as well as they anticipated.

You answered your own question when you wrote you don't see any on eBay. The cheaper that BD players get -- combined with "new, improved" expen$ive Oppos -- a superb upconverting, multi-region player like the 983H is even that much more valuable. I love mine and wouldn't part with it for anything.

As for blu-ray, the $129 Samsung I bought at Costco last month does the job beautifully for the few BD discs I rent -- and it offers streaming Netflix & and Pandora...another plus not found on the "new, improved" Oppos. Their latest attempt to sell a "budget" $289 blu-ray player tells me their BD offerings aren't doing as well as they anticipated.

I don't think I answered my own question, but I'm glad to hear that there are folks like you that might want my 983H. As a new owner of the Oppo BD-83, I have no more need for my 983H :cool:

"Expen$ive" is relative; IMO, you get more than what you pay for with the BD-83 ;)

With a couple hundred Blu-rays and counting, I'm looking at getting better performance than "run-of-the-mill" BD players provide. The BD-83 gives me that. (As I'm sure you're aware, I still get the 983H's DVD performance with the BD-83.) Anyway, I'm glad that unloading my 983H will be easy :D

They are generally selling for full retail. You don't see any on ebay because they are rare. Lowest recent sale price I've seen was $300.

Thank you. This helps! :)

...Their latest attempt to sell a "budget" $289 blu-ray player tells me their BD offerings aren't doing as well as they anticipated. Nonsense! The BDP-83 is doing exceedingly well. They are still selling like hot cakes on Amazon, and remain high in the sales rank for Blue-ray players, even in the face of competition from much cheaper models from major manufacturers. The reason is the incredible performance of the 83 - much like that of your beloved 983 - only better.

The BDP-80 is another brilliant player, just without the superior ABT processing for standard def. It will do just as well as the 980 did, at a price point that will appeal to those with fewer sheckles to spend, or those who need a simple player with Source-Direct mode for external processors.

Gary

Is there any demand for used DV-983H's? Any idea what I ought to ask for my mint w/box & accessories unit? I didn't see any on eBay...

TIA

I'm pretty sure I bought the last one that showed up on the bay. $300.00 + $20.00. Worth every penny for my extensive SD-DVD PAL collection:D When I was researching what the going rates were, it seems that $275.00 to $325.00 plus shipping is the norm.

I'm pretty sure I bought the last one that showed up on the bay. $300.00 + $20.00. Worth every penny for my extensive SD-DVD PAL collection:D When I was researching what the going rates were, it seems that $275.00 to $325.00 plus shipping is the norm.

I'll be happy to get around $300 + shipping! :D

I also remembered that I bought an extended warranty from Oppo which has a bit over a year left, but unfortunately it doesn't transfer :mad: Anyway, I've never actually tried selling anything online before, so I guess I'll try eBay, or maybe try here at AVS.

Nonsense! The BDP-83 is doing exceedingly well. They are still selling like hot cakes on Amazon, and remain high in the sales rank for Blue-ray players, even in the face of competition from much cheaper models from major manufacturers. The reason is the incredible performance of the 83 - much like that of your beloved 983 - only better.

The BDP-80 is another brilliant player, just without the superior ABT processing for standard def. It will do just as well as the 980 did, at a price point that will appeal to those with fewer sheckles to spend, or those who need a simple player with Source-Direct mode for external processors.

Yet another overpriced Oppo blu-ray player a few stops behind the times; no streaming support like Netflix, Amazon, Pandora, multi-region, PAL support...etc. etc. etc. For another 100 fanboy sheckles less you can get a Samsung or Sony bd player...and keep enjoying the awesome benefits of the DV-983H -- if you still have yours, that is...:D

Yet another overpriced Oppo blu-ray player a few stops behind the times; no streaming support like Netflix, Amazon, Pandora, multi-region, PAL support...etc. etc. etc. For another 100 fanboy sheckles less you can get a Samsung or Sony bd player...and keep enjoying the awesome benefits of the DV-983H -- if you still have yours, that is...:D Quite frankly, streaming seems like such a step into the dark ages! I'd MUCH rather view (and hear) HI-DEF content on my system thank you very much - not some nasty, overcompressed image with stereo audio that cannot even come close to DVD.

The other players you mentioned, won't do the hi-def audio formats like SACD/DVD-A. Nor will they do Source-Direct to outboard scalers.

The 80/83 players do have PAL support, just not multi-region.

And yes, I've kept my 983 for the rare times that I watch a region2 DVD. :D

Gary

Yet another overpriced Oppo blu-ray player a few stops behind the times; no streaming support like Netflix, Amazon, Pandora, multi-region, PAL support...etc. etc. etc. For another 100 fanboy sheckles less you can get a Samsung or Sony bd player...and keep enjoying the awesome benefits of the DV-983H -- if you still have yours, that is...:D

Is there another Blu-ray player on the market in the USA that can be bought with region free capabilities out of the box?
Please point it out to us.
As already mentioned, the player does have full PAL support in all it's glory.

Quite frankly, streaming seems like such a step into the dark ages! I'd MUCH rather view (and hear) HI-DEF content on my system thank you very much - not some nasty, overcompressed image with stereo audio that cannot even come close to DVD.

Gary

Funny you should reference "overcompressed" images on streaming video, because my nephew and I were watching the "Caprica" 2-hr. pilot flick in HD (along with awesome 5.1 surround sound) from Amazon and it looked incredible -- true 1080p HD, blu-ray quality. Perhaps you should do some research on streaming movie & music devices or get a fast internet connection. It's the FUTURE (perhaps the very near future!) good buddy, not the "dark ages."

Sigh...ignorance is such bliss:D

Funny you should reference "overcompressed" images on streaming video, because my nephew and I were watching the "Caprica" 2-hr. pilot flick in HD (along with awesome 5.1 surround sound) from Amazon and it looked incredible -- true 1080p HD, blu-ray quality. Perhaps you should do some research on streaming movie & music devices or get a fast internet connection. It's the FUTURE (perhaps the very near future!) good buddy, not the "dark ages."

Sigh...ignorance is such bliss:D

Pretty funny. You should know that some of us have seen Amazon.com streaming and you aren't gaining credibility with absurd comments like that. True 1080p HD and awesome 5.1 surround? You can certainly believe that is what you observed but it was most certainly highly compressed video and highly compressed lossy audio. If your opinion is that it wasn't "overcompressed", that is a vague enough statement that your opinion is ok with me but I would disagree, see if you can find the bitrates used and compare that to the typical Blu-ray disc.

Also as far as value, how much did the download rental cost?

Chris

Pretty funny. You should know that some of us have seen Amazon.com streaming and you aren't gaining credibility with absurd comments like that. True 1080p HD and awesome 5.1 surround? You can certainly believe that is what you observed but it was most certainly highly compressed video and highly compressed lossy audio. If your opinion is that it wasn't "overcompressed", that is a vague enough statement that your opinion is ok with me but I would disagree, see if you can find the bitrates used and compare that to the typical Blu-ray disc.

Also as far as value, how much did the download rental cost?

