The Blu-ray Alternate Subtitle Language Thread (Chinese) [Text View]

chirpie

04-30-08, 02:27 PM

A quick introduction on where I'm coming from. I speak English and that's it. A lot of friends who visit my house speak Chinese and that's it. So when it comes to watching movies, one of us ends up reading while we watch. :-)

So here's an issue of mine I wouldn't mind trying to fix. As you know, with Blu-ray we're getting more subtitle options than we had before. The problem is, the subtitles included on the disc aren't documented well at all.

For example, I was going see if Mr. and Mrs. Smith had Chinese subtitles on Buy.com:

http://www.buy.com/prod/mr-and-mrs-smith-blu-ray/q/loc/322/203922146.html

The only problem is not all of the subtitles are listed. Heck, Fox's own Blu-ray page offers no info whatsoever on the tech specs of the disc. So you're left trying to find an image of the back cover or trying other sites like Amazon wondering if the listings are accurate. For crying out loud, Kung Fu Hustle has NO Chinese subtitles so I can't leave anything for granted until I have the disc playing and cycle through to see what's actually there. I know a lot of people dog Fox releases, but they consistently have the most subtitle options and for that I'm grateful.

So I would like to try maintaining a list of Blu-rays that contain Chinese subtitles. I think it would be helpful to have threads for the lesser languages to be highlighted and since Chinese is in my household, I would be happy to maintain a list for the discs with Chinese subs if people would post.

Naturally a thread for French or Spanish subtitles would be nearly meaningless since basically all discs have them, but for languages like Portuguese or Thai, this would be helpful for people looking for lesser publicized features if someone would want to start threads for those as well.

So here's my lame first attempt at a list, others are encouraged to join in (and point out any mistakes, there's got to be a lot) :

All that I require is that you have or have viewed the subtitles in yours or someone else's system. Specifically I find most online sources inaccurate in this regard.

Also, it's worth pointing out that this thread is for REGION 1 / North American released discs.

Discs where it is not established whether the characters are traditional or simplified will be left unmarked. A mostly accurate assumption is to expect traditional characters.

Blu-ray Films with Chinese Subtitles

(T) - Traditional Chinese Characters
(S) - Simplified Chinese Characters
(M) - Mandarin (Technically there isn't a written language just for Mandarin, this is most likely Traditional Chinese Characters)
(C) - CANTONESE (NOTE: This tends to be for FOX titles only. Cantonese would indicate certain slang would be included but most have indicated that this is not the case.)

