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lexus2108
04-02-08, 04:48 PM
RCA DTA800B1*

This box is now listed on the NTIA website as being new and having Analog passthrough. It is new to the RCA line up.

https://www.ntiadtv.gov/cecb_list.cfm

I called RCA and after 1 hour on hold and being transfered 5 times. I was told the number that handles the calls KNOWS nothing. They had no info on new box or where to buy it or who to call to get that info. Seems to me VERY POOR CUSTOMER service. imo

Does anyone know the following?

1) When will this box be available?

2) Where will this box be available?

3) How much will it be?

Since there are 7 low power stations in the area and we will loose these stations. We want analog passthru.

We only have RF connectors and no RCA/AV So no by passing.

lexus2108
04-03-08, 11:59 AM
100 views and no one has the answer?

Beaker74
04-03-08, 01:11 PM
It's obviously not available yet in retail channels. I guess you'll have to keep an eye out.

Ally31
04-21-08, 07:58 PM
I am in San Jose, CA, and am unable to find a RCA DTA800B1*.

I wonder when they will hit the stores. Does anyone know?

Thanks!

hphase
04-22-08, 09:40 AM
How can you tell which one you have? I got an RCA recently and I'll be damned if I can find a model designation or build date.

lexus2108
04-22-08, 11:49 AM
How can you tell which one you have? I got an RCA recently and I'll be damned if I can find a model designation or build date.
Sure I can help

800A- No smart antenna

800b- Smart Antenna BUT no Analog passthru

800b1 Smart antenna and passthru (not out yet)

firstsig
05-01-08, 02:10 PM
Sure I can help

800A- No smart antenna

800b- Smart Antenna BUT no Analog passthru

800b1 Smart antenna and passthru (not out yet)
Where did you get the B1 info?

lexus2108
05-01-08, 02:45 PM
Where did you get the B1 info?

NTIA website. on their list

lexus2108
05-01-08, 02:46 PM
plus I called them (RCA)

DTV Reviewer
06-17-08, 02:17 PM
Has anyone ever seen an RCA DTA800B1 for sale anywhere?

viewer29
06-17-08, 02:49 PM
Sure I can help

800A- No smart antenna

800b- Smart Antenna BUT no Analog passthru

800b1 Smart antenna and passthru (not out yet)

From the outside of the box - how can you tell?

I haven't actually seen an RCA in the store, but have made several phone calls to retailers. Of the ones who say they have RCA, they can read off DTA800 but they say there is nothing more after that number. So, no A, no B, no B1.

Are the clerks blind? or is there really nothing on the RCA box that gives the complete model number?

I'm not willing to drive 30 miles to find out that I can't find out if it is the B1.

DTV Reviewer
06-17-08, 03:09 PM
From the outside of the box - how can you tell?

I haven't actually seen an RCA in the store, but have made several phone calls to retailers. Of the ones who say they have RCA, they can read off DTA800 but they say there is nothing more after that number. So, no A, no B, no B1.

Are the clerks blind? or is there really nothing on the RCA box that gives the complete model number?

I'm not willing to drive 30 miles to find out that I can't find out if it is the B1.

You are correct. The outside of the box only says DTA800 regardless of what is inside. You - or the clerk - must open the box and read the model number directly off the bottom of the unit. All I have ever seen is the DTA800B at Wal-Mart. I'm sure all original 800's are long gone as are the 800A's. Only B's now on sale. I'm looking for the B1 with analog pass through - but so far - I've never seen one.

I have a couple of B's - great little box. Trouble free - so far - and the nicest thing is any old existing universal remote control I have had laying around the house will operate all its functions using the standard RCA Cable Box or Satellite codes. Try that with any other unit available - I have never seen any other CECB (Zenith and it's clones, Magnavox and its clones, etc.) that can be operated with a universal remote - unless it's really expensive one or a learning remote where you have to program each function into it. RCA got it exactly right.

DigaDo
06-17-08, 04:03 PM
You are correct. The outside of the box only says DTA800 regardless of what is inside. You - or the clerk - must open the box and read the model number directly off the bottom of the unit. All I have ever seen is the DTA800B at Wal-Mart. I'm sure all original 800's are long gone as are the 800A's. Only B's now on sale. I'm looking for the B1 with analog pass through - but so far - I've never seen one.

I have a couple of B's - great little box. Trouble free - so far - and the nicest thing is any old existing universal remote control I have had laying around the house will operate all its functions using the standard RCA Cable Box or Satellite codes. Try that with any other unit available - I have never seen any other CECB (Zenith and it's clones, Magnavox and its clones, etc.) that can be operated with a universal remote - unless it's really expensive one or a learning remote where you have to program each function into it. RCA got it exactly right.

I have already responded to your observations concerning universal remotes. I have two inexpensive Philips universal remotes (one a standard model and the other a "learning" model, both priced under $10) that I use to control my Zenith CECBs. Both Philips universal remotes use code 0267 to activate the control signals for Zenith CECBs. The 0267 code is listed twice by Philips under Zenith in the SAT/DTV/WebTV, and DVR/SAT Combo sections in their twelve pages of codes.

See these earlier posts:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14094860#post14094860

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14103065#post14103065

holl_ands
06-17-08, 07:03 PM
Couple weeks ago I was in Walmart specifically looking for B1, I'm sure one of the numbers
on the outside of the box said it was a "B" version. Anyone with a box care to chime in....

richardav
06-17-08, 09:17 PM
Couple weeks ago I was in Walmart specifically looking for B1, I'm sure one of the numbers
on the outside of the box said it was a "B" version. Anyone with a box care to chime in....