Chris

Sorry, but I don't check bitrate readings on my Pioneer Elite Kuro 111FD, just the picture and content -- both my 24-yr. old nephew and I were quite impressed with the quality of that Amazon streaming HD video we watched. Compressed? Perhaps...but the proof is in the pudding -- and it tasted mighty good :) .. as did the sound. And movie freak that I am, Netflick's streaming selection of 20,000+ titles are heaven. For moi, it's substance & content over whiz/bang any day.

Oh, and when you mention value in the same post as your fanboy defense of blu-ray and Oppo's new/improved/overpriced units, the irony is inescapable. Honest. Blu-ray & value? LOL!!!

Could we please stick to the 983H here? Plenty of other threads for Netflix, etc.

-Bill

Could we please stick to the 983H here? Plenty of other threads for Netflix, etc.

-Bill

Actually, the posts are part of a thread that began when I opined that a combination of a 983H and an inexpensive Samsung, Sony, etc. blu-ray player provides the best of all worlds when compared with Oppo's recent pricey...and function-limited...offerings; as well my lament about the premature demise of the 983H and Oppo's quick customer-be-damned lack of support for it.

That, to me, seems like a pretty valid topic as regards the 983, no?

That, to me, seems like a pretty valid topic as regards the 983, no?

No, not really.

The 983 has been discontinued for some time now, and software support has ended, although OPPO will continue to support any hardware under warranty, as well as out of warranty repairs for any applicable charges.
End of topic.

Yes, if you would like to pair a lower cost BD player with a 983, using the added player for Blu-ray only at 1080p, then that is a very valid possibility for a nice setup as long as you do not mind running two separate players... maybe even 3 if you have an HD DVD player.
End of topic.

Netfix streaming has it's pros and cons. Mostly cons, but depending on the content being viewed, and your connection speed, it can look like a decent dvd presentation, though in it's present state will never look like quality Blu-ray.
As already said though, this is not the place to discuss such things.
End of topic.

So after those things have been cleared out of the way, the only thing left is your constant ramblings, bitching, and whining of how you want OPPO to spend time and money on a discontinued product.
All the while calling names like "fanboy" and whatever else to anyone who may disagree with you.
Maybe it's just time to move on and start a new obsession.
If you are going to keep your 983, then you will have to enjoy it as is.
Otherwise, the resale prices are still high, and you could get most if not all of your money back out of it if you chose to do so.

Be kind, rewind, don't eat no yellow snow, and have a nice day.:)

Had to settle for refurbed 980h. Sigh. Family room has it, and is happy on 40".

For my 65" theater, I'm still hoping to fall into an un-abused 983h to replace a current Denon 2910 that is paired with my Pioneer BDP-51D.

Muliti-region is a must, and we have lots of SD-DVD's. The 983 would take over the DVD work and allow the Pioneer to be used only for Blu-ray, and the CD job from existing Denon 2910 (which also handles multi-region for the wife). The 5+yr old faroudjia set-up from the Denon is positively SAD when compared to SD-DVD output from the Pioneer. Thus, Denon is used as CD and multi-region DVD only. But, I do fret that the Pioneer might not last long as I bought open box (one bill) with warranty from Ult.Elec, who had it in a demo room.

I can understand not supporting out-of warranty AND out of production models. Especially when OPPO has done such good customer service work in building the reputation that it has, the company need have little to fear from the impact of a poster who appears to not want anything to change that might impact that individual.

Hell, if OPPO'dve asked me I would've told them to build a 983 with all of the video punch (ADP 29??) possible with minimal outputs and NOT optimized for onboard audio DA conversion. Best audio out via HDMI and/or digital optical or coax. Maybe throw in component video. But, maybe there was just no way to make enough money to sell such a unit at sub @200 and still maintain an attractive fit, finish, and heft that oozes quality. Because "Everybody knows" that you can't charge over $120 for a plain ol' DVD player anymore. ...

Anyways, I'll always keep an eye on OPPO, even when I can't throw money at em. They strike me as smart folks.

MKard
in AZ

Had to settle for refurbed 980h. Sigh. Family room has it, and is happy on 40".

For my 65" theater, I'm still hoping to fall into an un-abused 983h to replace a current Denon 2910 that is paired with my Pioneer BDP-51D.

Muliti-region is a must, and we have lots of SD-DVD's. The 983 would take over the DVD work and allow the Pioneer to be used only for Blu-ray, and the CD job from existing Denon 2910 (which also handles multi-region for the wife). The 5+yr old faroudjia set-up from the Denon is positively SAD when compared to SD-DVD output from the Pioneer. Thus, Denon is used as CD and multi-region DVD only. But, I do fret that the Pioneer might not last long as I bought open box (one bill) with warranty from Ult.Elec, who had it in a demo room.

I can understand not supporting out-of warranty AND out of production models. Especially when OPPO has done such good customer service work in building the reputation that it has, the company need have little to fear from the impact of a poster who appears to not want anything to change that might impact that individual.

Hell, if OPPO'dve asked me I would've told them to build a 983 with all of the video punch (ADP 29??) possible with minimal outputs and NOT optimized for onboard audio DA conversion. Best audio out via HDMI and/or digital optical or coax. Maybe throw in component video. But, maybe there was just no way to make enough money to sell such a unit at sub @200 and still maintain an attractive fit, finish, and heft that oozes quality. Because "Everybody knows" that you can't charge over $120 for a plain ol' DVD player anymore. ...

Anyways, I'll always keep an eye on OPPO, even when I can't throw money at em. They strike me as smart folks.

MKard
in AZ

You are in a similar situation to myself several months ago. I too own the Pioneer 51 for BD duties, and I agree that does a very good job on SD-DVD de-interlacing. Being that a large part of my SD-DVD collection are Region 2 and/or PAL disc meant that I had to keep my old, hacked Pioneer progressive scan player in the mix until a new one came around.

I began back on Black Friday by ordering a Denon 2930 from vanns. To summarize, I owned 2 of their units over the course of about 3 weeks, each player failing within about 5 days of use. I then took my chances by getting a DV-983H off of the 'bay. I figured I could atleast flip it for my purchase price if it didn't meet my needs.

I can tell you this, I paid $320.00 to have this player delivered to me, and it was worth every single penny. Not only is the picture with NTSC disc's as good (or likely better after further adjustment) than that of the Pioneer 51, but its handling of the PAL-NTSC is the best I've seen so far on my 67" display. You got a great deal on that Pio, if you can spare the 3 bills for the DV-983H, you will have a picture that is tough to beat, no matter the source.

You are in a similar situation to myself several months ago. I too own the Pioneer 51 for BD duties, and I agree that does a very good job on SD-DVD de-interlacing. Being that a large part of my SD-DVD collection are Region 2 and/or PAL disc meant that I had to keep my old, hacked Pioneer progressive scan player in the mix until a new one came around.

I began back on Black Friday by ordering a Denon 2930 from vanns. To summarize, I owned 2 of their units over the course of about 3 weeks, each player failing within about 5 days of use. I then took my chances by getting a DV-983H off of the 'bay. I figured I could atleast flip it for my purchase price if it didn't meet my needs.

