I was thinking of purchasing an LCD, but I'm now leaning more towards a plasma because of the better picture, but I would also be gaming on it.

I've read through a lot of posts already and it seems like answers are spread out all over the place.

So I figure I would do is start a post with either YES or NO replies. I'm assuming I'm speaking for a lot of people by starting this thread. Please don't post anything except a YES or NO answer along with the model plasma you have.

The question is probably obvious...

Have you ever experienced burn in with your plasma because of gaming?

Remember, YES or NO answer with the model plasma you have.

TIA

No. Panasonic 42PX60U.

One of the many plasma, gaming, burn-in threads. Hope that helps

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1008810&highlight=gaming+burn

One of the many plasma, gaming, burn-in threads. Hope that helps

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1008810&highlight=gaming+burn

I've already seen that thread, thanks.

Please, re-read my post.

Panasonic 6Uy - NO(Mostly gaming 70-80%)
Panasonic 8UK - NO
Pioneer 1140 - NO
Pioneer 1540 - NO
Panasonic 58700u - NO
Nec 42 ED ? Model - NO(Only used for gaming)

No. Samsung 4254

YES

Plasma does burn in search in other forums as well. I've had it happen to me (thankfully got it replaced) last year (06) but this year's panasonic is doing fine right now.

Burn in is a physical trait of Plasma you can't get around it you can only be careful

True, I usually stretch all SD content but occasionally use the gray bars. Even then I have a bit of burn in. Anyone that games on their plasma has no right to complain if they get burn in

No!

Panasonic TH-42px60u: No.
Panasonic TH-50pz700u: No.
Plan on getting a Panasonic 85u soon and will game on it without worry.

NO. Pioneer PDP-5080HD

My previous two plasmas suffered from image retention, not burn-in, but the 5080 has yet to even present any sort of IR. I use it primarily for gaming...

Pioneer 5080- No burn in.
10 days old 6 hours of cod yesterday with no hint of burn in. By the way I replaced my 40xbr2 with the 5080 720p with no regrets, get the plasma.

No. Panny PZ77u. Occasional IR but no problem whatsoever

maybe.....btw great thread:rolleyes:

Pio 5080 and Pansonic 42PX60U....NO problems with either set.

the minor precautions you have to take initially are well worth the benefits of plasma PQ. even the best LCD available can't rival a decent plasma, IMO.

No. Pioneer 5010FD

panasonic 50pz700
pioneer PDP-6010FD

i have both of these sets and don't see any burn in whatsoever

No. Pioneer 1150HD. I use my ps3, 360, and wii on it regularly.

NO............... Panny 58PX600U :)

My teenage son and I both game on it. Him more than me. No burn in.

No - Pioneer 5010FD
No - Pioneer 4280HD

Image Retention Yes. Samsung 5084

No, Pioneer 5070HD. 2-3 hour sessions on a regular basis.

No Pioneer PDP-5050HD

Been playing nothing but Hot Shots golf the last 2 days without a hint of IR

All I can say is check this link:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13432623#post13432623

He had a similar problem to answer and here is his conclusion:

"
No offense to anybody, but I'm going LCD.

I'm sorry that it seems odd the the IR went away after some time with the break in DVD, but it did. I'm simply not willing to do that after every gaming session. See ya's in the LCD section!"

Honestly, everyone will talk about IR and not burn in, but what it comes down to is if you can stand having to "even out" your IR after playing games.. be my guest.. but what an annoyance.. everytime you do something normal like play games or watch 4:3 content you have to run some sort of IR burn in DVD or watch full 16:9 content to get the IR to go away.

It's a lot of hassle..

I'm the guy in that with that Panasonic plasma.

Panasonic told me that IR and burn in ARE issues, to play NO games until 100 hours of break in time, and to limit my gaming sessions to 1-2 hours even after then 100 hours of break in time. On top of that, PANASONIC told me that IR and burn in are STILL possible after 100 hours of break in with the picture at 0, and are in no way covered under the warranty.

It's fixed now, my TV is "perfect" and it looks spectacular. The picture is AMAZING. I can't get over how beautiful this TV is. But I'm headed to exchange it for an LCD tomorrow morning.

For ME, and my TV using habits, it's not worth the hassle I've been through since Monday, and apparently the hassle never subsides. Game an hour or two... watch a DVD or two... game an hour or two... watch a DVD or two... and still possibly wind up with problems. I want a car that cranks up every morning an takes me wherever I want to go, not one that tells me that I've driven it to work 2 days in a row, so for the next two days I have to drive it to the mall in order to drive to work the following 2 days. I can't live with a TV that basically does the same thing.

I can't tell you how much I hate coming to this conclusion, because again, this is the most amazing TV I have ever seen in my life. If I could afford to do so I'd keep it and use it for TV and DVDs in the living room and buy an LCD to game on in the bedroom... but I can't, so I won't.

As soon as I can afford to do so I will likely buy a bigger Panasonic plasma and put it on DVD duty in the living room. I like the TV THAT much. If I'm anything, I'm now a Panasonic plasma "fanboy."

This whole situation is like having to put down a dog you love because he's rabid. You love the dog, but in the end you know he's going to die.

I'm the guy in that with that Panasonic plasma.

Panasonic told me that IR and burn in ARE issues, to play NO games until 100 hours of break in time, and to limit my gaming sessions to 1-2 hours even after then 100 hours of break in time. On top of that, PANASONIC told me that IR and burn in are STILL possible after 100 hours of break in with the picture at 0, and are in no way covered under the warranty.
.............
This whole situation is like having to put down a dog you love because he's rabid. You love the dog, but in the end you know he's going to die.

