View Full Version : PlayStation 3 and the iPhone. Could it be? Would Sony see the benefit?


freestyle
03-07-08, 08:35 PM
After seeing the recent announcement (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/iphoneroadmap/) by Apple with regards to releasing SDKs for basically anyone to write native software applications for the iPhone, I immediately thought of one that I would *buy* in a second.

PS3 remote access (limited) via an iPhone app!

Before you tell me why "this will never happen," let me give the quick summary of what is coming on the iPhone side of things. (Or you can watch the presentation (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/iphoneroadmap/), but it is long)The news in a nutshell:
Apple is making the iPhone enterprise ready (business ready) by incorporating Microsoft Exchange support and a bunch of other stuff
Apple is releasing Developer kits to any developer that wants to write apps for the iphone
On stage were developers that were given just two weeks with the development kit
Apple showed a game (using the iPhone's 3-axis accelerometer). A space shooter where you touch the screen to fire and tilt the device to steer.
EA (Electronic Arts) show a quick port of 2 levels of "Spore" where you controled the creature by tilting and customized the creature by touch
Sega showed their Super Monkey Ball game where you roll around your monkey using the tilt features.
AOL and two other business companies showed AIM and then two very business-specific applications
Apple will add an "App Store" icon to all iPhones
Developers of content can publish for free if they do not charge for their applications
Developers can charge any price they want for their applications and Apple will give them 70% of the revenue
Sony could write and charge for an application that enables an iPhone to feature SOME of the PSP remote access capabilities. (And I think they should)

I can't see any technical reason why Sony couldn't tap into the iPhone and give users the ability to:
Remote access their PS3 (turn on/off)
Browse and buy from the PSN store and start downloads remotely
Play video from your PS3
Play audio/music from your PS3Leave the games out! That's what the PSP is for. ;)

The obvious question to ask is: Wouldn't this HURT Sony's sales of PSPs?

I honestly do think it would to any great extent. And I think it would probably help speed up adoption of the PS3 (over things like the 360 and even Apple's own AppleTV). I think the market for a PSP and for an iPhone is a very different market.

Ask yourself this: What percentage of people that have PSPs also have a mobile phone (cell phone)? And, What percentage of people who own an iPhone also own a PSP?

There are HUGE amounts of people (and soon more with iPhone's in business environments) that simply would never consider getting a PSP. They're NOT gamers... they don't want something that size to carry around. Never in a million years would they even consider a PSP.

However... When, perhaps, at a Best Buy, you have this "non-gamer" business exec that is looking to get maybe a Blu-Ray player... Or perhaps a media center hub for doing picture slideshows of his kids, playing videos and music... or (less likely) a game machine... Wouldn't it be a nice selling point if the salesman could say:"I see you have an iPhone. Did you know that you can use it from anywhere to see your media that is stored back at home?"
If you want a media hub, the AppleTV is great, but the PS3 does all that, and also talks to your iPhone, and also plays blu-rays
The 360 won't talk to your iPhone and it doesn't have Blu-ray (yet.. .lol)
A standalone Blu-ray player isn't a media hub.. .and can't be accessed remotely
You could show your slide shows anywhere... Watch videos... listen to all your music from home (the stuff you didn't put on your iPhone)If the only argument against this is that one might think it could hurt PSP sales, I'd really like to hear how those two devices directly compete. Let's face it, the PSP is for a younger audience that all use cell phones anyway... And people buy a PSP because they want GAMES... and good solid PlayStation quality games.

iPhone owners are a totally different group. Why shouldn't Sony give them a reason NOT to buy the AppleTV or the Xbox 360 by saying, "Here, buy this Sony software for your iPhone and have remote access to your PS3. If you don't yet have a PS3, then we've just given you ANOTHER great reason to get one."

serversurfer
03-07-08, 08:38 PM
Personally, I just want Sony to finagle a FairPlay license for the PS3 so I don't have to buy an AppleTV just to stream my iTMS stuff to the HT. :p

Kevuda
03-07-08, 09:03 PM
It sounds like a great idea that would be pretty simple to implement. It really would appeal to the more hardcore ps3 owners, as many techies already own an iphone, and would love to see some use with their ps3.

I agree the main drawback is that it would hurt psp sales, maybe not a lot, but there is no denying that it would affect them. One thing I can think of is that the psp does not likely appeal to the older demographic as much as to the younger crowd (whereas an iphone really appeals to anyone who has the $$ imho), so the two markets are still quite a bit different, although similar. I don't think this iphone remote connectivity would step on the psp's toes too much. And to be completely honest, the psp has some really great games so people who want it are going to buy it for the games anyways.

Definitely an interesting idea that would be awesome to see come to fruition.

Gruch
03-21-08, 05:40 PM
I was thinking about this last night. If there is/will be a way to plug the iphone into the PS3 and copy data to the phone. For example, copy my Tiger Woods '08 character to the phone and take it with me to another PS3, so on a Sunday afternoon, we can all be sitting at the bar using our own PS3 characters while drinking and gaming. http://bestsmileys.com/drinking/17.gif

The_Dark_Knight
03-22-08, 08:42 AM
After seeing the recent announcement (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/iphoneroadmap/) by Apple with regards to releasing SDKs for basically anyone to write native software applications for the iPhone, I immediately thought of one that I would *buy* in a second.