I can tell you this, I paid $320.00 to have this player delivered to me, and it was worth every single penny. Not only is the picture with NTSC disc's as good (or likely better after further adjustment) than that of the Pioneer 51, but its handling of the PAL-NTSC is the best I've seen so far on my 67" display. You got a great deal on that Pio, if you can spare the 3 bills for the DV-983H, you will have a picture that is tough to beat, no matter the source.

RudigerS,

Sounds like you have the sweet solution going. Nice.

I share your disappointment with the consumer-level Denons; they seem to be going the slap'em together and ship 'em out Made in China routine for most anything obtainable for less than $1200 USD. Only above that point do you get the Made in Japan-- Like your Pioneer BD-51FD! Lovely unit.

I respect the old 2910 I've got. Tough, simple, great audio transport to a Yamaha receiver. But, just doesn't cut it nowadays for video...

I keep picturing the movie "The Gods Must be Crazy" and substituting an OPPO 983h for the Coke bottle. Catch it in mid-air, roll to the ground to protect it, take home, and all of the tribe gazes in wonder!

Ah! With a little luck and some extra valuta, I'll be set.

Anyways, enjoy.

MKard
Semper Fi

Actually, the posts are part of a thread that began when I opined that a combination of a 983H and an inexpensive Samsung, Sony, etc. blu-ray player provides the best of all worlds when compared with Oppo's recent pricey...and function-limited...offerings; as well my lament about the premature demise of the 983H and Oppo's quick customer-be-damned lack of support for it.

That, to me, seems like a pretty valid topic as regards the 983, no?

Yes it does, and as a DV-983H owner myself who's been lurking through these posts, it seems the powers that be don't like the fact that you're criticizing Oppo for prematurely disowning the model and subsequent software support. Big Brother doesn't like critics of sponsors, I guess :)

Yes it does, and as a DV-983H owner myself who's been lurking through these posts, it seems the powers that be don't like the fact that you're criticizing Oppo for prematurely disowning the model and subsequent software support. Big Brother doesn't like critics of sponsors, I guess :)

The problem is we beat the firmware issue to death months ago(August and September 2009), and it did get nasty. We should be moving on. If you want to review the topic you can visit it here. But please let it lie, if anything bitch to Oppo with an e-mail(service@oppodigital.com), this thread doesn't need the noise again.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17059270#post17059270

The problem is we beat the firmware issue to death months ago(August and September 2009), and it did get nasty. We should be moving on. If you want to review the topic you can visit it here. But please let it lie, if anything bitch to Oppo with an e-mail(service@oppodigital.com), this thread doesn't need the noise again.

Ok, no bitching about Oppo's treatment of the DV-983H owners, despite the fact that the 3 times I called them about firmware updates in the past 8 months, I was told they would post them "in due time." Still waiting. I was hoping they might heed the people who bought these gems and still hanging on to them, very very few on the used market. They used to be a different company, but I guess they're catering to a different consumer segment now. :(

I have a question...I do have the 983's menu set to screen saver when paused.. after a period of time,the screen goes blue and 480 shows on the screen...after unpausing ,I do get the pure mode/1080p thru my pioneer 150fd elite...am using HDMI input 4 (game mode) on my Onkyo 806....any thoughts...

Ok, no bitching about Oppo's treatment of the DV-983H owners, despite the fact that the 3 times I called them about firmware updates in the past 8 months, I was told they would post them "in due time."

And what did they promise was fixed? I have heard of absolutely no new firmware for the DV-983H, let alone any "promise" to release any to the public. They may work on firmware internally, but I have heard absolutely no new whispers of further firmware releases.

Either someone has been blowing smoke at you, or you are misinterpreting their statements. As an example, here is an e-mail I got when asking them about firmware for the DV-983H:

We are always working on new firmware developments legacy products, but at this time there are no new firmware available for these players. This may be due to resources being diverted to other projects (BDP-80, BDP-83/SE), the decoder manufacturer is longer providing us software support, or outstanding bugs which we do not fully understand the cause of, let alone the solution to them.

It is regrettable, but it is possible that we will not be able to further enhance the capabilities of our existing products.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119

And what did they promise was fixed? I have heard of absolutely no new firmware for the DV-983H, let alone any "promise" to release any to the public. They may work on firmware internally, but I have heard absolutely no new whispers of further firmware releases.

Either someone has been blowing smoke at you, or you are misinterpreting their statements. As an example, here is an e-mail I got when asking them about firmware for the DV-983H:

In other words Oppo used those of us who purchased 983's as guinea pigs knowing full well that the 983 was a very brief prelude to the 83 and would leave us blowing in the wind as far as firmware upgrades go-that's why-even though I still love my 983 and use it constantly-I'll never buy another Oppo product. I needed something to play AVCHD and other stuff-I got a WDTVLive and am very happy. BTW-I have a BDP2500 for my bluray needs.

In other words...

...Oppo used those of us who purchased 983's as guinea pigs...

...knowing full well that the 983 was a very brief prelude to the 83 and would leave us blowing in the wind as far as firmware upgrades go-that's why-even though...

...I still love my 983 and use it constantly...

...-I'll never buy another Oppo product.

I needed something to play AVCHD and other stuff-I got a WDTVLive and am very happy. BTW-I have a BDP2500 for my bluray needs.

Does this look familiar???...
http://www.healthsquare.com/common/images/r/ROX25270_49302_5.JPG
If not, it should.

And your point would be?

My oppologies for interrupting this thread, but the 980H owner's thread seems to have dissappeared.

Anyone know what happened to it?

I have a question concerning how it handles the DVD Audio title "Blue Man Group, The Complex".

Thank you, and again my appologies.

My oppologies for interupting this thread, but the 980H owner's thread seems to have dissappeared.

Anyone know what happened to it?

I have a question concerning how it handles the DVD Audio title "Blue Man Group, The Complex".

Thank you, and again my appologies.

OPPO Digital Presents: DV-980H (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=879341)

OPPO Digital Presents: DV-980H (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=879341)

Thanks. I found it.:o

In other words Oppo used those of us who purchased 983's as guinea pigs knowing full well that the 983 was a very brief prelude to the 83 and would leave us blowing in the wind as far as firmware upgrades go...
No, that would be like saying that DV-980H users were also used as guinea pigs for the BDP-80, as there are similar outstanding issues with the DV-980H as there are with the DV-983H (no surprise, as they utilize the same exact decoder chipsets).

...even though I still love my 983 and use it constantly...
As you note you still get a lot of use out of the player. It is not buggy to the point of being unusable or even not to be recommended. There are just some outstanding issues which we would prefer seeing fixed, but in no way is required to make the player "functional".

I'll never buy another Oppo product.
Have fun with the Samsung support you will not receive after the product has ran through its life cycle.

I've had only one problem with my 2500 and I've had it for about 14 months-the 1st time I did a firmware upgrade it bricked the darn thing-but I was able to resolve it on my own (do a search in the rather large 2550/2550 thread)-but since this is the 983 thread-it's an excellent dvd player-but let me cut to the chase-every company (Oppo, Samsung-whomever) drops the ball occasionally-but that doesn't excuse Oppo from basically leaving all the 983 buyers who shelled out good money blowing in the wind.

