I don't want to sound bitchy but I just found out my order for GT5 Prologue that I placed MONTHS AGO, may not ship for a while through Amazon.com. I did not order last week, or the week before, or the week before, and so on and so on. WTF??? Can you tell I'm not a Sony fan? I'm not!!! I hate their position in regards to DRM, but the PS3 is the best AV gear I've ever purchased! Thumbs way Up!!! I just don't understand how they couldn't or DIDN'T purchase the use of more duplicating units to get this title out on time for us!

Sony was also the second gunman on the grassy knoll. It's a known fact.

I didn't see them there, as I wasn't there. I do think that they should do a better job of meeting demand quicker. This wasn't unforseen and I didn't order recently!

Its not the first time Amazon.com has been late shipping games. I don't pre-order from them for that reason. Sorry I do understand your pain though...

William, thank you for your post. I didn't realize Amazon wasn't reliable for on time shipments on games. I've dealt with them for numerous items and have been thrilled. Oh well, live and learn. Thanks for the lesson.

The same thing happened to me when I ordered Patapon on Amazon, I preordered it more than a month before release and I got the game weeks after it was officially released. More than Sony I'd say Amazon sells more than what they know they are going to receive.

I would NEVER pre-order a game I wanted day one through an online store. I would only go B&M.

Sony was also the second gunman on the grassy knoll. It's a known fact.


OMG!!! LMFAO!!!

Ugh this isn't good news, I pre-ordered GTA4 through them. I hate dealing with Gamestop/EB. I guess Best Buy is the next best option.

Talk about overreacting. Amazon listed that they would have it today but they didn't get it today so an automatic notice goes out. The thing is, nobody got it today. You're in a panic over nothing. If they don't get it by tomorrow or Thursday then you may have a case. I fully expect them to get it tomorrow and to ship it tomorrow.

it is apparent that sony didn't realize the high demand for their overpriced demo. i can understand this.

Amazon lists the title as "in stock" on the 17th (despite the listed release date of the 15th). I can understand our excitement, but let's at least wait until the game is out before we start complaining about not having it yet!!

it is apparent that sony didn't realize the high demand for their overpriced demo. i can understand this.Are we still saying this? Come on. Multiple tracks. Two dozen cars. Online and offline multiplayer. Three racing tiers. Drifting and time trial competitions. Leaderboards. Video sharing. Etc. Etc. "Demo" indeed.

With sales as high as they are in Europe (number 1 in software sales for all platforms three weeks running), there's little chance Sony's surprised by US pre-sale numbers.

It's American Airlines fault. Sony was shipping GTP5 to Amazon warehouses via AA. When they grounded the 300 planes and canceled all those flights it backed all shipments up.

It's not Sony or Amazon's fault. ;)

I got the same amazon email. It should ship any day now. Everytime I get an email like that it seems to ship right after.

Sony was also the second gunman on the grassy knoll. It's a known fact.

I always thought it was Solid Snake.

I pre-ordered a game a couple years back from amazon and it didnt ship till two weeks after it was out. That is why i will never pre-order from then again.

I don't preorder from anyone generally. Don't want to be locked in waiting from one resource. I just look through threads to find out what retailer has what I want when it is released. Sorry to say, no stores seem to have it either from what I've read so far so is amazon to blame for this one? I blame Sony also! :)

This is the dumbest ****ing thread I've seen so far today.

:rolleyes:

Ugh this isn't good news, I pre-ordered GTA4 through them. I hate dealing with Gamestop/EB. I guess Best Buy is the next best option.

Me too. :confused:

Are we still saying this? Come on. Multiple tracks. Two dozen cars. Online and offline multiplayer. Three racing tiers. Drifting and time trial competitions. Leaderboards. Video sharing. Etc. Etc. "Demo" indeed.



It isn't the full game, by any means, either. Calling it an overpriced work-in-progress would be more suitable.

But on topic: pre-orders are a scam, plain and simple.

