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rsigley
04-29-08, 07:52 PM
here's a link to the source since no one believes me

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3iad7629cf5da06c79c1d52af2e489502b

here's the press release:

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/pressrelease_paramountlaunchesbluray.html

Skoobooz
04-29-08, 07:56 PM
Uh...source?

rsigley
04-29-08, 07:57 PM
will be announced tomorrow

spiderwick chronicles is also coming late june, not sure on exact date

guessing the 24th

Blasst
04-29-08, 08:03 PM
This titles mentioned are being listed at High Def Digest.

Will be interesting to see if "Bee Movie" still has some sting in it.

Topweasel
04-29-08, 08:07 PM
I was going to get Bee movie as a new release on HD-DVD but since the delay. I might wait till I either A.) rent it B.) I see it on HBO HD.

Cloverfield and There will be Blood I will pick up though.

shadowrage
04-29-08, 08:24 PM
Not cool. I was all excited.

rsigley
04-29-08, 08:26 PM
here's a press release in case people don't believe me

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3iad7629cf5da06c79c1d52af2e489502b

shadowrage
04-29-08, 08:29 PM
here's a press release in case people don't believe me

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3iad7629cf5da06c79c1d52af2e489502b

Nice.:) Thanks for providing a source. Now there are 10 titles to pick up on 6/3.


Hope they offer rebates if you bought the DVD.

bonham2
04-29-08, 08:31 PM
Uh...source?

Really. Link or it didn't happen.

the crane
04-29-08, 08:43 PM
Cloverfield, Bee Movie and There will be blood are all blind buys for me.

nyg
04-29-08, 08:48 PM
Awesome! Thanks for the heads up. Cloverfield and Face/Off for me.

TWISTED BULLET
04-29-08, 08:50 PM
great news at last

giantchicken
04-29-08, 09:10 PM
Just awesome news!! Now if Paramount can go from announcement to street date in just three weeks, why can't Universal move a little faster?

(And what about Sweeney Todd?)

saginawjuggalo
04-29-08, 09:10 PM
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Paramount/Disc_Announcements/Breaking:_Paramount_Unveils_Blu-ray_Launch_Plans/1696


Now I truly believe it.. cool news indeed. About time Paramount!

Urza
04-29-08, 09:14 PM
Arrrrg man!!!!!!!!!!!!! Transformers come on!!!!!!!

oldschool JAWA
04-29-08, 09:17 PM
D@mn, still waiting on Transformers release announcement.:mad:

JAC6
04-29-08, 09:19 PM
Excellent news.

gethd
04-29-08, 09:22 PM
Any specs? I hope they can include some lossless soundtracks on their BD releases.

iontyre
04-29-08, 09:27 PM
D@mn, still waiting on Transformers release announcement.:mad:

Cloverfield was a far better movie. Transformers was totally juvenile! Rented the HD DVD once, had no interest in buying.

Kyle_D
04-29-08, 09:31 PM
There Will Be Blood is one of the best films of the new millennium. Very happy on that announcement. Hopefully these all get lossless audio!

Jeffroy
04-29-08, 09:51 PM
Nice! Just Cloverfield for me to start.

My most anticipated title from them has to be Sweeney Todd, though. Shouldn't be long now!

mdc3000
04-29-08, 09:57 PM
I hope they get to Sweeney soon, but this is a good start. Down for Bee, Clover, Blood and Spiderwick.

Kyle_D
04-29-08, 10:02 PM
Sweeney Todd will be released in the UK on May 19 if you can't wait. It should be region free, but it'll run you a bit more (total = $37-38 shipped) than a domestic release though.

lotc
04-29-08, 10:03 PM
sweet cloverfield, luckly i didnt buy it on SD

xb1032
04-29-08, 10:06 PM
It's about time the silence broke. Now hopefully they'll give some dates for Transformers and Shrek.

ThePrisoner
04-29-08, 10:13 PM
Cloverfield with lossless audio would be sweet:)

DaveFi
04-29-08, 10:21 PM
I'll take Cloverfield. I already saw Bee Movie and it's not that good, it's just OK.

shadowrage
04-29-08, 10:21 PM
Cloverfield with lossless audio would be sweet:)

understatement of the year.:p

It will actually make your head explode.:eek:

I was this close to buying the SD. I did with TWBB though. It's so awesome I'll buy it again.

ThePrisoner
04-29-08, 10:23 PM
Looks like my Cloverfield DVD will go to a friend!

Shane Martin
04-29-08, 10:36 PM
waiting on baited breath for lossless on these.

JaylisJayP
04-29-08, 10:49 PM
Will get Cloverfield and There Will Be Blood. Have Face/Off and Next already on HD DVD.

Bee Movie I heard was poop.

Anyone know if these will carry a new release price or a catalog price? Speaking of Cloverfield and TWBB, of course. I'm guessing new release, but was just wondering what everyone thought.

Ph8te
04-29-08, 10:50 PM
Ouch my pockets are going to be hurting this summer :(.......TO the people upset about Transformers, just be happy they announced SOMETHING....Its only a matter of time before Transformers comes out. I for one am happy about the announcement :)

ilovenola2
04-29-08, 10:53 PM
Sweeney Todd will be released in the UK on May 19 if you can't wait. It should be region free, but it'll run you a bit more (total = $37-38 shipped) than a domestic release though.
It will be worth it!!!!!

kreepy
04-29-08, 10:53 PM
Cloverfield was a far better movie. Transformers was totally juvenile! Rented the HD DVD once, had no interest in buying.

You are joking right?? Cloverfield was an absolute piece of trash...by far one of the worst movies I have see...it ranks up there with Halloween H20, Blairwitch, and the remake of Amityville

I really wanna see a Sweeney Todd announcement...There will be blood is a blind buy for me on BR, and bee movie kinda lost its edge when they decided not to release it on HDDVD...

How about a Rocky Horror, or some more anime or even better Sin City...OH wait, give me a star wars and lord of the ring announcement....GIVE ME THAT!!

lgans316
04-29-08, 11:08 PM
My sixth sense says the blu-ray version of Face/Off will be encoded using MPEG-4 AVC with no DNR and will feature LPCM audio. The HD DVD was heavily DNR-ed.

mcrexx
04-29-08, 11:22 PM
Lossless audio PLEASE!!!

giantchicken
04-29-08, 11:27 PM
Looking at Paramount's track record, I will be quite surprised if they include lossless audio. It would be great if they worked towards that, but I am not expecting it with their first few titles since their return to Blu-ray support.

mpgxsvcd
04-29-08, 11:27 PM
Bee movie is a decent movie for kids. My kids have watched it about 20 times since it came out. It isn't bad but I don't think it is as good as cars.

almostgoth
04-29-08, 11:31 PM
D@mn, still waiting on Transformers release announcement.:mad:


seriously ...they did blu-ray a favour not releasing that Michael Bay P.O.S.

shadowrage
04-29-08, 11:32 PM
Looking at Paramount's track record, I will be quite surprised if they include lossless audio. It would be great if they worked towards that, but I am not expecting it with their first few titles since their return to Blu-ray support.

Maybe. Just in case, I suggest that everyone boycott Iron Man this week. And I'm not just saying that because I want a really good seat.;)

wakashizuma
04-29-08, 11:33 PM
Cloverfield was a total trash!
I'll like Face Off though; good thing I didn't buy it on HD DVD.

bobbyg1983
04-29-08, 11:34 PM
WOOOO!! There Will Be Blood... thank God!! I've seen it twice now, and as good as it was the first time, I enjoyed it even more the second time. The near 3 hour running time just flew by, I was so engrossed. I can't wait to re-watch it again on Blu!

Jay Mammoth
04-29-08, 11:34 PM
Just Cloverfield for me, I will gladly upgrade from the DVD. Awesome flick.

luigionlsd
04-29-08, 11:42 PM
There Will Be Blood for me. As if 6/3 wasn't packed enough as it is... Ninja Gaiden II on the console front, Dirty Harry box on the BD front. Poor wallet!

shadowrage
04-29-08, 11:50 PM
You are joking right?? Cloverfield was an absolute piece of trash...by far one of the worst movies I have see...it ranks up there with Halloween H20, Blairwitch, and the remake of Amityville

Cloverfield was a total trash!


It was not total trash. They made a monster movie and dropped the ball on the monster design.

It could have been something, because behind all that shaky(awesome:p) camerawork is a really good idea that came close, but didn't quite get there.

If it's a Lossless track you will both change your tune. The sound is amazing on Cloverfield. Plus it's only around 47 minutes long.:rolleyes:

phisch
04-30-08, 12:18 AM
I rented the sd version of Bee Movie last weekend and didn't like it very much, so I will pass on the Bluray. Cloverfield is a definite buy though.

Adam_G
04-30-08, 12:28 AM
Home Theater Forum has specs:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/ht-software-high-definition/271902-paramount-makes-official-blu-ray-announcement-read-press-release-here.html

Not sure on Next and Face/Off, but all the others have English 5.1 Dolby TrueHD, so yes to the lossless question.

shadowrage
04-30-08, 12:36 AM
Home Theater Forum has specs:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/ht-software-high-definition/271902-paramount-makes-official-blu-ray-announcement-read-press-release-here.html


I can't find them there.

Could you post them here by title?:)

BStecke
04-30-08, 01:08 AM
Right before their defection, Paramount had stated that their Blu-ray releases, starting with Blades of Glory, would include lossless audio, if I'm remembering correctly. Hopefully they haven't forgotten that.

giantchicken
04-30-08, 01:10 AM
Home Theater Forum has specs:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/ht-software-high-definition/271902-paramount-makes-official-blu-ray-announcement-read-press-release-here.html

Not sure on Next and Face/Off, but all the others have English 5.1 Dolby TrueHD, so yes to the lossless question.

That is a very pleasant surprise! I was skeptical but if this unofficial info is verified, I will be happy. They did initially mention a lossless track for Beowulf that didn't end up on the final disc, but I hope that they have learned their lesson and this time it will stick with this first batch of titles. They are deserving of TrueHD audio.

BStecke
04-30-08, 01:16 AM
I'm missing where it says anything about TrueHD. Can someone point me in the right direction?

giantchicken
04-30-08, 01:30 AM
The official information does not mention it at all.

A post on the forum claims that a reliable source indicated that there will be TrueHD tracks.

shadowrage
04-30-08, 01:39 AM
The official information does not mention it at all.

A post on the forum claims that a reliable source indicated that there will be TrueHD tracks.

Oh. A friend of a friend, so to speak.;)

I'll wait for official specs before I pop the cork. But TrueHD seems to make sense.

I just hope they don't ask for their same old prices.Even though they bring the extras in HD, I'm not interested in paying $30 for Cloverfield. Or TTWBB(they should give me a discount on the BD for paying for that piss-poor packaging).

