My hard drive went dead in my vip722 what the best way to fix this. is there an image that i can download.

many thanks

My hard drive went dead in my vip722 what the best way to fix this. is there an image that i can download.

many thanks

Do you own it? If not, Dish will send you another one. If you own it, see my PM.

Ted

My Vip722 is suggesting (via on-screen message) that I connect a phone line to the unit to avoid a $5.00 monthly charge. What are the real intentions behind this connection?

My Vip722 is suggesting (via on-screen message) that I connect a phone line to the unit to avoid a $5.00 monthly charge. What are the real intentions behind this connection?

The real reason Dish wants you to plug in the phone line is so it can charge you when you watch PPV. Of course, you can pay the fee, and use the phone to order PPV: it is up to you. It also can keep track of the health of your DVR, make sure software upgrades go well, etc.

Alternately, with the 722, you can plug it into a home network and take advantage of some upcoming features, such as remote programming which will allow you to record content on your DVR by programming it via a website. Going the home networking route will also remove the $5 fee.

Ted

My Vip722 is suggesting (via on-screen message) that I connect a phone line to the unit to avoid a $5.00 monthly charge. What are the real intentions behind this connection?

It's their way of knowing that your receiver is being used at your address, rather than stolen, pirated, etc at another location.

As mentioned by the above poster, you can also connect it to your broadband internet instead.

Any other uses or advantages for having this dvr hooked up to a home network? Is there any way to play (and discretely record) any programming on your pc?

I have a few questions about connecting this dvr to an external hard drive. How much recording time do you get for different size drives?

I know the manufacturer says that the 722 does 350 hrs of sd and 70 hrs of hd; but no one outside the engineering department knows the storage capacity of the drive as expressed in bytes; all they know is hours of recording time. Conversely, no one at Dish customer service knows how many hours I'll get with different size drives.

All they can tell you is that the 722 can connect to a hdd that's minimum 40gb and max 750gb but not how much recording time you get with either.

I've heard everything from approx 1 hr per gb; to about 300 hrs on a 100 gb drive; etc.

The 722 has a 500 GB hard drive. For MPEG2 encoding it takes up to 10 GB per hour of HD recording. I believe the 10 GB per hour is if an OTA station is using the maximum 19.4 MBPS data rate. Since many use less than that many times it only takes about 8 GB per hour. With MPEG4 from satellite it appears to take about 4 GB per hour of HD.

My 622 which has a 320 GB hard drive has 20 GB reserved for one hour of live recording on the two TVs. That leaves 300 GB for storing saved programming. Dish claims that it records 30 hours of HD. However when I delete a one hour MPEG4 program it only adds about 25 minutes to the available recording time.

Hope this helps.

Rick R

The 722 has a 500 GB hard drive. For MPEG2 encoding it takes up to 10 GB per hour of HD recording. I believe the 10 GB per hour is if an OTA station is using the maximum 19.4 MBPS data rate. Since many use less than that many times it only takes about 8 GB per hour. With MPEG4 from satellite it appears to take about 4 GB per hour of HD.

Hope this helps.

Rick R

Rick R, thank you very much. This is huge for me.

How did you find out this info about the 722? I really beat up on half a dozen csr's and two csr supervisors. They said only the engineering dept knew, and that there was no way to contact them for the answer, etc.

The most reliable answer I could get was from one Dish employee who said that his fellow csr supv has this set up at home (722 w/ ext hd) and he believes he gets 300 hrs with a 60gb drive. My gut told me that was a bit much.

Here is a quick list of shows and sizes from my USB hard drive:

LOST (1 hour, MPEG2, 720p): 5202MB (ABC OTA)
The Office (30 Minutes, MPEG4, 1080i): 2535MB (NBC LiL)
The Office (30 Minutes, MPEG4, 1080i): 1108MB (TBS-HD)
Torchwood (1 hour, MPEG2, 1080i): 5231MB (HDNET)
Battlestar Galactica (1 hour, MPEG4, 1080i): 3462MB (SciFi HD)
Lawrence of Arabia (4 hours, MPEG2, 1080i): 11898MB (HDNET)

Hope this is enlightening.

