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aboursi 04-30-08, 12:18 AM So, I ahven't posted in a while law school keeps me busy but I got my Trainspotting Import today and thought I's post a mini-review for those interested. The disc is perfect visually this is a tough film to grade as it has so much intentional grain but all in all a gorgeous transfer colors spot on and lots of depth to the image. The audio is sounds great though it is a DD 5.1 track I think it's a remaster as I compared it to the old Mirimax and its noticably sharper but so it goes. What's really remarkable are the extras everything from every previous edition of this film is included I read a little Japanese which is helpful but not requisite just drop down to the last selection on the first menu (it reads "extras") and then just scroll down, each entry is a different extra feature all in 480i. Subtitles and aus=dio are fully selectable by pressing audio and sub buttons respectively so no messing around if you don't care to.
All in all a very good purchase and an ample replacement for all previous versions if you don't mind the language of the menu, nice cover art to boot.
Nice one! This is one film I'm hanging for. I'd love uncompressed or one of the new DD or DTS formats. The soundtrack pumps!
Is this the uncut version and does it have the original Scottish dialog and not the redubbed US soundtrack?
Brajesh 04-30-08, 09:30 AM Also, any cuts/censorship on this Japanese release? Thanks.
Nice one! This is one film I'm hanging for. I'd love uncompressed or one of the new DD or DTS formats. The soundtrack pumps!
Specs and coverart indicate that the japanese disc has DTHD.
aboursi,
are you sure it doesn't feature lossless audio? That would be a first for Sony jp.
aboursi 04-30-08, 02:53 PM It is the uncut version as far as I can tell, I know this film pretty well at this point and the time is correct. As for lossless my player indicates no, I could be wrong and it's a very rich sounding DD 5.1 track so it may be my player but it usually lets me know when it's lossless so... It does have all of the original "Scottish" dialog and subtitles where appropriate.
JBlacklow 04-30-08, 03:10 PM It is the uncut version as far as I can tell, I know this film pretty well at this point and the time is correct.The easy way to tell would be if (according to IMDB) it "omits any scenes with genitals" (i.e. no wang or hoo-hahs, to use the vernacular of a 10-year-old), or if the actress in the sex scene with Ewan Macgregor doesn't reach between her legs.
cjefferys 04-30-08, 08:07 PM In Japan, the scenes in question wouldn't be cut, but genitalia may be blurred out. Is this the case with the BD (it would have been pretty noticable if it was)?
aboursi 05-01-08, 02:39 AM No blurring, it's the proper cut.
rexdigital 05-01-08, 04:32 PM I have this recorded in HD on my DVR.
It looks and sounds great, there is little if any compression artifacts which is pretty amazing for HD cable.
for anyone in the U.S. that has Comcast HD service, Trainspotting HD is in the on demand section right now.
I'm waiting for a Blu domestic release, hopefully with all the cool extras of the HD-DVD disc.
swanlee 05-02-08, 01:52 PM I just ordered mine from xploited, they have them in stock now. Another one of my top ten films gets HD treatment.
xploited says it's uncut and has dolby TrueHD 5.1 and DD 2.0.
It also says all regions! :)
lgans316 05-06-08, 12:34 AM Courtesy: kannisto
Some technical info provided by WinDVD9 Plus:
Video stream:
Type: H264
Bitrate: 40.000 Mbps !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Framerate: 23.976 Hz
Resolution: 1920x1080
Aspect ratio: 16x9
Audio stream:
Type: Packed PCM
Bitrate: 2457 Kbps
Number of main channels: 6
LFE Channel: None
Sampling Frequency: 48khz
Bits Per Sample: 24
Disc image size is 35 GB (37 685 755 904 bytes).
Indicated Video and Audio bitrates are some kind of average/target bitrates and actual ones are variable.
It looks pretty clean and good and indeed it's the uncensored version
TrueHD is indicated as Packed PCM by WinDVD.
Wow you American's got a redubbed version of Transpotters? You lose half the charm of the film with that. What American accents did they use? Brooklyn?
Patsfan123 05-06-08, 02:34 AM Wow you American's got a redubbed version of Transpotters? You lose half the charm of the film with that. What American accents did they use? Brooklyn?
Maybe they dubbed some lines, but when I watched it I couldn't understand very well. I had to turn on the subtitles.
juniormaj 05-06-08, 04:00 AM Wow you American's got a redubbed version of Transpotters? You lose half the charm of the film with that. What American accents did they use? Brooklyn?
It was dubbed in "British" English as opposed to "Scottish" to make it easier to understand, so it wasn't massively different, but different nonetheless.
I can't remember specifically, but I think the laserdisc version may have been the only "Scottish Language" release in the US.
Ah I just looked it up, there's not really alot in the dubbed version that was changed, just the opening monologue by Ewan Mcgregor, and that is just redubbed by himself without such a heavy accent.
