Greetings All!

It gives me great pleasure to announce the purchase of the Speaker portion of my Home Theater setup and in the process obliterating any semblance of a budget. My wife just told me to "Go for it!" and I did.

I purchased the following:

(2) Acoustic Zen Adagio Floor Standing Loudspeakers
(1) Acoustic Zen Adagio Jr. Center Channel Speaker
(2) Acoustic Zen Adagio Jr. Surround Speakers
(2) 8' Lengths of Acoustic Zen Hologram Speaker Wire for Mains
(1) 4' Length of Acoustic Zen Satori Speaker Wire for Center Channel
(2) Custom made stands for Rear Surrounds
(2) 45' Lengths of Acoustic Zen Shiloh III Speaker Wire for Rear Surrounds

The Adagios & Adagio Jrs. are rated at 89 dB / 6 Ohms.

How much power / amplification do I need to run these optimally?

NOTE: I AM EDITING THIS INITIAL POST BECAUSE I CANCELED THE DEAL!!! CABLES WERE WAY TOO EXPENSIVE!!! I AM STARTING FROM SQUARE ONE.

Thanks,

Eddie

How large is your room? How loud will you be listening? Is your room treated? Would you say your room is 'live' (lots of hard, bare surfaces, uncovered windows, wood floors, etc.)?

I backed out of deal. Cable too expensive. FS speakers are TL design. CC/RS speakers are not - they are rear ported. Too many variables. Afraid timbre and speed would be off due to the extremely different designs.

Starting from square one.....

I thought I listed room specs earlier in this post or another post when you asked.

deneb,

From a prior post you were helping me with:

Room size is 20'L x 14' W with 8' ceilings and an open floor plan. Large archways - equivalent to 3 or 4 doorways - delineate rooms. Plaster ceilings. Drywall throughout - except for firewall (plaster over cinderblock). Floor is 100% carpeted excluding bathroom. 2 doors - bathroom and main entry.

I listen to primarily to solo piano by artists like Horowitz, Claudio Arrau, Annie Fischer, Ivan Moravec, Marc-Andre Hamelin. Jazz pianists such as Oscar Peterson & Monk. Jazz guitarist like Joe Pass, Tal Farlow, Herb Ellis. A wide range of Orchestral Music including Piano and Violin Concertos as well as Symphonies. 80 to 90% of my time is spent listening to Classical music and Jazz. The rest is dedicated to Classic Rock and whatever Kids Music my twin 7 year olds are listening to.

Hope that helps. Oh one more thing - Sofa has a tall seat - 40" high. I am figuring that I need larger floorstanding mains for better sound dispersion or taller bookshelf speakers on higher stands.

Thanks,

Eddie

I am figuring that I need larger floorstanding mains for better sound dispersion or taller bookshelf speakers on higher stands.

Thanks,

Eddie

Eddie, if you don't mind me throwing in my two cents worth..... For home theater, I strongly recommend that you make sure the speakers are matched. A home theater series in any brand that you like is a good start. Like many HT people, I started out cobbling a system together, adding this and that to what was originally a two-channel system. It wasn't until relatively recently, when all my speakers are actually "matched," that I see what a difference that makes.

As for powering whatever you do get, there is no such thing as too much power, other than what it does for your electric bill. Efficient speakers make a huge difference. The ones you were considering, for example, rated at 89dB, require twice as much power (watts) to produce the same output as ones rated at 92dB. (You must double the wattage for each 3dB of sound.)

There's so much that can be said on this subject, because there are so many variables, but I just wanted to emphasize that speaker matching and efficiency are, in IMHO, very important in home theater applications.

Eddie have a look at the Revel Performa series and PSB Synchrony Series. Both these brands will make Claudio Arrau's piano sing and they are high value brands. For more money, look at Aerial Acoustics. Dynaudio is another good brand, but I don't think they make a properly designed center channel, since they make two ways that suffer from poor off-axis response.

And also, don't believe the cable hype: any decent 12 gauge cable will do the trick.

And also, don't believe the cable hype: any decent 12 gauge cable will do the trick.