Ted

How did you find out this info about the 722? I really beat up on half a dozen csr's and two csr supervisors. They said only the engineering dept knew, and that there was no way to contact them for the answer, etc.

Dish Network has Technical Forums and Charlie Chats on the second monday of the month at 9:00PM ET on channel 101. There is typically one Tech Forum and one Charlie Chat a quarter. The Charlie Chats are a one hour show of the Dish Network CEO Charlie Ergen and one other guy talking about the Dish Network Service. The Tech Fourms are also one hour and there are two Engineering Managers that talk about Technical Issues. They give out this kind of technical information.

Both programs also take live and emailed questions.

My experience is that much of the show is boring but there is also lots of good information if you like to know the technical stuff behind the satellite service.

Rick R

I would like to connect my 612 and 722 to my wireless network.

I would like to run my broadband connection to my dish network recievers to waive a $5 per month fee since it is not plugged into a phone outlet. (I do not have a landline i use a cell phone). I have a wireless router. How can I get that signal to my dish network reciever? I dont want to run a long cat5 cable from one room to another. Is there something I can buy that will recieve my wireless signal allowing me to run a short cat5 cable from that device to my dish network reciever?

I would like to connect my 612 and 722 to my wireless network.

I would like to run my broadband connection to my dish network recievers to waive a $5 per month fee since it is not plugged into a phone outlet. (I do not have a landline i use a cell phone). I have a wireless router. How can I get that signal to my dish network reciever? I dont want to run a long cat5 cable from one room to another. Is there something I can buy that will recieve my wireless signal allowing me to run a short cat5 cable from that device to my dish network reciever?

If you can plug one of them into the router, you can conceivably use the built-in HomePlug functionality to let the 2nd receiver connect to the first through your electrical wiring. The downside is you need a compatible power strip or UPS if you want to use one of those.

Another alternative is to use one or more wireless bridges, like this one from LinkSys: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&cid=1134692497433

Ted

I would like to connect my 612 and 722 to my wireless network.

I would like to run my broadband connection to my dish network recievers to waive a $5 per month fee since it is not plugged into a phone outlet. (I do not have a landline i use a cell phone). I have a wireless router. How can I get that signal to my dish network reciever? I dont want to run a long cat5 cable from one room to another. Is there something I can buy that will recieve my wireless signal allowing me to run a short cat5 cable from that device to my dish network reciever?

YES.

answer: Airport Express http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0015YJOK2/ref=pd_luc_mri?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance

is it possible to play your recorded movies that you save on external hard drive on PC?

why is there a limit 750gb max external HD? what's wrong with 1Tb?

If you can plug one of them into the router, you can conceivably use the built-in HomePlug functionality to let the 2nd receiver connect to the first through your electrical wiring. The downside is you need a compatible power strip or UPS if you want to use one of those.

Another alternative is to use one or more wireless bridges, like this one from LinkSys: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&cid=1134692497433

Ted

YES.

answer: Airport Express http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0015YJOK2/ref=pd_luc_mri?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance

Thanks for the replies! I think I may go with the Apple Airport, since I will be upgrading the network to the N standard. I have one computer on the edge of the house that barely connects to my network.

is it possible to play your recorded movies that you save on external hard drive on PC?

why is there a limit 750gb max external HD? what's wrong with 1Tb?

Not at this time. Some folks have reported getting 1TB drives to work.

Ted

Not at this time. Some folks have reported getting 1TB drives to work.

Ted

Where I can read more to confirm that?

How bout viewing the recorded movies on external HD onto HTPC?

Where I can read more to confirm that?

How bout viewing the recorded movies on external HD onto HTPC?

Sorry. I was answering your questions in order. I do not know of a way to view the recorded movies on a HTPC at this time. I'll PM you a link to the other.

Ted

I have ATT internet with a modem/wireless all-in-one. Where and how would I plug it into my 722 receiver? What benefits will it give me?

I have ATT internet with a modem/wireless all-in-one. Where and how would I plug it into my 722 receiver? What benefits will it give me?