My apologies in reviving this thread as I can't seem to find an answer after browsing through the first 35 pages for almost 2 hours. I give up.

I intend to purchase a used 983H and noticed that component video output does not feature "VRS by Anchor Bay" technologies. However, there was a note which states "Compatibility with user-encoded contents or user-created discs is on a best effort basis with no guarantee due to the variation of media, software and techniques used."

My question is, if I use component video outputs on the 983H will I be missing the "VRS by Anchor Bay" technologies which feature precision de-interlacing, precision video scaling progressive cadence detection and Autocue-C? Will this compromise on picture quality?

Secondly can upconversion to 720p or 1080p be carried out via component video outputs?

I can only use component video outputs as my projector does not have HDMI. It only has component video and DVI connections.

My intention of getting the 983H is to obtain the best possible picture quality from my DVD collection.

Any advice would be most appreciated.

My apologies in reviving this thread as I can't seem to find an answer after browsing through the first 35 pages for almost 2 hours. I give up.

I intend to purchase a used 983H and noticed that component video output does not feature "VRS by Anchor Bay" technologies. However, there was a note which states "Compatibility with user-encoded contents or user-created discs is on a best effort basis with no guarantee due to the variation of media, software and techniques used."

My question is, if I use component video outputs on the 983H will I be missing the "VRS by Anchor Bay" technologies which feature precision de-interlacing, precision video scaling progressive cadence detection and Autocue-C? Will this compromise on picture quality?

Secondly can upconversion to 720p or 1080p be carried out via component video outputs?

I can only use component video outputs as my projector does not have HDMI. It only has component video and DVI connections.

My intention of getting the 983H is to obtain the best possible picture quality from my DVD collection.

Any advice would be most appreciated.
There's not much reason to buy a 983 if you're not using HDMI, the 980 will give the same performance over component. If you can use an HDMI->DVI adapter then the 983 would be the way to go.

Up-scaling of DVD over component is limited to non-encrypted DVDs, meaning home-made for the most part. 480p is the most you'll get from store-bought DVDs.

Thanks for the quick response. It was much appreciated. Little worried reading a lot about audio and video dropouts when HDMI was used. Anyway guess there is no way round my case other than getting a HDMI>DVI cable. Also, since upscaling of DVDs is only achievable via HDMI, guess I don't have any choice other than getting the HDMI>DVI cable. I don't have a single home-made video in my DVD collection. Thanks again for the tip.

My apologies in reviving this thread as I can't seem to find an answer after browsing through the first 35 pages for almost 2 hours. I give up.

I intend to purchase a used 983H and noticed that component video output does not feature "VRS by Anchor Bay" technologies. However, there was a note which states "Compatibility with user-encoded contents or user-created discs is on a best effort basis with no guarantee due to the variation of media, software and techniques used."

My question is, if I use component video outputs on the 983H will I be missing the "VRS by Anchor Bay" technologies which feature precision de-interlacing, precision video scaling progressive cadence detection and Autocue-C? Will this compromise on picture quality?

Secondly can upconversion to 720p or 1080p be carried out via component video outputs?

I can only use component video outputs as my projector does not have HDMI. It only has component video and DVI connections.

My intention of getting the 983H is to obtain the best possible picture quality from my DVD collection.

Any advice would be most appreciated.

As rdgrimes says, you can use any HDMI player with a DVI display, presuming the display has HDCP on that port. All you need is an adapter cable.

You are not getting your money's worth from the 983H is you use it only for component.

DVD upscaling of copy protected titles is no longer allowed over component for reasons of Digital Rights Management. Unprotected discs (home-made backups, for example) will scale to 1080p.

-Bill

Thanks for the response.

Just to ensure I don't screw up, I reckon the appropriate way is to purchase a 30' HDMI cable and get a HDMI>DVI adapter such as this http://cgi.ebay.com/DVI-Male-To-HDMI-Female-Adapter-Converter-for-HDTV-LCD_W0QQitemZ170446364515QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain _0?hash=item27af651f63 to connect the cable to the DVI port of the projector. I am not sure what is HDCP though.

Thanks for the response.

Just to ensure I don't screw up, I reckon the appropriate way is to purchase a 30' HDMI cable and get a HDMI>DVI adapter such as this http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpt=150546899&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=3&campid=5336055023&toolid=10001 http://cgi.ebay.com/DVI-Male-To-HDMI-Female-Adapter-Converter-for-HDTV-LCD_W0QQitemZ170446364515QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain _0?hash=item27af651f63 (http://go.avsforum.com/?aid=5336055023&bid=3136390&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FDVI-Male-To-HDMI-Female-Adapter-Converter-for-HDTV-LCD_W0QQitemZ170446364515QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain _0%3Fhash%3Ditem27af651f63) to connect the cable to the DVI port of the projector. I am not sure what is HDCP though.

HDCP is High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection. It is what limits dvds to 480p via component output to supposedly supress pirating of movies.

An adapter that changes one end of an hdmi->hdmi cable to DVI is one way to go. Although sometimes that can cause problems from reported history. It is usually better to go with an hdmi->dvi cable if you can.
With that said, it doesn't hurt to try the adapter, it could work just as well.
Check out Monoprice.com for you cabling and adapter needs.
High quality items can be had for very reasonable prices.

Once again, just be sure that the DVI port on your projector is HDCP compliant, otherwise it will not work with an HDCP compliant a/v component like the DV-983H.
For more on HDCP, click HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection).

Thanks for the response.

Just to ensure I don't screw up, I reckon the appropriate way is to purchase a 30' HDMI cable and get a HDMI>DVI adapter such as this http://cgi.ebay.com/DVI-Male-To-HDMI-Female-Adapter-Converter-for-HDTV-LCD_W0QQitemZ170446364515QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain _0?hash=item27af651f63 to connect the cable to the DVI port of the projector. I am not sure what is HDCP though.

If you are going to buy a new cable anyway, I would suggest one built with HDMI on one end and DVI on the other, reducing the chance of bad connections. Check forum sponsors monoprice and BluJeans for economical cables.

HDCP is the copy protection scheme for HDMI (and sometimes DVI). If your manual doesn't mention it, try googling your projector model number + DVI HDCP and see what you find.

-Bill

Actually, part of the HDCP spec is that HDCP enabled devices are supposed to play nice with non-HDCP devices. The problems that occur are usually due to devices that claim HDCP compliance but do it poorly. We haven't seen widespread problems reported with the 983 and non-HDCP displays. I used to run one with a non-HDCP DLP RP and it worked great.

Thanks for all the helpful responses. It was much appreciated. I just checked on my projector which is a Hitachi PJ-TX100. The manual did not state anything but CNET review reveals that the DVI comes with HDCP.

Now it is time I get the HDMI>DVI cable from Monoprice. Thanks for all the advice.