Agreed!

And by decent we mean even 12 gauge Home Depot speaker wire for under $1/foot is just fine for any speakers you end up with.

And by decent we mean even 12 gauge Home Depot speaker wire for under $1/foot is just fine for any speakers you end up with.
Around that price point and lower, you can also find some very good, practical options at www.bluejeanscable.com (http://www.bluejeanscable.com). They also have informative, no-nonsense write-ups about the various AV cables, providing the kind of information that can save you a lot of money.

One crucial factor - I have twin 7 year old boys that are extremely active. Always rough-housing, play fighting, real fighting. Stand mounted speakers are out of the question at this point. They would crash into them - repeatedly. Trust me on this.

I need 4 floorstanders and a CC all from the same company that excel at music first and HT second. Further, SVS PB ULTRA 13 SUBWOOFER is too big. My wife said it is the size of an end table in Living Room. Need a smaller musical sub that does well with HT too.

Thanks,

Eddie

P.S. Auditioned B&W - did not care for them.

One crucial factor - I have twin 7 year old boys that are extremely active. Always rough-housing, play fighting, real fighting. Stand mounted speakers are out of the question at this point. They would crash into them - repeatedly. Trust me on this.

I need 4 floorstanders and a CC all from the same company that excel at music first and HT second. Further, SVS PB ULTRA 13 SUBWOOFER is too big. My wife said it is the size of an end table in Living Room. Need a smaller musical sub that does well with HT too.

Thanks,

Eddie

P.S. Auditioned B&W - did not care for them.
I know a lot of self-proclaimed "audiophiles" like to bash Def Tech speakers, maybe because they don't think anything under $15K is worth their consideration, but you might want to take a look at them for your application. Their front towers are very solid and heavy, so the twins would pretty much have to climb them to knock them over! The built-in powered subs are very effective and save space in HT/family rooms. And it's one less box to be potentially kicked in. Several nice, matching centers options are available.

With most fronts, the ideal positioning for music is not necessarily the same as what you'd want for home theater. But in practice, none of us really move our speakers around depending on how we're using them at any given moment, so IMHO it's wise to get ones that can perform their double-duty very well from one position. I auditioned some Martin Logans that sounded amazing if you were in their sweet spot, but moving about 2' in any direction noticeably diminished the effect. Def Techs do a remarkable job of filling space and not feeling directional.

[Incidentally, I recently needed a set of bookshelf speakers for a home office room. Of the options I auditioned, it came down to a pair of Sonus Fabers and some Def Tech 450s. The Sonus Fabers are certainly "prettier," but at a fraction of the price, I went with the Def Tech 450s, as their performance was virtually indistinguishable. If it had been a blind test, I'd have assumed they were around the same price point.]

Now, if you're really determined to spend lots more money, the Sonus Faber floorstanders were pretty amazing. I can't remember what they were called, but they looked and sounded beautiful.

I know a lot of self-proclaimed "audiophiles" like to bash Def Tech speakers, maybe because they don't think anything under $15K is worth their consideration, but you might want to take a look at them for your application. Their front towers are very solid and heavy, so the twins would pretty much have to climb them to knock them over! The built-in powered subs are very effective and save space in HT/family rooms. And it's one less box to be potentially kicked in. Several nice, matching centers options are available.

With most fronts, the ideal positioning for music is not necessarily the same as what you'd want for home theater. But in practice, none of us really move our speakers around depending on how we're using them at any given moment, so IMHO it's wise to get ones that can perform their double-duty very well from one position. I auditioned some Martin Logans that sounded amazing if you were in their sweet spot, but moving about 2' in any direction noticeably diminished the effect. Def Techs do a remarkable job of filling space and not feeling directional.

[Incidentally, I recently needed a set of bookshelf speakers for a home office room. Of the options I auditioned, it came down to a pair of Sonus Fabers and some Def Tech 450s. The Sonus Fabers are certainly "prettier," but at a fraction of the price, I went with the Def Tech 450s, as their performance was virtually indistinguishable. If it had been a blind test, I'd have assumed they were around the same price point.]