In my case the main printing on the box only says DTA800, but in small print just below the bar code it does show DTA800B.

viewer29
06-17-08, 11:30 PM
In my case the main printing on the box only says DTA800, but in small print just below the bar code it does show DTA800B.

This is good news. Next time I call I'll have to push the retailer harder to look at the fine print. My 70 year old friend brought me the two coupons he received Saturday and said, "Get me whatever I need, and you can have the other coupon." Yipee - now I don't have to get something I really don't want with my 6/19 expiry coupon.

I want the RCA B1 for him for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is the larger buttons. Pass through is essential or he loses his Sunday afternoon ball games transmitted on a LP translator that is not converting to digital in Feb.

spokybob
06-17-08, 11:49 PM
I could only find a Magnavox today. I'll see if it is a B1 model when the truck comes in on Friday.
(Psst. Hey buddy. Got any coupons?")
EDIT: The young man there says he does not know if a Magnavox or RCA will arrive. They have the same reference number.

richardav
06-18-08, 12:23 AM
This is good news. Next time I call I'll have to push the retailer harder to look at the fine print.

Tell them the model number is printed on the bar code label.

DTV Reviewer
06-19-08, 06:29 PM
Checked with Wal-Mart again yesterday and found out what is usually the case around here (Washington State) - once again - had no RCA DTA800B's in stock. They did tell me they received a letter from the manufacturer apologizing for the lack of production. Demand has been very high and they are sorry for the lack of production but hope to be on track again soon. So keep watching for them. Perhaps the B1's will begin showing up someday soon.

DAVIDBRUCE
06-22-08, 07:38 PM
There is something phony about the fact that the only places on-line that have analog passthru boxes want to sell them for $79 or higher. Supposedly these were supposed to be available in mid June 2008. NO manufacturer's have yet to show up in the low $49-$59 price range.
Walmart does NOT have any pass thru boxes.
There is a quirk in the law that says "only full power TV stations are required to go digital in Jan 09" This means repeaters and low power stations DO NOT have to comply.
The solution to having a non-pass thru box is to put a two outlet splitter before the box and an antenna switch behind the box. This allows you to switch the box in or out of the antenna system. This solution is a lot cheaper than paying $79 for the passthru boxes.
:D

avnstf
06-22-08, 10:15 PM
There is something phony about the fact that the only places on-line that have analog passthru boxes want to sell them for $79 or higher. Supposedly these were supposed to be available in mid June 2008. NO manufacturer's have yet to show up in the low $49-$59 price range.
Walmart does NOT have any pass thru boxes.
There is a quirk in the law that says "only full power TV stations are required to go digital in Jan 09" This means repeaters and low power stations DO NOT have to comply.
The solution to having a non-pass thru box is to put a two outlet splitter before the box and an antenna switch behind the box. This allows you to switch the box in or out of the antenna system. This solution is a lot cheaper than paying $79 for the passthru boxes.
:D

radio shack has the digital stream pass-through on its site for $59

Malouff
06-23-08, 09:47 PM
The NTIA moved the RCA DTA800B1* to the Approved & Available list today.
I guess that means we will be seeing them soon.

How soon is anyone's guess as the DISH Network DTVPal* is also in that section.

I will admit there are some Dish Network Sale Reps do offer to sell but it is like being
at a auction with this converter box. The Shipping charges change on you and so does the price.

cia_viewer
06-27-08, 06:03 PM
This is good news. Next time I call I'll have to push the retailer harder to look at the fine print. My 70 year old friend brought me the two coupons he received Saturday and said, "Get me whatever I need, and you can have the other coupon." Yipee - now I don't have to get something I really don't want with my 6/19 expiry coupon.

I want the RCA B1 for him for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is the larger buttons. Pass through is essential or he loses his Sunday afternoon ball games transmitted on a LP translator that is not converting to digital in Feb.

Magnavox TB100MG9 PassThrough is Klutzy {menu=>analog;button=>digital}
Zenith DTT901 PassThrough is straight forward {CECB-Off=>analog;CECB-ON=>digital}

viewer29
06-27-08, 08:35 PM
Magnavox TB100MG9 PassThrough is Klutzy {menu=>analog;button=>digital}
Zenith DTT901 PassThrough is straight forward {CECB-Off=>analog;CECB-ON=>digital}

Unfortunately as I've posted elsewhere, the DTT901 is unavailable here.

I have a Philco and completely agree with your assessment of the MG9. Only I'd likely use a stronger word than "klutzy". ;)

cia_viewer
06-28-08, 09:22 AM
Unfortunately as I've posted elsewhere, the DTT901 is unavailable here.

I have a Philco and completely agree with your assessment of the MG9. Only I'd likely use a stronger word than "klutzy". ;)


The Insignia NS-DXA1-APT is claimed to be identical to the Zenith DTT901.
My local Best Buy has been carrying the Insignia NS-DXA1 (NoPassThru) and, over the phone, says they will not carry the Insignia NS-DXA1-APT , but is expecting to receive the Apex DT250 , instead, to provide PassThru.

DD210
07-05-08, 06:39 PM
Two days after an RCA technician said the DTA800b1 was unavailable, I walked out of my local WalMart with one in hand. The box is label DTA800b1 and says it has analog pass through. The technician said there are no other changes other than the analog pass through. I have not opened the box to confirm this, but will give an update on it's performance as soon as I've had a chance to use it.

DD210
07-05-08, 07:02 PM
The technician was WRONG. According to the manual, the RCA DTA800b1 now has the ability to add channels not found in the initial scan. Still have not hooked it up, but this puts the RCA back on some people's list.

cia_viewer
07-06-08, 04:41 PM
I do not have an RCA.

My Zenith DTT901 has an excellent thermal design:
1) ventilated with plenty of perforations top, bottom, left & right.
2) metal case (aluminum?)
3) black case for good radiation
I have started keeping it powered up continuously and it stays cool.