By the way, is the 983H a good transport for 2-channel audio? Does anyone use an outboard DAC like a Benchmark DAC1 or Paradisea Havana on the 983H for music listening? I just noticed that this machine can play SACD. Does it make a good standalone SACD player and able to compete with something like the Marantz SA8001 or something higher up like the SA11-S1? Maybe I am expecting too much out of this player. All I know is the 983H is the best player for standard DVDs.

By the way, is the 983H a good transport for 2-channel audio? Does anyone use an outboard DAC like a Benchmark DAC1 or Paradisea Havana on the 983H for music listening? I just noticed that this machine can play SACD. Does it make a good standalone SACD player and able to compete with something like the Marantz SA8001 or something higher up like the SA11-S1? Maybe I am expecting too much out of this player. All I know is the 983H is the best player for standard DVDs.

As a digital transport it is as good as anything out there. For analog outs, it's as good as players costing much more. Kinds of depends on where you are in the audiophile vs normal person continuum.

Final question. A stupid question and hopefully all the experts here can bear with me.

Will I get "VRS by Anchor Bay" with the 983H using this DVI>RCA Component adapter hooked up to the DVI port of the projector? http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I reckon 99% it won't work but still hoping it would since I can't run another HDMI cable above the ceiling due to insufficient space in the conduit and difficulty in installation. If another HDMI>DVI cable is required, the cable will need to be run just beneath the ceiling and along the walls, and that would be very ugly.

Thanks in advance.

Final question. A stupid question and hopefully all the experts here can bear with me.

Will I get "VRS by Anchor Bay" with the 983H using this DVI>RCA Component adapter hooked up to the DVI port of the projector? http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I reckon 99% it won't work but still hoping it would since I can't run another HDMI cable above the ceiling due to insufficient space in the conduit and difficulty in installation. If another HDMI>DVI cable is required, the cable will need to be run just beneath the ceiling and along the walls, and that would be very ugly.

Thanks in advance.

Your link doesn't work.
However, unless that item is an HDFury, it won't work.
An HDFury adapter is going to run you about $150.
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Sorry about the link. http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041901&p_id=2398&seq=1&format=2

Guess this won't work at about 6 bucks a piece.

Just went into this website http://www.curtpalme.com/Products.shtm#Converters and not too sure which piece would suit my application in connecting the Oppo 983H to the DVI port of my projector using component cables. Purpose is to attain the VRS Anchor Bay quality. Any direction would be most appreciated.

No ryder, that won't work. The DVI portion of the adapter is DVI-I, and for it to work with HDMI, it needs to be DVI-D. As I said, the only thing that will offer that, is something like an HDFury.

I don't see anything from that link that would do what you need.
THIS (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011402&p_id=5035&seq=1&format=2) is what you need.

Thanks a lot for the help Smarty-Pants. I noticed the HDFury2 doesn't have DVI. That means this piece would be connected at the 983H interface whereby a HDMI cable from the HDMI output of the 983H will connect to the HDMI input of the HDFury2. Then the component cable from the projector will connect to the component video output of the HDFury2. I hope my understanding is correct.

I need to think through it if I should get this HDFury as I didn't expect to spend this much for an adapter for my obsolete projector. Thanks again.

Thanks a lot for the help Smarty-Pants. I noticed the HDFury2 doesn't have DVI. That means this piece would be connected at the 983H interface whereby a HDMI cable from the HDMI output of the 983H will connect to the HDMI input of the HDFury2. Then the component cable from the projector will connect to the component video output of the HDFury2. I hope my understanding is correct.


Correct.

BTW, what is the make and model # of your projector?

My projector is a Hitachi PJ-TX100.

I just checked out the pictures of the HDFury2 in the Monoprice website and was little confused as I cannot seem to locate any component video outputs(green, blue and red RCA connections) on the unit. Are there any component video connections on the HDFury2?

http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1266303573.jpg
This picture seems to show HDMI at the bottom

http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1266303599.jpg
This picture seems to show computer connection at the top. My projector has this input. If I fix the HDFury2 on my projector using this connection and connect the component cables on the other side of the HDFury2, will I get VRS Anchor Bay from the Oppo 983H?

http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1266303649.jpg
Side view of the HDFury2 that doesn't show any connections

http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1266304315.jpg
Complete package of HDFury2

http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1266303890.jpg
Not too sure what are these cables for and whether they are included in the HDFury2 package as the picture above does not show these cables



I am confused as to which interface should I connect the HDFury2, the 983H's interface or the projector's interface. Thanks.

The back panel of my projector.

http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1266305018.jpg

It can get confusing as you already know.
You will need to use an adapter of some sort, and you might have to use a booster too, since you need to hook the Fury up at the player and not the projector.
I think those two adapters do come with the package when purchased, but you should inquire with Monoprice to be sure.

I don't know if there are any threads dedicated to the HDFury2 here on AVS, but if so it would be wise to go there and ask more questions, as it's now pretty much beyond the realm of this thread... and since the hook-up can get a little "hairy", I don't want to give you the wrong info/advice, and would rather you get it from others who use it everyday.

Also read through the KNOWLEDGE BASE (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011402&p_id=5035&seq=1&format=6#faq) page for the HDFury at Monoprice to get a better understanding of what you are dealing with.
There's some good info there.
You can also send questions to Monoprice and they are usually good at giving answers.

...I can't run another HDMI cable above the ceiling due to insufficient space in the conduit and difficulty in installation. If another HDMI>DVI cable is required, the cable will need to be run just beneath the ceiling and along the walls, and that would be very ugly. If your projector is HDCP compliant, and you already have a DVI or HDMI cable in the ceiling, why not use one of these?

HDMI to DVI Adapter: (http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Adapter-Plated-Connector-Female/dp/B000FUVNX8)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31gIU1FvVHL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

HDMI-F to DVI-M Adapter: (http://www.amazon.com/Eforcity-HDMI-F-DVI-M-Adaptor-Contacts/dp/B000E8X5Z0/ref=pd_cp_e_1)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bPtwV17yL._AA280_.jpg


If you don't have one in the ceiling, could you replace the component cables with HDMI?

Gary

Thanks for the response.

Just to ensure I don't screw up, I reckon the appropriate way is to purchase a 30' HDMI cable and get a HDMI>DVI adapter such as this http://cgi.ebay.com/DVI-Male-To-HDMI-Female-Adapter-Converter-for-HDTV-LCD_W0QQitemZ170446364515QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain _0?hash=item27af651f63 to connect the cable to the DVI port of the projector. I am not sure what is HDCP though.

You can also install the cracked 983 firmware which removes the HDCP from the HDMI signal.
I use it with my Sanyo Z2 via HDMI -> DVI. Careful with the length of the HDMI cable though. I had to take a cable with a signal booster (15m) because the signal was degraded. I believe that HDMI->HDMI takes better longer cable...

Thanks Smarty-Pants. You have been of great help and I truly appreciate it. I will do more research on the HDFury2 before deciding whether it would fit my needs.

If your projector is HDCP compliant, and you already have a DVI or HDMI cable in the ceiling, why not use one of these?