Nothing wrong with letting out some steam! I did so this morning a bit looking for this game at Target on my way into the office this morning. The clerk who admitted he works in that deptartment didn't even know what GT5 was! UNBELIEVABLE!!!! :)

Ugh this isn't good news, I pre-ordered GTA4 through them. I hate dealing with Gamestop/EB. I guess Best Buy is the next best option.

Sometimes those but holes are the only option. My local stores have them already

This is the dumbest ****ing thread I've seen so far today.

:rolleyes:

the day ain't over... ;) :D

It isn't the full game, by any means, either. Calling it an overpriced work-in-progress would be more suitable.

But on topic: pre-orders are a scam, plain and simple.

That's true. The game isn't a demo but you are pretty much paying for a feature-incomplete beta. The thing is, this beta is better and more packed with content than many full priced games.

This is the dumbest ****ing thread I've seen so far today.

:rolleyes:

Agreed.... but....

Sony was also the second gunman on the grassy knoll. It's a known fact.

This is the funniest post I've seen so far today :D !!!

Agreed.... but....



This is the funniest post I've seen so far today :D !!!

then you definitely need to read the BD digital transfer thread! :D

download it off the store...................

download it off the store...................

Not a bad idea...if it does not lock it to that one account (like warhawk). Anyone know if this is the case....?

download it off the store...................

Holy crap! that's right!

you'll have it in your living rooms to DL on thursday which is something to consider a bit more seriously since it is "only a demo" and won't pull much in trade when gt5 actually hits.

the day ain't over... ;) :D

Thus my qualifier.

Relax and play another game....

Holy crap! that's right!

you'll have it in your living rooms to DL on thursday which is something to consider a bit more seriously since it is "only a demo" and won't pull much in trade when gt5 actually hits.


I thought about that, too, but even if it's only $10 in trade when the new version comes out in '09, it's $10. Plus, you get making of docs on the BD, don't ya?

I thought about that, too, but even if it's only $10 in trade when the new version comes out in '09, it's $10. Plus, you get making of docs on the BD, don't ya?

$10 would be huge! but i figure by then people will be lucky to get enough in trade to cover the tax on GT5...

$10 would be huge! but i figure by then people will be lucky to get enough in trade to cover the tax on GT5...

Yeah, but tax is still more than you'll get from trading in the download version. So, there. :p

Although, I have to say that unless there is some shocking revelation in GT5, the Prologue will probably be enough for me, and I'll simply keep it and move on to the other multiple games that will release around the time of GT5.

So, everyone calling this a "overpriced demo," I'd say that it's actually an "early release discount version for the casual GT player." Then, again--I've always proven myself to be a glass half full kinda guy.

Yeah, but tax is still more than you'll get from trading in the download version. So, there. :p

Although, I have to say that unless there is some shocking revelation in GT5, the Prologue will probably be enough for me, and I'll simply keep it and move on to the other multiple games that will release around the time of GT5.

So, everyone calling this a "overpriced demo," I'd say that it's actually an "early release discount version for the casual GT player." Then, again--I've always proven myself to be a glass half full kinda guy.

good call...

i'll also be content with prologue since i'm a "burnout" fan first and new to the whole gt thing...

good call...

i'll also be content with prologue since i'm a "burnout" fan first and new to the whole gt thing...

Me three...

I just feel like rambling on about useless crap after reading this thread. What is the point of pre-ordering? I can't recall the last time a game wasn't available the day it came out.

I've dealt with them for numerous items and have been thrilled.
You are easily entertained. I wish I knew some women that were that easy to thrill. :D

It isn't the full game, by any means, either. Calling it an overpriced work-in-progress would be more suitable.If you're not a fan, okay. But if you are, this is more than just a work-in-progress. I've had a chance to put in a few hours, and after that I prefer to think of it as an hors d'oeuvre. Complete in and of itself, but just a taste of what's to come. If you think it's too expensive, eat somewhere else.

