View Full Version : HDfury? worth the high price?
crabbydaddy2 03-07-08, 08:55 PM so i recently purchased a HUGE sony 1251Q projector and i really cant hook any thing into it at the moment.
alot of people on these forums say the HDfury is a good way to hook inputs into the projector.
Is the HDfury worth the high price...
if i didn't like could i get rid of it for the same price i paid?
Is it relieble and will it have my sony ps3 in hd?
Fellenz 03-07-08, 09:02 PM I don't own a HD-fury as everything I do is RGBHV from my HTPC into my G70.
However many people that have the fury seem to think it is worth the price. It really isn't that expensive when you compare it to the other options like the moome card.
IMO if you need to get a HDMI source into your 1251 the HD-fury is the way to go.
Erik
dropzone7 03-07-08, 10:34 PM Not really that expensive considering what it does. I have one and love it. You might not recover your whole investment but then again, if you use it successfully for like a year then it was money well spent.
RalphArch 03-07-08, 11:00 PM Of course you could get a Moome external box instead - and switch two HDMIs (I switch a PS3 and DVI out of computer) and one component (I use it for HD STB) and get a gamma boost - but that is more money than the HDFury. I suppose worth it is relative and the Moome was well worth it to me.
nashou66 03-07-08, 11:22 PM Is the HDfury worth the high price...
High? that is the cheapest way to hook things up right now to a crt. the moome boxes and input cards are much better, then going to transcoders, then Video Processors.
Athanasios
Oliver Klohs 03-08-08, 03:55 AM If you think the HDFury has a high price you have chosen the wrong hobby :D
Seriously: It is as cheap as they come and it is a 1080p capable D/A converter that let's you handle 1080i and 1080p HD sources in very good quality so go for it !
alan halvorson 03-08-08, 10:05 AM so i recently purchased a HUGE sony 1251Q projector and i really cant hook any thing into it at the moment.
Yeah, we get it - you're in the CRT Forum where other members are likely to own a crt, many of which are even larger than the 1251Q.
draganm 03-08-08, 12:51 PM If you think the HDFury has a high price you have chosen the wrong hobby :D no kidding, it's a sad day on the CRTforum when our nwest memebers think spending $200. to get a huge, high-quality image is a big expense. I remember buying my very first 27" television in 1992 for $600.
BTW, OP if you really want to cheap out and JUST play up-scaled DVD movies with no transcoder (and no blue ray) I think you can get the Helios 4000 DVD player for $120. brand new. IT outputs an RGB signal through the VGA port. You will still need a $20. cable like this one
ThomasW 03-08-08, 12:54 PM I have a HDFury myself, that component was probably the cheapest of all hometheater gadgets in my setup. Well worth its price !
Like draganm writes an upscaling DVD player will be cheap. I have been using a Momitsu V880N myself, with a built in videoprocessor and a DVI-I output that could be connected directly to RGBHV via a simple adapter. Worked great, but only for DVD or SD media files.
v1rtu0s1ty 03-08-08, 05:18 PM Hi crabbydaddy2,
I'm sure you will be very happy once you get HDfury like others and I did. I had the same feeling before. I've had it for more than 4 or 5 months now and watch on it like 20 to 22 hours a week. It never gave me any issues as in, zero issues.
Also last night, I changed my setup. I moved all the equipments away from my listening position. The HDFury was previously directly connected to the projector until last night. All my equipments are now near the projector screen. The HDFury is now directly connected to the Autopatch 1YDM. The distance from Autopatch device to the projector is 25 ft. The picture quality is the same. I didn't see any picture quality degradation nor softness.
With this Autopatch device, I will also be able to simultaneously feed my family room(110ft cable currently installed) CRT RPTV with any video source(signal should matched though :D ) hooked to it. And the best thing is that I got it for $36 on ebay. Make sure when you get one, it has the wideband boards like what I have. According to Autopatch support, the standard board will still work but there is a possibility of softening.
Going back to HDFury, you will love it!!! ;) Go for it!!! Let us know!
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7086/htgearnf8.jpg
CRTMIKE 03-08-08, 10:18 PM You can get HD Fury for $110 from hardstore.hk.com they post and takes 5 days to recieve
I don't see anything on that site? Any direct links to the product on hardstore.hk.com, all I see is a parked site... of course my mandarin is a little ..non exisitent :) .
v1rtu0s1ty 03-09-08, 10:07 PM You can get HD Fury for $110 from hardstore.hk.com they post and takes 5 days to recieve
Does the $110 include the breakout cable and shipping? If so, that's a great deal.
Shoujiki 03-09-08, 10:09 PM Heck, i bought a US$500 internal Moome card with all the gamma and remote stuff and I still think that was excellent value!! Considering what it does and the picture quality you get! $200 on a peice of equipment that will give you the latest and greatest HD input technology is a very small price to pay. My whole HDMI video chain has cost me near $2000 (which includes a IScan video processor to get the right resolution) and its absolutely awesome.
So if you think $200 (which is a 10th of what i paid, and probobly a 20-30th of what others on here paid) then your in the wrong hobby!!
PS Theres always SVIDEO? :)
flyingvee 03-09-08, 10:12 PM PS Theres always SVIDEO? :)
heck yes! :p That's how I hooked up my first Barco...who needs a stinkin' line doubler anyway?
jkruger 03-09-08, 11:29 PM I have to admit I was hesitant at first to buy one.
I was new(still am) to all this and it seemed like a lot of money to me at the time.
