LongIslandMike
04-21-08, 10:12 AM
Hello everyone. So here is my dilemma. I purchased a 24AWG 60' HDMI/HDMI cable from Blue Jeans. The cable spans the distance of my living room/office in my attic and in the wall for approx 2' on each side. Sice I installed this I have had sparklies and drop outs. I understand the theory behind this long a run with this long of a cable, however it must works for some or they wouldnt make it, right? Anyhow, I ordered a replacement just to make sure, and same thing. I hear alot have had good luck with Monoprice cables. So I believe I will try them. So my question is, should I do 2 30' 22AWG cables and get their extender, or should I just get a 75' from them. My span is 60' however they do not have a 60' cable in their arsenal. Thanks for the help in advance!
Guitar Ed
04-22-08, 07:27 PM
LongIslandMike, I'd email Kurt at Blue Jeans Cable. He's a frequent poster here and has great advice.
From a reliability stand point, a single cable will be much more reliable. Additional interconnections are much less reliable than a straight cable. Someone here must have a chart (Kurt would) that correlates an equivalent length of cable (and it will vary on wire gauge) to an interconnection. I'd bet the 75 foot of cable would have much less signal degradation than two 30 foot cables combined in the middle.
Good luck.
pin2hot
04-23-08, 08:53 PM
I agree with Ed about the single cable being more reliable than the two-piece. Even if the one-piece is longer than you need, it's probably still going to perform better than two cables and a coupler.
The problem, is really that digital devices have no standard for the output strength. That same 75' cable should work for someone else.
Did you happen to test the cable prior to install? I would say cables run in-wall are broken 9/10 times during the install... There shouldn't really be any reason you don't get clean 480P content, even at 75' with a weak output. That would be an easy way to confirm the cable has croaked... Also, what resolution are you getting the sparkles?
crutschow
04-25-08, 07:50 PM
The problem is not just the strength of the signal but its quality at the receiver end. You may be able to improve this by adding a booster/equalizer/extender at the receiver end of the cable or buy a cable with one built in.
Whether a long cable works or not can depend upon whether the TV input has an equalizer and how well it works. Many of the newer TVs have equalizers but older ones may not. That's why the same cable can work in one installation and not another. Without an equalizer, sending HDMI beyond 30 feet can sometimes cause problems.
jreedar
04-29-08, 04:06 PM
I would say cables run in-wall are broken 9/10 times during the install.
How are cables most often broken during in-wall installs? I'm about to install some in my new home construction and wanted to avoid breaking any cables myself. My HDMI cables will be run in the ceiling for the majority of the length and then straight down the wall when I get to the end point.
I have two 50' runs and one 75' run, so I really want to be careful and do it the best way possible, the first time.
Thanks
crutschow
04-29-08, 05:39 PM
How are cables most often broken during in-wall installs?
Cables can be broken during the dry wall installation, if the installers aren't careful.
To really protect the cables you could run it in plastic conduit all the way, but that's significant additional work. It does have the advantage of making it easier to pull a different or additional cables in the future.
jreedar
04-29-08, 07:24 PM
Cables can be broken during the dry wall installation, if the installers aren't careful.
To really protect the cables you could run it in plastic conduit all the way, but that's significant additional work. It does have the advantage of making it easier to pull a different or additional cables in the future.
I do plan on running conduit vertically down the wall, thanks for the information.