DCSholtis
04-30-08, 01:45 AM
Eh. I'll be passing on these initial titles. MIGHT import Sweeny Todd from Japan though.

paulstachniak
04-30-08, 02:32 AM
sucks about Transformers not making it. thanks god Bee Movie is coming tho. the world was missing out.

HDPeeT
04-30-08, 03:08 AM
I was kind of hoping that Paramount would have a huge Blu-ray comeback where they release all the titles that were previously available on Blu/HD in one day.

Wouldn't that be like totally awesome?!?!

lgans316
04-30-08, 03:29 AM
CONSOLIDATED INFO

May 20th: Bee Movie, Next and Face/Off

Bee Movie: Special features include "Barry's Trivia Track" with pop up trivia, changeable menus, Build-A-Bee avatar creation, lost scenes, alternate endings and more.

Next: Special features include a making of featurette, "Visualizing the Next Move", the Next Grand Idea" and Two Minutes in the Future with Jessica Biel".

Face/Off: Special features include multiple commentaries, deleted scenes, alternate ending, making of and more.

June 3rd: Cloverfield and There Will Be Blood

Cloverfield: Special features include feature-length "Special Investigation Mode" with added details about the film, directory commentary, making of featurettes, deleted scenes, alternate endings with commentary and more.

There Will Be Blood: Special features include a slideshow of vintage photos selected by director Paul Thomas, deleted scenes, a featurette on dailies and more.

June 24th: The Spiderwick Chronicles (first day and date release)

The Spiderwick Chronicles: special features include behind the scenes featurettes, an exploration of the Spiderwick world, and exclusive peek inside Arthur Spiderwick's Field Guide and much more.

August (International releases)

The Spiderwick Chronicles, Cloverfield and No Country for Old Men

Rumor Mill

There Will Be Blood (BD50)
Audio: English 5.1 Dolby TrueHD, French and Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital
Subtitles: English, English (SDH), French, and Spanish
Most extras are in HD

Bee Movie (BD50)
Audio: English 5.1 Dolby TrueHD, French and Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital
Subtitles: English, English (SDH), French, and Spanish
Most extras are in HD

Cloverfield (BD50)
Audio: English 5.1 Dolby TrueHD, French and Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital
Subtitles: English, English (SDH), French, Spanish and Portuguese
Most extras are in HD

The Spiderwick Chronicles (BD50)
Audio: English 5.1 Dolby TrueHD, French and Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital
Subtitles: English, English (SDH), French, Spanish and Portuguese
Most extras are in HD

It looks like most (if not all of them) are VC-1 with a peak bit rate of around 38Mbps. One of the titles had three encodes done: VC-1, Brand X AVC and Brand Y AVC. The director chose the VC-1 encode for the Blu-ray release.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc27/GeonosisMX/beeblu.jpg

Audio: 5.1 Dolby Digital, 5.1 Dolby TrueHD
US Rating: PG - For mild suggestive humor
Blu-ray Features:
• Commentary: Jerry & Filmmaker Commentary
• Featurette: The Animators' Corner
• Featurette: Barry's Trivia Track
• Featurette: My Menus
• Featurette: The World of Bees
• Featurette: Build A Bee Avatar
• Featurette: Inside the Hive: The Cast of Bee Movie HD
• Featurette: Jerry's Flight Over Cannes
• Featurette: Meet Barry B. Benson
• Featurette: Tech of Bee Movie HD
• Additional Scenes: Lost Scenes with Commentary
• Additional Scenes: Lost Scenes with Commentary
• Additional Scenes: Lost Scenes with Commentary
• Additional Scenes: Alternate Endings with Commentary
• Additional Scenes: Alternate Endings with Commentary
• Additional Scenes: Alternate Endings with Commentary
• Additional Scenes: Alternate Endings with Commentary
• Additional Scenes: Alternate Endings with Commentary
• Additional Scenes: Alternate Endings with Commentary
• Other: Jerry's NBeeC TV Juniors
• Music Videos: "We Got The Bee" Music Video HD
• Other: DreamWorks Animation Video Jukebox HD
• Other: DWA Kids
• Trailers: Kung Fu Panda Trailer HD
• Trailers: Madagascar: The Crate Escape Trailer HD
• Trailers: The Spiderwick Chronicles Trailer HD


http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc27/GeonosisMX/bloodblu.jpg

Audio: 5.1 Dolby Digital Plus, 5.1 Dolby TrueHD
US Rating: R - For some violence
Blu-ray Features:
• Additional Scenes: 15 Minutes
• Trailers: Teaser
• Trailers: Trailer
• Additional Scenes: Fishing
• Additional Scenes: Haircut/Interrupted Hymn
• Additional Scenes: Dailies Gone Wild
• Featurette: The Story of Petroleum

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc27/GeonosisMX/cloverblu.jpg

Audio: 5.1 Dolby Digital Plus, 5.1 Dolby TrueHD
US Rating: PG-13 - For Violence, Terror And Disturbing Images
Blu-ray Features:
• Commentary: Commentary by Director Matt Reeves
• Featurette: Special Investigation Mode
• Featurette: Document 01.18.08: The Making of Cloverfield
• Featurette: Cloverfield Visual Effects
• Featurette: I Saw It! It's Alive! It's Huge!
• Featurette: Clover Fun
• Additional Scenes: Congrats Rob
• Additional Scenes: When You're in Japan
• Additional Scenes: I Call That a Date
• Additional Scenes: It's Going to Hurt
• Additional Scenes: Alternate Endings with Optional Commentary - Alt Ending 1
• Additional Scenes: Alternate Endings with Optional Commentary - Alt Ending 2
• Other: www.cloverfieldfiles.com
• Easter Eggs: #USGX-8810-B467 Supplemental Files
• Easter Eggs: Alpha Encounter - UNCONFIRMED - TAG VD - #18 English
• Easter Eggs: Alpha Encounter - UNCONFIRMED - TAG VD - #19 Spanish
• Easter Eggs: Alpha Encounter - UNCONFIRMED - TAG VD - #20 French
• Easter Eggs: Alpha Encounter - UNCONFIRMED - TAG VD - #21 Japanese
• Easter Eggs: Org. of Interest - TAG VD #12
• Easter Eggs: Slusho!
• Easter Eggs: Person of Interest - JLVD
• Easter Eggs: Video 2
• Easter Eggs: Video 5
• Easter Eggs: Video 9
• Easter Eggs: Video 11
• Easter Eggs: Rack 'Em & Pack 'Em
• Easter Eggs: Fighting the X

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc27/GeonosisMX/bladesblu2.jpg

Audio: 5.1 PCM (Uncompressed), 5.1 Surround, Dolby Digital
US Rating: PG-13 - For crude and sexual humor, language, a comic violent image, and some drug references.
Blu-ray Features:
• Other: Return to Glory: The Making of "Blades"
• Other: Celebrities On Thin Ice
• Other: Cooler Than Ice: The Super-Sexy Costumes of Skating
• Other: Arnett and Poehler - A Family Affair
• Other: 20 Questions with Scott Hamilton
• Other: Hector: Portrait of a Psychofan
• Additional Scenes: Deleted Scenes:
• Additional Scenes: Stranz and Fairchild Watch Kate's Video
• Additional Scenes: Chazz Offers the Verticoli, Flashback
• Additional Scenes: Blades of Glory Song
• Additional Scenes: Hector Shoots Darren
• Music Videos: Music Video "Blades of Glory" by Bo Bice
• Bloopers: Gag Reel
• Other: Alternate Takes
• Other: Moviephone unscripted with Will Ferrell, Jon Heder and Will Arnett
• Other: MTV Interstitials (3):
• Other: Montage
• Other: Chazz
• Other: Stranz & Fairchild

Paramount to reissue 14 Blu-ray titles on May-20-2008

1. Aeon Flux
2. Babel
3. Black Snake Moan
4. Coming to America
5. Disturbia
6. Dreamgirls
7. Face/Off
8. Sky Captain and the World Of Tomorrow
9. Sleepy Hollow
10. Trading Places
11. The Untouchables
12. The Warriors
13. We Were Soldiers
14. World Trade Center

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc27/GeonosisMX/spiderblu.jpg

Audio: 5.1 Dolby Digital, 5.1 Dolby TrueHD
US Rating: PG - For scary creature action and violence, peril and some thematic elements.
Blu-ray Features:
• Featurette: Spiderwick: It's All True!
• Featurette: It's a Spiderwick World!
• Featurette: Arthur Spiderwick's Field Guide
• Featurette: Spiderwick: Meet the Clan!
• Featurette: Making Spiderwick!
• Featurette: The Magic of Spiderwick!
• Featurette: A Final Word of Advice!
• Additional Scenes: Mom & Jared
• Additional Scenes: Boys in Bedroom
• Additional Scenes: Messy Kitchen
• Additional Scenes: Meet Lucinda
• TV Spots: A Guide to Seeing The Spiderwick Chronicles
• TV Spots: Cinema Spy
• TV Spots: Confessional Jared
• TV Spots: Confessional Mallory
• TV Spots: Field Guide – Tomato Sauce
• TV Spots: Field Guide – Seeing Stone
• TV Spots: Field Guide – Creatures
• TV Spots: What If You Had a Seeing Stone
• TV Spots: The Spit Spot
• Trailers: Good v. Evil
• Trailers: Secrets


http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=67617

BerserkerTails
04-30-08, 04:12 AM
Whoo! Cloverfield and There Will Be Blood for me! Of course, not until July or so... Just because I'll be broke after the Rambo movies, Doctor Who boxset and GTA4...

Grubert
04-30-08, 04:43 AM
Looking at Paramount's track record, I will be quite surprised if they include lossless audio. It would be great if they worked towards that, but I am not expecting it with their first few titles since their return to Blu-ray support.

Bee Movie: TrueHD
Blades of Glory: PCM
Cloverfield: TrueHD
Face/Off: no lossless (boo, hiss!)
Spiderwick Chronicles: TrueHD
There Will Be Blood: TrueHD

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=67617

Schils
04-30-08, 04:49 AM
Eh. I'll be passing on these initial titles.

+1

But the announcement definitely has me excited about what the future holds now...the holiday season should be awesome - we'll probably all be buying more BR discs than we'll have time to watch, unlike right now where I'm already in "reruns" with my measely 20. :)

paku
04-30-08, 05:44 AM
Not entirely unexpected but great news on There Will Be Blood! And with TrueHD too!

And not that I have any interest in it but Face/Off looks like a straight port from HD DVD which means it will most likely also look the same (i.e. horrendous DNR), pretty weak choice to get back into Blu-ray with.

Stevie76
04-30-08, 05:45 AM
Awesome news :)

Though the titles aren´t that impressive.

Cloverfield is an absolute buy though :)

But couldn´t they have dropped that crappy "Next" movie and put Transformrs in it´s place?

