Just bought Juno on BD. It comes in two discs. One is a dvd the other is the BD. On a mac, you load the dvd disc and it takes you to itunes, where the itunes stores loads up and you have to enter the serial number which im sure locks the copy to that registered version of itunes.

Same deal on a PC.

Thats all the time I got now. But it literally copies the file to your itunes library and you can do what you want from there.

Any questions....

My question is did you go to grammar school and what the hell are you talking about and how is it related to Blu-Ray or more specifically PlayStation? You are talking about DVD and iTunes.

While it may not be directly related to PS3, it's certainly related to Blu-ray.

Thanks for the info

My question is did you go to grammar school and what the hell are you talking about and how is it related to Blu-Ray or more specifically PlayStation? You are talking about DVD and iTunes.

Insult the guy over his grammar. I hope you don't fall off your high horse of proper grammar.

It is PS3 related, sort of. Referring to this:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/24/ps3-2-20-update-to-offer-portable-copy-of-blu-ray-films-to-psp/

It wasn't clear before how this would work. Thanks for the details.

My question is did you go to grammar school and what the hell are you talking about and how is it related to Blu-Ray or more specifically PlayStation? You are talking about DVD and iTunes.

Weird, you write horribly yourself.

My question is did you go to grammar school and what the hell are you talking about and how is it related to Blu-Ray or more specifically PlayStation? You are talking about DVD and iTunes.

First off hemingway, I dont know how off my grammar was, but if you could correct it in red and grade me ill appreciate it.

Next, it has ALOT to do with this forum. People who own a PS3 and a PSP can now have a digital copy of the movie alongside their bluray. Alot of BD are being packaged with 2 discs. One being a DVD and the other the BD. Since the dvd can be played in SD it also contains the copy and or access to the digital copy. Thus eliminating people from ripping the dvd in the first place.

Bottom line. check out that link above. Thanks for the defense guys, diddnt know someone with over 1k posts would be an ass.

JUST TO CLEAR UP SOME CONFUSION:
That engadget aticle was partly true. The BD doesnt actually hold the digital file. It is packaged on a seperate disc (an SD dvd) that comes alongside the BD. This elminates the problem of people renting BD just to copy the digital file off the BD. I was at BlockB today and the case for Juno had just the BD version in it. The lady told me thats how they are going to handle BD w/ digital copies by not giving out the SD dvd. Which makes sense.

I think this topic is very relevant to this forum.

First off Hemingway, I don't know how off my grammar was, but if you could correct it in red and grade me, i'd appreciate it.



I'm only going to do one sentance.
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sentance

Wow, you guys are hopeless.

I swear you guys dont even kno how to spell or use grammer correclry

"First off hemingway,"

I literally lol'd :D

It is PS3 related, sort of. Referring to this:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/24/ps3-2-20-update-to-offer-portable-copy-of-blu-ray-films-to-psp/

It wasn't clear before how this would work. Thanks for the details.

These are separate technologies. Fox partnered with Apple/iTunes. The PSP digital copy thing will work differently. It uses the PS3 to do the copy.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the PS3. The Fox titles are not compatible with the PSP. You can only use them with iTunes, or Windows Media Player.

While like.no.other apparently needs to have some coffee, or get laid before he posts, his comment was essentially correct--this is not the digital copy that works with the PSP without breaking the DRM.

This is not the PSP compatible format that Sony mentioned. Just like you can't move movies purchased from iTunes to your PSP, you can't move these movies to your PSP.


This in no way indicates how the Sony Studios digital copies are going to work. I still contend that those will be on the Blu-Ray disc itself, and will need the PS3 to move the copy to the PSP. This DVD-based copy is irrelevant.

Wow, you guys are hopeless.

holy hell my head hurts from laughing right now... :D

holy hell my head hurts from laughing right now... :D

+1...I think I pee'd a little too :o :eek: :D

+1...I think I pee'd a little too :o :eek: :D

Oh god the office is going to know im not working now from all the laughing they hear at my desk.

But I have a question. When it coppies to your library... is this only for the DVD or does it do it for the BD too? And if it does... does it copy it over in HD?

I'm only going to do one sentance.
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somebody needs a dikshunary! try the liberry

First off Hemingway, I dont know how off my grammar was, but if you could correct it in red and grade me i'd appreciate it.

I'm only going to do one sentance.
;)


Actually it would be I'd don't and sentence (yours). You could also argue that it should be "if you would correct" which would then become "ewed" :) :) :)


So on another note... is the included DVD the whole movie just on a regular DVD ? Could this be used in a standard player or is the disc only accessible by using the iTunes software? Won't people just sell these off ? (even if they have been deactivated via serial for PSP use).