But on topic: pre-orders are a scam, plain and simple.
I just feel like rambling on about useless crap after reading this thread. What is the point of pre-ordering? I can't recall the last time a game wasn't available the day it came out.There's a lot of politics involved in the world of pre-orders.

The retailers with the most clout in the gaming market all do pre-orders. Pre-order numbers are becoming a bigger and bigger determiner of eventual sales. If a game pre-orders well, it will sell well. If it doesn't pre-order well (or much at all), then often those outlets won't even carry it, or will carry it in limited numbers.

This made a game like Zack and Wiki very hard to find for a while. Since it didn't pre-order well, it wasn't stocked. And because it wasn't stocked, it didn't sell as well as it deserved.

It's messed up. Lesser known games stay lesser known because of pre-orders. Certain games are assured to get poor sales because of poor pre-sales. The vast majority of gamers don't stay informed of the gaming world (they aren't on forums and they don't read gaming sites or magazines). All they have is the stores themselves and word of mouth.

I say be sure to pre-order, but try to pre-order games that you think might need or deserve the extra attention. Don't pre-order high profile games. All that means is that the "rich" get richer, and the "poor" stay poor.

This is the dumbest ****ing thread I've seen so far today.

:rolleyes:


The bad part is that you have to qualify it by "today". Im sure we'll see something else by days end. :)

The bad part is that you have to qualify it by "today". Im sure we'll see something else by days end. :)


This one missed it by about 3 1/2 hours. A strong contender for Dumbest Thread of the Week, though. And, I think Gslide is going to get himself knocked into the HOF like Neil Peart in Best Drummer polls, and remove himself from daily contention.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1019863

I just feel like rambling on about useless crap after reading this thread. What is the point of pre-ordering? I can't recall the last time a game wasn't available the day it came out.

Well, I'll explain why I preordered it from Amazon. Sony had a deal that if you preordered it, you'd get $5 off. Combine that with free shipping, and no tax, I save roughly about $8 from buying it in the store.

PS, like I said, way to overreact. If you go to Amazon now, you can order it as it's in stock now. They're shipping out people's orders today. What you got was an automated generated message.

I just checked my Amazon pre-order (with the $5-off deal that Darknight just mentioned) that I placed on April 5th, and it still says shipping on the 21st, with an estimated delivery of 4/28-5/2.

I'll be picking up a copy at Best Buy this afternoon. I'd rather pay the $5 than wait two more weeks.

This one missed it by about 3 1/2 hours. A strong contender for Dumbest Thread of the Week, though. And, I think Gslide is going to get himself knocked into the HOF like Neil Peart in Best Drummer polls, and remove himself from daily contention.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1019863

haven't even clicked on the link yet but the meer mention of gslide getting knocked into the HOF had me rolling... :D

ok, i have to go look for myself now...

I placed my preorder last week with the $5 off pre-order coupon. At the time, if I selected 'free super saver shipping', the ship date was 4/22. Then I noticed if I selected 'standard shipping', the ship date was the 16th. Of course standard shipping is around $5 so that wipes out the $5 coupon savings.

I'm blame Sony for the drastic decrease in my sex life, amount of sleep, and loss of focus at work. Damn you Sony!

I placed my preorder last week with the $5 off pre-order coupon. At the time, if I selected 'free super saver shipping', the ship date was 4/22. Then I noticed if I selected 'standard shipping', the ship date was the 16th. Of course standard shipping is around $5 so that wipes out the $5 coupon savings.
I had to call customer service because when I checked my order online, it had a ship date of 4/21, but said it was "preparing for shipping" and couldn't be canceled.

While talking to customer service, I learned that when you use Super Saver, they wait until they have other orders going to your area, and then ship everything out in a batch, so while my copy of the game was ready to go, I had to wait until they did their bulk mailing. Fortunately, I was able to cancel my pre-order with customer service, and I went to Circuit City and got a copy of the game and a free t-shirt! ^^

[QUOTE=bassmonkeee;13655211]This one missed it by about 3 1/2 hours. A strong contender for Dumbest Thread of the Week. QUOTE]

Wow you're right. Dunno how I missed the whole second half of that page

SO how is this Sony's fault again?