Now, if you're really determined to spend lots more money, the Sonus Faber floorstanders were pretty amazing. I can't remember what they were called, but they looked and sounded beautiful.

The OP has already purchased speakers, no? It sounded like he wanted subwoofer recommendations but I could be wrong.

Why not the JL Fathom f113? I think craigsub mentioned in his review thread that this was the first and only small subwoofer that offered true performance. I could be misquoting, but it was something along those lines.

-Chad

I don't think the OP has purchased speakers yet, and I would recommend two pairs of Salk SongTowers plus the matching center. http://www.salksound.com/songtower.shtml

I don't think the OP has purchased speakers yet, and I would recommend two pairs of Salk SongTowers plus the matching center. http://www.salksound.com/songtower.shtml
Interesting...I've never heard of those. Where did you find them, and what do you like about them?

Jim Salk has amassed a rather large following with his speakers....

They are truly beautiful fit and finish, and to top it off, they are said to sound absolutely amazing...

Look here to see what kind of magic Jim can do with his woodwork... those are the HT3's http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=939744&page=6

I now see the post where it says he backed out of the deal. I missed that part :D Maybe the OP should edit that first post? I was quite confused until I read every post in this thread.

I just recently committed to buying speakers from Salk as well. I read a ton of threads here, and after a lot of research went for SongTowers, a SongCenter, and the MT version of the SongSurrounds for a 5.0 system. I haven't purchased a sub yet, but I'm thinking Epik Castle, Epik Conquest, or SVS Ultra as my choice. I might also go with the MFW-15 duals package as their musical rating by craigsub's ranking thread rates them quite high. For $999 I'm sure you can't go wrong. Anyway work with Jim Salk personally (contact him by email) and I imagine you'll be quite impressed with the amount of knowledge this man has. If you want taller loudspeakers then Jim can build them for you custom.

-Chad

Yes, the deal fell through for him.... he is still looking..

If you liked the speakers, why not just buy them and leave the cables out of it?

Paying a ton for cabling is ridiculous.

+1 for bluejeancables.. save yourself the money.. cables are all hype :(

The Adagio deal was a package deal. Salk site looks interesting. A forum member sent me a PM advising against Transmission Line speakers because they are not as efficient and draw lots of current to work optimally. i don't know if this is true for either the Adagios or the Salk speakers.

Thanks for all the responses!!

The Adagio deal was a package deal.

Was the seller going to throw in the Vaseline for free?

The Adagio deal was a package deal. Salk site looks interesting. A forum member sent me a PM advising against Transmission Line speakers because they are not as efficient and draw lots of current to work optimally. i don't know if this is true for either the Adagios or the Salk speakers.

Thanks for all the responses!!

I think one of your main issues with the Adiagos was FS speakers are TL design. CC/RS speakers were not...
Not to mention that the cables they were selling you, you were taking it right up the @$$....

On a very serious note, I don't think you will find a better designed speaker in the Salk's... Now if you like the styling of the Song Towers, some of the most discerning speaker critics have givin them a huge, huge thumbs up.

There is a dedicated Salk thread here on AVS, maybe you should venture over there and see what the hub-bub is all about... :)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=939744

Warp

biffva,

LOL. Probably not. Painful package deal!

Eddie

+1 for bluejeancables.. save yourself the money.. cables are all hype :(
+1 for Blue Jeans Cable. Can't say enough about this quality, no-nonsense company. Cables aren't all hype, but Blue Jeans is very good about explaining exactly which parameters matter for given cable applications, and then offering cables that address those requirements without the need to make them look all esoteric and expensive.

The SALK thread and website is amazing. Looks promising.

Watt's the big deal? :p

Yeah really, who cares?:confused:

Raymond Leggs & progprog:

The big deal is that I am attempting to re-build my old A/V system that was destroyed in a house fire. Thankfully I was able to get my wife and children safely out of the house and I went back in to put the fire out myself. I suffered burns on both of my forearms and re-injured my back that was originally hurt by an explosion in Operation: Desert Storm. I am permanently disabled and would do it all over again to serve my country.

progprog: Thank you for your prior responses, the links to bluejeancables, and for recommending Def Tech speakers which I am auditioning later this week.