I´m sure Transformers will be out soon.
Hopefully with a TrueHD track (yes the DD+ track was awesome aswell) with a more brutal LFE channel this time ;)

Jim Morrison
04-30-08, 05:57 AM
Fantastic news. Cloverfield & There Will Be Blood are must buys for me.

davcole
04-30-08, 06:17 AM
Good to see Paramount back in the HDM game. While i'm excited to see support for lossless audio for their newly announced titles, it's a disappointment to see they didn't upgrade the audio to lossless for FACE/OFF but instead kept the same specs as before.

lgans316
04-30-08, 06:30 AM
Don't worry. The DTS ES track will be on par with the LPCM track featured on the import.
The directionality on the DTS ES track is amongst the best I have heard and easily outperformed the LPCM track which offered good deep bass.

BZiggyZ
04-30-08, 06:47 AM
Cloverfield! w/ extras <sigh of relief>

elezzar
04-30-08, 09:07 AM
Fantastic news. Cloverfield & There Will Be Blood are must buys for me.

+1. I really was thinking of getting cloverfield for 14.99 at bestbuy but after hearing the news I'm gonna wait a little longer to get it on bluray instead. Also There will be blood is a must for me too.

Ghostface1701
04-30-08, 09:15 AM
+2. Cloverfield and There Will Be Blood are definite buys for me too, but I'll have to wait until I know for sure that they're region-free. IIRC, Paramount were selective with which titles they region locked.

Brajesh
04-30-08, 09:23 AM
+3. Cloverfield (blind buy) and There Will Be Blood (would be blind not to buy this great film). Will pass on films already released on HD DVD. Don't expect transfer to be any better and I could care less about extras.

Bob Black
04-30-08, 09:27 AM
I'll be returning Next HD DVD which is still sealed to Borders. Then I'll be buying every disc listed, including Face/Off which I also own on HD DVD. I've been really looking forward to seeing Cloverfield and TWBB, so this is exciting news!

gmoney80
04-30-08, 10:03 AM
i have been eagerly awaiting cloverfield and there will be blood I can't wait.

Wolfie
04-30-08, 10:16 AM
Cloverfield was a far better movie. Transformers was totally juvenile! Rented the HD DVD once, had no interest in buying.

:confused: Cloverfield was the WORST dreck I've ever witnessed. Waste of the material it was made from.

Wolfie

cobolisdead
04-30-08, 10:21 AM
Good to see that they are releasing titles, but I was hoping for a bit more. Cloverfield was the worst movie I have seen in years, so It's a pass. I have Next and Face off on HD DVD, so that's another pass. Blades of Glory wasn't that great of a film and I never heard of There Will be Blood. So I guess I will just pick up Bee Movie.

MRMOTA
04-30-08, 10:28 AM
:confused: Cloverfield was the WORST dreck I've ever witnessed. Waste of the material it was made from.

Wolfie

I enjoyed the parts where the camera wasn't shaking which really wasn't that much. I kind of feel about cloverfield like with the grind house films(although those I loved), but really will HD do much of anything considering it suppose to be a handheld that we see the whole movie happen through? The DVD would probably be sufficient I would think. Considering that this is Paramount lossless audio not being on cloverfield would probably not be a big surprise.

I am in for TWBB and probably replace my Face/Off HD DVD. Maybe I'll get the kid the Bee Movie since it will be close to her B-Day.

What happen to blades of glory? :D

RDarrylR
04-30-08, 10:30 AM
I am very happy that There Will Be Blood is finally coming out. I would have liked to see Sweeney Todd announced as well and have little interest in the other titles announced but I'm just happy overall that Paramount is back in the game.

So after some stumbling blocks we'll soon finally be able to get all big day and dates on the single hi-def disc format.

mpgxsvcd
04-30-08, 10:40 AM
sucks about Transformers not making it. thanks god Bee Movie is coming tho. the world was missing out.

Actually the single best thing about this announcement is that Transformers is not on the list. This indicates that Paramount will take their time with the Transformers Blu-ray release.

I have no doubt that the Transformers Blu-ray will have a lossless track. The back-lash if it didn’t(whether truly justified or not) would be horrendous. The real question is are they just going to port over the video and special features from HD-DVD or are they going to do something special with this one? My guess is that the video will remain the same but we might see some really cool features.

For me all I care about is lossless audio! The Blu-ray version of this movie will be my 4th copy of it in HD(5th overall including my SD version). I had to buy 3 separate HD-DVD copies because they kept getting scratched.

paku
04-30-08, 11:08 AM
Cloverfield and There Will Be Blood are definite buys for me too, but I'll have to wait until I know for sure that they're region-free.
Dang, I completely forgot about that. Yeah, I'm going to be pissed if TWBB is region coded, there is really no excuse.

gandolf11763
04-30-08, 11:17 AM
Paramount and dreamworks were region free before they defected to HD DVD

wakashizuma
04-30-08, 11:35 AM
Face/Off, Untouchables and There Will be Blood for me!

Dave Mack
04-30-08, 11:41 AM
I kind of feel about cloverfield like with the grind house films(although those I loved), but really will HD do much of anything considering it suppose to be a handheld that we see the whole movie happen through? The DVD would probably be sufficient I would think.

Cloverfield was shot in Hd.

:)

bplewis24
04-30-08, 11:45 AM
*does a little dance*

Sorry I'm just a tad excited now that Paramount is finally on board! :)

Brandon

MRMOTA
04-30-08, 11:57 AM
Cloverfield was shot in Hd.

:)

Ok I am going to have to say it... It still sucks even knowing that it was shot in HD. :p

Officer Steve
04-30-08, 12:01 PM
Transformers?

thorthefifth
04-30-08, 12:06 PM
I am glad to see paramount on board and happy to see they are re releasing their discontinued bd's as well. Want Cloverfield, The Italian job and Aeon Flux. I am excited mostly for the future.

Tom Monahan
04-30-08, 12:25 PM
Not entirely unexpected but great news on There Will Be Blood! And with TrueHD too!

And not that I have any interest in it but Face/Off looks like a straight port from HD DVD which means it will most likely also look the same (i.e. horrendous DNR), pretty weak choice to get back into Blu-ray with.

Bad edge enhancement and DNR when on the same transfer are a combo that makes absolutely no sense to me.:rolleyes:

webdev511
04-30-08, 12:26 PM
Just awesome news!! Now if Paramount can go from announcement to street date in just three weeks, why can't Universal move a little faster?

(And what about Sweeney Todd?)

In for Cloverfield, TWBB and yeah, what about Sweeney Todd?

As far as Universal, my guess is they are taking their time porting U-Control over from HDi to BD-J. If you've seen it in action on their releases, it's easy to see how a single well coded port will serve Universal for oh, five years or so. Once done they can open up the back catalog flood gates at which point those of you who opted not to pickup HD DVD's at $12 a pop can feel free to load up on Universal's catalog titles at $20. (that price is my guess of what we'll actually see at checkout.)

Tom Monahan
04-30-08, 12:27 PM
+3. Cloverfield (blind buy) and There Will Be Blood (would be blind not to buy this great film). Will pass on films already released on HD DVD. Don't expect transfer to be any better and I could care less about extras.

We think alike Brajesh minus Cloverfield.:)

Tom

JAC6
04-30-08, 12:41 PM
It's good to see the previously released titles being re-released, as there are a few nice titles there and they add to the overall number of titles available. Things are looking up.

zoro
04-30-08, 12:53 PM
face off comes home!

DavidHir
04-30-08, 01:29 PM
Transformers will most likely get its own announcement - too big of a title not to get all of the attention at once.

shadowrage
04-30-08, 01:33 PM
The Bits confirmed that all titles will have TrueHD. Rock on Cloverfield. Demo disc for audio, no doubt.

Partyslammer
04-30-08, 01:34 PM
I really hated Cloverfield in the movie theater but it really comes off very well in a intimate home theater setting and I now find I like the flick for what it is - a modern USA take on a Godzilla film. The real treat for this release is the excellent audio which if it's even a small improvement over the standard dvd release, will have many BR viewers pretty impressed (funny how the consumer brand videocam the movie is supposed to be shot with has 5.1 surround sound audio, eh?).

Also, this is one release that I actually sat through the extras included on the dvd. It's rather amazing just how much of the footage is actually CGI/green screen and how little of the physical sets were actually constructed - almost on a par with a movie like Sin City. And it is nice Paramount is including at least some additional extras versus the dvd release.

T.B.

cobolisdead
04-30-08, 02:09 PM
I am disappointed that none of the Dreamworks films were announced. I would definitely pick up the Shrek Trilogy and Over the Hedge on BD on release day.

Patsfan123
04-30-08, 02:13 PM
I am disappointed that none of the Dreamworks films were announced. I would definitely pick up the Shrek Trilogy and Over the Hedge on BD on release day.

Bee Movie is DW. It is probably gonna take some time for the rest of their catalog to come out. Shrek 3 will prob come out over the summer at some point.

JBlacklow
04-30-08, 02:17 PM
Bee Movie is DW. It is probably gonna take some time for the rest of their catalog to come out.As is "Blades of Glory".
Shrek 3 will prob come out over the summer at some point.I'd bet it's coming out in Oct-Nov, when "Love Guru" is expected to hit the shelves (and in time for the holiday season rush).

jblank74
04-30-08, 02:18 PM
The Star Trek's in 2009 maybe???????? At least some of them?

Timothy Ramzyk
04-30-08, 02:22 PM
Transformers will most likely get its own announcement - too big of a title not to get all of the attention at once.

I had the HD DVD and thought it sucked (and no, not the disk, the movie), but I'd imagine they want to piggy-back it on a sequel now. No double-dips on that turd with corn and nuts for me.

I don't get why Sweeney Todd isn't on the immediate roster.

JBlacklow
04-30-08, 02:30 PM
I don't get why Sweeney Todd isn't on the immediate roster.I'd put money on waiting to cash in on Disney's "Nightmare Before Christmas" 3-D theatrical run.

bplewis24
04-30-08, 02:33 PM
Transformers will most likely get its own announcement - too big of a title not to get all of the attention at once.

My fear, though, is that they're going to wait for some pre-determined point in the distant future to announce it so as to capitalize on some cross-promotional marketing scheme for another movie (perhaps a sequel?), while at the same time waiting for a larger install base. I want it yesterday! :mad:

Brandon

gethd
04-30-08, 02:44 PM
Good to see Paramount back in the HDM game. While i'm excited to see support for lossless audio for their newly announced titles, it's a disappointment to see they didn't upgrade the audio to lossless for FACE/OFF but instead kept the same specs as before.

The Face/Off PCM soundtrack is amazing in their JP release, we will find out how the lossy soundtrack compare to PCM.

Filipinoyakuza
04-30-08, 02:47 PM
DAMN

Paramount is holding out and probably waiting to cash in to annouce the release date for Transformers BD either this Christmas or sometime close to when Transformers 2 hits the theaters in the summer of 2009.

Michael Bay needs to go on another rant and light a fire under Paramounts ass so that they will release Transforner sooner.

