View Full Version : MGS4 Beta ready for download (1 day early)
Chris Rein 04-24-08, 08:15 PM Looks like we're getting closer!
I just got update 1.02!
Came down SUPER fast. Had almost instant 200 down and up.
The interface has changed a bit, meaning you no longer sign in before you get the connection error. Before, you signed in, and then got the Playstation Connection Error message. Now, the message is in game, and you just "Start Game" it then goes to the User Agreement and then right after you say yes, it goes directly to the server connection screen.
So close!
Slacker George 04-24-08, 08:21 PM Looks like we're getting closer!
I just got update 1.02!
Came down SUPER fast. Had almost instant 200 down and up.
The interface has changed a bit, meaning you no longer sign in before you get the connection error. Before, you signed in, and then got the Playstation Connection Error message. Now, the message is in game, and you just "Start Game" it then goes to the User Agreement and then right after you say yes, it goes directly to the server connection screen.
So close!Thanks. Did you you use P2P or HTTP?
number1laing 04-24-08, 08:23 PM I just went on MGO... it didnt say anything about 1.02... I got the same Could Not Connect To Server error I was getting last weekend.
Chris Rein 04-24-08, 08:24 PM Thanks. Did you you use P2P or HTTP?
P2P
There were at least 12 to 13 connected to me and vice versa.
Uploading a crappy camera phone pic of the version now.
What's messed up is my buddy logged in after I told him about it, and nothing for him. Weird.
watsonte 04-24-08, 08:26 PM Looks like we're getting closer!
I just got update 1.02!
Came down SUPER fast. Had almost instant 200 down and up.
The interface has changed a bit, meaning you no longer sign in before you get the connection error. Before, you signed in, and then got the Playstation Connection Error message. Now, the message is in game, and you just "Start Game" it then goes to the User Agreement and then right after you say yes, it goes directly to the server connection screen.
So close!
Hmmm, I dont have any prompt to update so...not sure how close we are really getting
Chris Rein 04-24-08, 08:27 PM I just put up a pic in my Gallery.
I have a projector and my camera phone didn't like the darkness.
Here's the link.
http://gallery.avsforum.com/showfull.php?photo=28306
I'll go take one now of the in game connection error...
watsonte 04-24-08, 08:29 PM I just put up a pic in my Gallery.
Here's the link.
http://gallery.avsforum.com/showfull.php?photo=28306
Well, I believe you got the update, but I am not certain as to how...
Currently I have the prompt to input my GAME ID and then the 000999FFF or whatever error.
Chris Rein 04-24-08, 08:41 PM Well, I believe you got the update, but I am not certain as to how...
Currently I have the prompt to input my GAME ID and then the 000999FFF or whatever error.
I have no idea either. I log in every night just to see if anything changes. Earlier in the week, you couldn't even input your ID. It showed a new delayed until Friday Message. Logged in tonight 7:35PM Central and it prompted for v1.02 update. Said yes, and off to the races we went.
watsonte 04-24-08, 08:43 PM I have no idea either. I log in every night just to see if anything changes. Earlier in the week, you couldn't even input your ID. It showed a new delayed until Friday Message. Logged in tonight 7:35PM Central and it prompted for v1.02 update. Said yes, and off to the races we went.
Well, hopefully that means things are up and running on Konami's end and we have the entire weekend to enjoy the beta...
Chris Rein 04-24-08, 08:44 PM I added more in the gallery.
Here are the highlights...
http://gallery.avsforum.com/showfull.php?photo=28308
http://gallery.avsforum.com/showfull.php?photo=28310
http://gallery.avsforum.com/showfull.php?photo=28307
watsonte 04-24-08, 09:03 PM Well, able to download it now...
Finally, I guess the east coast gets things a little later?
Chris Rein 04-24-08, 09:03 PM Update...
Now I can get past the User Agreement and enter in my GameID and Password.
This time, I can hit enter, but now I get the server connection error in the Playstation screen.
Crazy!
It's like there's 2 barriers. One after the UA screen, the other after ID. Before, when I got the 1.02 update, I couldn't get to the login screen, but it gave me server connection in game like before. Interesting. Progress? Because technically it's Beta time in Europe now. Maybe that's why we were a day earlier for the download?
Fingers crossed. :)
Edwin430 04-24-08, 10:54 PM everyone remember to seed for others.. don't just quit, I'll probably leave mine on over night since I'll be on COD4 on my 360..
sigh, I'm trying to get the first update .. 32% but no seeds.
