View Full Version : Rogers Digital Cable vs Rogers Analog Cable?


Agon
03-29-08, 10:07 AM
Ok so I realized that my family still had an analog signal on our 32" HDTV and I was wondering if Rogers Digital Cable would give me a better picture on my 32" TV and I also saw online that rogers was promoting the Digital Cable CHEAPER than the analog in my area, so I'm thinking what the hey. Im wondering what you guys think about this and if the Roger Digital Cable is a good move to go into, also does Rogers Digital Cable run at 720p or is it not HD at all, and another thing is I currently split my analog signal from Rogers, and I was wondering if the technician comes over to do Digital on my house and sees that can I get in any trouble?

Tulpa
03-29-08, 10:19 AM
also does Rogers Digital Cable run at 720p or is it not HD at all,

They have HD packages, but from what I see, you have to order it on top of the digital package. The digital cable will probably be 480i.

Agon
03-29-08, 10:35 AM
They have HD packages, but from what I see, you have to order it on top of the digital package. The digital cable will probably be 480i.

How does the digital cable connect? Composite, Component, S-Video? And will the quality be any better than my current analog cable.

Tulpa
03-29-08, 11:44 AM
You'll probably get a set top cable box with a choice of outputs. When I had a standard CRT TV and regular digital cable, I had a box that had coaxial out (same type of cable that comes out of the wall), composite out, and S-video out. When I got an HDTV, I got a box that dropped coaxial and added component and DVI(HDMI).

Now my cable company (TimeWarner) included a few HD channels as part of the digital cable package, but I had to swap boxes to get it. Rogers looks like they do HD separately.

As for quality, I didn't notice a huge OMG THIS ROCKS! type of jump from analog basic that I had way back when. Some channels were a little better. Biggest thing I noticed is that digital had way more channels available.

Agon
03-29-08, 01:14 PM
You'll probably get a set top cable box with a choice of outputs. When I had a standard CRT TV and regular digital cable, I had a box that had coaxial out (same type of cable that comes out of the wall), composite out, and S-video out. When I got an HDTV, I got a box that dropped coaxial and added component and DVI(HDMI).

Now my cable company (TimeWarner) included a few HD channels as part of the digital cable package, but I had to swap boxes to get it. Rogers looks like they do HD separately.

As for quality, I didn't notice a huge OMG THIS ROCKS! type of jump from analog basic that I had way back when. Some channels were a little better. Biggest thing I noticed is that digital had way more channels available.

Yeah rogers does do HD seperately, it sucks :( but soon the big boys are coming to Canada and rogers will need to step up its game with more providers out there so hopefully we will see a few HD channels on digital.

anhthanh
03-30-08, 07:27 AM
im also thinking about changing to shaw digital cable from my regular cable. is thier any picture quality difference on a HDTV ?? or ur just paying for more channels??? casue the digital cable aint taht much more then my regualr cable but i'll have to buy a digital box 1st which cost like 60 - 600 dollars.

Tulpa
03-30-08, 10:42 AM
im also thinking about changing to shaw digital cable from my regular cable. is thier any picture quality difference on a HDTV ??

Standard def on an HDTV is going to be pretty mediocre to poor, digital or not, although some channels aren't too bad. Like I said, some channels are pretty good, and some look no different from analog, so don't expect a HUGE difference.

Now on mine the digital package also provides a few HD channels (along with the locals that I could probably get in the clear through my QAM tuner.) There is a big difference if you're not watching true HD already.

Bottom line, I would say if picture quality is your priority, you may not see much of a gain. If more channels are the priority, then see what the packages offer in terms of what you want. :)

wajo
03-30-08, 02:22 PM
im also thinking about changing to shaw digital cable from my regular cable. is thier any picture quality difference on a HDTV ?? or ur just paying for more channels??? casue the digital cable aint taht much more then my regualr cable but i'll have to buy a digital box 1st which cost like 60 - 600 dollars.
You might be interested in this Lauren Weinstein article titled "Are You Being Cheated by Digital Cable?" (http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000291.html) One interesting section reads:

"The TiVo HD has easily accessible diagnostic modes which clearly spill all the beans relating to these issues. Here in the West Valley (Los Angeles) system of Time Warner Cable, I can clearly see that, at the moment, virtually all basic cable channels in the digital tiers that have simulcast analog (under channel 100) equivalents, are actually being delivered as analog channels, at least to my cableCARDs."

Tulpa
03-30-08, 02:27 PM
Here in the West Valley (Los Angeles) system of Time Warner Cable, I can clearly see that, at the moment, virtually all basic cable channels in the digital tiers that have simulcast analog (under channel 100) equivalents, are actually being delivered as analog channels, at least to my cableCARDs."

Yeah, that's kind of my experience now that I think about it (and I'm in that same TWC area.) The supposedly digital channels that have analog simulcast look the same. The digital only ones look better (although not tremendously so.)

Canon
04-06-08, 01:56 PM
This is a bit of a tricky question to answer but generally I would say you will notice an improvement on some channels since a lot of time you will see random interference on some channels. On digital cable they will all be equally clear, if you do have trouble with your cable connection you may see some pixelation/freezing but I have not had trouble with mine.

I would recommend you spend the extra and get an HD box because even if you don't have an HDTV (which I see you do) you still get a few channels that are in HD (the 500+ channels). This can be viewed via the Coax, Composite or S-Video connections if you have an SDTV. This is a good way to future proof IMHO (especially if you decide to purchase the digital terminal).

I recommend setting the, "Pass through" setting on your digital terminal as in my experience the up conversion that the box does is worse (introduces some artifacting etc.) compared to the up conversion circuit on my TV.

I would reccomend digital cable also because of the Interactive Program Guide (IPG). I love being able to see what is on (or what I am watching for that matter) right on my TV, it's reason enough to get Digital Cable.

If you have enough money, I'd also recommend a PVR. Really cool to be able to pause live TV or just line up a bunch of shows that you like to watch, so you can sit down on the couch any time and enjoy what you want to watch instead of whatever junk is on (infomercials anyone? LOL).

I just got my 8300HD terminal today and it has pretty much every output known to man on it... Coaxial, Composite, S-Video, Component, HDMI video connections, Analog, Digital Coax, Optical audio outputs. So far it seems to be faster than the other Rogers Digital Terminals that I have used (the interface and IPG feels snappier, changes channels a bit quicker as well compared to my Explorer 3250HD).

So basically, yes I would recommend going to Digital Cable. Personally I'd like to see the shutdown of Analog cable to make more room for HDTV channels but sadly we are somewhat behind the US on that. I think I heard something like 2013 and even then Dependant on a certain percentage already being converted to Digital Cable, so who knows.

porchemasi
07-15-08, 09:43 AM
Roger's Digital Cable terminal allows for composite (y, w, r), SVIDEO, and Digital Audio Out
( i use svideo + digital audio cable (black), i get full 5.1 surround on (300+ channels that are true 5.1) picture quality is decent/good on a 46" samsung 1080p lcd

Rogers HD Digital Cable box allows for uhhh component and dvi?