This is the reason I am a forum member, part of the community, seeking guidance and help restoring that which was violently taken away from me.

Eddie

KC, thanks for serving.

Raymond Leggs & progprog:

The big deal is that I am attempting to re-build my old A/V system that was destroyed in a house fire. Thankfully I was able to get my wife and children safely out of the house and I went back in to put the fire out myself. I suffered burns on both of my forearms and re-injured my back that was originally hurt by an explosion in Operation: Desert Storm. I am permanently disabled and would do it all over again to serve my country.

progprog: Thank you for your prior responses, the links to bluejeancables, and for recommending Def Tech speakers which I am auditioning later this week.

This is the reason I am a forum member, part of the community, seeking guidance and help restoring that which was violently taken away from me.

Eddie

No, Eddie, we weren't saying "who cares?" to you! It was to the guy obsessing about those cables. He seemed so concerned about what the dealer was asking for them, I kinda think he was eager to stir up the never-ending cable/snake oil debate. I think both Raymond & I were suggesting he drop it and get back to your issue with finding the right speakers.

I'm glad you're going to check out the Def Techs. I really think they are a great bargain and great performers. It's a really long thread, but the Def Tech Owners' thread has some nice insights about the various models and how they compare. (Though I said the twins would have to climb them to tip them over, you'll probably want to discourage that..... Oh boy(s)!)

And Eddie, in all seriousness, I join in thanking you for your service. I know it probably doesn't always feel like it, but there are plenty of us who never, ever, forget what you guys have done for us.

progprog:

I apologize - your point was taken out of context by me and I see now what you are referring to. The Def Tech Mythos line is out of the running - too easy for a child to tip over, What model is their sturdiest and what amp do I power the drivers with. The sub has it's own amp.

What works best with Def Tech speakers in terms of amplification? I would like to buy the Emotiva XPA-5 Power Amp and hook it up to a Pre/Pro. The Integra DTC has received a great dea of negative press re "synching" problems. any suggestions on Pre/Pro's or a killer A/V Receiver? I know this is not the proper forum for it - just wondering what every one else has done. any helpful comments would go a long way into helping me put together my family A/V system.

Thanks,

Your friend,

Eddie

Eddie,

There may have been entirely no meaning behind Raymond's words. He's the court jester around here. Take him in that context. :)

Eddie,

There may have been entirely no meaning behind Raymond's words. He's the court jester around here. Take him in that context. :)

May have been...?

May have been...?

The caffeine hadn't kicked in yet when I wrote that. ;)

The caffeine hadn't kicked in yet when I wrote that. ;)

That explains it!:)

Isn't this the third thread from the same person for the same thing. He wants to spend 17k on the entire system, but cables are too expensive! Alot of typing but nothing happens.

first post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1001051
second post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1004111
third post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1009902

Isn't this the third thread from the same person for the same thing. He wants to spend 17k on the entire system, but cables are too expensive! Alot of typing but nothing happens.

first post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1001051
second post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1004111
third post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1009902

Yes. And I ask a perfectly valid question about the prices of the stuff he says is too expensive, and get ignored by the OP, and bashed by two other posters for asking. Which is why I said, "Screw it", and deleted my posts.

If the cables are too expensive, why start another post? Just use the information already there to go to the next a/v system. Sounds like alot of B.S. to me.

If the cables are too expensive, why start another post? Just use the information already there to go to the next a/v system. Sounds like alot of B.S. to me.

Yes. Not too mention that ANY company that would insist that expensive cables (their own brand no less), are part of the deal, would be automatically crossed off of my list right then.

Yes. And I ask a perfectly valid question about the prices of the stuff he says is too expensive, and get ignored by the OP, and bashed by two other posters for asking. Which is why I said, "Screw it", and deleted my posts.