How is the RCA DTA800b1?

stk3171
07-06-08, 07:32 PM
Picked one up at Walmart. Hooked it up and works great with passtrough.
Like it better than the zenith 900
Dan

davewilks
07-07-08, 08:17 PM
I just purchased a DTA800B1 using the $40 coupon from wal-mart this morning. The device works great EXCEPT that I am unable to program the STB remote to work with the RCA model T09081BC 9" TV/VCR combo manufactured 1999. I have tried all 30 codes provided in the STB manual for RCA TVs at least two times each with no joy.

This TV/STB combo is in a guest room so I guess I will have to write a little instruction manual telling my guests to use the "little RCA remote" to turn the STB box on and off and to change the channels and to use the "big RCA remote" to turn the TV on and off and to change the volume or the mute the TV.

It seems to me that a company that has been in business as long as RCA should have these issues figured out.

Dave Wilks

MikeBiker
07-07-08, 08:46 PM
RCA has not been a company for many years. It is just a brand.

davewilks
07-07-08, 10:13 PM
Thanks for the correction MikeBiker. I update my post for the benefit of those in the market for an STB: "It seems to me that a 'brand' that has been around as long as RCA should have these issues figured out."

Dave Wilks

DD210
07-08-08, 12:24 AM
I just purchased a DTA800B1 using the $40 coupon from wal-mart this morning. The device works great EXCEPT that I am unable to program the STB remote to work with the RCA model T09081BC 9" TV/VCR combo manufactured 1999. I have tried all 30 codes provided in the STB manual for RCA TVs at least two times each with no joy.

This TV/STB combo is in a guest room so I guess I will have to write a little instruction manual telling my guests to use the "little RCA remote" to turn the STB box on and off and to change the channels and to use the "big RCA remote" to turn the TV on and off and to change the volume or the mute the TV.

It seems to me that a company that has been in business as long as RCA should have these issues figured out.

Dave Wilks
Can the old RCA remote control a satellite box? If so, It might be able to control the box. If not, you can probably find an inexpensive universal remote and still end up paying less than other converter boxes. (Just be sure you can return any remote you buy if it does not work with either one.)

davewilks
07-08-08, 09:28 AM
Can the old RCA remote control a satellite box? If so, It might be able to control the box. If not, you can probably find an inexpensive universal remote and still end up paying less than other converter boxes. (Just be sure you can return any remote you buy if it does not work with either one.)
The remote that came with the TV/VCR is not programmable. But, I had a Sony Directv box that I used with it and the remote that came with DTV box was programmable and worked with the TV/VCR.

I have found two RCA support sites, one for the DTA800B1 and one for RCA TVs. I have contacted each stating the problem hoping for an answer. If either responds with a code that works, I will post it here. Otherwise, I will wait a week or so and if the problem is not solved I will try to find a universal that will work.

Thanks for the response.

Dave Wilks

------------------------------
Update:

Here is what I sent to the support address provided in the DTA800B1 User manual on July 7:

RCA Customer Support:

I just bought an RCA DTA800B1 - Digital to Analog Converter Box to work with my RCA model T09081BC TV/VCR purchased
in 1999. I am unable to program the remote that came with the STB to work with the TV/VCR. I have tried all 30 of the codes that are specified in the user manual at least twice.

Is there a 3 digit code that will program the remote to work with this TV?

If there is not, is there an RCA universal remote that will work with both?

Thank you for your support and making RCA "The most trusted name in electronics".

Dave Wilks

-------------------------

This is the response that I received on July 17:

Dear Customer,

We have try our best to list all the codes in the manual.

Please do not create a new mail for reply.

James
Customer Services
Venturer Electronics Inc.
james@18002526123.com

kumo
07-08-08, 08:34 PM
Thanks for the correction MikeBiker. I update my post for the benefit of those in the market for an STB: "It seems to me that a 'brand' that has been around as long as RCA should have these issues figured out."


RCA stood for Radio Corporation of America, created by General Electric after GE bought out American Marconi. RCA then went on to found the National Broadcasting Company (NBC). After David Sarnoff became chairman of RCA, he engineered the purchase of Victor Talking Machine Company. RCA (Victor) became involved in consumer hardware manufacturing, and that is the company that you recall. In the early days of color television, the two biggest names were RCA and Zenith. Neither company exists as a corporate entity today.

In 1986 RCA was taken over by General Electric and NBC reverted to being a subsidiary of General Electric. The RCA brand for consumer electronics was sold to Thomson SA of France. (Similarly, the Zenith brand was sold to Lucky GoldStar -- now LG Electroniics -- of Korea.)

Thomson SA has been around for awhile, but a brand in and of itself cannot know anything, nor is it able to figure issues out.

That said, we used out government coupon today to purchase an RCA DTA800B1 in Wood Village, Oregon. All things considered, it seemed to be the best use of our coupon, which was due to expire in fewer than ten days. We have not hooked it up to our analogue television set yet, and will report in due course, after we have, about joys and sorrows of the unit.

cia_viewer
07-08-08, 10:06 PM
I do not have an RCA.

My Zenith DTT901 has an excellent thermal design:
1) ventilated with plenty of perforations top, bottom, left & right.
2) metal case (aluminum?)
3) black case for good radiation
I have started keeping it powered up continuously and it stays cool.

How is the RCA DTA800b1?

A while back someone spoke of earlier DTA800s running hot.

Does the new DTA800b1 run hot or is it cooler?

hardly
07-08-08, 10:43 PM
. . .
to purchase an RCA DTA800B1 in Wood Village, Oregon . . .
This evening I checked the Walmart in Wood Village and all they had were DTA800B, no B1's.
Can you share your secret?

kumo
07-08-08, 10:51 PM
This evening I checked the Walmart in Wood Village and all they had were DTA800B, no B1's.
Can you share your secret?
Did you call on the telephone or go in person?