Actually it would be I'd. :)

Keep it up guys...I'm going to send my kids to this thread when they get home from school...lot's of good info ;) :D

... I was at BlockB today and the case for Juno had just the BD version in it. The lady told me thats how they are going to handle BD w/ digital copies by not giving out the SD dvd. Which makes sense.

I think this topic is very relevant to this forum.

i rented "hitman" a few weeks ago from bb, and it had both the blu-ray disc and the 2nd digital copy disc (i didn't copy it; movie was too stupid). i would imagine, at least in the begining, it will depend on your store. some official policy will likely come down from bb hq or direct from the studios in the future.

Wow, you guys are hopeless.

Of course, your quote highlights a spelling mistake, not a structure/grammar error :)

Of course, your quote highlights a spelling mistake, not a structure/grammar error :)


Tru dat Yo !

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NERDS!!!!!!












Just because this thread needed it.

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Post of the month!!!

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^^ Bwaahahahahaha!!!

Post of the month!!!

(Ogre, Ogre, Ogre...)

Nah--Can't be Post of the Month by simply copying a common Fark meme.


Yes, I used the word meme. My Word Fu is strong.

I'm not sure if the Managed Copy will work the same way for the PS3->PSP, I was thought it would just be something off the same Bluray or a downsided rescaled reencode. I don't think studios will get too protective over it as the copy is lower than Standard definition and it's not like DVDs are hard to copy.

haha.....umm to my knowledge the DVD will work in a SD dvd player. Why else would they waste money on another disc if all they needed was a registration code to unlock the movie from itunes.

Now, when I loaded gthe disc into my mac, my dvd software player diddnt load up. But maybe thats just because it was the first time I popped it in. I will try again tonite after work. But it has the DVD logo on the disc but that really dosent tell us much.....

Also, even if blokcbuster had the disc in there, you would still need the registration code to unlock the digital copy. So I guess BluRay wants to do what hd-dvd did and offer both formats DVD and BD, by buying the same movie. Makes sense, if you want to watch it on a laptop or any other portable dvd player....

I could see this whole digital copy thing get crazy soon though, arrrghhh pirates have a new war to fight....

haha.....umm to my knowledge the DVD will work in a SD dvd player. Why else would they waste money on another disc if all they needed was a registration code to unlock the movie from itunes.

Now, when I loaded gthe disc into my mac, my dvd software player diddnt load up. But maybe thats just because it was the first time I popped it in. I will try again tonite after work. But it has the DVD logo on the disc but that really dosent tell us much.....

Also, even if blokcbuster had the disc in there, you would still need the registration code to unlock the digital copy. So I guess BluRay wants to do what hd-dvd did and offer both formats DVD and BD, by buying the same movie. Makes sense, if you want to watch it on a laptop or any other portable dvd player....

I could see this whole digital copy thing get crazy soon though, arrrghhh pirates have a new war to fight....

No, the DVD copy will not work in a DVD player. It's not a combo, it's a digital copy for a portable device--not a dvd version of the movie.

And, Blockbuster does include the digital copy disc--just not the registration code.

Nah--Can't be Post of the Month by simply copying a common Fark meme.


Yes, I used the word meme. My Word Fu is strong.

used in context, anything qualifies! that meme is perfect! :D

No, the DVD copy will not work in a DVD player. It's not a combo, it's a digital copy for a portable device--not a dvd version of the movie.

And, Blockbuster does include the digital copy disc--just not the registration code.

Well, I dont see why they would include an extra disc? So your saying the movie is physically on that extra disc? If so, why did itunes need to connect to the internet to download the Juno digital copy and not take it off my dvd?

Also, if your right its only a matter of time before they just rip the disc and someone can burn that file to a DVD and "sell" "share" it that way....

This thread brightened my morning. Thank you.

what the hell are you talking about and how is it related to Blu-Ray or more specifically PlayStation? You are talking about DVD and iTunes.

pwned. :cool:

if the movie is copied to iTunes, can you watch it on AppleTV?

Ok, so for this particular instance, were you able to use this digital copy on your PSP?

Well, I dont see why they would include an extra disc? So your saying the movie is physically on that extra disc? If so, why did itunes need to connect to the internet to download the Juno digital copy and not take it off my dvd?

Also, if your right its only a matter of time before they just rip the disc and someone can burn that file to a DVD and "sell" "share" it that way....