Amazon lists the title as "in stock" on the 17th (despite the listed release date of the 15th). I can understand our excitement, but let's at least wait until the game is out before we start complaining about not having it yet!!

Are we still saying this? Come on. Multiple tracks. Two dozen cars. Online and offline multiplayer. Three racing tiers. Drifting and time trial competitions. Leaderboards. Video sharing. Etc. Etc. "Demo" indeed.

With sales as high as they are in Europe (number 1 in software sales for all platforms three weeks running), there's little chance Sony's surprised by US pre-sale numbers.

hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and it is still my contention that this game is overpriced. especially when gta4 and mgs4 are coming out right after it. relatively speaking, in relation to these two aforementioned titles, it is a ripoff. IN MY OPINION. however, if this was the only thing coming out in the near future, i would pick it up in a second for lack of better options. and yes, i am a huge gt fan. i'm just not a fan of being taken to the cleaners.

edit: just to add, i read on kataku that the online play is broken. that's unexcusable. hopefully they get it sorted out for all that buy this game as it's really the game's best selling point.

and to put it another way, you are paying 60 percent for 10 percent of the full game. how is that not a ripoff?

Well, I'll explain why I preordered it from Amazon. Sony had a deal that if you preordered it, you'd get $5 off. Combine that with free shipping, and no tax, I save roughly about $8 from buying it in the store.

PS, like I said, way to overreact. If you go to Amazon now, you can order it as it's in stock now. They're shipping out people's orders today. What you got was an automated generated message.
I only paid $5.43 for the game from Best Buy, thanks to some reward zone certificates I had. ;)

SO how is this Sony's fault again?

it's not...

it's the OP's fault for expecting a preorder to be delivered to him on time. (ask me again why i never preorder...)

of course the silver lining here is that this thread provided a good days worth of entertainment!

Amazon doesn't charge your card until the item ships, so why not just cancel your preorder and buy somewhere else?

I'm sorry. I'm not a veteran gamer that has a lot of knowledge about game preorders. I have done a lot of preorders with DVD movies and have always had them arrive on time or often earlier than release date. I didn't expect it to arrive on time, just ship out. I know better now. It was wrong of me to assume (it made an ass not out of you, but me) that Sony had an obligation or commitment to fulfill preorders from their top retailers. I will think things through and not jump to conclusions next time.

Mea Culpa

It was wrong of me to assume (it made an ass not out of you, but me) that Sony had an obligation or commitment to fulfill preorders from their top retailers. I will think things through and not jump to conclusions next time.
Sony did their part. The game is sitting in Amazon's warehouses as we speak.

Amazon is just taking their sweet time on actually shipping them out. I'm guessing that you too opted for the free Super Saver shipping? Well, you get what you pay for. ;)

I'm sorry. I'm not a veteran gamer that has a lot of knowledge about game preorders. I have done a lot of preorders with DVD movies and have always had them arrive on time or often earlier than release date. I didn't expect it to arrive on time, just ship out. I know better now. It was wrong of me to assume (it made an ass not out of you, but me) that Sony had an obligation or commitment to fulfill preorders from their top retailers. I will think things through and not jump to conclusions next time.

Mea Culpa

I don't get it. It shipped on time. Stores got their shipments today. Amazon shipped mine today. What did Amazon or Sony do wrong here?

whats the point of even pre-ordering on games? ive only once ever had a near issue of not being able to get a game before it came out and that was for GTA vice city. other than that i can walk in store same day or a day after and get the game no problem.

whats the point of even pre-ordering on games? ive only once ever had a near issue of not being able to get a game before it came out and that was for GTA vice city. other than that i can walk in store same day or a day after and get the game no problem.

I had to go to three stores tonight to get GT5:P. Luckily, they were all within walking distance of the same parking spot. Both Gamestop and Best Buy were sold out--I actually walked past the guy who bought the last one at BB. Target had three copies left.