Um, haven't you been around here long enough to know about Raymond? :rolleyes:

Mikeb53: It was suggested that I post in various sub-forums to get the full benefit of the Forum members experience within that sub-forum. It made sense to me and I followed the advice. In hindsight it is difficult keeping up with so many open posts and I would never take that course of action in the future. I have gone on several dealer auditions to listen to speakers with my wife or buddy driving me there. It was very difficult - in the beginning - to move around due to the extent of my injuries to arms and lower back. I had explained this in a prior post and various PM's to people that have been very helpful. I am healing up nicely and am now off of pain medication. I plan to begin serious dealer auditions commencing this week.

The Adagio deal was presented like this:

> A forum member read one of my posts and offered to sell me the front Adagio floorstanders in Red because his wife hated the color and he already purchased the same speakers in another color which she loved.

> I decided to act on the deal after posting a few inquiries about the brand and model.

> The gentleman decided that he did not want to sell his system piece by piece and asked if I wanted complete AZ Adagio system. My wife and I talked it over and decided on purchasing the system based on the excellent reviews and a dealer demo I had a fellow Marine drive me 75 miles to listen to the Adagios.

> I was extremely happy that I was finally purchasing something and then the PM's started arriving - all of them asking how much I paid for the cables and that I got ripped off. Dozens of emails also. Everyone told me to try and buy the speakers without the cables and use BlueJeanCables.com

> The seller would not sell speakers without the high priced cables and I listened to the forum advice and backed out of the deal.

I hope that explains how the circumstances came to be what they were and am sorry if I offended you in any way.

Rutgar: Please accept my sincere apologies for not responding to your original post about cost. I missed it. Somewhere between Good Friday and Easter I only checked forum very quickly. Further my twin sons had their Birthday and I was busy ordering them their first bikes and organizing party. Please feel free to send me a PM and I will talk to you in private. The forum member that offered the deal did not want prices on package deal posted on forum and I was honoring my word. Again, I am truly sorry that I missed out on responding to you and doubly sorry that you felt the urge to remove further posts. I have tried my best to answer and thank everyone that has shown me the courtesy to respond to my posts.

For the record - I loved the Adagios and am now trying to find a speaker that sounds similar. Further, our budget was reduced to only $12K for TV, Speakers, Electronics, and A/V furniture.

Guys - no harm, no foul - I tried to do my best at a very difficult time and have received many valuable suggestions from the community here at AVS.

Once again I apologize to Mikeb53 and Rutgar for any unintentional harm I have caused to them.

Eddie

Um, haven't you been around here long enough to know about Raymond? :rolleyes:

Yes I have. Which gave me a choice; To get into it with Raymond, or not waste my time. I chose the latter.

Once again I apologize to Mikeb53 and Rutgar for any unintentional harm I have caused to them.

Eddie

Okay. And really, no apology necessary. As I said earlier, it was a combination of things, that made me simple delete my posts. Since you were talking about price being an issue, I was interested in what those prices were. I did go online and look up what prices I could find.

Yes I have. Which gave me a choice; To get into it with Raymond, or not waste my time. I chose the latter.

Raymond doesn't really get into it. He ignores the bait and usually moves onto another thread with another inane comment punctuated by several smilies. He is impervious to attack!:D

> The seller would not sell speakers without the high priced cables and I listened to the forum advice and backed out of the deal.

I hope that explains how the circumstances came to be what they were and am sorry if I offended you in any way.



You are much better off now and can use your budget in better ways. You really have to wonder why would he insist on only selling with the cables if he was using the same speakers but in a different color? Sounds to me like he bought into the $3000 worth of cables and was trying to get out of them.

ChicagoTC:

That is exactly what my wife figured out re: unloading the cables.

To All:

The whole second page was devoted to me explaining my position and apologizing for slighting others.

Rather than me start a new topic - could the Speaker Forum members focus in on recommending a surround sound speaker system? Standmounts, in-wall, on-wall, ceiling mounted speakers are all not options. I require 4 floorstanders, a Center Channel that is not rear ported, and a small musical sub. MUSIC is very important to me as it helps keep me calm.

I have auditioned and liked: Audio Physic Tempo, Acoustic Zen Adagio, big Maggies - don't remember model number.