Wait I have this version on dvd. Are you saying its been dubbed??
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/trainspotting-dvd.jpg
Brajesh 05-06-08, 09:19 AM Decided to order it from xploited. A fun, wild flick. The look of the film is kind of grimey on purpose, but hoping the disc is as good as it appears to be.
cybersoga 05-06-08, 10:22 AM Trainspotting without Ewan Mcgregors Scottish accent? that's like Pulp Fiction without Samuel L. Jackson.
lgans316 05-06-08, 10:09 PM dvdbeaver review is up.
To my eyes the SD vs BD PQ difference seems to be subtle and I am still unsure if it's worth the upgrade.
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews37/trainspotting_blu-ray.htm
msgohan 05-06-08, 11:24 PM Those pics are less than SD res and I believe they're taken off the screen, what do you expect? :eek:
lgans316 05-06-08, 11:28 PM Check out their other comparisons of less than SD res that show great differences.
rexdigital 05-07-08, 02:01 AM It would be great if the eventual blu domestic release had both options for the english audio tracks.
Geoff D 05-07-08, 07:10 AM Ooh, might have to get this. I've never seen the dubbed version so no worries there (d'ya ken me? :D), and even the cover art is closer to the sparse look of the theatrical posters, rather than the day-glo colours of the US packaging (Criterion laserdisc aside).
JBlacklow 05-07-08, 09:59 AM Looks good, but I'm guessing Buena Vista will announce a similar version in the US fairly soon.
Geoff D 05-07-08, 04:13 PM Well, I've gone for this as the BD appears to have most of the extras of the last 2-disc DVD release. If it was barebones I'd have an easier time saying no (like with the Jap BD of To Live And Die In LA - no thanks!!) but I've no excuse to hold out on the high-definition adventures of Renton and co.
PooperScooper 05-14-08, 09:10 AM I watched this disc last night. For the most part PQ is very good. There is some very evident EE/ringing, mostly in distance shots. I didn't go back and look to see if it was the same master as the first or 2nd SD DVD release. I don't recall seeing the issues but it's been a while since I watched the SD DVD. Still, it's the best the movie has looked.
larry
How can you guys say this is a good transfer??? Print is in horrible condition, completely littered with dirt and scratches to the point of distracting. I switched back and forth with the collectors dvd and barely see much difference at all when upscaled. Bluray has bit less EE but SD masks the dirt on the print better. This film is a classic and really deserves a full frame by frame restoration.
FoxyMulder 01-01-09, 03:27 PM It was dubbed in "British" English as opposed to "Scottish" to make it easier to understand, so it wasn't massively different, but different nonetheless.
I can't remember specifically, but I think the laserdisc version may have been the only "Scottish Language" release in the US.
They were using more Glaswegian Scottish in the movie if i recall correctly - Been a few years since i saw it. The opening twenty minutes was redubbed when released in America ( i think )
Anyways it's all dialects across the UK and we all speak English even if you can't understand the dialect. ( of course we also have Gaelic in Scotland and the Welsh have their own language too but still the majority speak english )
Here in the Scottish Borders our language is much milder and probably easier to understand for foreign countries and we have different dialects all over Scotland just like there are different accents in America depending on the City or State you were born in.
Not good if it has EE....I hate EE and it ruined the last movie i watched which was The X Files - Fight The Future.
Might have been funny if they dubbed it into cockney english.
amillians 01-01-09, 04:42 PM Ewen Bremner had to re-dub his (Spud's) job interview, beginning to end, for the U.S. release as well.
JBlacklow 05-08-09, 10:07 AM 4 DVD have announced the UK DVD and Blu-ray Disc release of Trainspotting and Shallow Grave Special Editions on 1st June 2009. Timed around the DVD and Blu-ray Disc release of Slumdog Millionaire, 4DVD present two earlier titles from director Danny Boyle on Special Edition Blu-ray and also on new DVD editions.
Trainspotting boasts a new specially commissioned 40 minute feature with director Danny Boyle, producer Andrew Macdonald, screen writer John Hodge and stars Ewan McGregor, Robert Carlyle, Ewen Bremner and Kelly Macdonald. Shallow Grave features an exclusive new commentary from director Danny Boyle and the never-before-seen documentary ‘Digging Your Own Grave’ shot during the making of the film in 1995.
Priced at £21.99 RRP each on Blu-ray Disc and £15.99 RRP each on DVD, extras are outlined below…
Trainspotting
Blu-ray Disc
* A brand new, specially filmed 40 min feature ‘Memories of Trainspotting’ with Danny Boyle, Andrew Macdonald, John Hodge, Ewan McGregor, Ewen Bremner, Kelly Macdonald and Robert Carlyle.
