Edit: Updated with new problem

My A2-300 was jut delivered, but I'm having some problems.

I have an Onkyo 605 receiver and Dana 630 speakers.

As of now I feel like most of the sounds I would associate with bass are coming out of the speakers. For example, in call of duty 4 when I throw a grenade almost all of the sound from it comes out of the speakers and theres no low end. When I fire gunshots instead of getting specific bass "oomph" with each volley of bullets, I'm just getting a general bass in the background that doesn't really feel attached to the gun actually being fired. It's weird, and sounds pretty bad.

I have run audessy and it puts the subwoofer at -11 DB.

I do not have an SPL meter, but I guess its time to invest in one if it will fix this.

My settings are as follows:

Receiver Setting
1. Crossover at 80hz
2. LPF of LFE at 120hz

Subwoofer Settings
Level: At about 1 o clock postion
Low Pass Frequency: At 120hz. The dial goes from 120hz to 50hz
Phase: at about 3 0'clock. No idea what this does

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

You should connect the subwoofer directly to your reciever. Choose one RCA input and it should work fine.

Thanks

So I don't need an adapter or anything to allow the cables to plug into two RCA slots? I can just use one of the 4 RCA slots?

Well there are 4 choices:

Left In
Right In
Left Out
Right Out

Does it matter which I choose?

Left In.


Tim

Left In.


Tim

Thanks.

Just curious, any reason why left in?

Also would buying a Y adapter to plug it into both RCA slots give any advantage whatsoever? Or is there no point?

Any other general hook up tips?

Thanks

Sometimes using a splitter and connecting it to the subwoofer (into the in's) will help with turning on the sub amp at lower volumes if set on auto (at least that what it said in my old Hsu Sub manual).

My A2-300 was jut delivered, but I'm having some hook up problems.

I have an Onkyo 605 receiver and Dana 630 speakers.

In anticipation of the subwoofer I purchased a subwoofer able seen here:

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/subwoofer/index.htm

Now that the subwoofer has arrived I only see ways to connect cables in pairs of two, but my subwoofer cable only has one prong on each end.

This is what the back of my subwoofer looks like:

http://www.edesignaudio.com/gallery/273_large.jpg

My subwoofer cable fits into the smaller red/white inputs, but they are both in pairs of two and I only have one cable

I also see places to connect speaker wire. I thought everything was just connected to the Onkyo receiver? Do I have to connect the Dana's to the ED, and then connect the ED to the Onkyo or can I just run both to the receiver directly?

It did not come with any instructions either :(

If anyone can help me out I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

connect one end to the LFE in on the sub
the other end to the SUB PRE OUT on the receiver

I can't seem to get it to work.

Green light is on indicating it is getting power. I have the subwoofer cable plugged into the left in RCA slot. On my receiver it is plugged into "subwoofer out" which is indicated by a purple jack.

It won't work in the sound test for the receiver nor when I just play things.

Hmm

You probably have the speakers set to "Large" on the receiver, which then directs all output to the speakers, and none to the sub. Try "small" on the receiver for the speakers.
I've done that too, and was confused for a while also.

Or there is a subwoofer on-off setting on the receiver, make sure its on.
You probably have to dig a bit thru the Onkyo's settings to find that.

I'll just restate what everyone else has said - I have a similar AVR and sub....ON the A2-300: It should be the left in, you shouldn't need a splitter. Turn the level control up to about 50% (when you calibrate it should be 30%-40% or 9-10 O'clock). Turn the crossover all the way up on the subwoofer - I don't remember if there is a crossover bypass on the sub. The crossover on the sub will be something like 120hz or 150hz.

The Onkyo: the biggest mistake is plugging the sub into the wrong output. Ensure it is plugged into the sub pre-out - the one all by itself under Class 2 Wiring. The 605 probably does have everything set to full-band and sub-off. So, you'll have to change those speakers set to full band to a crossover of 80hz and set the subwoofer to ON. I think there is an LPF of LFE on the 605 - that should be set to 120hz on the Onkyo.

