View Full Version : RS-2 stretch modes - works for in-place lens?


kstirman
04-30-08, 02:15 PM
Can someone tell me if the RS-2 provides the necessary stretch modes to allow leaving the lens in place at all times?

I have an ISCO II, and no video processor. I would like to perform all the necessary scaling in the projector.

Some projectors claim stretch for anamorphic lenses, but this is really only if you move the lens out of the way for non 2.35 content. For example, if I send 16:9 content, I should have black bars on the sides, and if I send 4:3, I should have wider black bars.

Unfortunately, there aren't any agreed to naming conventions for all this, so I don't have a better way to ask the question. The information in the manual isn't totally clear, so I'm hoping someone can provide a first hand account.

I do understand that the RS-2 doesn't have a button on the remote to flip between stretch modes - it requires navigating the menu.

Kelly

Alan Gouger
04-30-08, 02:28 PM
Hello Kelly

The stretch mode is a single mode only. You will need to remove the lens to return to
16x9 and turn stretch mode off. In order to leave the lens in place at all times you would also need a 4x3 mode which the RS2 does not have. Most external video processors do offer these modes.

Cameron
04-30-08, 03:55 PM
Yeah it doesn't really work with a lens always on. It is a bit of a clunky interface at this point too as you have to go into a menu to switch the VStretch mode unless I am missing something.

shamus
04-30-08, 04:51 PM
Life would be so much easier if someone would just invent a 2.35 projector. No need for a processor or lens (Thats 5k right there!).

kstirman
05-01-08, 01:43 AM
Thanks guys - I think that rules out the RS2 for me. I'm sure its wonderful, but the all-in costs are too high. With the right modes, I could just about convince myself to stretch to the price.

Guess I'm back to RS1 + scalar. Anyone interested in selling theirs? :)

Thanks,
Kelly

William
05-01-08, 08:07 AM
Life would be so much easier if someone would just invent a 2.35 projector. No need for a processor or lens (Thats 5k right there!).

It would still require a zoom up/stretch mode that would have to be toggled on and off for 2.35 (internal processor) or an external processor to work.

deedubb
05-01-08, 09:49 AM
If you want to consider other projectors, this site is helpful.

http://www.panamorph.com/Compatibility.html

tryingtimes
05-01-08, 11:16 AM
Great link - thanks

Tom Bley
05-01-08, 02:29 PM
I've heard the Sony VPL60 has all the correct stretch modes to leave and anamorphic lens in place. Is this correct?

tryingtimes
05-02-08, 03:54 AM
Yes, correct

kstirman
05-02-08, 08:12 AM
That table would have saved me countless hours a few weeks ago. . . .

The big surprise was that the BenQ 8720 does everything I need, including the right throw, and an offset I can deal with. And refurbed units are available from BenQ for $1600 w/ a 1 year warranty. Someone just sold theirs for $1100.

None of the Marantz are listed, but I think they are not suitable for leave-in-place.

All the Sim2 models are suitable, I believe.

The new Planar 8150 and 8130 are both suitable, I believe.

So, I'm down to 8720, VW60, or 8130/8150.

Or wait to see what comes out at CEDIA . . . .

Kelly

Cameron
05-02-08, 11:07 AM
Are you ready for a projector now? If so, go get one. Waiting for Cedia just prolongs the suffering. :)

tryingtimes
05-02-08, 11:18 AM
Waiting for cedia becomes waiting for the release of the new projector which becomes waiting for reviews of the new projector against its competitors. Which means buying with confidence is still 8 months away or more.
If you already have a good pj, then waiting can be sensible. But the current crop of projectors are so good that you'll be amazed right now and start enjoying films right away!

Cameron
05-02-08, 04:09 PM
tryingtimes is totally right!

kstirman
05-02-08, 04:45 PM
Wait for CEDIA means buy an 8720 to hold me over for the next several months. I think this unit is no slouch.

Unless someone wants to sell me an RS1 for $3200, which would give me budget to get a Lumagen. I'd really like to avoid a scalar, but would make an exception in this case. :)

Kelly

Cameron
05-02-08, 08:44 PM
Sounds good. Hopefully someone will PM you with a deal you can't refuse for a RS1. :D

tryingtimes
05-03-08, 05:34 AM
Thanks for the backup Cameron :)
To be honest, if you ring AVS and say you want a Lumagen and an RS1, it might well be around that price.

Meanwhile, as you say the 8720 is no slouch - It's not for everyone though. I personally haven't liked any of the budgetish DLPs for several reasons. I'm hoping that the new Planars will change my mind, but it's going to be hard to find a demo of them in the UK.