* Deleted scenes with commentary
* The Look of the Film – Then and Now
* The Sound of the Film – Then and Now
* The Beginning
* Archive Interview with Irvine Welsh
* Behind The Needle
* Danny Boyle on Trainspotting
* Ewan McGregor on Trainspotting
* Cannes Snapshot
* Cannes Vox Pops
* Trailers
* Gallery
* Feature commentary
DVD - The only extra on this release is the new ‘Memories of Trainspotting’ feature.
Shallow Grave
On both the Blu-Ray and DVD releases there is a fly-on-the-wall documentary ‘Digging Your Own Grave’, directed by Kevin Macdonald; it follows brother Andrew Macdonald's production of his debut feature film including comments from cast, crew and extras with emphasis on the main protagonists, and there is a commentary by director Danny Boyle.http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=70626
It'll be interesting to see how this one stacks up. It looks like it's generally the same release, with maybe an additional extra or two (hopefully in NTSC, or even better, HD).
Pugnax555 05-09-09, 10:14 AM http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=70626
It'll be interesting to see how this one stacks up. It looks like it's generally the same release, with maybe an additional extra or two (hopefully in NTSC, or even better, HD).
No idea why they would include NTSC material on a disc released in a PAL region. HD, maybe (which would be nice), but I seriously doubt they'd include NTSC material.
I ended up picking up the barebones Canadian Alliance release from inetvideo a few weeks ago. Haven't really watched it yet, but I did spot-check it quickly. It looks to be a semi-decent transfer, but it could've used a bit of cleaning up (a whole lot of dust was visible from what I saw).
No idea why they would include NTSC material on a disc released in a PAL region. HD, maybe (which would be nice), but I seriously doubt they'd include NTSC material.
I ended up picking up the barebones Canadian Alliance release from inetvideo a few weeks ago. Haven't really watched it yet, but I did spot-check it quickly. It looks to be a semi-decent transfer, but it could've used a bit of cleaning up (a whole lot of dust was visible from what I saw).
It's not outside the realm of possibility. I have several BDs and HD DVDs from the UK, Germany, and The Netherlands, including one from Film 4. All of them have NTSC extras.
There are plenty of discs in those regions that don't have NTSC-friendly extras, but I think it depends on what format the extras themselves were originally produced in.
lgans316 05-31-09, 06:32 PM Review of the UK release. http://www.avforums.com/movies/Trainspotting-Review-UK-Blu-ray-Reviewed-May-2009.html
No lossless audio.
Review of the UK release. http://www.avforums.com/movies/Trainspotting-Review-UK-Blu-ray-Reviewed-May-2009.html
No lossless audio.
I'm glad I got the Japanese Sony release then, though I doubt the DTS track on the UK version sounds much different from a lossless track anyway. It's not like the film has a real modern and bombastic sound design. It's interesting that the reviewer lists so many of the extras as HD; I wonder if that's a mistake because outside of the new feature I would think the extras were done in SD.
starman7 06-04-09, 02:32 PM There are reports that the UK "Trainspotting" bluray is CUT? :confused:
Can anyone confirm?
Are the extras on the Japanese release the same as the UK extras?
Thanks!
PooperScooper 06-04-09, 03:42 PM There are reports that the UK "Trainspotting" bluray is CUT? :confused:
Can anyone confirm?
Are the extras on the Japanese release the same as the UK extras?
Thanks!
Are some of the things discussed earlier in the thread are what you are referring to?
larry
Does anyone have an informed suggestion on wether the japanese is better then the one from canada?
I know its a bigger file size, but I hear conflicting reports, i hear some say the japanese looks very good, some say its not good at all, some say the canadian is very good, some say its not good at all?
I love this movie so i would really like to hear opinions between the two. The uk one is not an option, out of principle i dont buy lossy blue ray.
Also is their any chance of an american release, should I wait, or could i be waiting forever?
Any comments would help alot.
Does anyone have an informed suggestion on wether the japanese is better then the one from canada?
I know its a bigger file size, but I hear conflicting reports, i hear some say the japanese looks very good, some say its not good at all, some say the canadian is very good, some say its not good at all?
I love this movie so i would really like to hear opinions between the two. The uk one is not an option, out of principle i dont buy lossy blue ray.
Also is their any chance of an american release, should I wait, or could i be waiting forever?
Any comments would help alot.
I'm quite happy with my Japanese Sony copy. I think most of the complaints are due to the fact that the film itself just isn't a technical showcase to begin with. Since it's from Sony you know it isn't bit-starved and as far as I can tell it hasn't been hit with the DNR stick, which is something Sony is always good about. I think the only real issue is some people have reported some EE here and there but I honestly don't notice it while watching the film.
Without a new master I doubt it can look any better. I haven't seen the Canadian version, but I'm guessing that it uses the same master as well.
rexdigital 07-16-09, 05:36 PM Its been showing lately on IFC HD.
Recorded it on my DVR to hold me over until an american release.
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