Blu-ray Films with Chinese Subtitles

(AT) - Has an actual Chinese audio track

------------------------------

12 Rounds (C) (M)
20 Million Miles to Earth
21
27 Dresses
28 Days Later
28 Weeks Later
2001: A Space Odyssey (T)
30 Days of Night
50 First Dates (T)
6th Day, The
7 Seconds
7th voyage of Sinbad, The (T)
500 Days of Summer (T)
Across the Universe
Adventureland
Adventures of Baron Munchausen, The
Africa: The Serengeti
Alaska: Spirit of the Wild
Aliens in the Attic (T)(some Cantonese slang in translation)
Alvin and the Chipmunks (C)(T)
Aliens vs Predator : Requiem (C)(T)
All About Steve (T)
Antarctica: An Adventure of a Different Nature
Appleseed: Ex Machina
Arlington Road
Australia (T)(C)
Australia: Land Beyond Time
Avatar:Collector's Edition (C)(M)
Babylon Ad
Batman: The Movie (1966) [Special Edition]
Batman Begins
Battle of Britain
Beetlejuice
Benchwarmers, The (T)
Berlin Concert: Live from the Waldbuhne, The
Big
Big Fish (T)
Black Hawk Down (T)
Blade Runner (T)
Blue Streak
Bonnie and Clyde
Bram Stoker's Dracula (T)
Bride Wars
Broken Arrow (C)
Broken Trail (2006)
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Can't Hardly Wait
Casino
Casino Royale (T)
Celine Dion: Live in Las Vegas - A New Day
Chain Reaction
CJ7 (subtitles AND Chinese Language track)
Cinderella Man
Click (T)
Clockwork Orange, A
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (T)
Closer (T)
Chronicles of Narnia - Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, The (T)
Chronicles of Narnia - Prince Caspian (AT)
Chungking Express (Cantonese audio only, no chinese subtitles, English Subtitles)
Commando
Confession of a Shopaholic
Covenant, The
Cruel Intentions
Cyrus
Daddy Day Care
Daredevil
Day After Tommorrow (C)
Day the Earth Stood Still, The
Dodgeball
Devil's Own, The
Die Hard (C)
Die Hard 2 (C)
Die Hard 3 (With a Vengeance) (C)
Die Hard 4 (Live Free or Die Hard) (C)
Dragon Ball: Evolution (C)(M)
Doubt
The Edge
Elizabeth (S)(T)
Eragon
Eraser
Eyes Wide Shut
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (C)
Fantastic Mr. Fox, The
Fargo (C) (M)
Few Good Men, A (T)
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (T)
Fifth Element, The (T)
Fight Club
Finding Neverland
First Knight
FistFul of Dollars, A (C) (M) NOTE: It looks like the Mandarin is the Taiwanese subtitles so therefore both subtitles are in Traditional (non-simplified) characters
Fly, The
French Connection, The
French Connection 2, The
From Hell
Full Metal Jacket (T)
Gattaca (T)
Get Smart (T)
Ghost Rider (T)
Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, The (C) (M)
Groundhog Day
Hancock
Harry Potter and the Camber of Secrets (T)
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (T)
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (T)
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (T)
Hidalgo
Hitch (T)
Hitman (C)
Horton Hears a Who
House Bunny, The
House of Fury (C) / English Audio, (T) / (S) / English Sub
How the West Was Won
Hulk
Ice Age
I Know What You Did Last Summer
I, Robot (C)
Identity
Independence Day (C)
I STILL Know What You Did Last Summer
Jerry MaGuire
Jewel of the Nile
Jumper
Kill Bill Vol. 1
Kill Bill Vol. 2
Knight's Tale, A (T)
Lakeview Terrace
Layer Cake (T)
Legend of Zorro
Life of Brian
Little Miss Sunshine
Live Free or Die Hard (C)
Lost Boys, The
Love Guru, The
Made of Honor
Man on Fire
Marine 2, The (T)
Marley and Me
Marmaduke (C) (M)
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
Maximum Risk (T)(C)
Max Payne
Meet Dave
Memoirs of a Geisha (T)
Me Myself & Irene
Men in Black
Mr. and Mrs. Smith (C)
Napolean Dynamite
Narnia 2 : Prince Caspian
National Security
National Treasure 2: Book of Secrets
Never Say Never Again
Night At the Museum (C)
Ocean's 13
Office Space
Open Season 2
Paprika
Passion of the Christ, The
Pathfinder (C)
Patton
Perfect Storm, The
Perhaps Love (Audio AND subtitles)
Pineapple Express
Pink Panther, The
Pink Panther 2, The (C) (M)
Point Break
Poltergeist
Post Grad (C) (M)
Predators (C) (M)
Pretty Woman
Proposal, The (T)
Quantum of Solace
Race to Witch Mountain (S) (T)
Reign Over Me
Replacement Killers, The (T)
Resident Evil 3: Extinction (S)
Resident Evil: Degeneration
Robocop (C)
Romancing the Stone
Rookie, The
Ronin
Running with Scissors
Say Anything (C) (M)
Serenity
Shawshank Redemption, The
Shutter
Sideways
Siege, The (C)
Silence of the Lambs, The
Simpson's Movie, The
Sin City
Spiderman
Spiderman 2
Spiderman 3 (T)
Species
Starship Troopers 3
Stealth (T)
Step Brothers
Stranger Than Fiction
Street Kings
Sunshine
Superbad (T)
Super Troopers
S.W.A.T.
Tailor of Panama
Tears of the Sun
Terminator, The (T)
There's Something About Mary (C) (M)
13 Going On 30
This Christmas
Troy: Director's Cut (T)
Ultraviolet (T)
Underworld:Evolution (T)
Unfaithful
Valkyrie
Vanishing Point
Vantage Point
Vertical Limit (T)
Walk Hard
Water Horse: Legend of the Deep, The
What Happens in Vegas
Wild China
Wizard of Oz, The (T)
World is Not Enough, The
X-Files: Fight the Future
X-Files: I want to believe
X-men
X-men 2: X-men United
X-men 3: The Last Stand (new version)
X-men Origins: Wolverine
XXX
You Don't Mess With The Zohan
Young Frankenstein
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Warning titles:

Kung Fu Hustle, Chungking Express - Only has a Cantonese and English track with no Chinese subtitles so the majority of the Chinese population can't view this disc. (Since most don't speak Cantonese)

House of Flying Daggers, Warriors of Heaven and Earth, Curse of the Golden Flower, and Kung Fu Hustle contain no Chinese subtitles of any kind.

Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone: Ultimate Edition and Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets: Ultimate Edition do NOT contain Chinese subtitles despite the inclusion of them on many other Potter titles.

Incorrectly labeled titles:
Happening, The - Says it has Mandarin subs on the case, but it actually DOES NOT.

jling84

04-30-08, 05:10 PM

Thanks for this list! I'd like to share some Blu-Rays with my parents, but they really can't understand English very well, so this is a great help!

hazel_wu

04-30-08, 07:13 PM

Kilian.ca

04-30-08, 07:46 PM

KU Hustle, HoFD, Warriors of Heaven and Earth and Curse of the Golden Flowers, all from Sony do not have any Chinese subtitles.

I already wrote to Paidgeek twice at Blu-ray Forum about the unsatisfactory situation of Chinese films on Blu-ray not having any Chinese subtitles and when they are present, sometimes mislabelled as Cantonese and Mandarin subtitles.

chirpie

04-30-08, 09:48 PM

There's different Chinese options on blu-ray also. Cantonese and Mandarin. Sometimes it's not clear which one is included. Also, a rare example like Resident Evil 3 has simplified Chinese (which is more like a mistake I think, as most other discs released are traditional Chinese and warning cards are still in traditional Chinese). Info like these also helps. Just my suggestion.

I was thinking of an idea of adding a key. S=Simplified, T=Traditional

Maybe to start, I'll only add it to titles we're sure of what the characters are.

I've noticed Fox always labels their subs as Cantonese where as best as I can tell, there's no Cantonese slang present and it should probably be labeled as either traditional or simplified.

Thanks for the help!

chirpie

04-30-08, 09:54 PM

RacingManiac

05-01-08, 03:39 PM

I just rented Superbad yesterday and it does have Traditional Chinese Subtitle....I actually thought it was pretty funny how they translated most of the "organ" related terms in Chinese...:D

chirpie

05-01-08, 05:35 PM

I just rented Superbad yesterday and it does have Traditional Chinese Subtitle....I actually thought it was pretty funny how they translated most of the "organ" related terms in Chinese...:D

Thanks! Updated. :-)

placenta2

05-01-08, 11:43 PM

I update some of your BD list.

(T) - Traditional Chinese Characters
(S) - Simplified Chinese Characters
(C) - CANTONESE
------------------------------

2001: A Space Odyssey(T)
30 Days of Night
The 6th Day
A Clockwork Orange
Across the Universe
Alvin and the Chipmunks(C)(T)
Aliens vs Predator : Requiem(C)(T)
Black Hawk Down(T)
Blade Runner(T)
Bonnie and Clyde
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Casino Royale(T)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind(T)
Day After Tommorrow(C)
The Devil's Own
Eyes Wide Shut
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer(C)
The Fifth Element(T)
First Knight
Full Metal Jacket(T)
Gattaca(T)
Ghost Rider(T)
Harry Potter and the Camber of Secrets(T)
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire(T)
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix(T)
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban(T)
Hitch(T)
Hitman(C)
Independence Day(C)
Ice Age
I - Robot(C)
Jumper
A Knight's Tale(T)
Life of Brian
Live Free or Die Hard(C)
Man on Fire
Mr. and Mrs. Smith(C)
Ocean's 13
Paprika
The Patriot---no Chinese subtitle
Resident Evil 3: Extinction (S)
The Simpson's Movie
Spiderman 3(T)
Stealth(T)
Superbad (T)
Troy: Director's Cut(T)
Ultraviolet(T)
Underworld:Evolution(T)
50 First Dates(T)
The Benchwarmers(T)
Click(T)
Vertical Limit(T)
Big Fish(T)
Layer Cake(T)
Closer(T)
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (T)
A Few Good Men (T)
The Replacement Killers (T)
Memoirs of a Geisha (T)
Bram Stoker's Dracula (T)

Cinema Squid

05-02-08, 12:22 AM

This is definitely interesting stuff. I've been tagging all subtitles on my website as straight "Chinese" since, in my cultural ignorance I did not realize that there was more than one written system (although I am aware of the Mandarin / Cantonese spoken split). If I understand the situation correctly, Traditional Chinese will be the most common character set for U.S. releases?

