Hi

I just bought a MonsterBass 100 8M cable.

On only 1 of the 2 ends, it has a sticker with an arrow on it. What does that mean?

It also came with a very short Y cable that has 2 female ends and 1 male end. What is this for?

Thanks for any help.

that is the direction the signal flows!!!


Roflmao!

that is the direction the signal flows!!!


Roflmao!

Gimme a break dude! I am new at his :p

what is the short "Y" cable for ?

Gimme a break dude! I am new at his.It really doesn't matter which way you run the cable, but, since it IS labeled, you might as well superstitiously use it as intended.


what is the short "Y" cable for?The Y-adapter is for connecting to both the L and R inputs of the subwoofer (if it has them). Although it is ENTIRELY unnecessary.



And just an FYI, a specifically made "subwoofer cable" is ENTIRELY unnecessary, as well. It is a marketing ploy. Unless there is a problem with electrical interference, all that is really needed is an RCA cable. And if there is interference all that is needed is a shielded cable, which is what you have. But you most likely paid extra for the fact that it is labeled as a "subwoofer cable".

Hi

I just bought a MonsterBass 100 8M cable.

On only 1 of the 2 ends, it has a sticker with an arrow on it. What does that mean?

It also came with a very short Y cable that has 2 female ends and 1 male end. What is this for?

Thanks for any help.

I hope you got a great deal on your Monster. I have a pretty cozy relationship with Monoprice, but your mileage may vary.

That arrow actually does indicate the direction the power should flow. There is an increasing trend to market expensive cables as directional. I am not sure what laws of physics govern direction on a wire? I must have slept through that class.

As to the Y cable, yes it is for adapting an LFE out on the receiver to a L+R on the sub. Some subs have both a L+R input and a single LFE. If you have both options, skip the Y and go straight to LFE. The LFE will not make use of crossover adjustments in the sub and will simply play what is sent from the receiver. That reduces the in-sub processing and should make for a cleaner sound with a lower chance of holes being found in the frequency response.

And just an FYI, a specifically made "subwoofer cable" is ENTIRELY unnecessary, as well. It is a marketing ploy. Unless there is a problem with electrical interference, all that is really needed is an RCA cable. And if there is interference all that is needed is a shielded cable, which is what you have. But you most likely paid extra for the fact that it is labeled as a "subwoofer cable".

Correction - it's a MONSTER subwoofer cable (even better!)

Some subs have both a L+R input and a single LFE. If you have both options, skip the Y and go straight to LFE. The LFE will not make use of crossover adjustments in the sub and will simply play what is sent from the receiver. That reduces the in-sub processing and should make for a cleaner sound with a lower chance of holes being found in the frequency response.And even if there is no separate "LFE Input", all you need to use is one of the sub's L/R inputs.

Correction - it's a MONSTER subwoofer cable (even better!)Well, I wasn't going to go there, too. ;) They make decent cables and CAN be purchased at fairly reasonable prices at some places. But, yes, you pay for both labels with that particular cable. :rolleyes:

I hope you got a great deal on your Monster. I have a pretty cozy relationship with Monoprice, but your mileage may vary.

That arrow actually does indicate the direction the power should flow. There is an increasing trend to market expensive cables as directional. I am not sure what laws of physics govern direction on a wire? I must have slept through that class.

As to the Y cable, yes it is for adapting an LFE out on the receiver to a L+R on the sub. Some subs have both a L+R input and a single LFE. If you have both options, skip the Y and go straight to LFE. The LFE will not make use of crossover adjustments in the sub and will simply play what is sent from the receiver. That reduces the in-sub processing and should make for a cleaner sound with a lower chance of holes being found in the frequency response.


My Sub has two inputs under "Line IN"..."Right" and "Left/LFE"
I will use the Subwoofer Output on my amp and go directly into LFE on the Sub.

What i do not understand is why the OVERPRICED(yes, i got the message...it is the first and will be the last time i buy Monster)Monster cable came with a 6 inch "Y" cable that has TWO female and ONE male end. If the amp has ONE sub output and my Sub has TWO Inputs, then i would have needed the exact opposite, a 6 inch cable with two MALE and one FEMALE end. Right? :confused:

thanks for the help everyone.

What i do not understand is why the OVERPRICED(yes, i got the message...it is the first and will be the last time i buy Monster)Monster cable came with a 6 inch "Y" cable that has TWO female and ONE male end. If the amp has ONE sub output and my Sub has TWO Inputs, then i would have needed the exact opposite, a 6 inch cable with two MALE and one FEMALE end. Right? :confused:

I would assume it is so you can easily split the signal if you have more than 1 sub.