Guitar Hero 04-24-08, 11:47 PM Took 10 minutes with P2P with an average of only 50kb/s. Installed in seconds. Got get it now!
BrianEK 04-25-08, 08:29 AM tried logging in this morning and still no dice. got the message saying it can't find servers again.
After all three fricken downloads and two hours playing, the games crap.
I can see why Activision canned the 4rd person COD game.
watsonte 04-25-08, 09:08 AM After all three fricken downloads and two hours playing, the games crap.
I can see why Activision canned the 4rd person COD game.
Two hours playing? I haven't tried to sign on yet today, but I also havent seen to many reports of servers being up either.
There's three servers up for Euro beta. 900 players on one (full) and about 600 on each of the others.
Maxconsole.net are reporting the Euro servers have been up for 3 hours.
watsonte 04-25-08, 09:18 AM There's three servers up for Euro beta. 900 players on one (full) and about 600 on each of the others.
Maxconsole.net are reporting the Euro servers have been up for 3 hours.
Ah, alright, Euro beta...
I assumed you were referring to the US beta.
i am playing metal gear online now for about 1 hour.
and i have to say. graphics are poor. COD4 has way better graphics.
however the sound. metal gear has way better audio.
on thegameplay front. running as a madman like in cod4 wont get you anywhere. you really have to team up and work your way.
the controls take used too. for example i had the subgun.
and it is like press R2 for using the gun. then you can chose betwene square and triangle how to zoom in. it is a bit confusing.
also triangle is also used to give orders. and that is what i like . if you have a bit of experienced team you can give commandos with your hand. and you see your charchter waving with the hand. like now it is clear to go. run forward etc.
so for teambased playing this could be great. so far i have like 2 kills and was killed 10 times. so lot to learn and also there is many stuff in it.
also servers are setup like with pro evolution soccer. you chose what you which server and hop on to it.
also sometimes it says server full when trying to login. but you will get their anyway.
more impressions later got to work
however the sound. metal gear has way better audio.
I disagree there. I think the music is better in MGO, but the sound effects are better in COD4.
TyrantII 04-25-08, 09:34 AM Remember people, this isn't a FPS.
Think of it more along the lines of a 3rd person team based simulator. It's meant to rely heavily on team play, not individual running around shooting like most fps.
There are pure death match levels, so it's not always geared around team play.
TyrantII 04-25-08, 10:10 AM There are pure death match levels, so it's not always geared around team play.
of course, every game includes that.
But it's obvious that isn't the main focus of this gameplay style.
emulsionman 04-25-08, 12:12 PM Just played for ~45 min during my lunch break - Deathmatch and Team Deathmatch
Controls are kind of rough if you are used to the MGS setup
Also, there seems to be a delay from when you shoot or hit someone that is kind of weird - not sure if this is a connection problem or lag but is screwed me up.
You can also create clans and join clans from the menu, however you have to log at least 5 hours of play and be at level 2 create a clan.
Anyone care to create a AVS clan?
RobertR1 04-25-08, 02:07 PM Played this for about an hour before I came into work this morning.
It's not a pretty game and certainly doesn't run at 60fps. The guns have no feel to them, like in BF:BC beta. The whole 2 options to shoots is confusing but it's something you can get used to over time. A sprint button is certainly needed. Also, it's trying to be a tactical shooter without a cover system? I mean you pullup walls and it gives you a traingle indicator, you hit it and the guy salutes the wall?
The shooting and being shot at needs to do a better job of informing the player. The melee setup is annoying! Give me shooting from the hip when I pull the trigger not some some stun with the gun. Use another button for that please.
Overall, it's not nearly as polished as the GRAW games or RB:6 vegas as a tactical shooter and certainly can't touch CoD4 for a faster paced gameplay. It seems hard trying to be both but getting lost in there somewhere.
I'll give it another couple of hours but so far there's nothing that wants me to go home and play it right now like with CoD4 beta.
watsonte 04-25-08, 05:04 PM Played this for about an hour before I came into work this morning.
It's not a pretty game and certainly doesn't run at 60fps. The guns have no feel to them, like in BF:BC beta. The whole 2 options to shoots is confusing but it's something you can get used to over time. A sprint button is certainly needed. Also, it's trying to be a tactical shooter without a cover system? I mean you pullup walls and it gives you a traingle indicator, you hit it and the guy salutes the wall?