Part of the problem may be that the three letter language code used to identify the subtitle language on disc is defined by the ISO 639-2 spec, which as far as I know only has a single three-character code "zho" for "Chinese" : Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_639-2_codes), Library of Congress (http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php) (but, hey, at least they have Klingon listed). This is problematic, since it seems the only way to determine the actual script used is to rely on the studios to correctly label their product (ha!) or to actually put eyeballs to the screen.

At the moment, I have 115 titles tagged with "Chinese" subtitles (http://www.cinemasquid.com/MovieList.aspx?SubtitleLanguageId=31), 6 titles with Cantonese audio (http://www.cinemasquid.com/MovieList.aspx?AudioLanguageId=26) and 9 titles with Mandarin audio (http://www.cinemasquid.com/MovieList.aspx?AudioLanguageId=65), if you would like to add these titles to your list to investigate.

Finally, I would like to say that dvdempire.com is probably your best source for "back covers" for whatever that is worth. Anyway, great idea for a thread and it would be interesting to see treatment for other neglected or misunderstood languages that have nuances that we (and the studios!) might not all be aware of.

NoThru22

05-02-08, 08:45 AM

Blu-ray.com allows you to search for movies by Chinese subtitles. :D

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/search.php?keyword=&studioid=&videocodec=&disc=&yearfrom=&yearto=&audio=&subtitles=chinese&submit=Search&action=search

This has been very helpful in finding movies to watch with my girlfriend, like Superbad.

chirpie

05-02-08, 11:37 AM

Stinky-Dinkins

05-02-08, 12:07 PM

I speak English and that's it. A lot of friends who visit my house speak Chinese and that's it.

How the Hell do you talk to your friends?

chirpie

05-02-08, 12:44 PM

How the Hell do you talk to your friends?

LOL, good question. My wife translates. Of course, when you're all drinking beer it doesn't matter in the slightest. ^_^

Stinky-Dinkins

05-02-08, 01:29 PM

chirpie

05-02-08, 02:28 PM

If you piss her off she could really sabotage your conversations.

I know you mentioned Kung Fu Hustle up there. I think the Korean version has simplified Chinese Subs (unless this listing is wrong.)

http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/code-c/section-videos/pid-1004601267/

Also, the Korean version is uncensored, the movie in its original form, the US version has a handful of seconds of violence cut out for whatever reason.

I own the Korean version (it's region free and plays fine on my US PS3.)

If you'd like I can pop it in when I get home from work and verify whether or not it has them (or verify that at least something comes up on the screen when that option is selected, I wouldn't be able to tell if it's actually simplified Chinese as opposed to traditional Chinese, Korean, or Japanese.)

It'd be appreciated. It's easy to tell if it's Chinese VS Korean or Japanese subtitles. If you see a lot of "O" looking characters it's not Chinese and is probably one of the other two. Unlike Chinese and Japanese, Korean actually has an alphabet and you'll see the same characters over and over.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://thinkzone.wlonk.com/Language/Korean.gif&imgrefurl=http://thinkzone.wlonk.com/Language/Korean.htm&h=377&w=470&sz=6&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=zTIeT-Xswp_1DM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkorean%2Balphabet%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

NoThru22

05-02-08, 03:26 PM

chirpie

05-02-08, 05:25 PM

I think the American version of Kung Fu Hustle also has Chinese subs. I know I was pissed that the original Cantonese was only in PCM, so I couldn't have 5.1 with my PS3 (and optical cable.) It was also funny when my girlfriend said, "It's not in Chinese!" and I didn't know what she meant at first.

Actually, it doesn't. We were going to sit down and watch the Blu-ray with my mother-in-law and couldn't. She doesn't speak Cantonese, the disk doesn't have a Mandarin language track, and it didn't have any Chinese subs either.

So we had to watch something else instead. It was kind of embarrassing. :-)

jling84

05-02-08, 06:27 PM

placenta2

05-05-08, 10:10 PM

Actually, it doesn't. We were going to sit down and watch the Blu-ray with my mother-in-law and couldn't. She doesn't speak Cantonese, the disk doesn't have a Mandarin language track, and it didn't have any Chinese subs either.