I found a shelf with perhaps a dozen boxes of DTA800's. About a third were DTA800, about a third were DTA800B, and about a third were DTA800B1; they were jumbled together in random order. They all were offered for the same (pre-coupon) price: $49.87 (or $9.87 after coupon). Of course, I selected a DTA800B1, but I did so without assistance from the salesperson.

hardly
07-08-08, 11:41 PM
Did you . . .

Thanks for sharing.

DITTOTEX
07-09-08, 09:34 AM
Is the DTA800b1* remote the same size as the DTA800, DTA800b remote(with big buttons)?

hardly
07-09-08, 10:28 AM
Is the DTA800b1* remote the same size as the DTA800, DTA800b remote(with big buttons)?
Appears identical.

mebbert
07-12-08, 09:49 PM
Are there any indications on the outside of the box.
I really don't want to annoy, pester, ... the people at the store
by opening all the boxes, 40 or so (which All say DTA800B).

Thanks,
Merle

DD210
07-12-08, 10:33 PM
Unlike prior renditions of the DTA800, the RCA DTA800B1 is in a different box. The older units all had "DTA800" on the boxes and only the small type under the SN/bar code had the A or B designation. The new box says "RCA Digital Converter" and has DTA800B1 written on it. It also says "Analog Pass-through" on it. The box is identical on each side except one side is written in Spanish.

EscapeVelocity
07-12-08, 10:54 PM
I bought the RCA DTA800B1 yesterday. Generally satisfied with it. Some thoughts.

Pros

Big Button Remote
Ease of Use/Menus/Setup
Built in swivel out vertical stand
Operating buttons on front of unit as well as remote
Smart Antenna Interface
Numerical Antenna Signal Meter with Audio que as well
Image quality seems good

Cons

Remote seems to want to be directly aimed at the unit to work
Tuner is less sensitive than my Vizio GV42LF
Cant change channels directly in the Signal Meter

Im very curious to learn about directly adding channels without a channel scan.

DD210
07-12-08, 11:00 PM
I bought the RCA DTA800B1 yesterday. Generally satisfied with it. Some thoughts.

Pros

Big Button Remote
Ease of Use/Menus/Setup
Built in swivel out vertical stand
Operating buttons on front of unit as well as remote
Smart Antenna Interface
Numerical Antenna Signal Meter with Audio que as well
Image quality seems good

Cons

Remote seems to want to be directly aimed at the unit to work
Tuner is less sensitive than my Vizio GV42LF
Cant change channels directly in the Signal Meter

Im very curious to learn about directly adding channels without a channel scan.
I don't have the unit available to give exact instructions and I am stating this from memory. Under the setup menu, there is an option to add channels without deleting prior scans. It's the second option. There is no way to add one channel at a time. It can only rescan without deleting prior channels found.

DD210
07-13-08, 11:34 PM
I bought the RCA DTA800B1 yesterday. Generally satisfied with it. Some thoughts
....

Remote seems to want to be directly aimed at the unit to work....

I don't know if it makes any difference or not, but did you remove the clear protective plastic from the front of the unit?

EscapeVelocity
07-13-08, 11:54 PM
I think you may be on to something. :)

DD210
07-14-08, 03:19 AM
Comparison of Zenith DTT901 VS RCA DTA800B1:

The Zenith DTT901 is better overall, but the RCA may be easier for some people. Below are just a few of the more important differences.

Advanced features are accessible from buttons on the remote with the Zenith, but you must use the menu to access these features on the RCA. Someone who is not likely to use any of these features will like the RCA remote better because it has fewer buttons and larger buttons. ADVANTAGE: Zenith (unless you are technically challenged)

On the RCA, buttons controlling the TV are grey and buttons controlling the box are white. The only button on the Zenith to control the TV is a power button. ADVANTAGE: RCA

The RCA remote controls the volume on the TV. The Zenith remote controls the volume output from the converter box. ADVANTAGE: RCA

The RCA's remote control has a very convenient TV input button. Repeated pushing changes the TV channel to 3 then to 4 then to the line input(s). This is extremely useful if you really need analog pass-through. With the Zenith, you must use the TV remote to set the TV to the appropriate channel/line input for viewing programs from the box. ADVANTAGE: RCA

The RCA remote has significantly more TV codes than the Zenith. The Zenith only has 45. ADVANTAGE: RCA

None of the older remotes included with my televisions could control the Zenith. A few of them could control the RCA by programming them using RCA/Proscan satellite codes. ADVANTAGE: RCA

The DTA800B1 has the option to add to previous scans. With the Zenith, you can also add one at a time. ADVANTAGE: Zenith

I like the EPG on the RCA better, but both only show now/next and you must access the menu to view the RCA EPG. When you first change the channel on the RCA; it shows the channel number, what's on now, and what's on next. The Zenith only shows the channel number. Showing what's on now and what's on next helps when you are channel surfing, especially, if there is a commercial running when you first tune in. ADVANTAGE: RCA

The Zenith has more picture modes. This may not be as good for the less technically oriented. Also, I have noticed the Zenith cannot be set to different modes with certain transmissions/stations. This may be the rule rather than the exception when the final digital switch comes, therefore, this potential advantage of the Zenith may disappear. ADVANTAGE: Zenith (for now)

The Zenith color is less vivid when connected via the RCA plug. ADVANTAGE: Neither

The sound output on the RCA is slightly lower when hooked up to the RF cable then when hooked up to the line inputs. I did not notice this with the Zenith. ADVANTAGE: Zenith?