You would need to run an ethernet cable from the 722 to the modem/wireless all-in-one somehow. The only benefit at this time is that the phone line is no longer required. In the future Dish plans to offer Internet-based scheduling which would require the ethernet connection.

Ted

Hi, just been reading over the other posts here. I just connected the CAT5 cable to my system. I see lots of new programming available thru dish online. I was able to create a name for my receiver to schedule events online but it seems that is still being worked on. My reason for posting is I notice several people are trying to save the $5 as they only have internet and no phone line. A simple fix is to get a phone line, not thru the phone company but thru magic jack. I have one and it works ok most of the time. They cost like $40 upfront and $20 a year. Thats a lot less than the $5.00 dish charges a month and I have had no trouble with my 722 or 625 both of which are hooked up thru the magicjack. Hope this gives someone an Idea.

Do you own it? If not, Dish will send you another one. If you own it, see my PM.

Ted

Do you have a technical fix for the Non-Booting vip722's? I have two of them here now & have no way of getting Dish to replace them.

Hoping this forum is still alive. A few questions.

I have a ViP 722 receiver. If I hook up an external hard drive, pay the $40 to activate it, I know I can move recorded content to the external hd.

Question 1: If I were to copy an .avi file to the external hd from my computer, move the external hd to the ViP receiver, would I be able to watch the .avi file? Basically, may I use the ViP receiver with an external hd as a media server? I understand the file system is extfs but am unsure what audio/video codes the media server will play.

Question 2: I have 3 HD TV in my house. The ViP 722 plays HD to one of the TVs. How much is it going to cost me to get HD to my other 2 TVs? Is it cheaper go cable? What about AT&T's service?

Thanks!

Yes, this forum is still alive. See my answer in the other AVS forum.

Hi folks, has anyone experienced any shenanigans from Dish after buying their own receivers? I just grilled the CSR and she told me I could keep my current programming. This would save me $17 per month (with local sales tax that is $216.75 per year.) I was told even though I have two receivers, I would only pay my current $6 monthly DVR Service fee. New VIP722s are $254.99 free shipping on eBay right now. The savings would pay for two VIP722s in two years and four months. That means I would own my DVRs several times over by now. In my experience they are pretty reliable.

Does anyone else own their own?

I own my own 722 and lease two 612's. It does not matter whether you own or lease; the new exhorbitant "additional receiver" fees must be paid regardless.

Your highest-tier receiver will become your primary receiver and cost nothing unless it's a DVR in which case your account will get dinged $6/mo. Exceptions are the 922 which costs $10/mo instead of $6, and the 501/508 DVR receivers which are grandfathered and do not incur the DVR fee at all.

Additional receivers cost you as follows: Receivers providing outputs for a single TV: $7/mo or $10/mo if it's a DVR. Receivers providing two independent outputs cost $14/mo or $17/mo if it's a DVR.

I don't like this fee structure either. Dish has become the pig they used to accuse the cable industry of being. Their http://dontfeedthepig.com domain name is long since abandoned.

Additional receivers cost you as follows: Receivers providing outputs for a single TV: $7/mo or $10/mo if it's a DVR. Receivers providing two independent outputs cost $14/mo or $17/mo if it's a DVR.Thanks for replying Krell. I should have posted in the other thread, but didn't find it until after I had posted.

Right now I am paying the $17 lease fee for a 622 and a 722. On my monthly statement it is listed as "HD Duo (2TV) DVR Receiver."

But if I owned my own I wouldn't pay that would I? Do you pay $10 monthly for both of your 612s? + the $6 monthly DVR Service fee?

Yes, you will pay that $17 whether you own it or not. The price is the same either way.

Yes, you will pay that $17 whether you own it or not. The price is the same either way.I don't doubt it, but I grilled her pretty hard and she said definitely "no."

$10 monthly for both of your 612s? + the $6 monthly DVR Service fee? Correct. Been that way since Feb 1 when the new feejacking occurred.

Your CSR was totally and completely wrong. If you had a copy of this exchange somehow (online chat?) then you might be able to talk somebody into giving you what they promised. But this is definitely not Dish policy at the present time.