The shooting and being shot at needs to do a better job of informing the player. The melee setup is annoying! Give me shooting from the hip when I pull the trigger not some some stun with the gun. Use another button for that please.
Overall, it's not nearly as polished as the GRAW games or RB:6 vegas as a tactical shooter and certainly can't touch CoD4 for a faster paced gameplay. It seems hard trying to be both but getting lost in there somewhere.
I'll give it another couple of hours but so far there's nothing that wants me to go home and play it right now like with CoD4 beta.
I would have to agree with all of that...
Really the weapon selection was actually pretty impressive, but, there was nothing really unique about them
Cover system is without a doubt the one thing that needs work..
I highly doubt anything will change from the product we're playing now and whats coming in june
i agree completly with robert on this 1.
have played it for 2 hours and find it also very frustrating experience.
i wonder if Konami takes this online gaming actually seriously.
i can only see this game being nice when there is a clan. other then that , i can not see myself playing this.
and how more i play it. how more do i find the graphics so awful . it almost looks like ps2 graphics.
Chris Rein 04-25-08, 05:16 PM Well, after playing for a while, it's disappointing.
I think the best part of the game is the running animation up stairs. And by best I mean comical. LOL!
Um, are people that dumb to stop in the middle of a fight to look at a porno mag? :rolleyes: Claymores in CODF4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MGO
I'll play some more with my buddies tonight, but I tell ya, nobody is talking. It makes for a very dull game if nobody communicates. There's zero strategy in this too, at least the map (and seems to be only map people are playing) I've been playing on today. Invert is a must for me on everything. I originally set the first one to invert and realized when I was in other modes, invert wasn't on. Fixed that quick! ;)
And I'll just get one more bitch out of the way, and that's friendly fire and the friendly fire penalty. I can't tell you how many times some jackass decided to jump in and try to stab/grab the guy I'm shooting at, even if I've fired before he lunged on in. I hit him, I can't shoot for a few, and then BAM, killed from behind because I can't fire. Dumb.
It's a beta, which that's good, because I'll be submitting some feedback on things that need to improve. :)
Chris Rein 04-25-08, 05:17 PM i agree completly with robert on this 1.
have played it for 2 hours and find it also very frustrating experience.
i wonder if Konami takes this online gaming actually seriously.
i can only see this game being nice when there is a clan. other then that , i can not see myself playing this.
and how more i play it. how more do i find the graphics so awful . it almost looks like ps2 graphics.
Couldn't agree with you more. Setting up a clan with your friends is about the only way to play since nobody talks. Hell, I was the only one typing messages with the keyboard in game! LOL!
number1laing 04-25-08, 06:54 PM I don't really see where Konami is trying to take this game. It feels like a muddled and confused Japanese version of Gears of War. The controls don't feel right and the weapons don't feel right. CQC is useless from what I have seen. Maybe I'm just trying to play it too much like CoD4.
chad473 04-25-08, 07:03 PM I'll give it some more time over the weekend, but I agree with you guys. I'm not really impressed with it. I admit I wasn't expecting much, and it certainly doesn't make me think the SP game won't be great, but this just feels off.
How long does it take to download the update?I started downloading it at 5pm,and i'm only on 30%,it's now 8pm.wtf:mad:
chad473 04-25-08, 07:05 PM are you doing p2p? It took me about 5 minutes. It's not as big as the other update.
I hate to sound negative (yes, I know it's a beta) but this game doesn't look or play very well. It seems a little out-dated. The whole aim thing is gonna take some getting used to also it's very slow and the graphics for what it is right now are very bland and lacking any real texture. I know some people will jump on me for saying this and yell "it's a beta" but the last few betas I've played have pretty much evolved into the same thing without a huge difference in the end product. I hope that's not the case for this.
chad473 04-25-08, 07:21 PM I don't think we'll see much of a difference. It really seems like a cheap tack on, which is fine I guess. I was never buying this game for the MP.
Yeah, I didn't really know there was MP until just recently. Like you said it does seem like something tacked on. The SP should be excellent (I hope).
k3fallout 04-25-08, 07:57 PM not sure if this happens to you guys but when I use the auto aim(press square) then press L1 to aim my guy aims in a totally random direction and doesn't even aim at the enemy. Plus, the guns feel like I'm shooting a pea shooter, the damage is pitiful imo. Other than that, I don't really know how this leveling system works. I got a couple kills under my belt but none of my skill bars nudged one bit it seems.