Looking back, it has been the best investment I have made for my HT to date. It's an excellent value. I bought mine right here:
http://www.curtpalme.com/HDFury.shtm
I feel that I would prefer to spend my money with people in the industry that support us and our hobby (addiction)
v1rtu0s1ty 03-10-08, 02:38 AM feel that I would prefer to spend my money with people in the industry that support us and our hobby (addiction)
YES, we have the same thinking! I told myself that I should buy it from Curt Palme! ;)
CRTMIKE 03-10-08, 03:54 AM Sorrry Guys its just hardstore.hk current price is $103USD
jkruger 03-10-08, 09:52 AM I don't see the power supply listed in the hardstore ad. I suppose they have it for sale, I didn't look very hard for it. It's a nice thing to have, especially if you run into long hdmi cable/connector issues.
Curt Palme 03-10-08, 10:00 AM Having played with a number of installs now, the power supply is mandatory in my opinion. Lots of sources don't have the oompf to drive the Fury properly at 1080p and the pix blanks out. Only one install worked at 1080p without the power supply.
Don't cheap out, the extra couplea bucks is well worth the saved frustration down the road.
dropzone7 03-10-08, 10:54 AM I have to admit I was hesitant at first to buy one.
I was new(still am) to all this and it seemed like a lot of money to me at the time.
Looking back, it has been the best investment I have made for my HT to date. It's an excellent value. I bought mine right here:
http://www.curtpalme.com/HDFury.shtm
I feel that I would prefer to spend my money with people in the industry that support us and our hobby (addiction)
Well put. It's the least we can do for all of the free tech support that Curt and so many here give. I agree that the HD Fury and in my case the RTC2200 Crescendo transcoder have given me the best bang for the buck improvement in my setup. Both items are available through Curt's site and you can ask questions right on his forum as there are dedicated threads for both products.
draganm 03-10-08, 12:54 PM Well put. It's the least we can do for all of the free tech support that Curt and so many here give. I agree that the HD Fury and in my case the RTC2200 Crescendo transcoder have given me the best bang for the buck improvement in my setup. IMO, IF you have a Sony or Marquee projector then I think the Moome internal HDMI card is a better choice for about the same money ($435) as a Fury + RTC2200 ($389.)
jkruger 03-10-08, 01:18 PM I personally can't justify putting that much money into a brand specific device. The others can be used with other equipment as well as my sonys.;)
dropzone7 03-10-08, 01:47 PM IMO, IF you have a Sony or Marquee projector then I think the Moome internal HDMI card is a better choice for about the same money ($435) as a Fury + RTC2200 ($389.)
I agree if you have either of those projectors. I have an NEC though and the Moome card for the XG was just recently released. $450 that I can't really spend right now but if this choice had been available when I was buying the other stuff then I certainly would have gone that route. No regrets about the Fury and Kim's transcoder though. I could simplify my setup a lot with a Moome card but can't really justify the cost at this moment. Very tempting though. Also, the first batch has not even shipped and I would like to get impressions of some of the more seasoned NEC owners before buying myself.
draganm 03-10-08, 02:37 PM Also, the first batch has not even shipped and I would like to get impressions of some of the more seasoned NEC owners before buying myself.
I would probably do the same thing, being a BETA tester in't much fun unless your into that sort of stuff. Once it's de-bugged though I would switch and considering used Fury's sell easilly it won't cost you much. Yes the Fury is more versatile but from a performance POV there's really no comparison between the 2 devices.
v1rtu0s1ty 03-10-08, 02:58 PM If I didn't have a CRT RPTV with RGBHV inputs, for sure, I'll go the moome route as well.
dropzone7 03-10-08, 03:12 PM I would probably do the same thing, being a BETA tester in't much fun unless your into that sort of stuff. Once it's de-bugged though I would switch and considering used Fury's sell easilly it won't cost you much. Yes the Fury is more versatile but from a performance POV there's really no comparison between the 2 devices.
Not to get off on a tangent here but the only thing holding me back (besides the 450 clams) is my question regarding the gamma curve. Kim's box gets rave reviews for it's gamma and I have really enjoyed it. The convenience of a plug and play HDMI card for my XG is very tempting for sure but if the gamma in the Moome card does not match or better the RTC2200 then it will be a no go for me I think. Just have to wait and see I suppose.
v1rtu0s1ty 03-10-08, 04:00 PM Not to get off on a tangent here but the only thing holding me back (besides the 450 clams) is my question regarding the gamma curve. Kim's box gets rave reviews for it's gamma and I have really enjoyed it. The convenience of a plug and play HDMI card for my XG is very tempting for sure but if the gamma in the Moome card does not match or better the RTC2200 then it will be a no go for me I think. Just have to wait and see I suppose.
I'm really interested too in the RCT2200. Is there a knob to increase/decrease gamma setting? Can it do per channel gamma similar to nvidia-settings?
dropzone7 03-10-08, 04:25 PM I'm really interested too in the RCT2200. Is there a knob to increase/decrease gamma setting? Can it do per channel gamma similar to nvidia-settings?
It's just a little pot screw on the back of the box that you turn with a very small flat tip screwdriver. It's labeled as "BLK LVL" if I remember correctly. It's not software driven in any way, you just turn the screw and take note of the range from top to bottom. There are some points in the range where it clicks but I normally just keep turning until I notice a change in the picture and then adjust it for best black level without crushing. All of this is assuming that brightness and contrast are already set correctly. That is something that I still struggle with as I have no equipment to properly test anything. It's all by eye and AVIA or DVE with my setup.
Does the Fury output video or pc levels? or is that dependent on the source or what it thinks the HD fury is asking for.
geisemann 03-11-08, 01:51 PM Fury too expensive at $99.00??? I can order at this price but don't email me about that /.
From my testing the Fury works good for a cheap solution. My internal barco card that I make which is a much better picture is $500.00
You get what you pay for in the world of A/V and 99 bucks is not that much??
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