DavidHir
04-30-08, 02:53 PM
My fear, though, is that they're going to wait for some pre-determined point in the distant future to announce it so as to capitalize on some cross-promotional marketing scheme for another movie (perhaps a sequel?), while at the same time waiting for a larger install base. I want it yesterday! :mad:

Brandon

I would say this will be a fall or Christmas release.

At worst, they will not release it until Transformers 2 (June 2009).

Who knows.

history2b
04-30-08, 03:00 PM
There Will Be Blood in HD!

I loved this movie so much I bought the NTSC version and it blows. Can't wait to get it on Blu.:p

shamus
04-30-08, 03:38 PM
Nobody cares about "Next"???:o (Im serious!)

k1davis
04-30-08, 08:56 PM
Cloverfield in HD with lossless audio? I'm all in. It's a movie that splits people. For me, the shaky handheld camera perspective and fleeting glimpses of the monster make the events seem far more real. I found it unique and highly entertaining. But yeah, it's different, so it's certainly not for everyone.

Transformers? Now *there's* a movie where the camera is shaky and too close to the action and you can't tell what the hell is going on. But in this case, that's not part of the story... It's just Micheal Bay's "style". Another poster called it "jumble vision". I wouldn't take it for free.

One man's trash... :)

TWISTED BULLET
04-30-08, 09:06 PM
i agree CLOVERFIELD AND tHERE WILL BE BLOOD MOST EAGERLY AWAITED RELEASES

skriefal
04-30-08, 09:30 PM
Nobody cares about "Next"???:o (Im serious!)

I regret having wasted my money on the HD-DVD version, so I'll certainly let the Blu-ray version pass me by.

But I'll probably purchase Cloverfield and There Will Be Blood...

MattGuyOR
04-30-08, 10:12 PM
What's the consensus on the TWBB cover? I think it's kind of striking, myself.

nyg
04-30-08, 10:22 PM
I regret having wasted my money on the HD-DVD version, so I'll certainly let the Blu-ray version pass me by.

Same here. It's a rental, nothing more.

bdizzle
05-01-08, 12:05 AM
Glad cloverfield's coming out. Saw it in the theater and loved it. Def getting it June 2

Rieper
05-01-08, 02:15 AM
Nobody cares about "Next"???:o (Im serious!)

*ugh*

Shamus, I thought you had better taste??? :p

Put me down for Cloverfield, There will be Blood, and that's it...for now.

JediMastr
05-01-08, 03:51 AM
Just a warning:

Buy Cloverfield if you are like me and just like to add movies to your library, but don't buy it expecting to see an awesome monster flick. It's worse than the Godzilla movie a few years ago, at least I knew that movie was going to be corny--but this movie...I could barely stand to listen to the dialogue. The acting wasn't convincing either. It was just really bad--I'm going to stop here, but I could go on.

TheCrackedJack
05-01-08, 05:23 AM
I had the HD DVD and thought it sucked (and no, not the disk, the movie), but I'd imagine they want to piggy-back it on a sequel now. No double-dips on that turd with corn and nuts for me.

I don't get why Sweeney Todd isn't on the immediate roster.

Your entitled to your opinion. But I can't possibly see how someone could buy Transformers without knowing what kind of movie they're getting. You've either seen Michael Bay movies in the past (unless your really young and weren't alive during Armageddon and the like) and liked the guy or not. I thought it was all good fun, and one of his best.

I don't mean to criticize or anything, maybe you got it for free or something.

Schils
05-01-08, 06:36 AM
Transformers is a Hidef lovers/home theater enthusiat's blast....a check your brain at the door (hey, who needs all their movies to be "thinkers"), sit down, strap in, lean back and enjoy the amazing sights and sounds - the desert battle with the scorpion thing alone was worth the price of admission and a great way to show off your rig to friends. I'll be dipping again on this when it hits BR for sure.

mhafner
05-01-08, 06:45 AM
My sixth sense says the blu-ray version of Face/Off will be encoded using MPEG-4 AVC with no DNR and will feature LPCM audio. The HD DVD was heavily DNR-ed.
I'm not optimistic. Neither do I expect them to fix the bad aliasing in Next. If they do I'll double dip.

mhafner
05-01-08, 06:46 AM
Nobody cares about "Next"???:o (Im serious!)
If they fix the aliasing I'll buy (again).

Topweasel
05-01-08, 08:26 AM
I enjoyed the parts where the camera wasn't shaking which really wasn't that much. I kind of feel about cloverfield like with the grind house films(although those I loved), but really will HD do much of anything considering it suppose to be a handheld that we see the whole movie happen through? The DVD would probably be sufficient I would think. Considering that this is Paramount lossless audio not being on cloverfield would probably not be a big surprise.

I am in for TWBB and probably replace my Face/Off HD DVD. Maybe I'll get the kid the Bee Movie since it will be close to her B-Day.

What happen to blades of glory? :D

I will say the same thing I said with Grindhouse. The way those movies are made to look its almost impossible to get a DVD look anything more then Super Mario 3 with the kind of blocking and pure A+ Vaseline that needs to be applied to the transfer to fit in Mpeg2 on 7 GB. Neither of these movies is going seem like looking through a window, but honestly I think its movies like this that really need the HD treatment. Where as movies like King Kong are so clean that losing fine detail are not nearly as a big an issue.

msgohan
05-01-08, 10:34 AM
I have no doubt that the Transformers Blu-ray will have a lossless track. The back-lash if it didn’t(whether truly justified or not) would be horrendous. The real question is are they just going to port over the video and special features from HD-DVD or are they going to do something special with this one? My guess is that the video will remain the same but we might see some really cool features.

A video introduction featuring Michael Bay gloating? ;)

Or a game where you can play as him, tracking down and destroying every HD DVD copy of the movie...

Blacklac
05-01-08, 12:38 PM
I had to break down and watch Cloverfield last night. I was trying to wait for an HD release, but I couldn't. The movie looked great upconverted. God, I can't wait for that TrueHD. The sound is awesome already. All in all, I thought it was a pretty good movie. Once the first explosion hit, I was totally into the rest of the movie. I'd say it def. could have been better, but I appreciate it for what it is and I'm sure I'll watch it a few more times. On Blu. :)

shamus
05-01-08, 12:42 PM
*ugh*

Shamus, I thought you had better taste??? :p

Sorry....:D

Matt_Stevens
05-01-08, 02:05 PM
FACE/OFF was a sure fire buy for me, but without TrueHD audio I am not going for it. I'll just wait because you know it will be redone down the road.

zoro
05-01-08, 05:11 PM
FACE/OFF was a sure fire buy for me, but without TrueHD audio I am not going for it. I'll just wait because you know it will be redone down the road.

what was audio master on UK version?

Dave Mack
05-01-08, 05:44 PM
Ok I am going to have to say it... It still sucks even knowing that it was shot in HD. :p

i thought it looked great.

:)

allargon
05-01-08, 05:51 PM
I had the HD DVD and thought it sucked (and no, not the disk, the movie), but I'd imagine they want to piggy-back it on a sequel now. No double-dips on that turd with corn and nuts for me.

I don't get why Sweeney Todd isn't on the immediate roster.

+1

There Will Be Blood is tempting, but no way am I paying Paramount's $40 ($30 at Fry's, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc.) for it. The DVD was a darned good transfer. There were some nasty compression artifacts in it, but I can live with it. To me, it's not quite worth $40.

What about Kite Runner? I already have Into the Wild on HD DVD. I would prefer the new stuff and backfill of SD DVD rather than seeing them double dip on Face/Off, Next (Vomit!), etc. Looks like Stardust, A Mighty Heart and Hot Rod didn't make the list?

TheCrackedJack
05-01-08, 09:20 PM
+1

There Will Be Blood is tempting, but no way am I paying Paramount's $40 ($30 at Fry's, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc.) for it. The DVD was a darned good transfer. There were some nasty compression artifacts in it, but I can live with it. To me, it's not quite worth $40.

What about Kite Runner? I already have Into the Wild on HD DVD. I would prefer the new stuff and backfill of SD DVD rather than seeing them double dip on Face/Off, Next (Vomit!), etc. Looks like Stardust, A Mighty Heart and Hot Rod didn't make the list?

Eh, I'd definitely pay 30 bucks for There Will Be Blood. The lowest price I saw at a store for the 2 disc DVD was $23, so you bet your ass I'll pay an extra $7 for HD.

Drag'nGT
05-01-08, 09:25 PM
^ did you just ask for Hot Rod? I was drunk off my a** when I watched it and laughed at us making fun of the movie. Nothing in it was worth the rental fee much less at the price Blu sells for.

I will be buying many other titles but still want to know where Transformers is. I know it 'wasn't that great' but I want to see it in HD and that chick.... yummy. :D

wipron
05-01-08, 09:28 PM
That suckfest called "the Bee Movie" is going to be in HD?

This is a definite "NO BUY" for me. My kids didn't even like it! Could not wait for it to be over when I brought them to see it in the Theater. Somebody should have paid me to sit through it!

If it's over $3 don't buy it!

lgans316
05-01-08, 09:31 PM
To people who are confused with FACE/OFF

I had Face/Off (Import - LPCM 4.6 Mbps/AVC) as well as the HD DVD (DTS E.S 6.1/DD+). To be honest there ain't a big difference in audio quality among the two. The LFE was a bit more pronounced in the import but the directionality exhibited by the DTS ES track was much better. However I prefer the non DNR-ed look of the import over the DNR-ed HD DVD.

cardiac161
05-02-08, 12:14 AM
Hope this is true:

http://videoeta.com/news/2502

shadowrage
05-02-08, 12:24 AM
Hope this is true:

http://videoeta.com/news/2502

It's not really 37 titles. I already own some of those. It's only 3 or 4 new titles.
The others are "coming out of the closet(vault)". That or they are out of time-out. They were tagged then released back into the wild.

oldschool JAWA
05-02-08, 02:08 AM
Nice, they have Shooter on that list!

iontyre
05-02-08, 01:30 PM
It was not total trash. They made a monster movie and dropped the ball on the monster design.

It could have been something, because behind all that shaky(awesome:p) camerawork is a really good idea that came close, but didn't quite get there.

If it's a Lossless track you will both change your tune. The sound is amazing on Cloverfield. Plus it's only around 47 minutes long.:rolleyes:

I'm glad you didn't bash the movie too badly, but you are wrong, it was NOT a monster movie. A monster movie is a movie where the monster is the point of the movie. The monster was not the point of Cloverfield: how people react in times of TRUE dire circumstances was the point. We saw in the beginning a bunch of self-obsessed sub-adults unable to handle the simple obstacles of a normal life. Suddenly, they face REAL adversity. How do they handle it? The monster was there to provide the adversity, nothing more, nothing less. There was no reason to explain its existence in any way, that wasn't the point.

