I read the reviews on the DVD audio version of Love and did not know what to expect as far as how this disc would sound. I am a huge fan of the Beatles, and George Martin. After listening to the album I was compeltley blown away with the music and sound quality. Check out the new version of while my Guitar Gently Weeps, they use the original vocal by George Harrison combined with a brand new string arrangement written by George Martin. There are no other intruments besides the stings and vocal.

What a coincidence i'm listening to dvda now.

its an awesome sounding album; its the highest fidelity digital Beatles recording in existence. :)

I've linked to a couple of great reviews from the DVD-a.info site

What a coincidence i'm listening to dvda now.
What do you think?

Yes, the Beatles Love DVD-A has terrific sound. Both the overall mastering and the surround mastering is one of the best recordings out there. However, for content, the mix of all the classic Beatles songs are not for everyone. Some find mixing the songs in the fashion that the Martin's did for this project is trouncing on sacred ground. Others find it refreshing and new. I find that some of the mixes work really well, and others, I would rather hear the original song in its untouched state. That said, I found that this is still a worthwhile purchase that can also be used as an terrific audio test disc. This is just a warning that this is not a 'Greatest Hits' package in the traditional sense.

I agree with simontoronto, and wasn't too fond of the 'mix' when I first heard it..... until I saw Love in Vegas, and was blown away. The remixing made much more sense once I saw the visuals that go along with them.

I have not heard this on DVD-A, only CD, but 'live' it was amazing. The seats in the theater have speakers built into them, and really surrounded the listener. I would assume the DVD-A does the same effect

The 5.1 mix is amazing. My wife calls it "ear candy". I understand why the purists don’t like it but it is a fine example of surround music.

Fantastic disc, no doubt. The DTS track gives up very little to the MLP, so anyone with a 5.1 system should really give it a spin.

I think a Blu-ray video of this show coupled with the hi-res audio would be the best way to experience this music (short of being at the show itself) but the DVD-A is certainly a refreshing take on the Beatles, IMO.

My "audiophile" brother did not like the sound of spme of the 5.1 mixes because they sounded too processed or had a lack of midrange. He liked the 2 channel mix better.
I liked it!

what 2-channel mix?

;)

what 2-channel mix?

;)

I keep that one in the car. :)

My "audiophile" brother did not like the sound of spme of the 5.1 mixes because they sounded too processed or had a lack of midrange.

If I'm ever listening to Beatles music and concentrating on audiophile fluff like that, it's all over.

I keep that one in the car. :)

apparently DVD-A in the car can be quite stunning - read this review (http://cliffbig.blogspot.com/2008/03/ringo-gets-surround.html) of Ringo's DVD-A.

What I meant was there's no hirez 2.0 mix on the LOVE issue - if he's listening to the DVD-A in 2-ch its the same 5.1 mix folded down ;)

If I'm ever listening to Beatles music and concentrating on audiophile fluff like that, it's all over.

rofl! :)

...What I meant was there's no hirez 2.0 mix on the LOVE issue - if he's listening to the DVD-A in 2-ch its the same 5.1 mix folded down ;)



rofl! :)
While not DVD-A or "hirez" it is a 2 disc set and one is a Redbook CD.:eek: I have mine ripped and play it on my iPods (in lossless of course).

I've blown away more than a few folks with the first acappella track. Some of the older instrumentals can sound a bit harsh, even with the hi-res remaster.... just the nature of the recording at the time.

Lee

I've blown away more than a few folks with the first acappella track.

I've never heard anything sound better...amazing. Let's hear the Stones do that. ;)

Some of the older instrumentals can sound a bit harsh, even with the hi-res remaster.... just the nature of the recording at the time.
I actually found the increased bite more realistic on the whole. That opening riff on "Revolution" stunned me the first time, sounds like a P90-loaded Epi Casino in overdrive is supposed to.

I loved the content and the sound quality is superb!!