You plug the male into the AVR sub out and connect two separate cables to either two subs or to both inputs on one sub. Or you can run one cable from the AVR sub out, put the Y on the sub end. Plug the male on the Y into the sub in and use the other female to run another cable to another sub.

My Sub has two inputs under "Line IN"..."Right" and "Left/LFE"
I will use the Subwoofer Output on my amp and go directly into LFE on the Sub.That will be fine. Turn the sub's crossover setting up as high as possible (unless it has a crossover bypass setting; if so, use that).


What i do not understand is why the OVERPRICED(yes, i got the message...it is the first and will be the last time i buy Monster)Monster cable came with a 6 inch "Y" cable that has TWO female and ONE male end. If the amp has ONE sub output and my Sub has TWO Inputs, then i would have needed the exact opposite, a 6 inch cable with two MALE and one FEMALE end. Right?:confused:

That's a good question. If it is as you describe, it'd be useless unless you were splitting the amp's sub out in order to connect 2 subs. And then you'd need another cable. Are you sure you know your sexes, Little Johnny? :D

That will be fine. Turn the sub's crossover setting up as high as possible (unless it has a crossover bypass setting; if so, use that).


:confused:

That's a good question. If it is as you describe, it'd be useless unless you were splitting the amp's sub out in order to connect 2 subs. And then you'd need another cable. Are you sure you know your sexes, Little Johnny? :D

the XOVER goes from 40Hz to 120Hz, you suggest i set it to 120?

Yup, i know my sexes, the cable has 1 male and 2 female...i guess it is to split the signal for 2 subs.

thanks again

the XOVER goes from 40Hz to 120Hz, you suggest i set it to 120?I am assuming this is for a HT setup and you are going to use an AVR or pre/processor to do your bass management, correct? If so, turn the sub's crossover as high as possible so that it doesn't interact with the crossover your AVR or pre/pro imposes. As I said, if the sub has some sort of crossover bypass switch, use it. It depends upon the exact crossover setting you will use in the AVR but, ideally, you'd probably want to set it even higher than 120Hz.

What i do not understand is why the OVERPRICED(yes, i got the message...it is the first and will be the last time i buy Monster)It's not so much that Monster cables are over priced as it is more that they are over engineered. They use a high spec solution for a lot spec application.

It's not so much that Monster cables are over priced as it is more that they are over engineered. They use a high spec solution for a lot spec application.

Some of their cables may be over-engineered, but I still think overpricing is by far the larger factor. Some have stated on here that retailers get an 80% margin on the cables. :eek:

Some of their cables may be over-engineered, but I still think overpricing is by far the larger factor. Some have stated on here that retailers get an 80% margin on the cables. :eek:If you mean they have an 800% margin (costs them a dollar, sell it for $8), then it is the retailers that are overpricing. If it is well known that retailers get that kind of markup, then you should be able to negotiate a much better price. Too often and on too many items, we just pay MSRP.

If you mean they have an 800% margin (costs them a dollar, sell it for $8), then it is the retailers that are overpricing. If it is well known that retailers get that kind of markup, then you should be able to negotiate a much better price. Too often and on too many items, we just pay MSRP.

Back in the 90s I used to negotiate and get better deals on Monster Cable, but now with all of the available alternatives I see no point. Also, I believe Monster Cable has MAP or something similar. Your example would be 800% markup. 80% *margin* would be dealer cost of $20 for a cable that sells/retails for $100.

Back in the 90s I used to negotiate and get better deals on Monster Cable, but now with all of the available alternatives I see no point. Also, I believe Monster Cable has MAP or something similar. Your example would be 800% markup. 80% *margin* would be dealer cost of $20 for a cable that sells/retails for $100.I stand corrected. Gross Sales - COGS / Gross Sales = Sales Margin. (100 - 20 / 100 = .8)

In today's economy, if an OEM wants to dictate selling price, then retailers should carry other brands instead. As consumers, we shouldn't take it either.

The local mega Mom and Pop hardware store in my area sells Monster products at reasonable prices. They even sell the speaker cable (several different ones), bulk, by the foot.

Back in the 90s I used to negotiate and get better deals on Monster Cable, but now with all of the available alternatives I see no point. Also, I believe Monster Cable has MAP or something similar. Your example would be 800% markup. 80% *margin* would be dealer cost of $20 for a cable that sells/retails for $100.

We sell Monster and the margin isn't that high...cheaper house brand cables have higher margins than Monster.

We sell Monster and the margin isn't that high...cheaper house brand cables have higher margins than Monster.

Thanks for the info. Like I said, "Some have stated".....maybe they were misinformed. The best deals I ever got as a consumer on top quality, non close-out Monster Cable was around 40% to 50% off.