The Zenith appears to have better sensitivity than the RCA. For both units, I did a channel scan on an external antenna. The Zenith showed all channels found with two different old non-amplified antennas. The RCA would not show all channels with one of the two indoor antennas. Disclaimer #1: There may have been a difference in the quality of the signal being transmitted, because there was about a week interval between the time I hooked up the Zenith and the RCA. I did not recheck the Zenith's ability to show the channel on the same day I connected the RCA. Disclaimer #2: I never did scans with an indoor antenna, so I cannot state which unit is better or faster at finding stations during a scan. ADVANTAGE: Zenith?

The RCA needs to be on standby for a clear analog pass-through. If you unplug it, the signal is not as good. I found no difference with the Zenith unplugged or on standby. ADVANTAGE: Zenith

The Zenith has more ventilation and a solidly built metal enclosure. ADVANTAGE: Zenith

The RCA has a swivel out base so you can stand it on its side. This is a significant advantage if you have limited space. ADVANTAGE: RCA

If you are getting the box for someone who is technologically challenged, the RCA may be better. The remote is simple and the viewing modes are limited to a choice between the two screen ratios.

The Zenith seems better built and probably performs slightly better overall, but I still don't like the fact it's remote does not control the volume on the TV. It also includes A/V cables, the RCA does not.
The RCA is a good unit. It's decreased number of viewing modes and friendlier remote makes it ideal for someone who only wants to turn on the television, change channels and adjust the volume on the TV. It does not have a previous channel button on the remote, but most individuals who want just the basic features stated in the last sentence don't use that feature. Of course, none of this matters if the remote cannot be programmed for your TV.

COMMENT: An ideal remote control would have well defined buttons like the RCA, but give the option to control more advanced features. Why not design a remote similar to the RCA, but with a panel you could open to expose other buttons to control more advanced features?

zqxthree
07-14-08, 05:15 AM
Very helpful comparison, DD210. Now if only I could find one online or retail in the Chicago area!

DD210
07-14-08, 10:13 AM
Has anyone observed the following?
The picture of the DTA800B on amazon.com is actually a picture of the DTA800A. The back of the unit shows a punch out where the smart antenna port is on the DTA800B. What's really interesting is, on the back of both units, there is a punch out about the size of an S-video port. I wonder if there will be a DTA800B2?

nwiser
07-14-08, 11:11 AM
I wish I could find these RCA CECBs here locally...but both walmarts I've been to only seem to have the Maganvox boxes...and for some reason the website wont let you see whether its in any other local stores.

I have two older RCA TVs that currently have APEX DT250s hooked up to them...one of them has an S-video port which makes for a decent picture, but the other one doesnt even have composite.

While the DT250 likely has a better picture, at least through the S-video port, the RCA would make things easier for not having to use two remotes(since I know the box remote would control the TVs). Since I have an RCA DVD player and VCR, I could likely use the 4 device universal RCA remote I already have and control them all. Too bad the boxes dont have an S-video port though...that would make them Trump the DT250 for sure,

EscapeVelocity
07-14-08, 01:31 PM
Nwiser, Ill trade you a RCA DTA800B1 for one of your Apex DT250's.

seatacboy
07-14-08, 05:12 PM
The Zenith DTT901 is better overall, but the RCA may be easier for some people. If Smart Antennas finally start showing up in retail stores, the DTA800B-1 may become a more attractive option.

My understanding is that very few of the original DTA800 models were actually shipped (they used a different tuning chip); Walmart mostly sold the DTA800B.

Have others experienced a computer-like "freeze-up" of the DTA800, requiring a shut-down and "reboot"? It was something that afflicted a DTA800B which I bought and returned in March, wonder if this is a common problem?

seatacboy
07-14-08, 05:23 PM
RCA stood for Radio Corporation of America, created by General Electric after GE bought out American Marconi........In 1986 RCA was taken over by General Electric and NBC reverted to being a subsidiary of General Electric. The RCA brand for consumer electronics was sold to Thomson SA of France. In an additional twist, in December 2007 Thomson SA sold off part (but not all) of the RCA consumer electronics business to Audiovox Corporation. This is from a January 3, 2008 press release at the Audiovox corporate web site (http://www.audiovox.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/press.jsp?type=nprev&catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&categoryId=874323&langId=-1&page=&urlString=&productId=&brand=): Audiovox Corporation (Nasdaq: VOXX) announced today that on December 31, 2007, it completed its acquisition of Thomson's Consumer Electronics Audio Video Business outside of Europe, including the worldwide rights to the RCA brand for consumer electronics audio video product lines except TVs and certain additional product categories. Quite a few RCA product packages still identify the manufacturer as Thomson, but in many cases Audiovox is now the legal manufacturer of the RCA-brand product. Here is a web site for RCA-brand audio and video products (http://www.rcaaudiovideo.com/) produced by Audiovox Corporation. RCA-brand TVs sold in the USA (http://tv.rca.com/en-us/televisions.html) appear to be produced by "TTE Corporation".

I know this corporate shuffling has been confusing to buyers of RCA products, particularly to seasoned long-term consumers who recall when the RCA Victor brand was billed as "the most trusted name in electronics". From About the RCA Brand (http://home.rca.com/en-US/RCA-Brand.html),The RCA brand is licensed to third parties for televisions, car stereo equipment, microwaves and accessories by Thomson Inc., the world leader in digital video technologies. For more information on Thomson, go to: www.thomson.net

Here is an RCA History (http://home.rca.com/en-us/PhotoDownloadHistoryLanding.html) site.