I love the stereo Hi-rez mix. I can't imagine how good the original albums would be on dvd-audio(with good mastering at least).

hey, thought nobody else would appreciate this much as you guys, I met Giles Martin tonight at a screening of the doc about the Love show. He was affable and as charismatic as he appears in interviews, clearly a guy who's grounded and knows how damn lucky he is to have Sir George as his father, and to have played a role in making these mixes.

I'm afraid I had a bit of a nerdgasm in questioning him, with a slew of things that never did come out right as I appeared stalker-like, but I =did= manage to pester repeatedly about the need for the remastered/surround mixes of the original albums. I let him know how much pleasure it was to have the surround release at home, and we talked very briefly about auditioning the material/early mixes for the 'boys" in the band...

The doc's terrific, supposed to be out on DVD in June. I also pressed the Apple Corp rep for a Blu Ray releases (and high res audio, dammit!)

Busy evening for a Beatles nut, what can I say... :)

PS. Not sure what high-res stereo you guys are listening to, if I understand the specs correctly the m/c mix is in fact 6 tracks of 44.1. "Advanced Resolution" or not, it sounds spectacular!!!

I =did= manage to pester repeatedly about the need for the remastered/surround mixes of the original albums.
GJB! (Good Job Buddy!)

I thought that this release was our last hope for DVD-Audio.

I thought it was good enough quality wise, interesting mix wise, and would spark the albums coming out in high quality 2 channel, plus an adventurous 5.1 channel mix.

I can't tell you how sad it makes me to listen to the Elton's, The Love disc, Sea Change, and know that this format is dead.

Most consumers just don't care. We have offered paying more (BecauseSoundmatters.com), bought up all stock in stores. Paid tons for expensive imports, and still nothing.

I can only hope at the end of this take everything with me @ 128k Ipod craze, that people return to good music should sound like good music. I get the convenience but the next generation Ipod should be at 300gigs (I am guessing) so small files are no longer necessary.

I am glad someone told Giles, how much we care, I had always thought that if someone could get to Springsteen, Costello, or another big catalog artist and allow them to hear what could be done we would be saved.

Well at 31 yrs old I don't see it happening for a long time, and it's a shame.

there is a trickle of a future, and his name is Steven Wilson ;)

This year there's been 3 DVDA releases
Porcupine Tree - Lightbulb Sun (awesome sonics on this one)
Bass Communion - Pacific Codex
No man - Schoolyard Ghosts

aalloca, I share your pain... I sit here and wait for the final Genesis box, and trolling AZN for the last trickles of any high res I can get my hands on... Where's Graceland, Blue, Wish You Were Here, albums where the mix has been =completed= yet sitting there unreleased.

Don't confuse this as a high res audio collection of the Beatles releases. It's "show tunes" released for the Cirque d'Soleil as the soundtrack to the Love show. With that in mind, the mixes are dramatically different, and it's fun listening to the album and trying to identify the "samples" of other musicians works that they blend into the Beatles songs. Fabulous album, but it doesn't replace any other compilation or single albums of their songs.

...and it's fun listening to the album and trying to identify the "samples" of other musicians works that they blend into the Beatles songs....

Thought I remember reading that G. Martin stated that everything on the disc was 100% original Beatles recordings except the string score (which he did and had done scores on previous Beatles songs so not setting a new precedent) for the demo track of While My Guitar Gently Weeps.

"samples" of other musicians worksNo other musicians, just the Beatles, re-mixed by their long-time producer and his son.

Sanjay

two people beat (ha!) me to it...

GM did a string arrangement for the Anthology (acoustic) version of While My Guitar.., and there's some crowd noise added from the Hollywood Bowl concert (ironically, the only official release of any LaHB material on CD!)

The rest is all the Beatles, and I think a wonderful creation, thoroughly engaging and clearly crafted with skill and sensitivity. Hell, some of the mashes are almost definitive, especially Tomorrow Never Knows' drums atop Within You And Without You, let alone the usage of the She's So Heavy part in the middle of Kite.

It's a wonderful mix and addition to their library, even more so perhaps than Let It Be Naked, but of -course- we need new high res releases of the main catalogue. Even, of course, Hollywood Bowl... ;)

we need new high res releases of the main catalogueAgreed. I don't look at the 'Love' album as a replacement for their main catalogue or even a greatest hits album. To me it's just an indicator of what's capable of being done (restoration and possible multi-channel mix) with their main catalogue.