I auditioned and did not like: B&W, Polk, and Revel F12 speakers.

People have suggested: SVS speakers, SALK speakers, and AV123 Strata mini speakers via internet direct.

Others have recommended: Vienna Acoustics, Definitive Technology, and Paradigm Signature Series.

If I left anyone's suggestion out - I'm sorry for the oversight.

Thank You,

Eddie

ChicagoTC:

That is exactly what my wife figured out re: unloading the cables.

To All:

The whole second page was devoted to me explaining my position and apologizing for slighting others.

Rather than me start a new topic - could the Speaker Forum members focus in on recommending a surround sound speaker system? Standmounts, in-wall, on-wall, ceiling mounted speakers are all not options. I require 4 floorstanders, a Center Channel that is not rear ported, and a small musical sub. MUSIC is very important to me as it helps keep me calm.

I have auditioned and liked: Audio Physic Tempo, Acoustic Zen Adagio, big Maggies - don't remember model number.

I auditioned and did not like: B&W, Polk, and Revel F12 speakers.

People have suggested: SVS speakers, SALK speakers, and AV123 Strata mini speakers via internet direct.

Others have recommended: Vienna Acoustics, Definitive Technology, and Paradigm Signature Series.

If I left anyone's suggestion out - I'm sorry for the oversight.

Thank You,

Eddie

I'll just add a few others that I have auditioned and are generally well received.

Dali Helicon 400 and Dynaudio Focus 220. I'm also seriously considering the Salk V3s.

When I said watt's the big deal. I meant what is the big deal about how many WATTS the sound system is rated at. Just because an amp is high watt does not make it a GOOD amp. And It was also directed at the insane amount one poster was thinking about paying for cables.

Maybe I should have went more in depth than I did.

progprog:

I apologize - your point was taken out of context by me and I see now what you are referring to.
Not necessary. Don't worry about it.

What works best with Def Tech speakers in terms of amplification? I would like to buy the Emotiva XPA-5 Power Amp and hook it up to a Pre/Pro. The Integra DTC has received a great dea of negative press re "synching" problems. any suggestions on Pre/Pro's or a killer A/V Receiver? I know this is not the proper forum for it - just wondering what every one else has done. any helpful comments would go a long way into helping me put together my family A/V system.

Thanks,

Your friend,

EddieFunny you mention those. I came very close to buying exactly that: the Emotiva XPA-5 and the Integra DTC 9.8. In fact, I did buy the Integra, but I ended up with Anthem amps and the Denon AVP-A1HDCI. Let me explain.

Amps: While reading about Emotiva amps, my biggest choice was whether to wait for the new XPA series or go with the existing MPS-2. But then, my local Anthem dealer happened to have an Anthem A-5 on their close-out rack. I've read a ton about them and liked what I'd heard, so I jumped. I've since added an A-2 as well. I am very happy with the Anthems. They sound great and I think they'll last me for a very long time.

Pre-amp: As for a pre-amp, I was having a hard time deciding a few months ago, and I knew lots of people were waiting for the 9.8, so I put down a deposit on one even though I wasn't fully decided, just to get myself in line if that was going to be my choice. When the Integra arrived in Feb, I bought it as it seemed to have the features I wanted a great price. I quickly realized, though, that I wanted more flexibility in video processing than it could offer. (A real killer for me that most other people don't seem to care about is that the output settings are global, i.e., they apply to all your video inputs.)

Anyway, I had since learned more about the Denon, which is also a new component, and started drooling over it. I stopped at my local dealer and my salesguy mentioned that they had literally just gotten their first one in, and it was supposed to be for display in one of their HT rooms. Well, it was there, I was there....the rest is history! I sold the Integra on Audiogon.

Conclusions: In the end, I still think the Emotiva and Integra are a great combination. I have never read anything but raves for Emotiva products, and I still think the Integra is an amazingly full-featured product, especially at its price point. I've followed the Integra thread for a few months now, and I'm not sure what synching issue you refer to. Of course, now that people are actually using it, they'll start to see quirks and annoyances and devise firmware upgrade wishlists, as always happens with new components. That's bound to happen with my Denon too.