So we had to watch something else instead. It was kind of embarrassing. :-)

I bought kung fu hustle BD in Taiwan and it has Traditional Chinese subtitle

I think it's Taiwan version BD:)

NoThru22

05-05-08, 10:15 PM

27 Dresses has Chinese subtitles.

chirpie

05-05-08, 11:03 PM

27 Dresses has Chinese subtitles.

Added. Thanks!

syncguy

05-28-08, 05:58 AM

Is there a way to download a subtitle track if a partcular subtitle is not available on a blu-ray disk? Thanks.

hazel_wu

05-28-08, 06:38 AM

A small note about the different Chinese subs is that although they can be subdivided into Cantonese and Traditional or Simplified Mandarin, people who know Cantonese or Mandarin can usually understand all three types of subtitles. I know the Cantonese ones sometimes use diction that may be slightly awkward to Mandarin speakers, they are still comprehensible.

It REALLY depends on the translator. Some Cantonese subtitle uses all kinds of slang that is 50% not readable by people outside of Hong Kong, while other times only 2% of slang is used. Also, there are also the reading speed issue involved. As we know a lot of times subtitles go by really fast. If it's not in your native type of Chinese, an extra 0.3 second needed to understand each line can severly impact the enjoyment of the movie.

tsb

05-28-08, 08:19 AM

I'm pretty sure my Korean KFH has both simplifies and traditional subtitles. Next time I watch a movie I'll try to remember to check

DCSholtis

05-28-08, 02:43 PM

Might want to also keep track of this site:

http://www.asianblurayguide.com/

It's the one SneakerPimp uses on his sig. Been a useful site for me when I look to see if movies have English audio or subs.

chirpie

06-14-08, 10:51 PM

National Treasure 2: Book of Secrets added.

Also, can anyone confirm that Broken Trail has Chinese subtitles? Thanks!

LRZNole

06-14-08, 11:42 PM

Chronicles of Narnia also has chinese subs (traditional not simplified).

stranx44

10-06-08, 06:21 AM

Following onto this defunct thread : http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1024695 , I thought I would continue this effort since I am very interested in chinese subtitled BD releases (my wife is Chinese and isn't fluid in English). Anyhow here's the full database with some recent BDs I've encountered (feel free to add and i'll update this thread regurlarly):

21
2001: A Space Odyssey
27 Dresses
30 Days Of Night
50 First Dates
A Clockwork Orange
A Few Good Men
A Knight's Tale
Across the Universe
Aliens vs Predator : Requiem
Alvin and the Chipmunks
Big Fish
Black Hawk Down
Blade Runner
Bonnie and Clyde
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Casino Royale
Catch and Release
Click
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Closer
Day After Tommorrow
Eyes Wide Shut
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
First Knight
Full Metal Jacket
Gattaca
Ghost Rider
Harry Potter and the Camber of Secrets
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Hitch
Hitman
I, Robot
Ice Age
Identity
Independence Day
Jerry MaGuire
Jumper
Layer Cake
Life of Brian
Live Free or Die Hard
Made of Honor
Man on Fire
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
Me Myself & Irene
Memoirs of a Geisha
Men in Black
Mr. and Mrs. Smith
National Treasure 2: Book of Secrets
Ocean's 13
Paprika
Reign Over Me
Resident Evil 3: Extinction
S.W.A.T.
Spiderman 3
Stealth
Stranger Than Fiction
Street Kings
Sunshine
Superbad
The 6th Day
The Benchwarmers
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
The Devil's Own
The Fifth Element
The Hulk
The Lost Boys
The Love Guru
The Perfect Storm
The Replacement Killers
The Simpson's Movie
The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep
Troy: Director's Cut
Ultraviolet
Underworld:Evolution
Vantage Point
Vertical Limit
What Happens in Vegas
You Don't Mess With The Zohan to the list

NoThru22

10-06-08, 08:40 AM

Add You Don't Mess With The Zohan to the list.

rboster

10-06-08, 08:59 AM

merged existing thread with new thread. In the future, please just bump the existing thread with an update.

Thanks

stranx44

10-06-08, 01:44 PM

thanks...added Zohan...

to mod: why add my list to OP, when he hasn't updated this in 4 months?

chirpie

10-06-08, 02:41 PM

thanks...added Zohan...

to mod: why add my list to OP, when he hasn't updated this in 4 months?

As with all lists of this type, the OP comes back in and updates it when people have posted their changes. If no one posts info to change, the list doesn't get changed.

The tier threads work the same way.