Sanjay

and there's some crowd noise added from the Hollywood Bowl concert (ironically, the only official release of any LaHB material on CD!)
Luckily I still have my LP. :)


This is my favorite DVD-A, easily. Perhaps the best part is that it reveals the stunning quality that's on the tapes, just waiting...

I found the "Love" album an enjoyable experience, but was put off by some of the mashups and especially put off by speed/pitch shifting on a couple of tunes. The sonic experience, however, was wonderful

The current trend of idiocy in mastering is another thing altogether. The latest releases by Springsteen and REM are UN LISTENABLE. They are truly the worst example of mixing/mastering I've heard. Squashed worse than "Vapor trails" by Rush, NO stereo field at all. practically MONO.

Long live PT and SW!

I don't remember the samples off-hand, but they are used as backgrounds to the songs, and Pink Floyd is represented in one that I can't remember right now, but it's the clicking clocks segment from DSTOM. I'll try to identify it after listening again. The technique used on this album is called "mash up", and the various songs are mixed by taking snippets from one take and meshing into other takes of the same song. The 26 tracks comprise about 130 recordings. The string arrangement is on While My Guitar, and a clever take on that song.

I don't remember the samples off-hand, but they are used as backgrounds to the songs, and Pink Floyd is represented in one that I can't remember right now, but it's the clicking clocks segment from DSTOM. I'll try to identify it after listening again. The technique used on this album is called "mash up", and the various songs are mixed by taking snippets from one take and meshing into other takes of the same song. The 26 tracks comprise about 130 recordings. The string arrangement is on While My Guitar, and a clever take on that song.
I think most of us Beatle freaks are buying the official line that all of the songs on Love are from original Beatle tapes - except for the string arrangement on While My Guitar Gently Weeps. If you do know of a tune on Love that has parts from other artists please specify which one.

I don't remember the samples off-hand, but they are used as backgrounds to the songs, and Pink Floyd is represented in one that I can't remember right now, but it's the clicking clocks segment from DSTOM...

I don't believe this since George/Giles Martin said it is an all Beatles work.

The only new recordings are the strings on When my Guitar Gently Weeps...

... we wanted to make it a Beatles record...No, the birds are from ''Across the Universe.'' Well, actually, we did add a wood pigeon — to make it more British....That was one of the two things we recorded especially for this, the other being the new orchestration for ''While My Guitar Gently Weeps.''...


The mix was approved by Paul, Ringo, The Harrison estate (his idea), and The Lennon estate. Do you really believe that other music/samples were added and no one noticed (please point to any documented info) but you? Also why would George Martin covertly slip other peoples music into the mix when he had plenty of Beatles recordings to choose from? Please give one reason why he would risk the controversy and embarrassment that would happen if caught when he is at the end of such a distinguished career?:confused: It just makes no sense at all.

fer sure fer sure there's not DSOTM on there... Interesting rumour though, to start...What, you going to listen to the disc with Wizard of Oz next? ;)

And, yeah, I've still got Hollywood Bowl on vinyl... It's a pretty crap show, but I've got it...

fer sure fer sure there's not DSOTM on there... Interesting rumour though, to start...What, you going to listen to the disc with Wizard of Oz next? ;)

And, yeah, I've still got Hollywood Bowl on vinyl... It's a pretty crap show, but I've got it...

Going in the opposite direction the line "I don't know, I was really drunk at the time." on DSotM was by Wings guitarist Henry McCullough.:eek: I guess that is a DSotM and Love connection in a 3ed cousin by marriage on my wife's side, sort of way.:D

well, if we're going OT (deliciously) to Wings, we've got to go here:

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/03/audio_hoaxes_an.html

I vote for non-hoax! ;)

I remember Johnny B.[a dj on WLUP FM here in Chicago] playing that tape at the time and getting an injunction from Paul and or his label to stop him from playing it[thusly I believe it's real].

fer sure fer sure there's not DSOTM on there... Interesting rumour though, to start...
...

