View Full Version : Device Delay Library for Harmony 880
DavidPotter 04-07-08, 03:43 PM The purpose of this thread is to provide a single place for people to search for setting device delays on their Logitech Harmony 880 remote (the official 880 thread is 145 pages long!).
Here are the delays for my devices (sure would be nice if there was a table formatting option).
If there are 4 numbers, they are listed in this order:
Power On Delay, Inter-key Delay, Input Delay, Inter-Device Delay.
If there are 3 numbers, they are listed in this order:
Power On Delay, Inter-key Delay, Inter-Device Delay.
JVC HD-70FH97 TV - 10000, 0, 1500, 400
Toshiba HD-A20 HD DVD player - 1500, 0, 200
DISH Network DISHPVR508 Receiver - 2000, 0, 200
Denon AVR-5600 - 1500, 0, 1000, 200
Monoprice HDX-401E HDMI Switcher - 500, 0, 200, 200
Xbox 360 - 1500, 0, 0
Zalman HD160XT Media Center PC - 1500, 0, 500, 200
These settings seem to work pretty well for me, meaning I haven't encountered any problems and the devices seem to be responsive to the remote.
Feel free to post the delay settings on your devices. Depending on how much work it is, I'll either just let the replies speak for themselves or roll them all up into this post. Let me know if you have a preference.
Beerstalker 04-08-08, 02:23 PM This is a great idea, although it should theoretically be the same for all Logitech remotes, not just the 880, so you might want to change the name of the thread so others don't feel left out:).
It might also be a good idea to include the repeats/responsiveness numbers too (from 0 to 5). It can usually be found by saying "my device responds too many times or not enough" or something like that.
eatonjb 04-17-08, 05:02 PM please .. explain the difference and reason for all 3 numbers? the last 2 actauly slightly confuse me!
Beerstalker 04-18-08, 03:45 PM Power on delay is the amount of time it takes for the device to turn on and start accepting IR commands. On most electronics when you first turn them on if you hit other buttons to quickly the device will not respond to them. This delay helps to keep that from happening.
The Inter Key delay is the amount of time that your device needs in between button presses. If you press two buttons to quickly sometimes the second button press, or both will get ignored. By increasing the delay you can keep this from happening. By decreasing the delay you can make your remote more responsive.
Input delay is kind of like the Power On delay. It is the amount of time it takes your device to start responding to commands after you change inputs. For example on DavidPotter's TV if he changes from Input 1 to Input 3 he has to wait 1500ms before he presses another button for the TV to recognize the next command.
Inter-Device Delay is the amount of time it takes a device to recognize that the IR command it is receiving is not meant for it, and move on to the next one. If you send out an IR command with your remote all of your components will see it. It takes a while for them to check it against their programming and see what they are supposed to do. If the command does not match anything in their programming they ignore it and move on. However if you send a command to that device while it is still checking an earlier command from another device both will be ignored. By increasing the Inter-Device delay you give the component enough time to realize that it can ignore that command and move on to the next one.
Finally the other number I mentioned is the Resposivenss/Repeat number. When an IR remote sends out a command it sometimes repeats the same code a different number of times so the device can be sure to recognize it and respond. Some devices only need to send the command once, while others may repeat the command up to 5 times. Sometimes if your repeats are set too high your component may respond to a single button press multiple times. For example pressing channel up may cause the TV to go up two channels instead of one. By reducing the number of repeats you can avoid that problem. Other times your device may not recognize the command at all because it did not see all of it, so by increasing the number of repeats you will make it easier for the device to see the command and respond to it correctly.
These are all settings that Harmony allows users to adjust to maximize the speed and minimize the chances of errors when using their remotes. DavidPotter came up with the great idea of users sharing their delay settings so everyone doesn't have to go through the tedious trial and error it takes to maximize these settings. It takes a lot of updating/testing/updating/testing etc, etc. to get these numbers maximized so by doing this we can all save some time. So if you have any of the same devices that DavidPoter has, you can enter his numbers into your Harmony settings for those devices and it can speed up the response of your remote. Sadly I do not have any of the same devices he does so I am going to have to maximize all of my components on my own (I will probably use his HD-A20 numbers as a starting point for my HD-A3 though since they are similar units).
Beerstalker 04-23-08, 01:29 AM Here are the items in my theater that I have been able to figure out so far.
Hitachi 57F59A TV - 5500, 100, 2000, 500 and repeats set to 0
DirecTV HR21-700 High Def DVR - 900, 0, 0, and repeats set to 0
Toshiba HD-A3 HD-DVD Player - 35000, 0, 0, and repeats set to 0
One thing I wanted to mention about Power On delays is, they are only really needed if you tell the device to do something right away when you start an activity. For example switching inputs on your TV or receiver, or hitting the guide button so it is automatically up on the screen when you first start your DVR. However, if you don't automatically send any more commands to your device when you start an activity, you can actually set your power on delay to 0 without messing anything up. For example, I do not send any extra commands to my HD DVD player after the power on command is sent. So rather than have my power on delay set for 35000 ms I set it to 0. This way my start activity sequence is shorter and the backlight doesn't have to stay on so long. Another example would be my DVR. If I didn't want to automatically bring up the guide every time, I could set my power on delay back to 0 to speed that activity sequence up also.
slamduncan 06-10-08, 07:00 PM Hi there.. I haven't done too much with this tv but my harmony 880 had the defaults set to:
2800,0 800,500
this was causing the first power on to keep the 'starting activity' screen on for a lot longer than it needed to be
I changed to
500,0,500,500 and so far so good...
thanks for pointing me to this thread Beerstalker
*****EDIT*****
someone pointed this out to me in another thread
while the 500 will work sort of, it's not long enough for it to select the correct source. you can't select the source until the initial info box at the top left goes off. i have mine set to 16000, which will switch the source of the activity immediately after the top box disapears, 15000, would only work sometimes, so far, 16000 everytime
Bressler 07-05-08, 05:38 PM I have a Sharp Aquos LCD (LC-65D93U)
I needed to set the power on delay to 9000 to get it to work reliably.
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