So I got the Canon HF100 this morning and shot 2.5 hours of family video today using mostly 60i. I'm really glad I did. I took a look at the 30p video which I shot just to see how it compared, thinking that it couldn't appear much noticeably different than 60i. Unless it's my TV (I had to use an RCA connection to a 1080i HDTV for the moment), the 60i blew away 30p with regard to buttery smoothness of video quality. The 30p sections were horrific, having the "old movie effect" and not even current cinema. To say objects appeared unnatural and in a "smooth jitter" is an understatement.
This still doesn't mean that the Canon HF100 I got wasn't a great buy at $650 and I'd rethink it. I just may not ever use 24p or 30p ever again, except if I was filming some project and intentionally wanted this jittery effect. I'm just curious because some of you say you see this and others say it's not the case at all.
Ungermann
04-25-08, 01:40 AM
30p does not make any sense if:
* your have no intention to scale your footage to 720p;
* your TV cannot properly process 2:2 pulldown.
Use 60i.
Ken Ross
04-25-08, 10:32 PM
So I got the Canon HF100 this morning and shot 2.5 hours of family video today using mostly 60i. I'm really glad I did. I took a look at the 30p video which I shot just to see how it compared, thinking that it couldn't appear much noticeably different than 60i. Unless it's my TV (I had to use an RCA connection to a 1080i HDTV for the moment), the 60i blew away 30p with regard to buttery smoothness of video quality. The 30p sections were horrific, having the "old movie effect" and not even current cinema. To say objects appeared unnatural and in a "smooth jitter" is an understatement.
I've repeatedly warned people of this. There is simply no way to get rid of the motion jitter. You can't display a frame rate this low on any display and get the smoothness of 60i. If it bothers you like it does me, simply disregard this feature and shoot with 60i. I tried it on my HV20 and never used it again and also tried 30p on the HF10 and didn't see much difference there either.
I've repeatedly warned people of this. There is simply no way to get rid of the motion jitter. You can't display a frame rate this low on any display and get the smoothness of 60i. If it bothers you like it does me, simply disregard this feature and shoot with 60i. I tried it on my HV20 and never used it again and also tried 30p on the HF10 and didn't see much difference there either.
Which is why I shot at 60i for virtually the entire day and experimented with 30p for about 5 minutes or so. I'm going to do a second test and use the big screen (1080i) I've got and see if there is any difference. Otherwise, I'm in agreement with Ken and not sure what the rest of you are seeing at 30p that you feel is superb.