Z_MadDawg
07-14-08, 05:25 PM
i just got back from wal mart and they had a few 800b1's, but i just used my coupons for 2 800B's, what am i supposed to do, take them back, say something is wrong and get the b1's?

seatacboy
07-14-08, 05:41 PM
i just got back from wal mart and they had a few 800b1's, but i just used my coupons for 2 800B's, what am i supposed to do, take them back, say something is wrong and get the b1's? Take them back, state you specifically want the analog pass-through model. You don't need to claim the units are defective, they just aren't what you wanted. Walmart is pretty good about accepting returns, in my experience. There is a risk, however, that the 800b1s will be sold out when you actually arrive there. People who read this forum are "on the prowl" for the 800b1.

While Walmart isn't the most elegant shopping environment, their return policies are much more straightforward than other retail stores.

spokybob
07-14-08, 11:36 PM
DD210. Thanks for the great post #48. I have been recommending the DTA for exactly the reasons you state. Would you compare all the various closed caption options for us? I have a concern about the largest available font on the Digital Stream, and perhaps the Zenith is better.

avnstf
07-14-08, 11:47 PM
Take them back, state you specifically want the analog pass-through model. You don't need to claim the units are defective, they just aren't what you wanted. Walmart is pretty good about accepting returns, in my experience. There is a risk, however, that the 800b1s will be sold out when you actually arrive there. People who read this forum are "on the prowl" for the 800b1.

While Walmart isn't the most elegant shopping environment, their return policies are much more straightforward than other retail stores.

It's a little dicey, there, because Walmart will accept returns, but they can't give you back your coupons. The question is, will they allow exchanges for a different product?

ellipsen
07-15-08, 01:09 AM
Does the RCA B1 have box volume adjustment, or ONLY TV volume adj? The zenith has box volume and not TV volume, which is better for my old tv's. Can someone please see if the volume buttons control box based volume output? Thanks!

hardly
07-15-08, 01:19 AM
Does the RCA B1 have box volume adjustment, or ONLY TV volume adj? . . .

The RCA volume adjustment is only TV volume.

seatacboy
07-15-08, 01:30 AM
It's a little dicey, there, because Walmart will accept returns, but they can't give you back your coupons. The question is, will they allow exchanges for a different product? The NTIA rules clearly allow a retailer to allow you to exchange (apply your $40 credit) for another coupon-eligible converter box offered by the same retailer.

kupisch
07-20-08, 07:00 PM
You can buy the RCA DTA800b1 for $59.99 FREE SHIPPING from online retailer http:dtv.bsat.net
they are a NTIA certified online retailer. They also sell the DTVpal for $49.99

DD210
07-22-08, 12:33 AM
So far, I have not experienced loss of audio or freezing up with the DTA800B1. These were reported problems with the DTA800B. I haven't used mine much, but would appreciate hearing from anyone who has experienced these problems with the DTA800B1.

kupisch
07-23-08, 02:14 AM
You can find the RCA DTA 800B1 for $49.99 at online retailer BSAT e-shop (dtv.bsat.net) they also sell DTVpal for $49.99

BSAT is a NTIA certified online retailer for dtv converter boxes.

confuzzled
08-12-08, 01:48 AM
Made several posts a few days ago that I guess no one ever saw. Or if they did, I didn't see the replies.

I don't even remember what the questions were now.

Anyway, just ordered one of these, should be here by the end of the week.

hardly
08-12-08, 03:06 AM
Made several posts a few days ago that I guess no one ever saw. Or if they did, I didn't see the replies. . .



http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/announcement.php?f=186&a=123


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spokybob
08-12-08, 10:08 AM
So far, I have not experienced loss of audio or freezing up with the DTA800B1. These were reported problems with the DTA800B. I haven't used mine much, but would appreciate hearing from anyone who has experienced these problems with the DTA800B1.
I have installed two of the DTA800B1 converters. No reported problems. One person had returned her DTA800B for the new one because of it locking up when it encounted a channel that goes off the air at night.

DTV Reviewer
09-02-08, 09:30 PM
I see on the approved government list the RCA DTA800B1L and DTA809 listed. Does anyone have any initial information on these units - differences from the current DTA800B1 model?

meanderson99
09-03-08, 07:57 PM
Is it possible to reliably control 2 RCA DTA800B1's located in the same cabinet?

martinwj
09-07-08, 10:38 PM
What is the AC Power adaptor output / DTA-800B1 Power input voltage? I want to install it in my Recreational Vehicle and connect directly to the RV's 12VDC supply.

txrose
09-08-08, 02:04 AM
What is the AC Power adapter output / DTA-800B1 Power input voltage? I want to install it in my Recreational Vehicle and connect directly to the RV's 12VDC supply.

The B1 does not use a power adapter. The AC cord comes directly out of the box. No idea what it uses internally.

hardly
09-08-08, 02:49 AM
. . . I want to install it in my Recreational Vehicle and connect directly to the RV's 12VDC supply.

The how to is here:
http://mobiledtv.blogspot.com/2008/04/rca-dta800-in-hand.html

martinwj
09-08-08, 09:13 AM
Thanks for the info,and the how-to. Various sales sources specify that the unit's box includes an "AC Power Adaptor", so I thought I'd ask...

viewer29
09-21-08, 07:09 PM
The RCA's remote control has a very convenient TV input button. Repeated pushing changes the TV channel to 3 then to 4 then to the line input(s). This is extremely useful if you really need analog pass-through.

The RCA needs to be on standby for a clear analog pass-through. If you unplug it, the signal is not as good.



I want to make sure I understand how the 800B1 works. I'm trying to help an 88 year old friend.

In order to put the 800B1 into APT, the above makes it sound like all you do is turn the converter off?

Then you use the channel buttons on the TV remote to tune in the analog station.