How I wish I already had a DVI or HDMI cable installed in the ceiling. The guys just installed component cables in the ceiling and through concealed walls and did not advise on including a HDMI or DVI cable in the mix. That was more than 4 years ago when HDMI and HD wasn't the "thing" yet.



If you don't have one in the ceiling, could you replace the component cables with HDMI?

I could. Just need to figure out a way. If too troublesome and involves too much work, I might just get the HDFury2. Will study both options and see which is more viable.

Thanks for the thoughts.

I could. Just need to figure out a way. If too troublesome and involves too much work, I might just get the HDFury2. Will study both options and see which is more viable.

Thanks for the thoughts.

Unless you plan to move or in some other way change the situation, it's also true that eventually you will need to have HDMI connects. That PJ won't last forever even if you want it to. Might as well figure it out now and be done with it.

You can also install the cracked 983 firmware which removes the HDCP from the HDMI signal.
I use it with my Sanyo Z2 via HDMI -> DVI. Careful with the length of the HDMI cable though. I had to take a cable with a signal booster (15m) because the signal was degraded. I believe that HDMI->HDMI takes better longer cable...

What cracked 983 firmware? Don't you mean the 970 or the 980?

I actually successfully used the 970FMT.exe patch to patch the latest official 983 firmware from Oppo. It worked.
See here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-832356-p-2.html) for more info.
I remember there was a web page with this firmware but I can't find it easily. Do some googling if interested.

I actually successfully used the 970FMT.exe patch to patch the latest official 983 firmware from Oppo. It worked.
See (posted URL) for more info.
I remember there was a web page with this firmware but I can't find it easily. Do some googling if interested.

Pardon my ignorance, but I'm missing something here. I own a 983 and use HDMI connections exclusively. What exactly is the advantage of using hacked firmware in order to remove HDCP from the HDMI signal? For better clarity? For backups? Any middle-school kid or older can make DVD backups on a PC so I fail to see the point.

As I mentioned, I'm sure I overlooked some advantage here...:)

I'm in the same boat as Ryder_78 in that the house I'm renting only had component installed to the landlord's Optoma H31 projector.
I believe that I can need to use something like the HDFury 2 to remove the HDCP compliance so my 983 will do upconversion via the hdmi to component converter included in the package. Even though the Optoma H31 is only 480p I have read that feeding it 720p can improve the image slightly.
Alternatively, if I hack the firmware with the tool described above will I still need the HDFury 2 or could I just use an HDMI to component adapter?....

Pardon my ignorance, but I'm missing something here. I own a 983 and use HDMI connections exclusively. What exactly is the advantage of using hacked firmware in order to remove HDCP from the HDMI signal? For better clarity? For backups? Any middle-school kid or older can make DVD backups on a PC so I fail to see the point.

As I mentioned, I'm sure I overlooked some advantage here...:)

Hello Guys,
The sole and only advantage to patch the 938 firmware is to remove the HDCP so it would work with non-HDCP devices like older TVs/Projectors; the Sanyo PLV-Z2 in my case.

PS: I found the page I was mentioning: http://www.lament.us/oppo/
(However, I remember you can find the version 1.3 of this software).

IIRC it only works on disc which do not have any CSS-encrypted. Commercial discs will still not work on a non-HDCP compliant display.

IIRC it only works on disc which do not have any CSS-encrypted. Commercial discs will still not work on a non-HDCP compliant display.
Thanks Neuromancer. So I take it then that the HDFury2 in fact will permit me to do this as it recodes the HDMI signal?

Hi all,

Just an update for those interested.

The latest firmware update for the Yamaha v1.11 seems to really improve the HDMI compatibility with the 983.

I've done about a weeks testing with firmware v1.11 and so far it has either worked no problems or been able to get 1080p back easily.

When I first updated 1080p worked straight away (or after I turned HDMI output back on, on the 3900 :rolleyes: ) it ran fine for several days turning equipment off and on and changing resolutions on the 983.
Now after a few days I turned the 983 and 3900 both on, changed the 3900 from the DTV input it was on to DVD and no sync with the 983, I tried turning 983 off/on no luck turned RX-V3900 off/on still no luck, at this point I'm thinking damn as this is the same behaviour v1.10 showed.

Now this is how I got 1080p back from the 983.

I turned the 983 off, selected a different input(audio only) on the 3900 and waited for the Yamaha background to come up, then switched back to DVD input for the 983 and made sure it still had the Yamaha background screen on this input (when 1080p sync is lost from the 983 no background screen is shown, only blue screen) turned the 983 back on and it synced up at 1080p no problems.

I've only had this happen twice and the above worked to get sync back at 1080p both times.

1 other difference I noticed with firmware v1.11 over v1.10 is that when you go through the resolutions on the 983 1080p takes the same amount of time to sync as other resolutions with v1.11, with v1.10 1080p would take around 4-5 secs longer to sync up when it was working.

Hopefully others with this combination are getting better results with firmware v1.11 aswell.

Cheers!

I have been unsuccessful so far in getting 1080p from the Oppo 983 to work with the Yamaha 3900 with the latest Yamaha software update (1.11). I will experiment some more, but in my first 45 minutes of trying, I didn't discover the correct magic spell or combination of settings.

I have been unsuccessful so far in getting 1080p from the Oppo 983 to work with the Yamaha 3900 with the latest Yamaha software update (1.11). I will experiment some more, but in my first 45 minutes of trying, I didn't discover the correct magic spell or combination of settings.

I think Oppo may have a V3900 in house for testing, ask them what to do.

Hi everyone, many people here seem to be experts on this player; I just bought an used one I haven't even got it yet, but I wanted to anticipate. Could someone tell me which is the best firmware version available, I've read some of the thread and I don't need a hacked version because I won't be needing the removal of HDCP; but should I install a Beta version?, or the latest final version available?, what is best?.
Thank you.

Hi everyone, many people here seem to be experts on this player; I just bought an used one I haven't even got it yet, but I wanted to anticipate. Could someone tell me which is the best firmware version available, I've read some of the thread and I don't need a hacked version because I won't be needing the removal of HDCP; but should I install a Beta version?, or the latest final version available?, what is best?.
Thank you.

A description of each firmware is in post #1 of this thread towards the end(after the reviews).
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13258426#post13258426

I'd recommend the latest official release at a minimum. Read the description of what the beta does in post #1 and if you need the features supported then go for it.

Thank you moxie1617; yes I would update it to the latest official release, but what I want to know is if someone has had problems with the latest beta release? The only feature described on those version that I would definitely use is the PAL 4:3 DVD Aspect Ratio Detection, but if no problems have been reported I could install the latest beta version.
Thank you for the help.

Thank you moxie1617; yes I would update it to the latest official release, but what I want to know is if someone has had problems with the latest beta release? The only feature described on those version that I would definitely use is the PAL 4:3 DVD Aspect Ratio Detection, but if no problems have been reported I could install the latest beta version.
Thank you for the help.

One of the nice features of the Oppo's is that if the beta(or any version) causes you problems you can always install an earlier release. So if you decide to install the beta and don't like it you can go back and install another version of the firmware.

OK moxie1617, thank you. Just got the player and installed the latest beta firmware, will test if for a while wee how it performs.
Cheers.

