Hello all

Im have vegas Pro8 and render all mu videos fro vimeo at 1280X720. which is the same ratio as 1920X1080.

So all my videos look the way they should. But how is this look done?
http://www.vimeo.com/937985
you need to go to full screen to get the effect. I noticed that the video was rendered at 1920X1080 which is the same eas my video here.
http://www.vimeo.com/943535

Now my video was shot at 1920X1080. what did Phillip Bloom do to get his deat valley to have the extra wide screen look. What is this resolution? how do I do It?

Im just trying to understand all the different ratios and such.

He probably used a wide-angle adapter on the camera lens.

He probably used a wide-angle adapter on the camera lens.
Thats the best answer I got so far.
I posted on other forumsas well thats why I say that.

Anyway I think you are correct. I set up a crop window to mimic what the death valley video looks like.

I had to crop my 1920X1080 video to 1920X780 to get the same effect.

But i crop out alot of image where the death valley video manages to preserve it possibly due to the lens you mentioned. I never thought of it.

I just noticed he rendered at 1920X1080 in vimeo and the conversion to 1280X720 produced this effect. But thats makes no sense anyway since the ratios between 1920X1080 and 1280X720 are the same.

Real easy since it's not anamorphic lens on a super 35mm camera. Just use a non distorting wide angle adapter like 0.7x and then shoot your subjects in center screen with the framing cropped for a 2.33 AR. In Vegas you use the framing crop tool click on the little box that appears on your right of the clip and you'll get a popup for event pan crop. Then click on the top handlebars with the control key and set your widescreen look. Don't try to mess with the resolution or you will just distort the image with squeeze effects. Just set the resolution to the output that matches your clips You don't need the wide adapter either but it always helps to get those wide landscapes. I also noticed he was using some slomo. That looked real smooth too. This guy is real good at film look. Very nice!

Real easy since it's not anamorphic lens on a super 35mm camera. Just use a non distorting wide angle adapter like 0.7x and then shoot your subjects in center screen with the framing cropped for a 2.33 AR. In Vegas you use the framing crop tool click on the little box that appears on your right of the clip and you'll get a popup for event pan crop. Then click on the top handlebars with the control key and set your widescreen look. Don't try to mess with the resolution or you will just distort the image with squeeze effects. Just set the resolution to the output that matches your clips You don't need the wide adapter either but it always helps to get those wide landscapes. I also noticed he was using some slomo. That looked real smooth too. This guy is real good at film look. Very nice!

your a genius Don,
I posted this question to the author of the video and here is his response.
"the version on my website is the proper dimensions without borders. It was cropped to 2:35 to 1 in quicktime using a matte, you lose vertical resolution obviously."


So Don What exactly is 2:35 to 1 or as you mentioned 2.33? I mean number wise. So if the width is 1920 the height would be set to (825 or so I think)

Well, Paul, if all you want is to copy that same AR then 2.35 to 1 is pretty easy. For every 1 unit high, make it 2.35 units wide.

Say I have a 1080 x 1920 project size in Vegas. Then I would grab that top center handle, hold the control key and pull the crop to 817. 2.35 times 817 = 1919.95 or so. Just observe the vertical crop in the box on the left for height. If you put up a differerent clip that is 720 x 480 then you will need to calculate that height as well 720/2.35 = 306 Once you do that and you see the meat of the shot getting cropped out you can slide a key frame of the visible part of the sjot where you need it zoom in on a shot or move to a section of the full screen. It's like reframing your shots in post. Take a look at this video I did some time ago. It makes extensive use of the pan and crop tool in Vegas http://www.tv-shopper.com/ITVSweb.wmv As you can see you can get creative with the process.

Well, Paul, if all you want is to copy that same AR then 2.35 to 1 is pretty easy. For every 1 unit high, make it 2.35 units wide.

Say I have a 1080 x 1920 project size in Vegas. Then I would grab that top center handle, hold the control key and pull the crop to 817. 2.35 times 817 = 1919.95 or so. Just observe the vertical crop in the box on the left for height. If you put up a differerent clip that is 720 x 480 then you will need to calculate that height as well 720/2.35 = 306 Once you do that and you see the meat of the shot getting cropped out you can slide a key frame of the visible part of the sjot where you need it zoom in on a shot or move to a section of the full screen. It's like reframing your shots in post. Take a look at this video I did some time ago. It makes extensive use of the pan and crop tool in Vegas http://www.tv-shopper.com/ITVSweb.wmv As you can see you can get creative with the process.

I see thanks for sharing. It got real creative near the middle of the video. Is using this AR (2.33:1 or 2.35:1) a standard or at least one of a few.

Called "scope" for Cinemascope. It's an old standard crop of 35mm film for the typical movie film widescreen. There are various ways of achieving it but anamorphic lenses and cropping are the most common ways. Directors have gotten creative with other aspect ratios but the 2.35 or 2.33 seems to be the most common. I can't recall the exact standard for the film lenses but in video, whatever suits your fancy as you are the director and its just the art. so don't ever let anyone tell you you did it wrong. :)

Yeah, it's an obviously wider AR than 16:9. But he's using a combination of tools to achieve this very nice effect he's gotten...the guy knows what he's doing. He's using a very shallow depth of field for many of his shots. That together with some slo-mo as Don pointed out and the wider AR, gives a nice dramatic impact to the video.

That EX1 is a nice cam. How about that quality in the size of a SR12? I'll take two thank you!

Yeah, it's an obviously wider AR than 16:9. But he's using a combination of tools to achieve this very nice effect he's gotten...the guy knows what he's doing. He's using a very shallow depth of field for many of his shots. That together with some slo-mo as Don pointed out and the wider AR, gives a nice dramatic impact to the video.

That EX1 is a nice cam. How about that quality in the size of a SR12? I'll take two thank you!



This is one reason why I bought the SR12. I mean I found it to be the best solution for a great picture, easu of use, creative flexability, and easy work flow. The best part the price I figure the SR12 is my educational learning tool. To some its just a handycam !! I was originally looking into a DVX100 but I just could not get past the feeling like tape is on its last leg. So the sony was the best choice for me to get into AVCHD.

Oh and yes Philip Bloom has a good eye. not to mention some nice tools too

I forgot to add this. It is my lame attempt at being creative. I just wanted to shot something new to do some Cinemascope (thanks don)
http://www.vimeo.com/945896

I think the scope (thanks again Don) is to short. I think the height could be a little higher. this is 2.34:1