The latest version of Home Media Magazine (pages 18-19) confirms the 7/29 date and includes cover art.

Can you post the link to this weeks HMM?

Can you post the link to this weeks HMM?http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/questex/hom794427SZP/

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Just happily noticed that Amazon has dropped the price on Cloverfield down to $19.95. One of my last preorders from when the 10% discount was still working, so I'll be happy to get this one for $17.95 next week.

I'm really excited about There Will be Blood shipping next week. The cinematography in that film was simply stunning!

i currently still have a 5% discount on amazon. Weird...

Me too, Dave. And as soon as I spotted Cloverfield on amazon for $20 I ordered it, as that price was too good to pass up.

According to themanroom, Top Gun is getting a 6.1 DTS MA Lossless mix and the extras that were missing on the HD DVD version.

Neat.

According to themanroom, Top Gun is getting a 6.1 DTS MA Lossless mix and the extras that were missing on the HD DVD version.

Neat.

Kinda pissed that the extras are being included here but not on the HD DVD (or the recalled BD...I remember seeing a photo on AVS with the BD back cover showing no extras as well). I wonder if they'll include the extras on the Jack Ryan Collection. Paramount shipped those discs out barebones like the Top Gun, but recalled them because they advertised extras which weren't there.

According to themanroom, Top Gun is getting a 6.1 DTS MA Lossless mix


WTF!???:confused:

Paramount can't issue a press release to save their studio. First the 5/20, 6/3 debacle. Transformers with 3 Dolby Digital tracks(all english), and 2 lossless tracks. Now Top Gun getting a 6.1 MA track. When they already have a version with PCM that was good to go.

I'll wait until someone has a copy on hand to post the specs here.

Now comes the sad part. Will Top Gun follow the path of Face/Off w.r DNR ?

http://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4611

Now comes the sad part. Will Top Gun follow the path of Face/Off w.r DNR ?

http://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4611

Well hopefully they put a bit more effort into compared to the HD DVD version especailly the PQ.

With Cloverfeild now shipping I guess some of you guys must own them, intrested to read what the PQ and SQ would be like.

With Cloverfeild now shipping I guess some of you guys must own them, intrested to read what the PQ and SQ would be like.

+1, specially wanna know the AQ, how good is the THD track. I hope for a high bitrate track, getting tired of Warner low bitrate THD and Sony's average.

After looking at comparisons on Xylon's page, I think I actually prefer the MPEG2 BDs to the VC1 HD DVDs. The one screenshot (posted in this thread, I believe) of Nicholas Cage's face in Face/Off looks better on the BD. There appears to be more detail and less softness. I doubt it has much to do with bitrate, but rather the codec used. One of my favorite HD releases is 21 Grams on D-Theater and all those tapes were MPEG2. In regards to Top Gun, at least I only paid $9.98 for it and may actually double dip on this one for the music video extras if they indeed do show up this time around. I love the band Berlin (though this is not really one of my favorites). I do enjoy this song as well as the Gloria Estefan one.

+1, specially wanna know the AQ, how good is the THD track. I hope for a high bitrate track, getting tired of Warner low bitrate THD and Sony's average.

Ralph said he would have the review up tomorrow morning.:)

great, ralph normally puts up great detailed reviews. Thanks to him I got Water Horse and I am very pleased with it, specially on the sound side wich he said was great

HD DVD

MPEG-4 AVC HD30
1:36:06
Movie size: 17,390,895,104
Disc size: 24,574,126,296
Average Video Bit Rate: 18.94 Mbps :rolleyes:
Dolby TrueHD 5.1 24-bit
DDPlus 5.1 768Kbps

Blu-ray

MPEG-4 AVC BD50
1:36:10
Movie size: 30,727,809,024
Disc size: 39,483,346,411
Average Video Bit Rate: 31.93 Mbps :eek:
LPCM 5.1 6912Kbps 24-bit
DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps

Hi All,

I just received my US Face/Off Blu-ray and my Blu-ray PC drive on, and I thought it would be interesting to explore the disc structure and find out when the movie was authored. The file date?

June 20th 2007. Almost a year ago. Thanks for the wait, Paramount!

Hi All,

I just received my US Face/Off Blu-ray and my Blu-ray PC drive on, and I thought it would be interesting to explore the disc structure and find out when the movie was authored. The file date?

June 20th 2007. Almost a year ago. Thanks for the wait, Paramount!

Since that was a little more than a month before they announced that they went HD DVD exclusive it doesn't surprise me...