Correct. Been that way since Feb 1 when the new feejacking occurred.

Your CSR was totally and completely wrong. If you had a copy of this exchange somehow (online chat?) then you might be able to talk somebody into giving you what they promised. But this is definitely not Dish policy at the present time.I did indeed save the chat transcript. She said I wouldn't have to pay the $17 "HD Duo (2TV) DVR Receiver" fee.

You're still leasing your 612s. ?? So you still have to pay. That makes sense according to what you have said.

the DVR so called service fee is actually a dvr leasing fee. whomever said you still have to pay the dvr fee if you own your equipment is mistaken which is exactly what Dish wants. They strive to avoid wide knowledge of this. riddle me this: so you have to pay Tivo and Dish to make a tivo dvr work?!?! besides all that i know personally as I now own a 722 vs. the 612 i leased and now do not have the dvr fee yet am fully able to record. I pressed customer service hard to get correct answer and even better was service tech who admitted the fee was simply because equipment was not mine. Remember Dish wants people to NOT know this so often they may insinuate the exact opposite of what I am saying.

A question i have never gotten answer for is what is truly the maximum size for external hard drive? For the 722 it has changed over the years from 500 to 750 to 1TB now yet I am suspecting nothing with 722 has changed. Am i incorrect and just suspicious fellow? AND they say on dish site that a external hard drive makes the storage limitless ( i am paraphrasing) yet then go on to say maximum size is 1TB? So confusing aaaargghhhhhhh:eek:

I have seen that 1.5 TB works just fine several times.....

She said I wouldn't have to pay the $17 "HD Duo (2TV) DVR Receiver" fee. You do not have to pay this fee on your first receiver. You would only see this fee if you have more than one duo dvr. This is why it's called an "additional receiver fee". ;)
You're still leasing your 612s. ?? So you still have to pay. That makes sense according to what you have said. Yes, but I could own them just as well, and I would still pay the same additional receiver fees, namely $10/mo each. This is what my bill has shown since Feb.

You do not have to pay this fee on your first receiver. You would only see this fee if you have more than one duo dvr. This is why it's called an "additional receiver fee". ;) Yes, but I could own them just as well, and I would still pay the same additional receiver fees, namely $10/mo each. This is what my bill has shown since Feb.You're absolutely right according to the conversation I just had with Dish CSR. It wasn't a completely wasted call though as I learned that I can still save $7 per month by downgrading to a 612 since I never need the ability to watch the second [SD] television with my 722. Occasionally the 622's second tuner is watched out in the garage. So I'll swap out my 722 with my 622, then Dish will send me a 612 in place of the 622. Then I only pay $10 per month because it is not a "Duo." Unfortunately, I'll have less recording space than what I am used to. I tend to record things that half the time I never get around to watching. That's the big reason I don't want to pay any more than I have to, but I don't want to go back to watching network television either -- even though I get 20 HD Over The Air channels now. It'll get my bill just under fifty bucks a month with Dish HD Absolute grandfathered.

If recording capacity becomes a problem, I'll either buy an External Hard Drive or replace the internal hard drive with a larger one.

Got my 612 today. Does anybody else think the gnarly red and white sticker on top of every Dish receiver warning that the device has a hard drive inside is borderline bizarre? It came off easier this time because I had some experience from removing them before. Peel off the top clear plastic layer, blot with adhesive remover. Let it sit for a minute and it peeled off mostly in one piece with a razor blade.

Well... Disks that are not rotating have their heads in a "landing zone" and they are fairly robust to shock. Disks that are spinning are far more delicate. A Dish receiver never really goes off, and the disks inside their DVRs are often running, even though there is nothing on the outside to indicate it's doing something.

So I think the warning is appropriate.

So I think the warning is appropriate.They are not appropriate for my home theater. You can move a computer around slowly when it is running, as long as you understand that it has a friable disk inside that is spinning at high speed and will behave like a gyroscope. I mean, why don't we have warnings on all our computers? What about laptops?