Again, all these settings are a default so to speak. Once you confirm everything is working, you can calibrate to fine tune. You don't need to use any of those speaker cable in/out. Those are pass through if needed.

Some helpful links:
AVS Onkyo 705 FAQ (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=935808) (helpful even for a 605)
ICIX Forum FAQ for eD subs (http://www.icixsound.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35982)

I'll just restate what everyone else has said - I have a similar AVR and sub....ON the A2-300: It should be the left in, you shouldn't need a splitter. Turn the level control up to about 50% (when you calibrate it should be 30%-40% or 9-10 O'clock). Turn the crossover all the way up on the subwoofer - I don't remember if there is a crossover bypass on the sub. The crossover on the sub will be something like 120hz or 150hz.

The Onkyo: the biggest mistake is plugging the sub into the wrong output. Ensure it is plugged into the sub pre-out - the one all by itself under Class 2 Wiring. The 605 probably does have everything set to full-band and sub-off. So, you'll have to change those speakers set to full band to a crossover of 80hz and set the subwoofer to ON. I think there is an LPF of LFE on the 605 - that should be set to 120hz on the Onkyo.

Again, all these settings are a default so to speak. Once you confirm everything is working, you can calibrate to fine tune. You don't need to use any of those speaker cable in/out. Those are pass through if needed.

Some helpful links:
AVS Onkyo 705 FAQ (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=935808) (helpful even for a 605)
ICIX Forum FAQ for eD subs (http://www.icixsound.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35982)

Thanks. I got everything to work, but I seem to be running into a new problem. The sub is definitely not working as intended.

As of now I feel like most of the sounds I would associate with bass are coming out of the speakers. For example, in call of duty 4 when I throw a grenade almost all of the sound from it comes out of the speakers and theres no low end. When I fire gunshots instead of getting specific bass "oomph" with each volley of bullets, I'm just getting a general bass in the background that doesn't really feel attached to the gun actually being fired. It's weird, and sounds pretty bad.

My settings are as follows:

Receiver Setting
1. Crossover at 80hz
2. LPF of LFE at 120hz

Subwoofer Settings
Level: At about 1 o clock postion
Low Pass Frequency: At 120hz. The dial goes from 120hz to 50hz
Phase: at about 3 0'clock. No idea what this does


Anyone have any ideas?

You probably have the speakers set to "Large" on the receiver, which then directs all output to the speakers, and none to the sub. Try "small" on the receiver for the speakers.
I've done that too, and was confused for a while also.

Like this guy said, you probably have your speakers set to "large". Make sure they are set to small.

Like this guy said, you probably have your speakers set to "large". Make sure they are set to small.

The onkyo doesn't have large and small. It has fullband or crossover, and I have it set to an 80hz crossover right now.

I've been experimenting a lot and can't figure this out at all :(

Have you tried running Audessey?

Thanks. I got everything to work, but I seem to be running into a new problem. The sub is definitely not working as intended.

As of now I feel like most of the sounds I would associate with bass are coming out of the speakers. For example, in call of duty 4 when I throw a grenade almost all of the sound from it comes out of the speakers and theres no low end. When I fire gunshots instead of getting specific bass "oomph" with each volley of bullets, I'm just getting a general bass in the background that doesn't really feel attached to the gun actually being fired. It's weird, and sounds pretty bad.

My settings are as follows:

Receiver Setting
1. Crossover at 80hz
2. LPF of LFE at 120hz

Subwoofer Settings
Level: At about 1 o clock postion
Low Pass Frequency: At 120hz. The dial goes from 120hz to 50hz
Phase: at about 3 0'clock. No idea what this does


Anyone have any ideas?

Well, the phase should be at 0. That will help a little. As the others have said, check to ensure the speakers are not set to large or full-band. However, if you're using a crossover on the speakers then that should be ok. You either have full-band (large) or crossover (small) on the 605. The only thing I can think of is the source - you may either not be streaming it in the best way or there just is not as much LFE as you think/expect or you're learning what you'll hear from the sub. It should be subtle most of the time, work in concert with the rest of the system, and pound down hard on occasion.