Weren't some Fox titles delayed about the same amount of time, albeit for different reasons?

Weren't some Fox titles delayed about the same amount of time, albeit for different reasons?

Yep, all those damn MPEG2 encodes on BD25 discs. They were probably authored before BD50's became the standard, for cryin out loud.

Yep, all those damn MPEG2 encodes on BD25 discs. They were probably authored before BD50's became the standard, for cryin out loud.

Who says it's the standard? Quite a few recent releases like Meet the Spartans and Alvin and the Chipmunks are on BD25 discs.

However, using AVC or VC-1 is a different story. If Predator or Robocop was to be authored now, they'd use a more efficient codec, but if they're going to skimp on the extras they'd still use 25GB.

Who says it's the standard? Quite a few recent releases like Meet the Spartans and Alvin and the Chipmunks are on BD25 discs

Those are crap movies and Fox knows it. Looks like they are trying to save money by using cheaper BD25's for movies that probably won't sell well. Juno didn't have any action and was pretty short but it got a very high bitrate encode on a BD50, because it would be a popular title.

It is probably also easier to get time on a BD-25 line than a BD-50 line.

Those are crap movies and Fox knows it. Looks like they are trying to save money by using cheaper BD25's for movies that probably won't sell well. Juno didn't have any action and was pretty short but it got a very high bitrate encode on a BD50, because it would be a popular title.How do they know they won't sell well? "Alvin" was a box-office smash. It may have been given a BD25 because it was short and had few extras.

How do they know they won't sell well? "Alvin" was a box-office smash. It may have been given a BD25 because it was short and had few extras.


Exactly not everything targerted for adults, actually correct me if im wrong but I think kids movies definetley sell more than adults.My daughter wanted the Bee Movie on Blu-ray, not my cup of tea but I bought it for her.

How do they know they won't sell well? "Alvin" was a box-office smash. It may have been given a BD25 because it was short and had few extras.

How? Have any of the highest selling BD's been anything like Alvin and the Chipmunks?

They've been Transformers, 300, Casino Royale, etc correct? The only way to possibly see into the future is to look in the past, and I don't remember these kinds of movies selling well on HD. But, who knows.

I watched TWBB and would have to say a fantastic film.The Story itself was just fantastic and could not argue with the way the PQ and SQ was.

HD DVD

MPEG-4 AVC HD30
1:36:06
Movie size: 17,390,895,104
Disc size: 24,574,126,296
Average Video Bit Rate: 18.94 Mbps :rolleyes:
Dolby TrueHD 5.1 24-bit
DDPlus 5.1 768Kbps

Blu-ray

MPEG-4 AVC BD50
1:36:10
Movie size: 30,727,809,024
Disc size: 39,483,346,411
Average Video Bit Rate: 31.93 Mbps :eek:
LPCM 5.1 6912Kbps 24-bit
DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps

...does Next on Blu-ray look better then the HD DVD? No, they look identical. Whats the point?

...does Next on Blu-ray look better then the HD DVD? No, they look identical. Whats the point?

Warner usually recycles HD-DVD transfers. He's just pointing out that Paramount is doing the right thing by optimizing encodes for BD.

Warner usually recycles HD-DVD transfers. He's just pointing out that Paramount is doing the right thing by optimizing encodes for BD.

He (the one you responded to) was simply saying that they look pretty much identical, even with a huge difference in bitrate between the two encodes.

He (the one you responded to) was simply saying that they look pretty much identical, even with a huge difference in bitrate between the two encodes.

I wasn't asking.

I wasn't asking.

Neither was GizmoDVD.

...does Next on Blu-ray look better then the HD DVD? No, they look identical. Whats the point?
If both versions look the same, then the whole higher-bitrate argument is laughable. For this title, at least.

Hi just have a quick question. I dont know if this is normal artwork or not but for those who have the 1 disc version on bd of face off with travolta. I opened my movie up and on the disc there is a picture of cage and travolta on each side of the disc and the lower part of their jaws and below is kind of cloudy like smoke looking. Is this supposed to be there or is it a ink application error it doesnt look right to me. Thanks in advance.

I never noticed that, it looks like a big grease spot. Well anyway, my disc has that too. It does look like an error.

Maybe this is why Paramount stopped using disc art all together once they started making BDs again.:rolleyes:

I dont know i just got my face off today from wally world and that is what it looked liked, i dont really care cause it doesnt affect play but I thought it looked odd. Anyway thanks for letting me know im not the only one.