BTW, the first post has been modified. Thanks for the resurrection! :-)

EDIT: I removed the line mentioning Beuna Vista not having any releases with additional subtitle choices outside of English, Spanish, and French as they now have a few in the market...

Jojos

10-06-08, 05:46 PM

Kill Bill Vol. 1 & 2 have Chinese subs : 1 (http://img.gkblogger.com/blog/imgdb/000/000/279/239_3.jpg) 2 (http://img.gkblogger.com/blog/imgdb/000/000/279/240_3.jpg)

chirpie

10-06-08, 10:13 PM

Kill Bill Vol. 1 & 2 have Chinese subs : 1 (http://img.gkblogger.com/blog/imgdb/000/000/279/239_3.jpg) 2 (http://img.gkblogger.com/blog/imgdb/000/000/279/240_3.jpg)

Added. Thanks!

You know, now that I recall, Kill Bill on DVD was one of the few region 1 titles that also had Chinese subs...

chirpie

10-06-08, 10:17 PM

Cinema Squid

10-06-08, 11:24 PM

Hey thanks for updating that post. I'll dig through it when I get a sec... And yes, when in doubt, so far Traditional seems to be the most popular. (Short explanation - More complicated squiggles ^_^)
No problem - I realized I had broken my links since I made that post when reading through the thread today. The unofficial Blu-ray stats thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=760714) is also a good resource to track, since the audio and subtitle listings in that thread are taken from direct disc scans.

I was considering possibly posting subtitle picture snippets in this thread for identification of unspecified Chinese script, if there interest in something like that. I'll have to experiment with the workflow, however, to make sure that it would not be too much of a pain. :)

stranx44

10-08-08, 02:14 AM

well i'm not sure what was added and what was not, but here's my list now:

21
2001: A Space Odyssey
27 Dresses
28 Days Later
28 Weeks Later
30 Days Of Night
50 First Dates
A Clockwork Orange
A Few Good Men
A Knight's Tale
Across the Universe
Aliens vs Predator : Requiem
Alvin and the Chipmunks
Big Fish
Black Hawk Down
Blade Runner
Bonnie and Clyde
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Casino Royale
Catch and Release
Click
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Closer
Day After Tommorrow
Eyes Wide Shut
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
First Knight
Full Metal Jacket
Gattaca
Ghost Rider
Harry Potter and the Camber of Secrets
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Hitch
Hitman
I, Robot
Ice Age
Identity
Independence Day
Jerry MaGuire
Jumper
Kill Bill Vol 1
Kill Bill Vol 2
Layer Cake
Life of Brian
Live Free or Die Hard
Made of Honor
Man on Fire
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
Me Myself & Irene
Memoirs of a Geisha
Men in Black
Mr. and Mrs. Smith
National Treasure 2: Book of Secrets
Ocean's 13
Paprika
Reign Over Me
Resident Evil 3: Extinction
S.W.A.T.
Spiderman 3
Stealth
Stranger Than Fiction
Street Kings
Sunshine
Superbad
The 6th Day
The Benchwarmers
The Devil's Own
The Fifth Element
The Happening * - note it says it is subtitle in Chinese, but I did not find a selection for it?
The Hulk
The Lost Boys
The Love Guru
The Perfect Storm
The Replacement Killers
The Simpson's Movie
The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep
Troy: Director's Cut
Ultraviolet
Underworld:Evolution
Vantage Point
Vertical Limit
Walk Hard
What Happens in Vegas
You Don't Mess with the Zohan

stranx44

10-09-08, 05:12 AM

add

*Casino

chirpie

10-09-08, 09:51 AM

add

*Casino

Added, thanks!

chirpie

10-09-08, 09:52 AM

I was considering possibly posting subtitle picture snippets in this thread for identification of unspecified Chinese script, if there interest in something like that. I'll have to experiment with the workflow, however, to make sure that it would not be too much of a pain. :)

That's totally up to you. If you decide to do it, great! If it ends up being a pain in the butt, hey, no worries.:-)

stranx44

10-09-08, 06:34 PM

Added, thanks!

you're still missing a few from my list above...(re: 28 days, 28 weeks, etc.)...

chirpie

10-09-08, 06:52 PM

you're still missing a few from my list above...(re: 28 days, 28 weeks, etc.)...

OK, now I think I caught them all.