Answer to my own question: Because some people are dumb and CSRs have to deal with everything.

I have a broadband ethernet connection to my PS3. I am considering purchasing a ethernet splitter to connect my dish receiver to receive broadband content. Where can I find dish broadband content and what splitter is recommended?

What you want is a "switch", not a "splitter". Plug your PS3, your 722, and the cable from your router into a switch, and you're done. The 722 will detect the connection and enable your Dish Online menu. If it doesn't, then go in and enable the connection in the Broadband Setup menu.

Cisco/Linksys works well. The price is about what I paid:

http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-SF-100D-05-Desktop-Switch/dp/B003AVN1LG

You must be wealthy. I wouldn't pay more than $10 for a 5-port fast-Ethernet switch.

You must be wealthy. I wouldn't pay more than $10 for a 5-port fast-Ethernet switch.Well, that one is $20 so you'll have to buy a book or something else to get free shipping. The Linksys/Cisco switches are smart switches, meaning it doesn't matter if you use crossover cables or not, and they can potentially speed up your network. But it looks like the ZyXEL may do that too! Cheers.

Back to the OP's topic. Somewhere on these threads there is info about a 500 Gb hard drive that will work in these DVRs. Has anyone gotten larger to work? It needs to be a single platter drive.

Somewhere on these threads there is info about a 500 Gb hard drive that will work in these DVRs. Has anyone gotten larger to work? It needs to be a single platter drive.

On other boards I have seen many who are using 1.5tb drives just fine.

Wow. Can you get me the drive ID or link for the 1Tb? I don't think I'll ever need anything bigger in there. I don't watch half of what I record now.

Wow. Can you get me the drive ID or link for the 1Tb? I don't think I'll ever need anything bigger in there. I don't watch half of what I record now.

This one works just fine:

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-External-WDBAAU0010HBK-NESN/dp/B002QEBMB4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293308935&sr=8-1

Oh gotcha. But I was talking about the internals.

Oh, I get it now. It seems that 500gb is the biggest you can use internally and it has to be a direct replacement or it won't work. Do you own your 722? If not, you don't even want to think about messing with the HD or you will own it for full price.

On the Yahoo group dishmod there is a poster "vip622" who periodically posts the list of disk models known to the firmware. There are several 1TB disks on the list, e.g. a WD10EAVS-57. I just happen to remember that one since I have a WD10EAVS... Without the -57 part, it wasn't recognized by my VIP612. :(

My hard drive went dead in my vip722 what the best way to fix this. is there an image that i can download.

many thanks

Hey! I just saw your post and I actually work at DISH and currently there is no way to fix the hard drive, but if you just call in, we can send you another one! You can also connect an External Hard Drive to your rcvr once you get the new one and it will format the hard drive so you can always have your recordings on an external device. We also have other options that will allow you to watch TV any and everywhere. We have a Sling Adapter that you can connect to the rcvr which lets you watch your DVR's on your computer and if you have a smartphone, just download the DISH Remote Access app and you can watch TV everywhere you go! If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask me! :)

-Danielle

Gee Danielle, you have good information, you just need to explain the costs with it like, $40 to activate that External Hard Drive, and $99 to buy the Sling Adapter.

Oh by the way wolfeyes, whatever you have on that original 722 hard drive is gone, provided it is really dead.

Gee Danielle, you have good information, you just need to explain the costs with it like, $40 to activate that External Hard Drive, and $99 to buy the Sling Adapter.

Hey Bobby,

Those are both one-time fees but they do benefit you in the long run. If something happens to the DVR, then you will always have your recordings backed up and if you travel a lot then you will always have the ability to watch your recordings when you are away from home! :)

If you have a Dish 722 with OTA tuner, I have a question. Are you able to get the OTA channels on the second TV using Remote 2? I have tried, and the OTA channels do not appear on the Guide of TV2, but are all there on TV1. I can see all the subscribed Dish channels and the DVR recordings on TV2, but not the OTA channels. :confused:
If you can get them, tell me what I am doing wrong, or how to fix my problem. I could not get Dish support tonight. Busy signals, over and over, ... got on hold once, but got cut off after about 10 minutes wait. :mad:

Dish Network support was really being hammered last night due to the outage of 129...