Why do you need the Input button in order to use APT?

pm3839
09-21-08, 11:58 PM
Very helpful comparison, DD210. Now if only I could find one online or retail in the Chicago area!

fyi> this walmart had 30 or 40 a few days ago....

Wal-Mart Store #1938
7050 South Cicero Avenue
Bedford Park, IL 60638
(708) 496-0230

not sure tho if they all were DTA800's or B1's

dattier
09-22-08, 02:04 AM
Why do you need the Input button in order to use APT?If you are using A/V cables to connect the converter to the TV, you need to change the TV's input from A/V to RF in order to watch a passed-through analog station.  If you're feeding the box's output to the TV via its RF jack to be seen on channel 3 or 4, then you don't need to change the TV's input.

I don't own an RCA box, but the Digital Stream DTX9950 works similarly.  My problem is that its code for the Funai television where I wanted to use it does on/off and volume up/down but doesn't change its input, so I have it idle on a Daewoo television that is rarely watched but whose input can be selected from the DTX9950's remote.

cia_viewer
09-22-08, 09:30 AM
...

In order to put the 800B1 into APT, the above makes it sound like all you do is turn the converter off?

Then you use the channel buttons on the TV remote to tune in the analog station.

...

That is the way my Zenith DTT901 works.
My cabling between CECB and TV is:
CECB Output to TV =>(RF COAX)=> TV Antenna In REQUIRED
CECB Output Audio/Video=>(R/W/Y)=>TV In Audio/Video OPTIONAL
Using both sets of cables all of the time has worked fine for both Digital TV and APT.

viewer29
09-22-08, 05:59 PM
If you are using A/V cables to connect the converter to the TV, you need to change the TV's input from A/V to RF in order to watch a passed-through analog station.* If you're feeding the box's output to the TV via its RF jack to be seen on channel 3 or 4, then you don't need to change the TV's input.


Thanks for the explanation. Since her TV only has RF that's one less button she'll have to use.

viewer29
09-22-08, 06:21 PM
In order to put the 800B1 into APT, the above makes it sound like all you do is turn the converter off?




I don't own an RCA box, but the Digital Stream DTX9950 works similarly.*

That is the way my Zenith DTT901 works.
My cabling between CECB and TV is:
CECB Output to TV =>(RF COAX)=> TV Antenna In REQUIRED
CECB Output Audio/Video=>(R/W/Y)=>TV In Audio/Video OPTIONAL
Using both sets of cables all of the time has worked fine for both Digital TV and APT.

Her television does not have the A/V inputs, only RF. The connection is easy for any CECB.

As noted for the DS and Zenith, and on both boxes I have, all one does to get to APT is turn them off.

Is this the way it works on the RCA? The only online manual I can find for this unit is not the 800B1.

hardly
09-22-08, 07:43 PM
. . . Is this the way it works on the RCA? The only online manual I can find for this unit is not the 800B1.

Yep.

worstman1
09-22-08, 09:27 PM
Her television does not have the A/V inputs, only RF. The connection is easy for any CECB.

As noted for the DS and Zenith, and on both boxes I have, all one does to get to APT is turn them off.

Is this the way it works on the RCA? The only online manual I can find for this unit is not the 800B1.
Here is the manual for the 800b1 ... put the periods after www and support
www 1800customersupport com/productdocuments/DTA800B1_RCA.pdf

viewer29
09-23-08, 01:49 AM
Yep.

Thanks!

confuzzled
09-23-08, 03:00 AM
Not overly impressed with this box, but I've had some other problems including Ike. Picked up a new antenna and pre-amp from RatShack and will get it in place tomorrow so I'll see if that helps.

tydtv
10-31-08, 03:35 AM
I lost my manuel and had to change my batteries for my 800b1 and i cant reprogram my remote if anyone can post the Quasar codes? So far RCA phone and web have been no help at all. Thanks in advance for any help.

peggy1
10-31-08, 08:05 AM
The codes for Quasar are 040, 051, 070, 125, 179, 187, 254 and 257. The whole list of codes is here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14497167#post14497167

J.Francis
11-01-08, 04:52 PM
Has anyone yet paired the RCA DTA800B1 with an RCA ANT2000 smart antenna? Any performance reviews? I have an RCA ANT2000 paired with an Apex DT502, and the DT502 has many flaws, the worst being that the inability to overscan affects the smart antenna's full capabilites. I know the DTA800B1 has a very long initial scan, which makes me think it will give the antenna more of a chance to lock on to certain signals. If only the LG boxes (Zenith/Insignia) had a smart antenna input! Don't buy the Apex boxes just because of the features (analog passthrough, s-video, smart antenna)...they're not worth it.

DigaDo
11-01-08, 05:35 PM
[QUOTE=J.Francis;14987067 If only the LG boxes (Zenith/Insignia) had a smart antenna input![/QUOTE]

The original draft version of the Zenith DTT900 manual includes the Smart Antenna feature.

dtvinfo
11-12-08, 06:09 PM
A while back someone spoke of earlier DTA800s running hot.

Does the new DTA800b1 run hot or is it cooler?