I have been unsuccessful so far in getting 1080p from the Oppo 983 to work with the Yamaha 3900 with the latest Yamaha software update (1.11). I will experiment some more, but in my first 45 minutes of trying, I didn't discover the correct magic spell or combination of settings.

So far the few times I've lost sync at 1080p, using the method in my post above fixed the problem every time.

FYI I am using the final release European firmware
BES983-14-1122 (http://www.opposhop.com/en/help/58/oppo_dv_983h_firmware_release) Don't know if this would make any difference.

Cheers

Hi all
Ive got an OPPO, but....
I archive my original DVDs to Verbatim copies to preserve my originals...especially if kids thrash the DVDs.
My OPPO does not play 25% of my compressed DVDs well.

I make a copy of the original to HardDrive, then burn a copy, then the OPPO processes the copy and presents an excellent Picture.....
A WD Media player, or CinemaTube takes the HDrive copy and plays it directly. The question is....
Which produces a better quality image... is the HardDrive copy a cleaner better image than the Oppo processing ?
Have any of you any experience with Media Players ?

Hi all
Ive got an OPPO, but....
I archive my original DVDs to Verbatim copies to preserve my originals...especially if kids thrash the DVDs.
My OPPO does not play 25% of my compressed DVDs well.

I make a copy of the original to HardDrive, then burn a copy, then the OPPO processes the copy and presents an excellent Picture.....
A WD Media player, or CinemaTube takes the HDrive copy and plays it directly. The question is....
Which produces a better quality image... is the HardDrive copy a cleaner better image than the Oppo processing ?
Have any of you any experience with Media Players ?The OPPO should be better than any media player when presented with the SAME data, and viewed on the SAME display. If the HDD version is uncompressed and the DVD copy is compressed, then obviously that is a disadvantage. What do you mean by, "My OPPO does not play 25% of my compressed DVDs well"?

Gary

Rohr's Axiom: If there is no solution, there is no problem.

Well, I doubt there is a solution to this problem, but here goes anyway. I recently bought a new, sealed copy of the Stones' More Hot Rocks hybrid SACD. This is a two disc set, and both play wonderfully on my 983 as CDs. Disc 2 plays as a multichannel SACD as well (although the OSD flags it as Stereo). However, Disc 1 only plays the center channel in SACD mode (also flagged as Stereo). Any ideas?

In response to GSB above

MY Oppo does not play 25% of my archived DVDs.
It skips chapters.
Ive had some advice to record at a slower rate and switch to DVDdecrypter instead of DVDFab which I am using.

Perhaps that will help.

In response to GSB above

MY Oppo does not play 25% of my archived DVDs.
It skips chapters.
Ive had some advice to record at a slower rate and switch to DVDdecrypter instead of DVDFab which I am using.


This should work for you:

1.) Make sure that you are using high quality blank media. I use Verbatim DVD+R in both single and dual layer types. In over 10 years I've had less than 5 coasters...They all just work and they all maintain the integrity of the burned data. NewEgg usually has a cakebox of 100 of the single layer discs for less than $20.00. Yes, you can buy cheaper, but this is the classic case of you will get what you pay for....;)

2.) Most of my burns are laserdisc conversions, so I rarely have to deal with encryption. For making back-ups of a DVD you purchase, however, DVDFab is very good stuff for both ripping and compressing. The best thing to burn the back-up with is ImgBurn:

http://www.imgburn.com/

It's a freebie and will burn a disc folder or an ISO file. It is dead-reliable and, if you burn a dual-layer disc, it will help you to properly place the layer break. I have never had a bad burn with it.

3.) Set up Imgburn to use a maximum speed of 8X for single layer burns.

I honestly believe both of my OPPO's, the 983 and the 971, would play a pizza if I burned it with Imgburn at 8X...:D

Hope this helps you out!

-Toonces

HDCP is High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection. It is what limits dvds to 480p via component output to supposedly supress pirating of movies.

You can also install the cracked 983 firmware which removes the HDCP from the HDMI signal.

Hi; People:
There's a while since i am not checking this forum but this combination of opinions let me thinking on what kind of image I am watching in my 46" LCD over HDMI. Am I getting only 480p or a scaled-1080p?.
Smarty-Pants circunscribes the issue to component output, so why do you need a crack for removing the HDCP over HDMI?
I am confused.

Hi; People:
There's a while since i am not checking this forum but this combination of opinions let me thinking on what kind of image I am watching in my 46" LCD over HDMI. Am I getting only 480p or a scaled-1080p?.
Smarty-Pants circunscribes the issue to component output, so why do you need a crack for removing the HDCP over HDMI?
I am confused.
Hello Mantas,
First, you can see the signal that your TV gets by going into the info panel while playing from the source you want to check. It will be written somewhere, something like 576p50 or 1080p60.

For the cracked firmware, I needed it because my old projector (Sanyo Z2) was not fully HDCP compliant, therefore couldn't sync with the 983. Once the HDCP removed, it worked like a charm.

Turned my Oppo 983H on last night but it seems to have developed a problem. Apart from the power button none of the buttons on the front seem to be working. Also the front display seems to have gone bonkers too. All it displays at present is all of the sound symbols at the right hand side. No "play" or "opening". No "Oppo" when you turn it on, no counter when a disc is playing. DVDs play fine and everything works with the remote but I'm concerned that something has gone seriously wrong. I've unplugged it for hours and tried reloading the firmware via USB but nothing has changed.:(

Anyone have any ideas?

Turned my Oppo 983H on last night but it seems to have developed a problem. Apart from the power button none of the buttons on the front seem to be working. Also the front display seems to have gone bonkers too. All it displays at present is all of the sound symbols at the right hand side. No "play" or "opening". No "Oppo" when you turn it on, no counter when a disc is playing. DVDs play fine and everything works with the remote but I'm concerned that something has gone seriously wrong. I've unplugged it for hours and tried reloading the firmware via USB but nothing has changed.:(

Anyone have any ideas?

Don't forget that OPPO has excellent customer service and support.
You should call or email them about your problem, and I'm sure they will do whatever they can to help you.
It certainly sounds like the player is need of repair though.

Turned my Oppo 983H on last night but it seems to have developed a problem. Apart from the power button none of the buttons on the front seem to be working. Also the front display seems to have gone bonkers too. All it displays at present is all of the sound symbols at the right hand side. No "play" or "opening". No "Oppo" when you turn it on, no counter when a disc is playing. DVDs play fine and everything works with the remote but I'm concerned that something has gone seriously wrong. I've unplugged it for hours and tried reloading the firmware via USB but nothing has changed.:(

Anyone have any ideas?

Sounds like a front panel failure. It's rare but it happens. Assuming it's out of warranty, Oppo will have it up and running in short time with a flat repair fee, usually around $60 plus shipping, but call them and get a quote and RMA.

All of the display icons have gone out now. The eject button and power button are both lit but only the power button works. I'll e-mail Oppo. I'm in the UK and imported the player directly from Oppo in the US so it'll cost me a fair bit to get it repaired. Still have my 981 as backup in the mean time though.