Dave Mack
05-02-08, 01:51 PM
The Village Voice had an interesting take on it...

http://www.villagevoice.com/film/0804,lee,78885,20.html

As someone who grew up in NYC and has felt the pressure of being "forced off the island..." by the ridiculous real estate prices and general cost of living, I got a kick out of it.

:)

k1davis
05-02-08, 02:58 PM
I'm glad you didn't bash the movie too badly, but you are wrong, it was NOT a monster movie. A monster movie is a movie where the monster is the point of the movie. The monster was not the point of Cloverfield: how people react in times of TRUE dire circumstances was the point. We saw in the beginning a bunch of self-obsessed sub-adults unable to handle the simple obstacles of a normal life. Suddenly, they face REAL adversity. How do they handle it? The monster was there to provide the adversity, nothing more, nothing less. There was no reason to explain its existence in any way, that wasn't the point.

+1

It was very creative and entertaining. The shaky camera is something that will bother some more than others. It took getting used to, but I actually enjoy it now as it makes the experience more intense. As the extras on the DVD show, most of what appears on screen is computer generated. The seamlessness of the real and virtual elements is amazing.

I read that Cloverfield was made on a (relatively small) $25M budget. That's encouraging, if it's true. Technology is advancing to the point that large scale, visually impressive films can be made without betting the farm. Hopefully we'll see the studios take more risks like this one, where they know that some people will definitely not like the film, as opposed to the cookie cutter movies we've been getting for the past 20 years.

JediMastr
05-02-08, 03:06 PM
I'm glad you didn't bash the movie too badly, but you are wrong, it was NOT a monster movie. A monster movie is a movie where the monster is the point of the movie. The monster was not the point of Cloverfield: how people react in times of TRUE dire circumstances was the point. We saw in the beginning a bunch of self-obsessed sub-adults unable to handle the simple obstacles of a normal life. Suddenly, they face REAL adversity. How do they handle it? The monster was there to provide the adversity, nothing more, nothing less. There was no reason to explain its existence in any way, that wasn't the point.

Actually JJ Abrahams said he wanted to do a Godzilla for the United States, but they chose to tell the story from that special angle (not his words exactly). So that does indeed qualify it as a monster movie. The problem was that that "angle" FAILED miserably. The whole concept destroyed my ability to suspend disbelief. If this party was a gathering of--what do you call them, I guess "frontline journalists" --then, maybe I'd believe they would go to rescue their loved ones AND film as much footage as possible (THOSE GUYS ARE CRAZY!!!LOL). Or they could have just made it about trying to get off the island, and maybe one of their stupid friends decided to film the whole thing in hopes of selling the tape afterwards--It probably wouldn't have mattered, because mostly it was the bad acting that threw me--I mean it was really bad--uncomfortably bad--you know what I mean? Hard to watch.

If all you want out the movie is a big terribly designed monster, some action, and explosions to help give your HT a workout, then you should pick this one up. Don't buy it and expect to fall in love with it though.

Dave Mack
05-02-08, 03:18 PM
The shaky cam totally makes sense. When people are running for their lives while filming something, it usually looks like this.

Brajesh
05-02-08, 03:36 PM
That suckfest called "the Bee Movie" is going to be in HD?
This movie must be bad. I've never seen one as heavily promoted theatrically and on disc as this one. ;) Jerry Seinfeld has pushed it himself on talk shows, radio ads, etc.

dad1153
05-02-08, 08:26 PM
"Blades of Glory" is back on the Blu-ray schedule (guess Paramount found the key to the locker where they stored all the undestroyed Blu-ray copies :rolleyes: ) for May 20th: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Paramount/Disc_Announcements/Paramount_Reschedules_Blades_of_Glory_Blu-ray_for_May/1704.

UxiSXRD
05-03-08, 01:20 AM
Heh, that's what I was going to say... Paramount must have "remembered" where they stashed their production. :D

Most important question: When is the Bay-supervised Blu-ray optimized encode with 7.1 PCM coming? :D :D :D

Otherwise definitely looking forward to Top Gun with PCM, too.

madzo2007
05-03-08, 12:31 PM
Any news if Paramount are staying with their region free BD's or will they be region locking their blu rays?

Thanks

vpn75
05-03-08, 08:33 PM
This movie must be bad. I've never seen one as heavily promoted theatrically and on disc as this one. ;) Jerry Seinfeld has pushed it himself on talk shows, radio ads, etc.

It's not a terrible movie, but nothing memorable.

I rented it on DVD and was quite impressed with how good it look upconverted on my HD-A2. It really looked close to HD quality. I was ready to pick this up on HD-DVD, but after seeing it, I doubt I'll bother with it on Blu-ray.

Definitely interested in Cloverfield though...

Tom Monahan
05-03-08, 08:40 PM
This movie must be bad. I've never seen one as heavily promoted theatrically and on disc as this one. ;) Jerry Seinfeld has pushed it himself on talk shows, radio ads, etc.

A couple of people liked it. Richard Roeper and guest critic A.O. Scott both liked it. Roeper really liked it by the way. YMMV though:)

Tom

Brian81
05-03-08, 08:53 PM
I'd really like to see Sweeney Todd, Jack Ryan Collection, and There Will Be Blood. I was not happy that all of these were cancelled on HD DVD. They're been available on DVD for everyone to purchase but "HD" versions are nowhere to found. If they weren't cancelled, I'd have them already. What format (BD, HD DVD) they were on didn't matter to me - but to have not a single available option just stinks.

shadowrage
05-03-08, 11:55 PM
Cloverfield and TWBB are up @ Amazon.

$27.95:(

I want a rebate for TWBB. And payment for that POS packaging the dvd was in.
That's too much for catalogues. If they aren't day and date, they're catalogues Paramount.

Even Fox dropped their price. WTH?? What sucks is that I'll buy these anyway. Shame on me.

lgans316
05-04-08, 12:31 AM
Come on DreamWorks and Bay. When are you going to take us to The Island ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-PCs8V7nLg

shadowrage
05-04-08, 01:19 AM
Come on DreamWorks and Bay. When are you going to take us to The Island ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-PCs8V7nLg

I'd actually be happier with just getting that one scene and the Jetbike(?) part on BD. No use in siting through all the fluff.

BTW Amazon lists Clovey and TWBB with a 5/20 release date, not 6/3. I guess that's good that buy date was empty on my calendar.
Will amazon issue discounts for the inconvenience? I'll pre-order anyway.

lgans316
05-04-08, 01:21 AM
I think it's a typo on amazon but the pricing sucks.

LEDme
05-04-08, 07:09 PM
CLOVERFIELD is a must for me. The thing about it is you have to be able to put yourself in the right headspace, and really think of it as an actual tape found of an actual event. The "bad acting" isn't really acting at all, they are re-acting to their circumstances, and speaking the way normal non-actors talk amongst friends or to a camera. Yes, it's a bit odd they filmed the whole thing...I know if I was running for my life I'd have ditched the camera! But some people are actually like that and will film or die trying. Not everyone can enjoy this style of storytelling, a lot of people can't watch shaky camera footage, but that doesn't mean this movie was trash. It just requires a different perspective and frame of mind for it to work.

Transformers (not yet announced) is similar...it is more like riding a rollercoaster than watching Children of Men or something deeper. Not everyone likes insane, crazy action with stuff blowing up or metal being smashed, but for some of us it's a fun departure and a hell of a ride!

rsigley
05-04-08, 07:43 PM
Come on DreamWorks and Bay. When are you going to take us to The Island ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-PCs8V7nLg

both imports are region free and look great

i got mine on hd dvd for $18

Rieper
05-04-08, 09:08 PM
A couple of people liked it. Richard Roeper and guest critic A.O. Scott both liked it. Roeper really liked it by the way. YMMV though:)

Tom

Oh really?

Richard Roeper liked Bee Movie? Let see... wasn't he the critic that also liked Artie Lange's Beer League movie and gave it a strong recommendation?

'nuff said.

sanderdvd
05-05-08, 05:00 AM
CLOVERFIELD was THE best movie of the last 2-3 years for me!!

thebland
05-05-08, 06:24 AM
Bee movie was terrible... easily the worst animated film in years. Just plain boring.

Cloverfield.. was OK (the cast interactions were idiotic though) and the filming method was a perfect recipe for a headache and was plain distracting. Basically, the film was a gimmick.

Next? What the heck is that?

Face/Off... not much to get excited about either..

Not an impressive kick off for Universal (except that they will use DTS MA with all their new releases).

sunnysky
05-05-08, 07:40 AM
Of all the Animated movies I have seen, the Bee movie is easily the most forgetable. I'm not saying terrible. I'm just saying Forgetable.

As far as Cloverfield goes, I was not expecting to like it. I didn't care much for the Blair witch project, and I'm not a fan of the Shaking camera type of movie. That said, I thought Cloverfield was a very well done movie.

And

FenixP3D
05-05-08, 04:05 PM
Bee movie was terrible... easily the worst animated film in years. Just plain boring.

Cloverfield.. was OK (the cast interactions were idiotic though) and the filming method was a perfect recipe for a headache and was plain distracting. Basically, the film was a gimmick.

Next? What the heck is that?

Face/Off... not much to get excited about either..

Not an impressive kick off for Universal (except that they will use DTS MA with all their new releases).

Next is with Nicholas Cage as a person with precognitive abilities. Government tries to track him down for their use while the baddies track him to kill him.... saw it at theaters but overall thought it was more like a rental.... Cloverfield was good in my opinion except the characters. Some characters were just plain stupid... no survival instincts at all... darwinism at its best though...

shadowrage
05-05-08, 04:24 PM
Bee movie was terrible... easily the worst animated film in years. Just plain boring.

Cloverfield.. was OK (the cast interactions were idiotic though) and the filming method was a perfect recipe for a headache and was plain distracting. Basically, the film was a gimmick.

Next? What the heck is that?

Face/Off... not much to get excited about either..

Not an impressive kick off for Universal (except that they will use DTS MA with all their new releases).

You do know that approximately 0% of those are Uni titles right?:rolleyes:

narcopolo
05-05-08, 10:01 PM
Not an impressive kick off for Universal (except that they will use DTS MA with all their new releases).

Well, that totally bites. All I'll get out of that is standard dts. I wish they had stuck with PCM.

Patsfan123
05-06-08, 12:08 AM
Props to Genosis on HDD forums for these:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7396/cloverfinalbdob8.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cloverfinalbdob8.jpg)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4513/cloverfinalbd2xu6.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cloverfinalbd2xu6.jpg)

jeff_c
05-06-08, 10:00 AM
Hmm...Anyone know if the "Special Investigation Mode" of Cloverfield will be BD 1.1/2.0? Not much point in buying it if I won't be able to watch the special features. This is one movie that would definitely be better with the special features, viral marketing and movie all tied in together for one easy viewing.