That analogy is way over the top. You're putting your dog down because the vet told you that if you don't do everything perfectly, feed him on time, have cold clean water at all times, always bathe him, walk him three times per day, have a nice fenced in yard.... then he's going to die. So you're putting him down. :D

Honestly, if you aren't comfortable then you need to make the change. But you are making yourself uncomfortable. The manufacturer is always going to cover their rear.

Samsung 4254, and no.

No offense to anybody, but I'm going LCD.
We get it...you don't like gaming on a plasma. If you're not here to respond to the OP by posting if you game on a plasma, get burn in or not, and which plasma it is then move on.

Panasonic plasma, 58pz700u--no burn in and no IR after the first week or two.

I game on it using my PC and my PS3.

i pulll 8 hout gaming shifts from time to time on my Fujitsu. No burn in. Mind you once in a while if I am playing the same game time after time I will shift the screen position so the static images dont even have a chnage for image retention.

pioneer 5080 - NO - tons of gaming, no IR or burn whatsoever
samsung 4254 - NO - lots of gaming as well (although not quite as much as the pioneer), again no IR or burn in

This is from Samsung's support site.

Burn-In Warning
Yes, plasma TVs are subject to screen burn in.

If you have a plasma TV, we recommend that you limit your viewing of stationary graphics and images, such as the dark side-bars on nonexpanded standard format television programs, stock market reports, video game displays, station logos, web sites, and computer graphics and patterns to no more than 5% of the total television viewing per week.

Displaying stationary images that exceed the above guidelines can cause uneven aging of Plasma displays that leave subtle, but permanent burned-in ghost images in the Plasma picture. To avoid this, vary the programming and images you watch, watch mainly full screen moving images, and avoid stationary patterns or dark bars. On Plasma models that offer picture sizing features, use these controls to view different formats as a full screen pictures.

Pioneer PDP-5080HD. No burn in or IR. Games and ESPN for hours at a time.
Hitachi 42HDT52. No burn in or IR. I haven't gamed on it much since I got the Pioneer.

discopaul, it is pretty well known that Samsung plasmas are more prone to IR than some other manufacturers. Having personally gamed on Hitachi, Panasonic, Pioneer, and Samsung plasmas, I can say that only the Samsung had any sign of IR and that it went away within several minutes of watching regular television. The Samsung that displayed this temporary IR was a HP-S5073.

Panasonic 50PX77u - Several 2-4 hour sessions of Call of Duty, Mass Effect, Gears of War, Halo per week starting from day 1. No IR. Certainly no burn in.

Thanks mods... :rolleyes:

All I can say is check this link:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13432623#post13432623

He had a similar problem to answer and here is his conclusion:

"
No offense to anybody, but I'm going LCD.

I'm sorry that it seems odd the the IR went away after some time with the break in DVD, but it did. I'm simply not willing to do that after every gaming session. See ya's in the LCD section!"

Honestly, everyone will talk about IR and not burn in, but what it comes down to is if you can stand having to "even out" your IR after playing games.. be my guest.. but what an annoyance.. everytime you do something normal like play games or watch 4:3 content you have to run some sort of IR burn in DVD or watch full 16:9 content to get the IR to go away.

It's a lot of hassle..



I guess in all your excitement you failed to read how it turned out. ;)
It was someone who let's just say jumped to conclusion.


Pioneer 5080 -- NO
Samsung 5084 -- IR, but no burn-in

Panasonic TH-42PX80U

IR = Yes, horribly. I just boxed up said TV to return it.
Burn In = I don't know, I'm not going to keep it long enough to find out. Panasonic says yes, it is possible.

Panasonic, the manufacturer of the TV... and I'm assuming they know more than I do... says that gaming is safe after 100 hours of break in with the picture set to zero. One to two hours of gaming, followed by a DVD or a couple of hours of TV before another one to two hours of gaming.

Panasonic, the manufacturer of the TV... and again I'm assuming they know more than I do... also says that even if the TV is broken in for 100 hours with the picture set to zero and gaming is limited to one to two hours, that IR and burn in still very well may result and aren't covered in any way, shape, or form by warranty.

I guess in all your excitement you failed to read how it turned out. ;)
It was someone who let's just say jumped to conclusion.


Pioneer 5080 -- NO
Samsung 5084 -- IR, but no burn-in

It was IR... but read my above post... it's going back unfortunately.

They have to cover their butts.
I played 4+ hours on my Samsung 5084 and Pioneer 5080 and never got more than IR which was wiped within a movie's time.
I did wait ~150 hours to play any games though.
And I suppose different panels of the same t.v. can react differently.

Pioneer 5070HD

Not a hint. I did go a bit overboard on break in, about 300 hours, but seemed to make sense for less than a month to have a set a bit less prone to IR.

I am not a heavy gamer by any means, but I have never even seen a hint of IR. From all the threads I have read, also had a similar concern of the OP, Pioneer does seem to have very few problems in this area, at least the 7th and 8th gen ones.

Hope that helps your peace of mind.

Doug

But you also don't have as good of PQ, nor the motion handling.
Jump through hoops to enjoy, lol.

I had the Sammy 5054 for 9 months...It had IR but not Burn In.

Now have the Pioneer 5080. Dont notice either.

Both sets had the same type of break in. Not a break in dvd but just lower than normal contrast levels and very limited black bars from wide screen for the first 100hrs.

Probably fairly premature for me to comment since I've only had my new tv for 5 days but:

No - TH-50PZ85U

I have done quite a bit of breaking it in though.

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