That said, I have a 722 too and didn't realize this limitation when I bought it. I am suspicious that it could be relaxed with a firmware update, but to date this is the way the 622 and 722 (and presumably the 222) behave. Newer receivers that take the MT2 module have 2 OTA tuners and TV2 can view them live. The rest of us have to start up a recording (from TV1 or Dish Remote Access) before we can view OTA from TV2.

Im thinking of switching to dish & therefore have been reading up and stumbled onto this thread. just wondering what ota stands for so I can understand the jist of this thread. thanks

OTA = over the air ATSC broadcast or tuner for same

You must keep in mind that there are two versions of the 722 DVR. The 722 has one built-in OTA tuner, the 722K requires an add on module that has two OTA tuners, if you want to get over the air TV.

I have a leased 722 receiver (second one that replaced a problem 722 that had heat issues) that I added a Maxtor 750 GB (9NT2A6-500) EHD to about 16 months ago. I paid the enrollment fee for the EHD, formatted it, and saved several programs/movies (probably less than 50 to 75 GB) to it without problems. About 4 to 6 mo. ago, I started to have intermittent problems where the 722 would not recognize the EHD was connected. I was able to intermittently overcome it, sometimes by unplugging power to the EHD and reconnecting, sometimes by unplugging the USB connector and reconnecting. Recently, the diagnostic (when it was recognized) came back as “Unsupported Hard Drive.” Lately, it has just stubbornly refused to even recognize the EHD, so I cannot get it to do anything. The Dishnet CSRs have been uniformly unhelpful, other than to unplug and re-set the system, which I have done numerous times. I think Dishnet changed the software.

Is it possible that I have one of those dreaded multi-disk HDs? How do I tell if a drive has the required single disk or the dreaded multiple disks? Is there any way to recover the programs on the EHD? Can pvrexplorer be used to recover programs? I am a Mac guy personally, but I use a Windows machine at work if there is an OS problem.

I am giving serious thought to changing to Verizon FIOS since I already have their phone and Internet service.

Rich

It sure sounds like your Maxtor is going south. To try and recover what you can (or move them to a new EHD), I recommend booting up a Linux live CD and then plugging it in and see what it "sees". Modern versions of Linux auto-mount and show you the contents. (I was using Fedora 15.) All partitions on that EHD are ext3. You should see a 1GB partition with nothing of interest on it, and then a 500GB partition with a lost+found folder and the DishArc folder, and then additional partitions (500GB max) to cover the whole drive. You can copy the contents of the DishArc folder elsewhere, and e.g. put it back onto a new/replacement disk, once you let the receiver format it appropriately.

It sure sounds like your Maxtor is going south. To try and recover what you can (or move them to a new EHD), I recommend booting up a Linux live CD and then plugging it in and see what it "sees". Modern versions of Linux auto-mount and show you the contents. (I was using Fedora 15.) All partitions on that EHD are ext3. You should see a 1GB partition with nothing of interest on it, and then a 500GB partition with a lost+found folder and the DishArc folder, and then additional partitions (500GB max) to cover the whole drive. You can copy the contents of the DishArc folder elsewhere, and e.g. put it back onto a new/replacement disk, once you let the receiver format it appropriately.
Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I'll definitely give it a try.

Rich

When watching a show you could always press the record this event button. If you started watching from the start of the event it would give you the option of record entire event. Previously if you started watching after the event began you could still back up to where you began watching and record remainder of the event would record from the backed up to spot.

Now however when you do that if still only saves the recording from the live TV spot.

It looks to me that they deleted a great feature.

Rick R

Program guide data just disappears for some reason. This has happened 3 times since the time change. Every entry (except for the current timeslot) shows 'no info available'. Eventually, the data slowly re-populates, but the missing data causes all hell to break loose with the recordings as the timeframes are lost as well as the ability to sense a new show vs a repeat.

Anyone have this happen and/or know why?

Not here. Just in case this is your internal disk dying, try copying everything of value off to an EHD ASAP.