Other things to consider -

What is the AVR level setting for the speakers and sub? This is usually +/- db. For instance, if your AVR has the sub level at like -10, that could be a problem. Having the level on the sub set at 1 o'clock is already pretty high (hot). If you do not have an SPL meter to measure, it's tough to give further advise. Next steps for you are to visit the 605 and 705 AVR threads here on AVS, get an SPL meter and learn about configuring levels. Also, you need to run or rerun Audyssey on the 605 now that you have the sub. All the info you need on that is in the 605 and 705 threads.

Well, the phase should be at 0. That will help a little. As the others have said, check to ensure the speakers are not set to large or full-band. However, if you're using a crossover on the speakers then that should be ok. You either have full-band (large) or crossover (small) on the 605. The only thing I can think of is the source - you may either not be streaming it in the best way or there just is not as much LFE as you think/expect or you're learning what you'll hear from the sub. It should be subtle most of the time, work in concert with the rest of the system, and pound down hard on occasion.

Other things to consider -

What is the AVR level setting for the speakers and sub? This is usually +/- db. For instance, if your AVR has the sub level at like -10, that could be a problem. Having the level on the sub set at 1 o'clock is already pretty high (hot). If you do not have an SPL meter to measure, it's tough to give further advise. Next steps for you are to visit the 605 and 705 AVR threads here on AVS, get an SPL meter and learn about configuring levels. Also, you need to run or rerun Audyssey on the 605 now that you have the sub. All the info you need on that is in the 605 and 705 threads.

My sub is set to -10 using Audessy. My roomate was able to make things sound somewhat better by fooling around with individual equalizer settings, but I'm not sure if thats a good idea, because then I would need to individually configure every sound range in the fronts and for the sub and I have no idea what would sound good or not with so many configuration options.

I think its time to invest in an SPL meter.

Edit: Also the phase meter has a 180 at the bottom, so by phase 0 do you mean to have just turn the switch all the way to the left as if turning off (I guess this would be 6'o clock). (All the way to the right would be 180 phase I would guess?)

My sub is set to -10 using Audessy. My roomate was able to make things sound somewhat better by fooling around with individual equalizer settings, but I'm not sure if thats a good idea, because then I would need to individually configure every sound range in the fronts and for the sub and I have no idea what would sound good or not with so many configuration options.

I think its time to invest in an SPL meter.

Edit: Also the phase meter has a 180 at the bottom, so by phase 0 do you mean to have just turn the switch all the way to the left as if turning off (I guess this would be 6'o clock). (All the way to the right would be 180 phase I would guess?)

Best thing for you to do is set the phase off/0 to start with. Then set the sub level at about 1/3 (30%, 9 o'clock, etc). Then run Audyssey. From there you can tweak further, but that will give you a terrific baseline.

Setting EQ manually is a chore at best for experienced folks with all the proper equipment - Audyssey will do that for you in about 30 minutes without need for other gear or knowledge. For questions about Audyssey, again that 705 FAQ thread explains it as clearly as possible.

-12 is the lowest level setting for the sub channel and you have it set at -11 or -10 which may be the source of your problems.Try raising it to 0 and re-adjust the level control on the sub itself. With my 602 it is at 0.

The onkyo probably does have a large/small setting. Look thorugh the options on the receiver and try and find speaker setup. You have to set your Front left, front right and etc to small and make sure the subwoofer is set to on. Just about every receiver I know if has this basic setting.

The onkyo probably does have a large/small setting. Look thorugh the options on the receiver and try and find speaker setup. You have to set your Front left, front right and etc to small and make sure the subwoofer is set to on. Just about every receiver I know if has this basic setting.

I have the onkyo 875 and there is no option to set speakers to small or large. Large would be full band and small would be a xover setting. 60,80 etc. I think the 605 has the same setup.