You also asked about "killer" receivers. Now that I've got a Denon product and I've been reading a lot of forum threads, reviews, etc., it's clear that their high-end receivers, the AVR 4308 and 5308, have devoted followings. I can only say that I really like the quality feel and the performance of my Denon pre-pro, so if that's any indication, I'll bet their receivers are very nice as well.

The components I've mentioned cover a pretty wide price range. I think it's a good idea, when starting from scratch, to break your budget down for the various parts of the system, and that will narrow down which products make sense in each category. Sorry for going on so long....

ChicagoTC: I am having a difficult time locating Dynaudio dealers withing a 100 mile radius that carry the full line of products for audition. I have not been to the Dali website as of yet and will see what dealerships are in my area. I see their ads everywhere - WhatHiFi, Stereophile, The Absolute Sound, etc. - and am very interested in listening how the floorstanders sound. Way back I was considering purchase of the Dali IKON 6 5.1 but had to deep six the idea because the Rear surrounds are wall mounted. My downstairs neighbor (WWII Vet) would drop a dime on me and I'd have to take them down. He's a hardcore by-the-rules man. I printed out an eighty page thread on SALK speakers and am going to read it after Church tomorrow. He makes Transmission Line speakers and other types from what I gathered at a quick glance. Beautiful cabinetry.

Raymond Leggs: We're cool! I didn't get it. My fault. Rest easy. Help me out with some suggestions for speaker system - 5.1 with 4 FS, a CC with no rear port, and a small to medium sub.

progprog: ********** supposedly has a family discount deal with DENON. Buy speakers from ********** and get 10% off of a Denon product. You have a dream system. The Denon AVP-A1HDCI is plain truth amazing! What speakers do you own? I'm awestruck after reading the DENON website AVP-A1HDCI info and specs. You did not go on too long .......you could have kept on going. Damn, I'm impressed.

Thanks guys,

Your friend,

Eddie

ChicagoTC: I am having a difficult time locating Dynaudio dealers withing a 100 mile radius that carry the full line of products for audition. I have not been to the Dali website as of yet and will see what dealerships are in my area. I see their ads everywhere - WhatHiFi, Stereophile, The Absolute Sound, etc. - and am very interested in listening how the floorstanders sound. Way back I was considering purchase of the Dali IKON 6 5.1 but had to deep six the idea because the Rear surrounds are wall mounted. My downstairs neighbor (WWII Vet) would drop a dime on me and I'd have to take them down. He's a hardcore by-the-rules man. I printed out an eighty page thread on SALK speakers and am going to read it after Church tomorrow. He makes Transmission Line speakers and other types from what I gathered at a quick glance. Beautiful cabinetry.

Raymond Leggs: We're cool! I didn't get it. My fault. Rest easy. Help me out with some suggestions for speaker system - 5.1 with 4 FS, a CC with no rear port, and a small to medium sub.

progprog: ********** supposedly has a family discount deal with DENON. Buy speakers from ********** and get 10% off of a Denon product. You have a dream system. The Denon AVP-A1HDCI is plain truth amazing! What speakers do you own? I'm awestruck after reading the DENON website AVP-A1HDCI info and specs. You did not go on too long .......you could have kept on going. Damn, I'm impressed.

Thanks guys,

Your friend,

Eddie

Dali does have a limited amount of dealers. There are only 2 in the entire state of Illinois. Luckily both are within 30mins of my house. You might want to check out Funks speakerquest thread. Between him and my recent additions we might have auditioned upwards of 40 speakers. Could be a good place to build an audition list from.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=995082

ChicagoTC:

Appreciate the heads up about the Dali threads. I'll go there now.

Eddie

I actually just bought some Acoustic Zen Adagios.... in Red, no less :) I can't vouch for their performance in a HT setting, and I've only heard the "fullsize" adagios, but I believe that they are very good speakers for the money (hence why I bought them :) )

Anyhoo, best of luck on your quest, and good luck with everything.

Chris