All of the display icons have gone out now. The eject button and power button are both lit but only the power button works. I'll e-mail Oppo. I'm in the UK and imported the player directly from Oppo in the US so it'll cost me a fair bit to get it repaired. Still have my 981 as backup in the mean time though.

I don't know how technically challenged you are, but if they feel it's a simple front panel failure, consider doing the swap yourself if they're willing to ship one to you.

I don't know how technically challenged you are, but if they feel it's a simple front panel failure, consider doing the swap yourself if they're willing to ship one to you.

I'm fairly handy but if there were to be any soldering involved then I would probably be screwed;)

I have e-mailed Oppo to see if they can help with my 983s front panel issue.

Thanks for the help:)

Hi; I have my Oppo 983 connected throgh HDMI directly to my receiver... During a movie it sometimes skips a second of sound, not picture, whe watching the movie it's like sound transfer stops for a second but picture continues and it's not the layer change because it does it a few times per movie, anyone else has this issue? Maybe an incorrect setting?
Thanks.

How's the audio settings? Bitstream or LPCM??

Hi Avliner, thank you! It's in HDMI Audio: Auto; there's no bit-stream option, only Auto, LPCM or off. It's very strange, at first I thought the laser was dirty so I cleaned it, then I thought maybe the cable and I changed it, maybe the input of the receiver, it wasn't that either, it has to be the player but I don't understand why it would do that, it skips like a second of sound on random parts of a movie, you can rewind it right after it does it and it doesn't do it on the same moment. My only other option is turn off HDMI audio and connect an independent fiber optic cable for audio, but I don't want to do that because I have it connected to an HDMI switch with other media players, and it's not the switch either because nothing else connected to it does this!, What do you think? Maybe with another firmware, I have the last stable version.
Thank you.

Hi Avliner, thank you! It's in HDMI Audio: Auto; there's no bit-stream option, only Auto, LPCM or off. It's very strange, at first I thought the laser was dirty so I cleaned it, then I thought maybe the cable and I changed it, maybe the input of the receiver, it wasn't that either, it has to be the player but I don't understand why it would do that, it skips like a second of sound on random parts of a movie, you can rewind it right after it does it and it doesn't do it on the same moment. My only other option is turn off HDMI audio and connect an independent fiber optic cable for audio, but I don't want to do that because I have it connected to an HDMI switch with other media players, and it's not the switch either because nothing else connected to it does this!, What do you think? Maybe with another firmware, I have the last stable version.
Thank you.

You're experiencing HDMI handshakes, most likely. Try connecting direct to your TV and see if it still happens.

Hi rdgrimes, thank you, I'll try that and get back to you, but is there any way to fix this handshakes?...

Hi rdgrimes, thank you, I'll try that and get back to you, but is there any way to fix this handshakes?...

Ha, that's the question. HDCP mandates frequent handshakes, something like every 4 min. You don't specify what AVR is in the chain, but that's likely where the problem is.

Using the optical connect costs you nothing in terms of quality.

I've an Onkyo TX-NR807; but the dropout doesn't happen every 4 minutes, it's very random and maybe 3 - 5 times in a 2 hour movie, I've been reading through the thread, apparently there's a modified version of the firmware which disables HDCP, do you think that will fix it?, if not I can always connect it trough optical, but I'd have to skip my HDMI switch and use another input on the receiver, etc. If there's no other way I'll do it...
Thank you for all the help, what do you think?

I've an Onkyo TX-NR807; but the dropout doesn't happen every 4 minutes, it's very random and maybe 3 - 5 times in a 2 hour movie, I've been reading through the thread, apparently there's a modified version of the firmware which disables HDCP, do you think that will fix it?, if not I can always connect it trough optical, but I'd have to skip my HDMI switch and use another input on the receiver, etc. If there's no other way I'll do it...
Thank you for all the help, what do you think?

The HDCP handshakes are frequent and regular but they won't always cause the dropout. Keep in mind that ALL components in the chain are doing HDCP. See if there's a new FW for the Onkyo and/or TV. You could also search the Onkyo thread for similar issues.

... It's in HDMI Audio: Auto; there's no bit-stream option, only Auto, LPCM or off...

In order to troubleshoot this handshaking issue, why don't you try switching from AUTO to LPCM in the player and tell us what the end results are?

I'm having a HDCP problem between the oppo and a Samsung TV monitor : http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1242710.


Could the 970 HDCP hack (removing the HDCP handshake) fix the problem?

Can it possible damage the player?

New kid posting, long-time lurker:)

I'm having a bit of a problem playing Sony DVD-R discs on my DV-983H. I almost always use DVD+Rs with DVD-ROM bitsetting, but bought a batch of these DVD-Rs on the cheap. I went through 3 of them, burning a few 24/96 vinyl rips as DVD-audio, all the information exists only in the AUDIO_TS directory, though my program also produces an empty VIDEO_TS as well for general compatibility. I have a number of DVD-As, my own burns as well as commercially manufactured ones, and never experienced this problem before.

The Oppo goes into the "reading" mode, but just hangs there. I even had to turn it off and back on again to eject the disc. Oddly enough, it read the 3rd burned disc yesterday (not the first two), not today. I reburned the DVD-Audio to a DVD+ and it plays just fine on the Oppo. Oh, all three of these burned Sony DVD-R discs play on my PC via PowerDVD.

Anyone have a clue if it's just some strange incompatibility with these Sony DVD-Rs or is my precious 983H going south?:(

Thanks!

Unfortunately I have always used DVD+R/RW/DL media, so I can't comment on the likeliness of DVD-R media working with the DV-983H.

New kid posting, long-time lurker:)

I'm having a bit of a problem playing Sony DVD-R discs on my DV-983H. I almost always use DVD+Rs with DVD-ROM bitsetting, but bought a batch of these DVD-Rs on the cheap. I went through 3 of them, burning a few 24/96 vinyl rips as DVD-audio, all the information exists only in the AUDIO_TS directory, though my program also produces an empty VIDEO_TS as well for general compatibility. I have a number of DVD-As, my own burns as well as commercially manufactured ones, and never experienced this problem before.

The Oppo goes into the "reading" mode, but just hangs there. I even had to turn it off and back on again to eject the disc. Oddly enough, it read the 3rd burned disc yesterday (not the first two), not today. I reburned the DVD-Audio to a DVD+ and it plays just fine on the Oppo. Oh, all three of these burned Sony DVD-R discs play on my PC via PowerDVD.

Anyone have a clue if it's just some strange incompatibility with these Sony DVD-Rs or is my precious 983H going south?:(

Thanks!
Sounds like a burning problem, as in crappy burn quality. The format of the disc, ie: -R vs +R is not a factor.

Hi:

On the subject of -R media I've played many movies burned in that format from various brands, never encountered a problem, I've never played a DVD-Audio tough... but I'm with rdgrimes on this one, you should try burning them with ImageBurn..

My problem was resolved by disabling HDMI Audio and connecting it trough an optical cable, I've only watched one DVD but I had no audio dropouts whatsoever... I'll leave it at that for now, I don't want to mess with the firmware.

Thank you!