View Full Version : Help me pick a 4:3 SD CRT set, PLEASE!


EscapeVelocity
04-30-08, 02:33 AM
I want to get one to use with legacy gaming systems, while the gettins good.

I dont know where to start.

Toshiba, JVC, Mitsubishi, Hitachi, Sony, Philips, Panasonic

Please help!

EscapeVelocity
04-30-08, 03:37 AM
RCA maybe.

27" or bigger

EscapeVelocity
04-30-08, 03:38 AM
Im leaning Toshiba or RCA.

Buckeye911
04-30-08, 04:03 AM
I want to get one to use with legacy gaming systems, while the gettins good.

I dont know where to start.

Toshiba, JVC, Mitsubishi, Hitachi, Sony, Philips, Panasonic

Please help!

The gettin' has not been good for a long time for SD CRTs. Unless you're buying online your choices are extremely limited, at least if the stores in your area are anything like they are in mine. Around here all I see are RCA, Samsung and some off brands. About the best I've seen here is a 27" Samsung at BB, model # TX-T2782.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8293508&type=product&id=1172880154345

Good luck.

EscapeVelocity
04-30-08, 12:30 PM
Im looking at the used market, but information on past models is difficult to find.

EscapeVelocity
04-30-08, 08:20 PM
What should I expect as far as connections are concerned?

What were the levels of RCA and Toshiba sets? Cinema series, Entertainment series, Theatre series?

What should I look for as far as technology, shadow mask? Trinitron tech? Comb filter?

Wilds
04-30-08, 08:39 PM
This was posted on craigs list in charleston a few days ago. It's HD, but the SD is nice. 36" Sony KD36XS955. They are asking $400, but I bet you could get it for less.

EscapeVelocity
04-30-08, 09:31 PM
Is that a good one?

I was thinking of maybe getting a Widescreen DVD resolution CRT, did they make one of those?

Lucky Ducky
05-01-08, 12:31 AM
Is that a good one?

I was thinking of maybe getting a Widescreen DVD resolution CRT, did they make one of those?


HuH? you said you were looking for 4:3. That 955 is an awesome 4:3 HDTV. I'd snag it for $400, especially if it comes with the stand.

EscapeVelocity
05-01-08, 12:55 AM
Yeah but that is super mega hi pitch.

Im looking for an SD set, but EDTV resolution in Widescreen would be good too. Did they make Widescreen CRT EDTVs?

Lucky Ducky
05-02-08, 10:36 AM
Oh you mean legacy gaming systems like the NES era? If you want SD a great one are the regular 480i Trinitron Sony's. They come with a flat screen and have a great SD picture.

storey13
05-02-08, 04:23 PM
So now you are wanting ED widescreen? In the title you said SD 4:3. Widescreen is not 4:3, widescreen will be 16:9. I don't know of any decent widescreen EDTV's off the top of my head, but if you want a decent widescreen tube, the Sony 30 or 34 Hs series would be good if you do not want super fine pitch, or the Sony 30 or 34 XS series or XBR800 series would be good for super fine pitch sets.

EscapeVelocity
05-02-08, 10:09 PM
Thanks storey, what are the resolution of those widescreen Sonys your listed? Are they EDTVs widescreen?

Lucky Ducky
05-03-08, 10:27 AM
Look over this list of Sony Trinitrons, it shows all the Trinitron's Sony made along with all the specs. Really handy for identifying the Sony's you see for sale.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FD_Trinitron/WEGA

WJonathan
05-03-08, 10:32 AM
You might be surpised at how well the HD Sony tubes display SD input, like old game systems. I wouldn't rule them out.

EscapeVelocity
05-03-08, 01:55 PM
Thanks for the list Lucky Ducky!

Another question: What does MANUAL 16:9 Enhanced and AUTO 16:9 Enhanced mean? Does a set have to be Hi-Scan in order to do Progressive Scan of a DVD?

RalphArch
05-03-08, 02:30 PM
Thanks for the list Lucky Ducky!

Another question: What does MANUAL 16:9 Enhanced and AUTO 16:9 Enhanced mean? Does a set have to be Hi-Scan in order to do Progressive Scan of a DVD?

Looking at the more recent tubes - like the SFPs - you see the only one listed is the 36" 955xs (because the other SFPs are 16:9 models)

This is auto because the tv senses an HD signal and automatically squeezes the vertical scanning into a 16:9 letter box - so you have all the scan lines available but only on the 16:9 portion of the screen (which is 33 inch diagonal)

I believe the manual results in sending black scan lines outside the letter box and is not something sensed by the incoming signal but left to the viewer. This is not an available option on the auto sets - but you can use the zoom control which releases the squeeze albeit with some overscan of the resulting 4:3 view.


For a set like my 36 inch SFP there is no reason to use a progressive DVD. You are better off using a 480i input which then allows the set's DRC controls to fill in the detail (somewhere mentions a 4x enhanced scaling - and you can choose different options like cinemode and interlaced. Only works on 480i material but this is where this tv really shines. (Things like dvd in at 480i - s-video, etc)

EscapeVelocity
05-03-08, 02:55 PM
Im thinking Hi Scan may meet my needs and wants best.

Are Hi Scan sets less reliable than SDTVs?

EscapeVelocity
05-03-08, 05:18 PM
Im leaning Sony, then Panny, then Toshiba, with JVC a distant 4th.

WJonathan
05-03-08, 08:32 PM
Im thinking Hi Scan may meet my needs and wants best.

Are Hi Scan sets less reliable than SDTVs?

I wouldn't get caught up on "Hi-Scan," it was really more of a Sony marketing term than anything. You could make a case that the HD tubes are more complex and therefore less reliable than the SD sets. I think most people here would agree with that generality. But if you find a Sony HD set and it passes your gauntlet of tests, then grab it for a good price. Any used set can pop at any time.

Main things to consider are size/aspect ratio you'll use most, number and type of inputs you need, and a big old TV stand if you get a 30 inch+ model. They're not lightweight. :eek:

Now you may be interested in the Super Fine Pitch sets like the 955 or 960, particularly if you want to use the TV as a Windows hub, or view Bluray movies. They're really spectacular when calibrated.

EscapeVelocity
05-03-08, 10:08 PM
I have a 955 and 960 listed locally, for $400 and $500, respectively. But I really just want legacy video games and dvd compatability.

I have a 42" 1080p LCD, a 852x480 DLP Projector, and am looking to get a 852x480 Panny Commercial Plasma, a Sony CRT Front Projector, and a CRT Driect View. So my main concern with the CRT is legacy gaming, not movie watching or TV watching.