Not everyone can take an hour to track a game down.

So, that's the point of pre-ordering a game.

This one missed it by about 3 1/2 hours. A strong contender for Dumbest Thread of the Week, though. And, I think Gslide is going to get himself knocked into the HOF like Neil Peart in Best Drummer polls, and remove himself from daily contention.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1019863


Thank you for this post. I really needed the laugh. :D:D

I had to go to three stores tonight to get GT5:P. Luckily, they were all within walking distance of the same parking spot. Both Gamestop and Best Buy were sold out--I actually walked past the guy who bought the last one at BB. Target had three copies left.
Kinda OT, but I was wondering just how well this game was going to do in the states, and it sounds like it's doing pretty well. :)

Kinda OT, but I was wondering just how well this game was going to do in the states, and it sounds like it's doing pretty well. :)

I'm just glad that it's no longer the case where I go in at 6pm and they never bothered to put the games on the sales floor and I'm the first to ask for one. Now, they sell out before I get there. Good thing I've pre-ordered almost everything I want for the next couple of months....

I was just at Gamestop. No GT5. I did pick up a DS3 controller. Mine has shipped out today from Amazon. Once again, sorry for the lame ass thread. I'm old enough to know better than to jump to conclusions! No more overendulging in the fine spirits before posting!!!

I had to call customer service because when I checked my order online, it had a ship date of 4/21, but said it was "preparing for shipping" and couldn't be canceled.

While talking to customer service, I learned that when you use Super Saver, they wait until they have other orders going to your area, and then ship everything out in a batch, so while my copy of the game was ready to go, I had to wait until they did their bulk mailing. Fortunately, I was able to cancel my pre-order with customer service, and I went to Circuit City and got a copy of the game and a free t-shirt! ^^


Thanks for that info. I just called Amazon myself but they would not let me cancel, even though the ship date is not for another 6 days. I'll just send the game back when it arrives, since instead I picked it up at Best Buy after work. So much for Amazon and preorders.

My GT5 from Amazon shipped today, should be here on the 18th. FWIW I got it through Prime, and I didn't even put the preorder in until a couple of days ago.

it's not...

it's the OP's fault for expecting a preorder to be delivered to him on time. (ask me again why i never preorder...)

of course the silver lining here is that this thread provided a good days worth of entertainment!

Yes, and that was directed towards the OP, though I did forget the quotes. ;)

well,
i didn't mean to bash to OP... it's just that a thread title like "i blame sony!" makes someone seem high maintenence. ;)
he admitted he hasn't had much experience with pre-orders so i guess the lesson here is not to jump to quick worst-case-scenario conclusion. i always tell the GS pre-order nazi's that i don't like to pre order because i may be in a different area of town on the day it's available and want to pick up [?title?] at the first convenience.

anyway, run4two, i hope you get your game soon. my only point was i know how much of a PITA preorders can be because you run into waiting for someone else to get you the game, rather than being able to pick it up at your leisure.

I went to Target last night to see if I could find any of the closeout stuff mentioned on another thread. We didn't find any PS3 closeout deals for PS3, but I got a few nice items for my PSP. Oh, and they had GT5 for sale. I didn't get one, we have enough new games to keep us busy for a while.

I went to Target last night to see if I could find any of the closeout stuff mentioned on another thread. We didn't find any PS3 closeout deals for PS3, but I got a few nice items for my PSP. Oh, and they had GT5 for sale. I didn't get one, we have enough new games to keep us busy for a while.

The Target that I found GT5:P had the Orange Box for $41.98. I might have to go back and pick it up. I'm intrigued by the little cube and I don't even know why.

edit: just to add, i read on kataku that the online play is broken. that's unexcusable. hopefully they get it sorted out for all that buy this game as it's really the game's best selling point.



How so. I played online last night about 15 races. 1 race I was disconnected from the server. And two more I got server time outs after the matchmaking. The other 13 or so races were fine. YMMV