Although you may save $3 or $5 or whatever monthly by switching to the bundled service, any external hard drives that you have been using on the previous account will not be accessible after you change to the bundled one, or vice versa. I spent literally almost $1000 in external hard drives archiving movies, shows, concerts etc, thinking it would save buying the Blu-Ray of them, only to find I'm screwed with no solution after I switched to a telco bundle. One would almost think they could be charged for negligence to inform the customer of such facts. Very, very disappointing.

It's enough for me to consider changing to a digital HD C-Band dish and the providers (169time and one other, I think) who used to modify the receivers to record to external D-VHS or hard drive, at least that setup shouldn't have that problem. Could only pay for the channels you wanted to watch, also. Of course, you could only record one channel at a time unless you used multiple dishes or from the same satellite. Anyone know if those options still exist? OR, perhaps another way to salvage the programming off those almost $1000 of external drives?

The Dish Internet Response Team can unbundle without changing your account number, thus preserving your external archives. If you're bundling, then I have no idea and I'll take your word for it.

If any of the customer service reps that handled the bundling/unbundling via phone had bothered to tell me, I wouldn't have wasted so much money, enough to buy a decent digital projector. I had already gone from unbundled, to bundled, and unbundled again (recording prodigiously all the way) before finding out, so unless they could do a lot of messing around with things for me to figure which external drives were tied to which service, and then transfer back onto the receiver and then change that to the present service and offload to another external drive, I would lose the present external drive programming that I can access, if that makes sense..

I guess I would be willing to try if they were, I still have the drives I can't access untouched, it would be a lot of trouble, but there is programming on them from several channels that don't exist any more and things that may not be shown again for some time, if ever. I may still have the billing statements to them.

Unfortunately that makes entirely too MUCH sense. I have never heard of Dish going to the trouble of recovering/recreating the account info so that everything is again as it was. Once the account is closed, it's lost and gone forever. That's from what I've read of the DIRT folks over on http://satelliteguys.us.

When watching a show you could always press the record this event button. If you started watching from the start of the event it would give you the option of record entire event. Previously if you started watching after the event began you could still back up to where you began watching and record remainder of the event would record from the backed up to spot.

Now however when you do that if still only saves the recording from the live TV spot.

It looks to me that they deleted a great feature.

Rick R
Now works again.

First I have a 722 with a bad hard drive. Still works fine, just no DVR feature. Its leased. I've heard horror stories about getting replacements that don't work right. Should I deal with Dish or just replace the hard drive myself? I've researched it, found the compatible drives, etc. Is it just a matter of popping a new one in and it configures itself?? Why wouldn't I do that. Costs less than the shipping back and forth to Dish.

Second, I have two HD TVs now, 50 feet apart. A projector using the component out in the living room and TV2 using the coax (SD) in the family room. I want them both to get the same HD signal. I read somewhere that both the HDMI and Component are live on the 722 at the same time. So I bought an HDMI extender from Monoprice and ran two 50 ft Cat5e patch cables to the other TV. Didn't work. No signal. They claim it will do 1080p up to 98ft so I thought I'd be more than within spec at 50ft. Are the adapters bad, or is the HDMI not live when the component is live? I have now way of checking.

First, Dish will replace your defective 722 at no cost to you. The DVR is theirs, not yours, so you don't want to replace the hard drive in it yourself. If you do, you just bought it, they will charge you full price for it when you return it. Second, the HDMI and component outputs are both on at the same time, as you have read. If you had run a 50' HDMI cable to the other TV , it would work.....

First, Dish will replace your defective 722 at no cost to you. The DVR is theirs, not yours, so you don't want to replace the hard drive in it yourself. If you do, you just bought it, they will charge you full price for it when you return it. Second, the HDMI and component outputs are both on at the same time, as you have read. If you had run a 50' HDMI cable to the other TV , it would work.....

I had to really snake the cables through a little opening, in a wall, around the baseboard and a thick 50ft HDMI cable wouldn't have worked. They also make power injected extenders that carry the signal better. I will go that route.