Patsfan123
05-06-08, 09:24 PM
Bee Movie:
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3473/beemoviebackko1.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beemoviebackko1.jpg)

Next:
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3269/nextbdbackmj7.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nextbdbackmj7.jpg)

joevfx
05-06-08, 09:39 PM
All I care about now is gettign Iron Man on BLu ray. awwww man i cannot wait

Patsfan123
05-06-08, 09:39 PM
Top Gun (not yet announced)
http://www.axelmusic.com/resources/covers/back/097361305646.jpg

shadowrage
05-06-08, 11:19 PM
All I care about now is gettign Iron Man on BLu ray. awwww man i cannot wait

For the 12 minutes he's in the suit?:eek:

I know they had a budget. But come on. The movie was paced so aggressively they could have added another 30 minutes and nobody would know.
At least they have the money for a IM WM fight in part to. No Avengers BS in an Iron Man stand alone Paramount.

BTW- I thought Top Gun had a PCM track when it was announced?
edit- I forgot that PCM doesn't sport a logo. Plus they post the specs in the worst place possible. Cool, so when will they unleash this one? Wasn't it scheduled with Face/Off?

narcopolo
05-06-08, 11:53 PM
BTW- I thought Top Gun had a PCM track when it was announced?

It does say that on the back of the box that is pictured.

Dave_6
05-09-08, 05:55 PM
Ive noticed that Amazon has both Cloverfield and TWBB with a release date of May 20th. Wonder if thats a mistake or Paramount moved the release date up (I hope!)?

Dahl77
05-12-08, 11:46 AM
So does DVD Pacific. Ordering now :)

Patsfan123
05-12-08, 11:14 PM
To finish up the new releases

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/459/bloodfinalbdiy9.th.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bloodfinalbdiy9.jpg) http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/984/bloodfinalbackbdaz6.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bloodfinalbackbdaz6.jpg)

Snake Plisken
05-15-08, 02:24 PM
So is Cloverfield out on the 20th of May or June 3rd? Amazon have it listed as 20th of May Tower have it on June 3rd!

Dave_6
05-15-08, 02:29 PM
June 3rd. Amazons is wrong but they havent corrected it yet.

bommai
05-15-08, 06:13 PM
So what video codec is Paramount using for these BDs.

Urza
05-15-08, 06:20 PM
Bee movie was terrible... easily the worst animated film in years. Just plain boring.

Cloverfield.. was OK (the cast interactions were idiotic though) and the filming method was a perfect recipe for a headache and was plain distracting. Basically, the film was a gimmick.

Next? What the heck is that?

Face/Off... not much to get excited about either..

Not an impressive kick off for Universal (except that they will use DTS MA with all their new releases).

OK, I just cant resist poking fun at Blands Expense.

Remember when you told me this?

"As you are aware, I am rarely misinformed / incorrect when speaking anything Home Theater."


"Be careful when arguing a point with me.... You may learn something.."

Last time I checked, Uni has nothing to do with those titles.

:D:D:D

Franin
05-16-08, 01:06 AM
Bee movie was terrible... easily the worst animated film in years. Just plain boring.

Cloverfield.. was OK (the cast interactions were idiotic though) and the filming method was a perfect recipe for a headache and was plain distracting. Basically, the film was a gimmick.

Next? What the heck is that?

Face/Off... not much to get excited about either..

Not an impressive kick off for Universal (except that they will use DTS MA with all their new releases).

Didn't mind Next.Saw the previews of Cloverfield and the camera work is all over the place.I will rent before I buy on this one.I guess it each to there own when it comes to films.

shadowrage
05-16-08, 01:27 AM
Didn't mind Next.Saw the previews of Cloverfield and the camera work is all over the place.I will rent before I buy on this one.I guess it each to there own when it comes to films.

No dude. Cloverfield has that 'your ears will bleed out of pure pleasure and excitement' sound that very few movies have(SPR). It'll be worth it just for the TrueHD track.

Personally I like the camera work and the ideas they have(monster design is the worst ever), but you can always close your eyes and you still get the full effect.

You can see underneath the digital grain that it was shot with some killer HD cameras. There's plenty of detail there. And this movie seems like it would be better at than on full theater screen. The movie is really exciting too. I went in wanting to hate it, but I got into it.

lgans316
05-16-08, 01:48 AM
Just ordered Cloverfield, There will be Blood and 2 other Paramount titles with dvdempire for $96 including shipping to Japan. Stateside people can grab 4 titles for $81 including shipping.

Franin
05-16-08, 01:52 AM
No dude. Cloverfield has that 'your ears will bleed out of pure pleasure and excitement' sound that very few movies have(SPR). It'll be worth it just for the TrueHD track.

Personally I like the camera work and the ideas they have(monster design is the worst ever), but you can always close your eyes and you still get the full effect.

You can see underneath the digital grain that it was shot with some killer HD cameras. There's plenty of detail there. And this movie seems like it would be better at than on full theater screen. The movie is really exciting too. I went in wanting to hate it, but I got into it.

Well I will be looking forward in see it.It comes out next week here on DVD.If it's good as you say then I will be ordering it on BD.

JBlacklow
05-16-08, 10:25 AM
We're getting info from a fairly reliable source that "Patriot Games" is hitting 7/29. This is the same guy who was first with the specs on the upcoming Paramount titles, so I'm fairly convinced. It remains to be seen whether or not this means a "Jack Ryan Collection" is forthcoming, or if Paramount just decided to throw away all the boxes with the false info and sell each title separately.

Dr Kain
05-16-08, 11:03 AM
There Will Be Blood is one of the best films of the new millennium. Very happy on that announcement. Hopefully these all get lossless audio!

You actually stayed awake through that?

Anyway, where is Transformers and Sweeney Todd??!!

zoro
05-16-08, 11:23 AM
how come all face off reviews are bad?

lgans316
05-16-08, 11:41 AM
how come all face off reviews are bad?

1) Old HD master
2) Some EE / Halos
3) Possible application of DNR like the HD DVD though this is not confirmed. If there is no DNR we can boldly purchase Face/Off.

Dave Mack
05-16-08, 11:44 AM
There Will Be Blood is one of the best films of the new millennium. Very happy on that announcement. Hopefully these all get lossless audio!

You actually stayed awake through that?


:rolleyes:

TiVoHD
05-17-08, 08:32 AM
Amazon has pushed the release date of Bee Movie to June 3rd. Most other sites still have it listed as May 20th. Which is it?

cualexander
05-18-08, 02:32 PM
Come on Paramount, release Team America...

Michael Bay sucks. I quote my favorite lyric from Team America:

"Why does Michael Bay get to keep on making movies?
I guess Pearl Harbor sucked just a little bit more than
I miss you."

TheCrackedJack
05-18-08, 02:51 PM
Come on Paramount, release Team America...

Michael Bay sucks. I quote my favorite lyric from Team America:

"Why does Michael Bay get to keep on making movies?
I guess Pearl Harbor sucked just a little bit more than
I miss you."
See, I think Team America sucks. I liked The Rock, The Island, and to a lesser extent Transformers. Personally, I don't find them any dumber than Jaws, and all those earlier blockbusters everyone seems to love.

GizmoDVD
05-18-08, 03:02 PM
Amazon has pushed the release date of Bee Movie to June 3rd. Most other sites still have it listed as May 20th. Which is it?

Its wrong, they messed up again. My copy directly from Paramount is on its way to me right now while TWBB and Cloverfield won't arrive until next week. Its an error, Bee Movie will be available in less then 48 hours.

cualexander
05-18-08, 03:08 PM
See, I think Team America sucks. I liked The Rock, The Island, and to a lesser extent Transformers. Personally, I don't find them any dumber than Jaws, and all those earlier blockbusters everyone seems to love.

Different strokes for different folks I guess. Blockbusters to me are like pop music... Catchy and sometimes entertaining but generally lacking any substance whatsoever.

Transformers is a perfect example of the vapid crap Hollywood puts out because they know people will lap it up. Pulling up Michael Bay's list of movies on IMDB, there is not a single one I'd like to own.

TheCrackedJack
05-18-08, 04:14 PM
Different strokes for different folks I guess. Blockbusters to me are like pop music... Catchy and sometimes entertaining but generally lacking any substance whatsoever.

Transformers is a perfect example of the vapid crap Hollywood puts out because they know people will lap it up. Pulling up Michael Bay's list of movies on IMDB, there is not a single one I'd like to own.

I suppose so. That's the same thing I think about Team America, South Park, etc. I don't know in what universe half of the stuff they put in South Park is supposed to be funny, but people seem to go nuts for it.

There are sooo many other directors in Hollywood that deserve people's ire than Bay. Rob Cohen, Uwe Boll, Simon West, Paul W.S Anderson, Roland Emmerich, Renny Harlin, Joel Schumacher, Aaron Seltzer and Jason Friedberg to name a few.

shadowrage
05-18-08, 04:19 PM
Transformers is a perfect example of the vapid crap Hollywood puts out because they know people will lap it up.

It's based off of a line of toys.:confused: And can you honestly say you have seen anything else like it?

I don't know in what universe half of the stuff they put in South Park is supposed to be funny, but people seem to go nuts for it.

Despite all the fart jokes and gross outs SP is a 'Smart Comedy'. It's nothing but commentaries and observations on society and the world. Plus they put in really distinct references that most people don't know, but should. You need to have a pretty good knowledge about everything in the world, and an open mind to really appreciate it.

30XS955 User
05-18-08, 04:27 PM
Team America is one of the stupidest movies I've seen. I hope it becomes a lost film in the upcoming decades.

TheCrackedJack
05-18-08, 04:32 PM
It's based off of a line of toys.:confused: And can you honestly say you have seen anything else like it?



Despite all the fart jokes and gross outs SP is a 'Smart Comedy'. It's nothing but commentaries and observations on society and the world. Plus they put in really distinct references that most people don't know, but should. You need to have a pretty good knowledge about everything in the world, and an open mind to really appreciate it.

A smart comedy to me is something witty like Frasier or Futurama (which makes similar observations and references as SP). South Park goes way too far and becomes crude and childish IMO (Mr. Hanky, the gerbil, etc)

chirpie
05-18-08, 11:43 PM
A smart comedy to me is something witty like Frasier or Futurama (which makes similar observations and references as SP). South Park goes way too far and becomes crude and childish IMO (Mr. Hanky, the gerbil, etc)

For my money, South Park's material is more poignant than any issue ever raised on Frasier (still like Frasier though.) How can you at least not like South Park Bono?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY3NxPMYaAw

You're right about Mr. Hanky though, he got old real fast.

Futurama, on the other hand, deserves all the praise it gets. ^_^

kreepy
05-19-08, 07:16 PM
So I finally saw Bee movie and well..thats going to be a pass for me now...I expected better for that movie..it was a totally mediocore movie at best...So i guess the only movie outta these mentioned im waiting for is TWBB and maybe Face/off...

Next wasnt horrible but not buying, Bee movie was a one and done movie, and Cloverfield I feel sorry for anyone who spent money on that movie...