I haven't seen a answer on this from those that have one...what's the verdict?

systems2000
11-15-08, 12:54 AM
Stopped in to the Hagerstown, MD Wal-Mart tonight and they had about 20 of these units for $49.99

Doc Sief
12-27-08, 01:12 AM
Has anyone yet paired the RCA DTA800B1 with an RCA ANT2000 smart antenna? Any performance reviews? I have an RCA ANT2000 paired with an Apex DT502, and the DT502 has many flaws, the worst being that the inability to overscan affects the smart antenna's full capabilites. I know the DTA800B1 has a very long initial scan, which makes me think it will give the antenna more of a chance to lock on to certain signals. .
I have hooked an RCA DTA800B and an RCA DTA809 to separate RCA ANT2000 antennae with excellent results. The DTA809 seems to have a more sensitive tuner, so generally greater signal strength. The RCA ANT2000 does as advertised, helps tolerate multiplex issues, allows people to walk by it without all the pixilation other antennae used to suffer from, but it really needs to be by a window! I live in Eagan, MN, about 16.5 miles from our Shoreview antenna farm, and get all those stations without difficutly, even the low power Channel 17. More interesting is that Channel 41 (46 miles away in Big Lake) comes in well as well, only 10% signal downstairs and 14% upstairs, but it is a stable picture and sound is good as well. I personally like the DTA809 box better, as can move the antenna and re-scan for just the missing channels.
Living in Minnesota also leads to some fun on 2/17/09 as channels 9 and 11 will return to High VHF, channel 5 will take Channel 11's UHF channel, Channel 45 will go to 45 from 44...etc, in other words, lot's of re-scanning on the big day.

dealerloot1
12-28-08, 10:58 PM
I was searching for this product based on reviews on cnet. Lot of people have been searching for this product or at least seemed that way from a lot of requests for this product. Walmart is carrying this product. You will have to purchase it "IN-STORE". Please note that not all stores have them. I had to go to a 2nd store to find it.

Also there was some confusion about model number. The sticker on the counter shows DTA800 but the cover on the RCA retail box clearly indicates the model number for DTA800B1.

The price for the product is about $50 here in Baton Rouge, LA. But, with tax it comes to about $55. If you have a $40 government coupon it's about $15 to shell out of your pocket.

Good Luck and Happy New Year to All !!

jamesrday
01-19-09, 03:06 PM
I have the DTA800B1 with a Panasonic CT-27G22UV TV. I get the 'instruction' video, but I can't get the box or TV to get any channels.
The manual says to go to the 'No signal' screen and punch in 562. What or where is the 'no signal' screen?
thanks,
Jim

cri123
01-19-09, 05:54 PM
I had/have both the RCA DTA800B and the RCA DTA800B1 and I can confirm that the tuner is a little more sensitive w/ the newer DTA800B1 version given the EXACT same setup. I also have the Zenith DTT901 and I think the tuner of the DTA800B1 may not be quite as sensitive, but I can not be sure. I'm not worried enough about it to check it. For certain, the tuner w/ the Zenith is top notch even if some of the other parts of its design are not the most thought out (on box volume, for example).

Mikp
01-19-09, 11:35 PM
I have a dta800b1 but am wondering if I should get a dta809. On widescreen mode on some stations I get black bars on the sides and top and bottom of the tv not just top and bottom!, switching to another station is quite slow, the color is a bit off and I can't delete useless stations. Did they improve these flaws with the dta809?? I'm going to get a smart antenna because I have lots of weak stations from differnt directions.

Todd76
01-20-09, 12:34 AM
The price for the product is about $50 here in Baton Rouge, LA. But, with tax it comes to about $55. If you have a $40 government coupon it's about $15 to shell out of your pocket.

I'm assuming the sales tax rate is closer to 10% and not 50%. So why do you have to pay sales tax on the $40 the government is paying?

JoeM
01-20-09, 01:51 PM
I have a dta800b1 but am wondering if I should get a dta809. On widescreen mode on some stations I get black bars on the sides and top and bottom of the tv not just top and bottom!, switching to another station is quite slow, the color is a bit off and I can't delete useless stations. Did they improve these flaws with the dta809?? I'm going to get a smart antenna because I have lots of weak stations from differnt directions.

The DTA800B1 only has two aspect ratio settings, letterbox and zoom, even though the government requirements indicate it should have a third full or partially zoomed ratio. Switching speed depends on what you are comparing it to. I think no two boxes are indentical in color. In the Channel List you can set it to skip a channel. I don't have a DTA809. All these boxes have their pluses and minuses. Do you presently have an exterior antenna ?

Mikp
01-20-09, 05:51 PM
Does the partial zoom only letterbox 16:9 and not letterbox + pinstripe 4:3? Thsts really annoying Does it also take going through 5 menu to change? The channel switching is slow compared to analog. I have an internal antenna and can't change that. You're right about the channel skipping method.

Doc Sief
04-11-09, 05:59 PM
I have a dta800b1 but am wondering if I should get a dta809. On widescreen mode on some stations I get black bars on the sides and top and bottom of the tv not just top and bottom!, switching to another station is quite slow, the color is a bit off and I can't delete useless stations. Did they improve these flaws with the dta809?? I'm going to get a smart antenna because I have lots of weak stations from differnt directions.

Hit the menu button, get the channel line up (screen that shows station, what's showing, what's coming up) just to the right of the channel numbers it says 'Stored'. Using the center 4 way rocker on the remote scroll down to the station you want to delete, move to left to high-light 'Stored', hit the center button, and that item changes to 'Skip'.

I personally like the DTA 809 better with the analog pass through.

JoeM
04-11-09, 11:22 PM
... I personally like the DTA 809 better with the analog pass through.

The DTA800B1 also has analog pass through.

yrwei52
04-24-09, 06:29 PM
I see on the approved government list the RCA DTA800B1L and DTA809 listed. Does anyone have any initial information on these units - differences from the current DTA800B1 model?

Our local Walmart stores (North Texas area) just received fresh shipment of RCA DTA800B1L which has been out-of-stock of 3 months. The S/N label is different from before and it included the manufacture date (February 2009) on the bottom of the converter box. They also put a "DTA800B1/DTA800B1L" sticker on the manual to cover up whatever the model number was on there. Don't know what has been changed on DTA800B1L from DTA800B1.

The box is manufactured by AVC Multimedia at Markham, Ontario L3R 1E3. The price is $49.87.