DarrellG 04-25-08, 08:04 PM Yea, the controls are garbage and the graphics need work. I remember seeing somewhere in the instructions something about sharing your thoughts on the Konami message board or something, but where is it? I don't see anything on the Konami site.
It looks like the multiplayer aspect of this game will keep it from winning GOTY against GTAIV. That's my take anyway.
The auto-aim is useless. And yep LOL, the guns feel very lame. Although, I did have some fun with the sniper. But not enough.
k3fallout 04-25-08, 08:29 PM I hope to god that they fix the controls for single player at least. Otherwise the boss fights will be much more harder. The CQC seemed way too slow but I guess I should level it up some more and see where it takes me, btw did anyone manage to slit throats or even break necks with CQC? I was playing around in the training mode and all I could do was choke. Ah well, this IS a beta for a reason.
are you doing p2p? It took me about 5 minutes. It's not as big as the other update.
I am doing p2p,it's on 50% now.
emulsionman 04-26-08, 10:36 AM Couldn't agree with you more. Setting up a clan with your friends is about the only way to play since nobody talks. Hell, I was the only one typing messages with the keyboard in game! LOL!
Add me to you friends list.... Looking for people who talk and not play this like a run & gun fest
in game: Emulsionman
Swift Mojo Hand 04-26-08, 11:26 AM I believe I would enjoy this Beta a lot more if I found a group of guys who would take it slow and stick together. This is supposed to be a tactical shooter and everyone I have played with threats it like a Rambo movie. emulsionman I will be loking for you and players like you. We need a team leader and another man to watch the rear.
Also, anyone else notice that the handgun rounds seem twice as powerfull as the "pea shooter" smg's? The hand gun, gurnades, and the sniper rifles take out players a lot faster. Remember that you can hold R2 and traingle to go 1st person. Helps a lot.
GW-SMOkeY 04-26-08, 10:25 PM Ok so I need some help... I started to download update 1.01 and it keeps on failing on 48%. I have tried to re-download and install the game still same. HTTP download was what I chose... Each time I come back its stuck on 48% attempts to download then fails.
I have also tried to download using PeerToPeer and still run into issues...
GW-SMOkeY 04-26-08, 10:27 PM I believe I would enjoy this Beta a lot more if I found a group of guys who would take it slow and stick together. This is supposed to be a tactical shooter and everyone I have played with threats it like a Rambo movie. emulsionman I will be loking for you and players like you. We need a team leader and another man to watch the rear.
Also, anyone else notice that the handgun rounds seem twice as powerfull as the "pea shooter" smg's? The hand gun, gurnades, and the sniper rifles take out players a lot faster. Remember that you can hold R2 and traingle to go 1st person. Helps a lot.
Heck... If it was only real in all tactical shooters... Man everywhere even in vegas, even in GRAW2... Its an ant fight... 1 man heros that dont know jack about real combat situations...
Either way hope I get mine working, you can count me in!
k3fallout 04-26-08, 10:33 PM Well i managed to get my handgun mastery to lvl 2 but each time i try to selet it it says the cost is too much.wtfhax.
BrianEK 04-28-08, 09:14 AM The CQC seemed way too slow but I guess I should level it up some more and see where it takes me, btw did anyone manage to slit throats or even break necks with CQC? I was playing around in the training mode and all I could do was choke. Ah well, this IS a beta for a reason.
I picked the CQC Mastery skills as well and also found that when I started playing and training that all i could do is grab someone from behind and then I just stood there. No choking, stabbing, etc. So how the hell do you kill anyone using this skill? Do you have to level up a bunch before you can do anything? I didn't like that during the training mode when it explained CQC, it just told you how to grab someone and then just said to try mashing buttons and see what happens. Well I mashed all the buttons and nothing happens. Would have been nice if the training provided all the different things you can do in CQC and what buttons do what. But it seems the training is limited to what level you are on (since it tells you that you have to equip CQC mastery skill to even practice it in training mode).
TyrantII 04-28-08, 10:00 AM Well i managed to get my handgun mastery to lvl 2 but each time i try to selet it it says the cost is too much.wtfhax.
remove one of your other skillsl...
Lvl 2 costs 2 units/slots and you only have 4 slots to work with.
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