It doesn't download the movie from the internet, it should just associate/activate the file with your account. The activation is just a basic implementation of DRM.

if the movie is copied to iTunes, can you watch it on AppleTV?

Can't see why not.

Ok, so for this particular instance, were you able to use this digital copy on your PSP?

That would be a negative, no way for the PSP to legitimately play this DRM'd file, at this time.

I are cornfused :confused:... You can't play the DVD in a DVD player? What format is the file on the DVD?

I'm only going to do one sentance.
;)

You're currections wer off to.

You capitalize the word/letter "I" even when used in a contraction. Also, there is no "a" in the word SENTENCE.

kthnx.

That would be a negative, no way for the PSP to legitimately play this DRM'd file, at this time.

What if you convert the file using a video conversion program? Wouldn't that remove the DRM?

What if you convert the file using a video conversion program? Wouldn't that remove the DRM?

I'm pretty sure that's not legal under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, but that whole topic is up in the air on what is legal and what's not. It might not be if you own the product though.

I'm pretty sure that's not legal under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, but that whole topic is up in the air on what is legal and what's not. It might not be if you own the product though.

I think it's legal as long as you own it. Case in point, you purchase a track from itunes in m4a format and it has your account info embedded into it. You convert it in itunes to an mp3 and your account info is gone.

It's basically the same concept.

correct it in red and grade me

Next, it has ALOT to do with this forum.

"Alot" is not a word.

:D

That would be a negative, no way for the PSP to legitimately play this DRM'd file, at this time.

The psp will not play the 'Juno' file. The file is a "Protected MPEG-4 video file"

The codec is h.264, it is 1.12GB in size.

123kbps Bit Rate and Stereo.

I am copying the file to me desktop now and am going to see if I could export it

The psp will not play the 'Juno' file. The file is a "Protected MPEG-4 video file"

The codec is h.264, it is 1.12GB in size.

123kbps Bit Rate and Stereo.

I am copying the file to me desktop now and am going to see if I could export it

OK, so that confirms that this DVD and the "Blue Ray Digital Transfer" are two entirely different things...

Managed Copy is part of the Blu-ray spec but it is not finalized yet (actually it's part of AACS, which isn't final).

No current shipping Blu-ray player has the official AACS "Mananged Copy" feature. What some studios have done is include an extra disc (it's a computer DVD disc, not a video-player movie DVD disc, it simply contains data) with their own DRM system designed for iTunes/WMP or whatever. Usually it's a standard-def (or lower) version of the movie. But again, this is NOT Blu-ray "Managed Copy".

The idea (well, one idea) with Managed Copy is that you can copy the FULL High-Def resolution version, with DRM intact of course, to a media server type thing - possibly even the PS3, with a large enough hard disk attached... if they ever decided to include a program like that on the PS3... But since current BD players only have the interim AACS spec, they will have to be updated (or replaced...) in order to use Managed Copy. (Another idea is the "portable" res version, similar to the above, or even making a hard Blu-ray disc copy).

I'm not really sure what the situation with currently released pressed discs is - they may or not be compatible with Managed Copy. Of course it's up to the individual studios whether or not they support Managed Copy - and what kind it is (full res, "portable" res, and whether or not they charge a fee for it) for each specific disc...

What if you convert the file using a video conversion program? Wouldn't that remove the DRM?

Would probably be easier, and get better results, if you just ripped the actual DVD at that point.

The idea (well, one idea) with Managed Copy is that you can copy the FULL High-Def resolution version, with DRM intact of course, to a media server type thing - possibly even the PS3, with a large enough hard disk attached... if they ever decided to include a program like that on the PS3...

That would be great. I'd love to (legally) copy my high-def movies to the PS3 so I don't have to switch discs.

How does the digital code work? Can you only transfer it a certain number of times? Does each disc have its own personal code? If it's a generic code that all discs share, can you find the code on-line and rent these movies from BB or HV and transfer the digital copy to your computer?

I only ask out of pure curiosity of course...not that I would ever participate in or condone such an act :)

Every disc has its own code, and that code will only allow one iTunes user to unlock the file, hence the need for internet connection. The file is contained on a DVD-Rom, not a DVD, and that's why it will not play in a DVD player. Also, it is an MPEG-4 file, specifically designed to play on iTunes, AppleTV, iPod and iPhone. Hope that answers some questions.

Can you unlock it on multiple computers with the same itunes account?

yes, but there is a limit on the number of machines that can access the same iTunes account. 5, I believe.