HD-Gaming
05-19-08, 07:36 PM
Will the There Will Be Blood have the same features as the 2 disc version?


if not, then no buy for me

shadowrage
05-20-08, 01:26 AM
Why does amazon have every Paramount release listed as 6/3?

Even Face/Off and Blades of Glory have that as the date. They are having a hard time with Paramount listing for some reason. First the MI box and now this. Next doesn't even have a pre-order option.

lgans316
05-20-08, 01:31 AM
A week ago I received an email from amazon about Disturbia being pushed to Jun 3,2008. Blades of Glory review is up in HDD.

zinfamous
05-20-08, 02:22 AM
oh Thank God.

It's been painful having no HD for There Will Be Blood.

seriously...4 months since the last viewing has been difficult.....

zinfamous
05-20-08, 02:31 AM
I suppose so. That's the same thing I think about Team America, South Park, etc. I don't know in what universe half of the stuff they put in South Park is supposed to be funny, but people seem to go nuts for it.

There are sooo many other directors in Hollywood that deserve people's ire than Bay. Rob Cohen, Uwe Boll, Simon West, Paul W.S Anderson, Roland Emmerich, Renny Harlin, Joel Schumacher, Aaron Seltzer and Jason Friedberg to name a few.

Wait...Paul W. S. Anderson? do you mean both P T Anderson and Wes Anderson? ...uh...hell know. Royal Tennenbaums is one of the more brilliantly sardonic comedies in some time. How can you not love Gene Hackman in that?
and P T Anderson?

as for Uwe Boll. well, come on: if youre' expecting greatness from movies adapted form video games, then you get what you deserve. let him do his thing. if it's crap, then why see it? let the market axe him out. Why anyone would want to see a video game movie is beyond me anyway....

and no...no one is more deserving of the ire than Michael Bay. it's a law of nature, like gravity and evolution and such :P

once you get past the fart jokes, SP really is pretty damn brilliant. I didnt' watch it for the 3rd-I don't know...6th season b/c all I remember early on were fart jokes. after catching some more recent episodes, it's quite different.
honestly, it's like judging the Simpsons franchise on the first season or two. There's a world of difference. The early ones were simple, not very funny, mostly about Bart and his punk antics (remember how controversial that season was? strange to consider today, no?) Now, it's one of, (if not the) best satires on modern American culture that TV has produced.
Such is South Park today compared to its earlier days.

danforth
05-20-08, 02:52 AM
Wait...Paul W. S. Anderson? do you mean both P T Anderson and Wes Anderson? ...uh...hell know. Royal Tennenbaums is one of the more brilliantly sardonic comedies in some time. How can you not love Gene Hackman in that?
and P T Anderson?

Paul W.S. Anderson is neither Wes Anderson nor Paul Thomas Anderson, just so you know. Speaking of Wes Anderson, though, it would be nice for the entire Wes Anderson catalogue to be made available on BD. I've actually held off on watching "The Darjeeling Limited" in hopes of it being released on BD at some point.

TheCrackedJack
05-20-08, 03:25 AM
As noted above, Paul W.S. Anderson, Wes Anderson, and Paul Thomas Anderson are all different people.

Zinfamous: As for video game movies, Gore Verbinski is slated to direct a film based on Bioshock, which I am very much looking forward to. I was entertained by Tomb Raider as well. You could easily say the same thing about Bay's Transformers. If your looking for cinematic genius from a movie based a toy line, you've lost your mind.

Rooper
05-20-08, 09:42 AM
There are sooo many other directors in Hollywood that deserve people's ire than Bay. Rob Cohen, Uwe Boll, Simon West, Paul W.S Anderson, Roland Emmerich, Renny Harlin, Joel Schumacher, Aaron Seltzer and Jason Friedberg to name a few.

Obviously Bay gets attacked because he's high profile and an easy target. I've enjoyed most of his movies, however. So I don't have a problems with him.

Although to be fair, many of the people you listed aren't exactly Hollywood. Uwe Boll certainly isn't, he does stuff on his own. I suppose REnny Harlin is still making some Hollywood stuff, although it does seem like he's be relevant since the 1990s (when he made some stuff I enjoyed like Long Kiss Goodnight and Die Hard 2, eventhough neither are particularly great. And yeah Die Hard 2 is probably the weakest in the series.) Other than the Batman fiasco, Joel Schumacher's kept to smaller projects and made some good films. Is Simon West even still working in Hollywood? I even liked The General's Daughter and Con Air. And Roland Emmerich is basically a poor man's Michael Bay, though he did give us Independence Day and Stargate. I can't even call Aaron Seltzer and Jason Friedberg directors.

GizmoDVD
05-20-08, 11:11 AM
Any get Bee Movie?

kreepy
05-20-08, 11:33 AM
Any get Bee Movie?

Nope, went to a few stores and no one had it...but then its not a great movie

JWhip
05-20-08, 12:09 PM
My review copy of Be MOvie arrived this morning. I agree that it is not a good movie, rather poor if you ask me but the PQ is outstanding. AQ is very good as well but not quite up there with the best sounding films but a strong audio encode nonetheless. A formal review will be up this afternoon.

Patsfan123
05-20-08, 01:20 PM
After defecting to HD DVD at the last minute with Paramount, 'Face/Off' finally arrives on Blu-ray with a fantastic 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 transfer that matches the HD DVD's VC-1 encode shot for shot. However, purists will be disturbed to learn it still retains the controversial application of DNR (Digital Noise Reduction) that caused such a stir last year. There are a handful of scenes in which the DNR disrupts skin textures and causes the actors to look a bit waxy, but these brief eyesores are just as distracting as the random grainfield spikes that haunt the film's original source. Please don't misunderstand my position on the issue -- I want studios to present their films as faithfully as possible. However, I don't think the alteration in question is as glaring as some people have suggested.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1475/faceoff.html

bunkaroo
05-20-08, 05:01 PM
Those looking for Bee Movie should check your local Fry's if you have one. I got mine there this morning.

raoul_duke
05-20-08, 05:28 PM
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1475/faceoff.html

Typically crap HDD review.

"Oh, it has the same DNR as the HD DVD."

"Oh, but we don't care as it's now on Blu ray, give it 4.5."

"But it's still DNR'd crap!"

"DO IT!!"

:D

zinfamous
05-20-08, 09:21 PM
A video introduction featuring Michael Bay gloating? ;)

Or a game where you can play as him, tracking down and destroying every HD DVD copy of the movie...

how about a game where you hunt down Michael Bay, and then try to erase his entire movie catalogue and its shameless influence from the history of film? that would be sweet. ;)

zinfamous
05-20-08, 09:22 PM
As noted above, Paul W.S. Anderson, Wes Anderson, and Paul Thomas Anderson are all different people.

Zinfamous: As for video game movies, Gore Verbinski is slated to direct a film based on Bioshock, which I am very much looking forward to. I was entertained by Tomb Raider as well. You could easily say the same thing about Bay's Transformers. If your looking for cinematic genius from a movie based a toy line, you've lost your mind.

hehe, no complaints here. I couldn't sleep for days after seeing transformers. shocked and terrified that it was allowed through production

zinfamous
05-20-08, 09:24 PM
Paul W.S. Anderson is neither Wes Anderson nor Paul Thomas Anderson, just so you know. Speaking of Wes Anderson, though, it would be nice for the entire Wes Anderson catalogue to be made available on BD. I've actually held off on watching "The Darjeeling Limited" in hopes of it being released on BD at some point.

ah. well, let me hope W S Anderson never crosses my path...thanks for the warning ;)

as for Darjeeling...I recently saw it, and.... :(
very disappointed. it had it's moments, though, but not very many.

sorry for jumping to conclusion on that that

Makaveli Tha Don
05-20-08, 09:32 PM
Nope, went to a few stores and no one had it...but then its not a great movie


Yah, my wal mart was the only one that had bee movie where I went. I also checked meijers, best buy, FYE, and circuit city and NONE of them had blades of glory on blu. Anybody able to snag that today?

lgans316
05-20-08, 10:31 PM
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1475/faceoff.html

OMG. This is highly disappointing.:mad:

I will anyways buy the U.S version and treat it as a bonus disc to my import copy which contains 0 extras.:D

shadowrage
05-20-08, 11:49 PM
Highdefdiscnews has their review up for Bee Movie

PQ - 5 (out of 5)
AQ - 4.5 "

If any of you think Bee Movie has vibrant colors and a complete 3D look, then Speed Racer is going to knock you socks off. It will be the first BD to earn a 6th star or 11 for PQ.

lgans316
05-21-08, 12:31 AM
Highdefdiscnews has their review up for Bee Movie

PQ - 5 (out of 5)
AQ - 4.5 "

If any of you think Bee Movie has vibrant colors and a complete 3D look, then Speed Racer is going to knock you socks off. It will be the first BD to earn a 6th star or 11 for PQ.

provided Warner doesn't filter it.;)

lgans316
05-21-08, 04:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyWXnY-7278

Subtracting 6.9 Mbps from the total bit rate we get a Video bit rate that hovers in the 30+ Mbps range which means this is yet another BLU specific encode created by Paramount/DW. This reading puts statement like these under scrutiny "which mirrors the previous HD DVD and is just as good-looking", "identical to the HD DVD".

Image Courtesy : DetroitSportsFan

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5859/hpim2145fo0.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1406/hpim2154qk1.jpg

Neo_Reloaded
05-21-08, 07:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyWXnY-7278

Subtracting 6.9 Mbps from the total bit rate we get a Video bit rate that hovers in the 30+ Mbps range which means this is yet another BLU specific encode created by Paramount/DW. This reading puts statement like these under scrutiny "which mirrors the previous HD DVD and is just as good-looking", "identical to the HD DVD".


This puts scrutiny on the statements made by people who judge releases on bitrate and not audio / video quality. The law of diminishing returns applies here - if an image can be properly encoded by 25 MBps, encoding it in 30 MBps is not going to create a noticeable improvement.

lgans316
05-21-08, 07:24 AM
This puts scrutiny on the statements made by people who judge releases on bitrate and not audio / video quality. The law of diminishing returns applies here - if an image can be properly encoded by 25 MBps, encoding it in 30 MBps is not going to create a noticeable improvement.

I am sure there will be some differences whether noticeable or not.
I prefer to buy 5 candies to 3 for $1.

Challenge the post. Not the poster.:rolleyes:

Neo_Reloaded
05-21-08, 07:32 AM
I am sure there will be some differences whether noticeable or not.

Challenge the post. Not the poster.:rolleyes:

I didn't mention anyone, and I said it puts scrutiny on statements. Which poster am I challenging?

And for your statement of some differences - well that is obvious. Unless you're encoding the pictures losslessly (something not done for Blu-ray), there will always be differences.

But what good are differences if they aren't noticeable to the human eye, or are so small as to be undetectable at resolutions supported by the format? If such unnoticeable differences are important, then even a Blu-ray specific encode is not enough. Heck, 60 MBps would have EVEN MORE unnoticeable improvements!