PS3 remote access (limited) via an iPhone app!

Before you tell me why "this will never happen," let me give the quick summary of what is coming on the iPhone side of things. (Or you can watch the presentation (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/iphoneroadmap/), but it is long)The news in a nutshell:
Apple is making the iPhone enterprise ready (business ready) by incorporating Microsoft Exchange support and a bunch of other stuff
Apple is releasing Developer kits to any developer that wants to write apps for the iphone
On stage were developers that were given just two weeks with the development kit
Apple showed a game (using the iPhone's 3-axis accelerometer). A space shooter where you touch the screen to fire and tilt the device to steer.
EA (Electronic Arts) show a quick port of 2 levels of "Spore" where you controled the creature by tilting and customized the creature by touch
Sega showed their Super Monkey Ball game where you roll around your monkey using the tilt features.
AOL and two other business companies showed AIM and then two very business-specific applications
Apple will add an "App Store" icon to all iPhones
Developers of content can publish for free if they do not charge for their applications
Developers can charge any price they want for their applications and Apple will give them 70% of the revenue
Sony could write and charge for an application that enables an iPhone to feature SOME of the PSP remote access capabilities. (And I think they should)

I can't see any technical reason why Sony couldn't tap into the iPhone and give users the ability to:
Remote access their PS3 (turn on/off)
Browse and buy from the PSN store and start downloads remotely
Play video from your PS3
Play audio/music from your PS3Leave the games out! That's what the PSP is for. ;)

The obvious question to ask is: Wouldn't this HURT Sony's sales of PSPs?

I honestly do think it would to any great extent. And I think it would probably help speed up adoption of the PS3 (over things like the 360 and even Apple's own AppleTV). I think the market for a PSP and for an iPhone is a very different market.

Ask yourself this: What percentage of people that have PSPs also have a mobile phone (cell phone)? And, What percentage of people who own an iPhone also own a PSP?

There are HUGE amounts of people (and soon more with iPhone's in business environments) that simply would never consider getting a PSP. They're NOT gamers... they don't want something that size to carry around. Never in a million years would they even consider a PSP.

However... When, perhaps, at a Best Buy, you have this "non-gamer" business exec that is looking to get maybe a Blu-Ray player... Or perhaps a media center hub for doing picture slideshows of his kids, playing videos and music... or (less likely) a game machine... Wouldn't it be a nice selling point if the salesman could say:"I see you have an iPhone. Did you know that you can use it from anywhere to see your media that is stored back at home?"
If you want a media hub, the AppleTV is great, but the PS3 does all that, and also talks to your iPhone, and also plays blu-rays
The 360 won't talk to your iPhone and it doesn't have Blu-ray (yet.. .lol)
A standalone Blu-ray player isn't a media hub.. .and can't be accessed remotely
You could show your slide shows anywhere... Watch videos... listen to all your music from home (the stuff you didn't put on your iPhone)If the only argument against this is that one might think it could hurt PSP sales, I'd really like to hear how those two devices directly compete. Let's face it, the PSP is for a younger audience that all use cell phones anyway... And people buy a PSP because they want GAMES... and good solid PlayStation quality games.

iPhone owners are a totally different group. Why shouldn't Sony give them a reason NOT to buy the AppleTV or the Xbox 360 by saying, "Here, buy this Sony software for your iPhone and have remote access to your PS3. If you don't yet have a PS3, then we've just given you ANOTHER great reason to get one."

Why would they buy a PS3 when they could do the same thing with their MAC's? Not sure what the draw would be for them.

I tihnk the Sony Erickson phones would probably get that functionality before Iphone ever would.

The PS3 could support more devices than just Iphone. I have a Network Printer I wish it could recognize.

freestyle
03-22-08, 08:17 PM
Why would they buy a PS3 when they could do the same thing with their MAC's? Not sure what the draw would be for them.

I tihnk the Sony Erickson phones would probably get that functionality before Iphone ever would.

The PS3 could support more devices than just Iphone. I have a Network Printer I wish it could recognize.
Most macs aren't hooked up to your HDTV... Very few Macs have even a third party blu-ray player... Macs don't play PS3 games...

I'm not sure I get your question... I'm saying that if Sony writes a software app that allows the iPhone to use some remote-access functions with the PS3, then Sony may earn some sales of the PS3s over the AppleTV.

I don't see a reason why Sony would not write this app for the iPhone (and their own Sony/Erickson phones too!... Obviously it could be much more intuitive and pretty on the iPhone).

I'd buy that software from Sony.

Lil. Lucas
03-22-08, 10:00 PM
Lets not forget Sony makes their own phones, dont see it happening..

freestyle
03-22-08, 11:36 PM
Lets not forget Sony makes their own phones, dont see it happening..

But this is about selling more PS3s.