I believe the rumour is the other way around.

On the 1992 remaster of DSOTM, you can hear the Beatles' "Ticket to Ride" at the end of "Eclipse".

It's believed to be a remaster error.

Feature-Length Documentary Chronicles The Making Of The Beatles’ ‘LOVE’ by Cirque du Soleil.

The film details the story behind the unique partnership between The Beatles and Cirque du Soleil that resulted in the creation and launch of “LOVE," the stage production still wowing audiences at The Mirage in Las Vegas, and the double Grammy-winning album of the same name. The film is dedicated to the memory of Neil Aspinall, an Executive Producer.

The DVD’s total running time is 128 minutes, including the 84-minute documentary film and bonus features. The film and extras are presented in DTS & Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround and Dolby Digital Stereo.

‘All Together Now’ faithfully recounts how the “LOVE” project came into being, borne from the personal friendship between George Harrison and Cirque du Soleil founder Guy Laliberte. George saw how the twin talents of Cirque’s artistry and The Beatles’ music could be fused into something new and totally original.


DVD contents:

‘All Together Now’ documentary (84:00)

Bonus Features:

- “Changing The Music” (22:00): A behind-the scenes look at the decision-making process for the “LOVE” concept and music production.

- “Music In The Theatre” (07:00): A look at the process of creating the “LOVE” show’s unique audio design.

- “Making ‘LOVE’” (09:00): A backstage pass to explore the design of “LOVE,” including the art direction, costumes, props, screen imagery and the use of The Beatles’ voices in the “LOVE” stage production and its soundtrack.

*Release Date Fall 2008

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More info...

Apple Corps Ltd./Cirque du Soleil are to release the feature-length documentary 'All Together Now' on DVD, which will be marketed and distributed worldwide by EMI Music.

The film details the story behind the unique partnership between The Beatles and Cirque du Soleil that resulted in the creation and launch of "LOVE," the stage production still wowing audiences at The Mirage in Las Vegas, and the double Grammy-winning album of the same name. The film is dedicated to the memory of Neil Aspinall, an Executive Producer of the DVD.

The DVD's total running time is 122 minutes, including the 84-minute documentary film and bonus features. The film and extras are presented in DTS & Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround and Dolby Digital Stereo.

'All Together Now' faithfully recounts how the "LOVE" project came into being, borne from the personal friendship between George Harrison and Cirque du Soleil founder Guy Laliberte. George saw how the twin talents of Cirque's artistry and The Beatles' music could be fused into something new and totally original.

The director, Adrian Wills, records early meetings between the Cirque & Apple Corps Ltd. creative teams, as well as contributions from Sir Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Yoko Ono Lennon and Olivia Harrison discussing how The Beatles' music can be used in a different way. We hear about the decision to utilize the combined talents of Sir George Martin and his son Giles Martin to produce what became a 90-minute soundscape created from The Beatles' multi-track recordings and how this new audio adventure was being quietly worked on in the famous Abbey Road Studios in London, England whilst the first creative ideas for the show were being formulated in Montreal, Canada.

These early stages of the project were all filmed, as were the first rehearsals at the Mirage Hotel theatre in Las Vegas, which was completely rebuilt with a one-of-a-kind sound system and complex round staging to house the "LOVE" show. Sir George and Giles Martin, the showÕs Musical Directors, were involved every step of the way with the remarkable Cirque du Soleil creative team, performers and backroom staff.

It wasn't all "plain-sailing" and there has been no attempt to disguise some of the disagreements that took place along the way regarding how some of the songs would be portrayed visually. These creative differences, a necessary part of the overall process of bringing "LOVE" to its most vibrant life, illustrate the participants' love and respect for the music and vision of The Beatles.

In addition to their roles within the main feature, Sir George and Giles, along with engineer Paul Hicks, also pop up in another piece titled "Changing The Music" which reveals in fascinating depth how the music was created and the challenges they faced. They explain how they sourced some of the individual instruments and effects and how they were encouraged to experiment.