That's not to say I WANT low bitrate. But if the image quality is fine, I will not be bothered as I understand that high bitrate is not needed in all instances, and in some will not produce any difference that will ever be noticed.

lgans316
05-21-08, 07:48 AM
Points taken but no one knows what will go missing from the frame when sufficient bits aren't supplied. Hence it's better to keep the bits as high as possible. I know that my demands are sometimes unreasonable but when the opportunities are wide open then make the best use of it.

Imeldhil
05-21-08, 02:44 PM
I find incredible that still no online store is shipping cloverfield. nearly 10 days from release. Paramount was always a good company for early release.. but looks like they neither rush it, or have changed that... pitty

Timothy Ramzyk
05-21-08, 03:09 PM
I am sure there will be some differences whether noticeable or not.
I prefer to buy 5 candies to 3 for $1.

Challenge the post. Not the poster.:rolleyes:

Actually it's more like buying three candies in a five-candy box.;)

Dave Mack
05-21-08, 07:56 PM
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/imgcache/30578.imgcache

DavidHir
05-21-08, 08:17 PM
Hence it's better to keep the bits as high as possible.

Agreed. Always better to be on the safe side. It's amazing how some people can't grasp that concept.

Phantom Stranger
05-21-08, 09:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyWXnY-7278

Subtracting 6.9 Mbps from the total bit rate we get a Video bit rate that hovers in the 30+ Mbps range which means this is yet another BLU specific encode created by Paramount/DW. This reading puts statement like these under scrutiny "which mirrors the previous HD DVD and is just as good-looking", "identical to the HD DVD".

Which once again shows not to trust HDD's reviews that much. People have to remember that their staff was heavily biased for HD DVD. Of course they are not going to find any differences in the encodes even if they exist. Paramount had two separate encoding facilities making their HD DVD and Blu-ray transfers by summer of 2007. None of them are the same encodes after a certain point.

Merrick97
05-21-08, 11:32 PM
I just ordered Blades of Glory from DVDPacfic. Online said they had it in stock.


Hopefully they do.

Makaveli Tha Don
05-22-08, 12:16 AM
I just ordered Blades of Glory from DVDPacfic. Online said they had it in stock.


Hopefully they do.


Let us know if you actually get a shipment notification. I've been looking for this title at about 12 different brick and mortar stores around here and i've found every other paramount release except for this one...

lgans316
05-22-08, 12:28 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3155/2512393941_bf24daaf39_o.jpg:(

shadowrage
05-22-08, 12:34 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3155/2512393941_bf24daaf39_o.jpg:(

I was going to order from them. I asked about shipping and they said that the studios don't send the films out to them until the release date(so I would get them much later, I guess).
I know the studios will send stuff to me before the release date so I stuck with amazon.

Why did all of the 5/20 releases shift to 6/3?

lgans316
05-22-08, 12:38 AM
It looks like discs went out-of-print due to heavy demand and low supply. Anyways only 2 more weeks left for June-03-2008 besides 2 more weeks of nail biting and impatience.:cool:

If I was in Paramount I will redo Shooter with lossless audio as this was the #1 title in demand since their defection.

MrHunt
05-22-08, 01:28 AM
It looks like discs went out-of-print due to heavy demand and low supply. Anyways only 2 more weeks left for June-03-2008 besides 2 more weeks of nail biting and impatience.:cool:

If I was in Paramount I will redo Shooter with lossless audio as this was the #1 title in demand since their defection.

Have they not re-released their catalog titles that were available in Blu before the switch? I was at Wal-Mart last night and I saw Flags, Iwo Jima, The Shooter, Four Brothers and possibly one other one. Those titles haven't been in this Wal-Mart for a long time... I just assumed Paramount got them back out already... maybe they just pulled them from the shelves... I don't know.

lgans316
05-22-08, 01:33 AM
Thanks MrHunt. It looks like the titles are available with certain in-store retailers but not with online merchants.

shadowrage
05-22-08, 01:37 AM
Those titles haven't been in this Wal-Mart for a long time... I just assumed Paramount got them back out already... maybe they just pulled them from the shelves... I don't know.

I think they had those in boxes in the back of the store. And wrote do not sell on them(they all probably did that). All of those were printed before they went red.

Paramount did a lousy job with that press release. I guess the stores had trouble reading it too.

lgans316
05-22-08, 01:46 AM
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews37/face_off_blu-ray.htm (Look at the wax puppets)

shadowrage
05-22-08, 01:54 AM
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews37/face_off_blu-ray.htm (Look at the wax puppets)

Whoa. You can't even tell if they have pores. That's a bit much.

Uh-oh. I forgot Gina Gershon was in this.:eek: Damn you DNR. I shouldn't, but I must.

Do they look like that in motion?

lgans316
05-22-08, 01:55 AM
1-800-XYLON - Screenshots please.:)

I thought Gina Gershon was there in this Paul Verhoeven movie too.;)

Patsfan123
05-22-08, 01:56 AM
I think they had those in boxes in the back of the store. And wrote do not sell on them(they all probably did that). All of those were printed before they went red.

Paramount did a lousy job with that press release. I guess the stores had trouble reading it too.

Well I don't think they were ever told to stop putting out the titles that were already released, and I don't think Face/Off ever made it to retailers. I mean Blades of Glory was supposed to be out right after the announcement and only a few leaked. It just seems like certain titles made it out, since I saw the same ones at my walmart.

For people that live near the Northborough, MA Wal-Mart. They had Face/off, Shooter, The Italian Job, MI2 & MI3, Four Brothers, Flags of Our Fathers, Disturbia, and Tomb Raider on the shelves. All were $19.88 and there were 3 copies of each.

Franin
05-22-08, 08:53 AM
watched cloverfield and would have to say an awesome film.just love the idea of trying to make it real.the only problem I found at the end I was becoming sick with all that camera moving around.

lgans316
05-22-08, 08:57 AM
You watched Cloverfield on Blu-ray or SD DVD ?

Franin
05-22-08, 09:00 AM
You watched Cloverfield on Blu-ray or SD DVD ?

SD actually, it's just been released over here.

shadowrage
05-22-08, 10:38 AM
watched cloverfield and would have to say an awesome film.just love the idea of trying to make it real.the only problem I found at the end I was becoming sick with all that camera moving around.

Told ya so.;)

So your getting the BD right? I bet your totally amped for that TrueHD now.

I can't believe so many people think the camera nauseating. It's like 2/3 of people will say that. I guess the other 1/3 play a lot of videogames.

Franin
05-22-08, 10:44 AM
Told ya so.;)

So your getting the BD right? I bet your totally amped for that TrueHD now.

I can't believe so many people think the camera nauseating. It's like 2/3 of people will say that. I guess the other 1/3 play a lot of videogames.

Yeah will definelty get it. is it region free because a mate of mine wants one to.I have both region players so it's no bother.

BTW how real did it look the whole film? I was very impressed with how they tried to make it all serious and realistic.

shadowrage
05-22-08, 10:55 AM
Yeah will definelty get it. is it region free because a mate of mine wants one to.I have both region players so it's no bother.

BTW how real did it look the whole film? I was very impressed with how they tried to make it all serious and realistic.

according to these guys.
http://www.axelmusic.com/productDetails/097361328546

it's region free. I saw another list around here somewhere that said it was region free.

Do you mean 'Did it look realistic in theaters'? I thought so, they did a good job framing shots despite the amped up Greengrass style. Plus the sense of scale was better when the buildings looked so big on screen. I was impressed with the effects they got with what was probably a very modest budget. Nothing stands out as 'they ran out of money right there'.

Rhoq
05-22-08, 11:01 AM
I prefer to buy 5 candies to 3 for $1.

Depends on the candy, really.

Franin
05-22-08, 11:01 AM
according to these guys.
http://www.axelmusic.com/productDetails/097361328546

it's region free. I saw another list around here somewhere that said it was region free.

Do you mean 'Did it look realistic in theaters'? I thought so, they did a good job framing shots despite the amped up Greengrass style. Plus the sense of scale was better when the buildings looked so big on screen. I was impressed with the effects they got with what was probably a very modest budget. Nothing stands out as 'they ran out of money right there'.

Actual the whole film.I guess what they tried to do was give it a sense of realism, like it was actually happening.Just to give you an idea on SD the sound was amazing so I guess the BD willl be even better.That last bit where they were in the helicpoter and the creature jumped at them made me jump a mile.At home I have a 92" screen so it did come out quite well.

shadowrage
05-22-08, 11:17 AM
Top Gun - July 29
http://www.amazon.com/Top-Gun-Blu-ray-Tom-Cruise/dp/B000RZGIQ8******pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1211469520&sr=8-1
nice.

My link won't work. But it's there on amazon. I guess Transformers will arrive in Aug. then.

Patsfan123
05-22-08, 11:53 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Top-Gun-Blu-ray-Tom-Cruise/dp/B000RZGIQ8/

Franin
05-22-08, 12:45 PM
Top Gun - July 29
http://www.amazon.com/Top-Gun-Blu-ray-Tom-Cruise/dp/B000RZGIQ8******pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1211469520&sr=8-1
nice.

My link won't work. But it's there on amazon. I guess Transformers will arrive in Aug. then.

I remember having it on HD DVD and on some scenes on a clear blu sky there was this line on the left side side of the screen that kept appearing.I know it's an old film but if we look at Warriors which is older the PQ is outstanding.Hopefully Paramount put a bit more of an effort in this time.Transformers will be good,I have it on HD DVD but will buy again on BD especially if they add a new audio track, like dts hd ma 7.1.

Imeldhil
05-22-08, 03:27 PM
anyone knows if cloverfiled continues to "not" ship yet?? really annoying!!

Dave_6
05-22-08, 03:34 PM
anyone knows if cloverfiled continues to "not" ship yet?? really annoying!!

If you are asking about the Blu-ray, the release date isnt until June 3rd.

Imeldhil
05-22-08, 04:00 PM
yeah I know, but com on guys, a LOT of stores normally ship things like 10 days or a week before release date, and still there NO single sotre that has in in stock, not even like.. say some that put "preorder" but when you place your order they let you know they have it, I mean there's NONE that actually do have it. I tough axelmusic getting the back cover andf confimring it was multiregion had it, but nope, no luck therenetiher.

I normally get paramount pictures (well back when they released BD movies) like 2-3 weeks before release date, now there no single word about it.

Dave_6
05-22-08, 04:59 PM
Well I usually only order from Amazon and new releases, 99% of the time, ship out the day before street date.

narcopolo
05-22-08, 08:32 PM
I've never had anything ship until the street date on amazon, and that is rare. Usually it's a few days later. But then I'm not prime either.

JBlacklow
05-23-08, 11:00 AM
Top Gun - July 29The latest version of Home Media Magazine (pages 18-19) confirms the 7/29 date and includes cover art.