View Full Version : Where should the dish receiver go for my setup?
tandylacker 03-08-08, 03:11 PM I am building a home theater in my basement. The wall that the projector will project to is directly below a wall upstairs where my other TV is setup. The TV up there has the Dishnetwork receiver hooked up already--the dual receiver. So I won't have a receiver for either upstairs or downstairs, but which floor should get it. Or will it matter at all?
I know the dual receiver will make it so I have to point the remote in a certain direction to change channels better... is there any way to improve the remote control's response time?
reconlabtech 03-08-08, 04:10 PM I have a Dish Network dual receiver/ 2 tv output setup and use one tv upstairs with the UHF remote and the receiver downstairs. It doesn't matter where the receiver is, the UHF remote works quickly and easily. In fact, the remote works so well a nearby neighbor with Dish might also be affected!
I have a similar setup. Dish 622 with component to the HD rear projection CRT TV upstairs. I ran a monoprice inwall HDMI cable down to a receiver then to the projector (built a soffit downstairs to conceal wires for the sound/lighting). The RF remote that came with the 622 works perfectly. When I started planning it like you are now, I found that this is easily the best way to do it - one box feeds two monitors with just one cable run down to the media cabinet. If you're more picky for finished look - you can always run the Dish box downstairs to the meadia cabinet and run the wire you need up to the TV, so that you wouldn't see the box in either location - but then you would need to get a second RF remote (or spend some time in the Remotes forum). I just am lazy and left the Dish box on top of the TV (one advantage of unsightly large CRT TV).
southsound 03-08-08, 04:30 PM It may only be true of some of the Dish dual receivers, but the one I have is a Model 322 and it only has the S-video output on the first (IR) receiver. I have it in the theater because if I am going to watch something on a 115" screen I want the best picture possible. I also have the better of our sound systems in the theater and I don't want to run audio cables too far for fear of quality loss through the RCA cables. I use balanced low impedance (via direct boxes) for running our other Dish receiver through a surround processor to our Mackie power amp that sits in our equipment room. On my 322 the 2nd reciever also has an RF output, but it is strictly mono so virtually useless for a theater experience.
tandylacker 03-09-08, 12:28 AM So if I keep the receiver upstairs, the only cable that should have to connect the two is the coaxial that is already in place? I just want to make sure I have all the wires where they need to be before I close off the walls.
reconlabtech 03-09-08, 08:15 AM If you are only going to have one receiver, you need the HDMI or component wire to reach the PJ no matter which floor it is on. A coaxial cable by itself is not going to connect to your PJ and only transmits a low resolution signal if you have it coming off the TV2 connection on your dual tuner receiver.
If you want hidef in both locations, you will need to leave teh receiver in single tv mode and run hdmi to one display and component to the other display. This will mean that both locations control the same tuner but it's the only way to get hidef on both from the one receiver. If both locations need to have separate signals, you will need to get a second receiver.
tandylacker 03-09-08, 01:51 PM If you are only going to have one receiver, you need the HDMI or component wire to reach the PJ no matter which floor it is on. A coaxial cable by itself is not going to connect to your PJ and only transmits a low resolution signal if you have it coming off the TV2 connection on your dual tuner receiver.
So if I run a coaxial from the dish receiver upstairs to an audio/video receiver downstairs, then an HDMI to the projector, that would work?
reconlabtech 03-09-08, 03:23 PM So if I run a coaxial from the dish receiver upstairs to an audio/video receiver downstairs, then an HDMI to the projector, that would work?The coax output for tv2 on a dual tuner sat receiver is lo def not hi def. You can do it but whatever you are watching downstairs will not receive a hi def signal. The second receive I was talking about needs to be an HD sat receiver and you would have to run a second line from the rooftop dish to that receiver. That's if you use the tv2 output.
tandylacker 03-09-08, 04:08 PM The coax output for tv2 on a dual tuner sat receiver is lo def not hi def. You can do it but whatever you are watching downstairs will not receive a hi def signal. The second receive I was talking about needs to be an HD sat receiver and you would have to run a second line from the rooftop dish to that receiver. That's if you use the tv2 output.
Well I'm glad I asked because I thought I was covered with the coaxial running down the wall. See the receiver I have upstairs now is just a standard receiver for my standard definition television. So I checked it to see if it would work, but that of course was with a standard definition tv.
So my lo def satellite receiver only has coaxial and audio/video component hook-ups. When I get a hi def satellite receiver, it will have the HDMI hook-up? If I setup the hi def satellite receiver in the basement with my hi def projector and kept the coaxial that runs to the upstairs television in tact, then I should be able to get high def downstairs on TV1 and lo def upstairs on TV2?
Sorry for my confusion, I have never hooked up anything hi def before.
southsound 03-09-08, 05:38 PM Regarding your current receiver - if it is a 322 standard definition receiver you still are better placing it with the projector because the video output is NOT component but composite. TV2 has only composite or RF but TV1 does have an S-video output which will give you a slightly better picture on your large screen. You can then run the upstair set off the RF output or run 3 RCA cables upstairs from the receiver - red and white for analog stereo audio and yellow for composite video. Your hi-definition receiver will probably have both HDMI and Component outputs for your projector and you will again face the problem of sending a stereo audio and fairly decent video signal upstairs from the receiver. Running the cables now will not be a waste of energy since they will serve both receivers. Since the modulator in the Dish receivers that sends the RF signal is not of great quality, I only use it for driving our kitchen 20" set and have forced the audio to mono because I get buzzes when set to automatic/stereo.
reconlabtech 03-09-08, 10:51 PM Well I'm glad I asked because I thought I was covered with the coaxial running down the wall. See the receiver I have upstairs now is just a standard receiver for my standard definition television. So I checked it to see if it would work, but that of course was with a standard definition tv.
So my lo def satellite receiver only has coaxial and audio/video component hook-ups. When I get a hi def satellite receiver, it will have the HDMI hook-up? If I setup the hi def satellite receiver in the basement with my hi def projector and kept the coaxial that runs to the upstairs television in tact, then I should be able to get high def downstairs on TV1 and lo def upstairs on TV2?
Sorry for my confusion, I have never hooked up anything hi def before.It really depends on your sat receiver. I have the Dish Network 622 and the 722 is basically the same. You have HDMI and component outputs for hidef and then the tv2 output is std only, composite and rf coaxial. Put the receiver where you have the PJ/high def display and run your other output to the tv. If you run component up with the coax, you will be able to use the other high def output later on if you change the tv to high def.
tandylacker 03-10-08, 11:23 PM It really depends on your sat receiver. I have the Dish Network 622 and the 722 is basically the same. You have HDMI and component outputs for hidef and then the tv2 output is std only, composite and rf coaxial. Put the receiver where you have the PJ/high def display and run your other output to the tv. If you run component up with the coax, you will be able to use the other high def output later on if you change the tv to high def.
Thank you for the help, that is what I am going to do. It really would have been embarrassing if I went to hookup the upstairs TV for hi-def and realized that I didn't run the right wires when I had the walls open.
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