The 'All Together Now' documentary and bonus features provide a fascinating insight into the creative skills and passion that went into making this project a groundbreaking critical and commercial success.

DVD contents 'All Together Now' documentary (84:00) Bonus Features: - "Changing The Music" (22:00): A behind-the scenes look at the decision-making process for the "LOVE" concept and music production. - "Music In The Theatre" (07:00): A look at the process of creating the "LOVE" show's unique audio design. - "Making 'LOVE'" (09:00): A backstage pass to explore the design of "LOVE," including the art direction, costumes, props, screen imagery and the use of The Beatles' voices in the "LOVE" stage production and its soundtrack.

Is this good news or bad news?

It seems like Apple Corp. has been releasing a single new product every couple of years to keep the brand alive and the revenues rolling in, whether that single new product is "Yellow Submarine," "Let It Be--Naked," "Love," the Capitol box, etc.

So the announcement of a "Love" documentary says to me that the Beatles on iTunes--and by extension the remastered editions of the original albums--will not see the light of day for at least another year.

Please tell me my logic is flawed.

...that's the doc I saw/was referring to above... I was speaking directly to the Apple Corps head when standing beside Giles, and used the interrogation method I learned from Zodiac...:)

It went something like this...

"So, Beatles on iTunes are coming soon of course, but what about 5.1 mixes in high res?"
"We don't know yet about high res, but did you buy Help?"

I couldn't give a rats ass about the iTunes release, but it'd be nice to see remasters done at the same time, no?

My breath is not held...

I believe the rumour is the other way around.

On the 1992 remaster of DSOTM, you can hear the Beatles' "Ticket to Ride" at the end of "Eclipse".

It's believed to be a remaster error.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Side_of_the_Moon

"On most CD pressings, a barely-audible orchestral version of The Beatles' "Ticket to Ride" is audible after "Eclipse", playing very faintly over the heartbeats that close the album. It is unknown why this was included, but it may have been the consequence of a remastering error. The bootleg recording A Tree Full of Secrets includes an amplified, re-processed version of this oddity, which allows it to be heard clearly. This is not audible on the original vinyl."

I hear it on the stereo RBCD version of DSOTM 30th anniversary hybrid Super Audio CD with a 5.1 channel DSD surround sound version, CDP7243 5 82136 21, issue 2003, which was remixed from the original 16-track studio tapes.

It comes in along with the last phrase, "There is no dark side of the moon, really. As a matter of fact it's all dark." It sounds like tape bleed -the remnants of the previous recording on a tape.

I havn't had a listen in some time but I beleive I recall hearing "bleed through" on at least one other track on my CD. When I first heard this I thought, man, what poor remastering - LOL.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Side_of_the_Moon

"On most CD pressings, a barely-audible orchestral version of The Beatles' "Ticket to Ride" is audible after "Eclipse", playing very faintly over the heartbeats that close the album. It is unknown why this was included, but it may have been the consequence of a remastering error. The bootleg recording A Tree Full of Secrets includes an amplified, re-processed version of this oddity, which allows it to be heard clearly. This is not audible on the original vinyl."

I hear it on the stereo RBCD version of DSOTM 30th anniversary hybrid Super Audio CD with a 5.1 channel DSD surround sound version, CDP7243 5 82136 21, issue 2003, which was remixed from the original 16-track studio tapes.

It comes in along with the last phrase, "There is no dark side of the moon, really. As a matter of fact it's all dark." It sounds like tape bleed -the remnants of the previous recording on a tape.

I havn't had a listen in some time but I beleive I recall hearing "bleed through" on at least one other track on my CD. When I first heard this I thought, man, what poor remastering - LOL.

Being a big Floyd Droid, I'll have to mention one of the long-standing theories:

Jerry Driscoll, the doorman quoted above, couldn't leave his post (i.e. at the door), and hence was recorded at the front door. Abbey Road constantly played "studio hits" over the speakers in the foyer/entrance, and happened to be playing a Beatles track when Driscoll was recorded, and thus it remains in the background.

Of course, no-one remembers exactly, especially the Floyd...

shinksma