Also the alphabetizing has been modified. All articles dropped from titles and moved to the end.

stranx44

10-10-08, 03:06 AM

add :

Species

note: The Happening BD Cover says it has chinese subtitles, however when i viewed the movie, it did not have anyone. If someone can confirm this...

gethd

10-10-08, 06:34 AM

I am under the impression that anything released by Fox does have Chinese and several other Asian language subtitles, please let know if there is exception.

Cinema Squid

10-10-08, 11:32 AM

I am under the impression that anything released by Fox does have Chinese and several other Asian language subtitles, please let know if there is exception.
There are definitely a number of exceptions to this - one recent example being The Happening which only has English/Spanish subtitles. Other Fox discs without Chinese subtitles that I own or have rented include Juno, Kingdom of Heaven, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Meet the Spartans, Mr. Magorium and The Transporter films. I imagine there are plenty of others.

chirpie

10-13-08, 03:24 PM

Went through the list and compared it to some online sources and came up with these. Added them, but always appreciate those who own the discs to double check.

Africa: The Serengeti

Alaska: Spirit of the Wild

Antarctica: An Adventure of a Different Nature

Appleseed: Ex Machina

Australia: Land Beyond Time

Batman: The Movie (1966) [Special Edition]

Battle of Britain

The Berlin Concert: Live from the Waldbuhne

Broken Arrow

Broken Trail (2006)

Celine Dion: Live in Las Vegas - A New Day

Commando

dani1209

10-14-08, 08:53 PM

"Batman Begins" has Chinese subtitle also!!

dani1209

10-14-08, 09:03 PM

Can someone confirm does Die Hard series Blu-Ray all has Chinese Subtitle as they post on Blu-Ray.com?

Thanks!!

chirpie

10-14-08, 10:41 PM

"Batman Begins" has Chinese subtitle also!!

Added. I'll wait until someone chimes in on the Diehard subs before I add them.

Cinema Squid

10-15-08, 10:32 AM

Added. I'll wait until someone chimes in on the Diehard subs before I add them.
Die Hard 1-3 definitely have them (marked as Cantonese subs on box and in menus). Not sure about Die Hard 4 since I don't have that one, but its back cover (http://www.dvdempire.com/Exec/v4_item.asp?item_id=1365009&tab=5&back=1&anchor=1#topoftabs) looks the same as the others, so it probably does as well.

stranx44

10-17-08, 01:20 AM

Can confirm that these have Chinese subtitles:

- Die Hard 1-4
- Broken Arrow
+ Chain Reaction (please add)

dani1209

10-17-08, 02:11 AM

I just confirmed Spider Man 1-3 all have Chinese Subtitle! What I have is the trilogy box set with 3 individual Blu-Ray case, hope they are same as if you buy they one by one.

stranx44

10-20-08, 03:07 PM

Confirmed The Terminator has chinese...

chirpie

10-20-08, 07:06 PM

Thanks everyone, following titles added:

Chain Reaction

Die Hard (C)
Die Hard 2 (C)
Die Hard 3 (With a Vengeance) (C)
Die Hard 4 (Live Free or Die Hard) (C)

Spiderman
Spiderman 2

stranx44

10-22-08, 02:56 AM

Add:

- The Terminator
- Tears of the Sun

stranx44

10-25-08, 10:47 PM

add

- Tailor of Panama

tsb

10-26-08, 08:57 AM

the Casino BD has Chinese subs? sweet

now, did Uni rape it like they did the Thing or is it as good or better thn the HD DVD?

thanks God I didn't let any of my Uni titles go when I dropped HD DVD

just saved $40 on the matrix collection since the bd encodes aren't any better and have a 3 frame glitch

thank god for hd dvd

chirpie

10-26-08, 09:23 AM

add

- Tailor of Panama

- The Terminator
- Tears of the Sun
- Tailor of Panama

Added.

Thanks!

stranx44

10-27-08, 05:16 AM

add

- Finding Neverland
- Patton

masterxan

10-27-08, 02:44 PM

masterxan

10-30-08, 11:22 AM

i went to DVDempire.com and found out from the back of the Casino Royale Collector's Edition that it doesn't have Chinese subs.

I hope that's a typo or something cause I really want to buy the best version of this movie.

stranx44

11-01-08, 01:03 AM

add:

- Daddy Day Care

chirpie

11-01-08, 12:45 PM

i know it's a dumb question but i gotta know....

the info in this thread pertains to the NA releases right? cause if this list is indeed for NA releases, I can't believe how inaccurate High Def Digest really is. I never knew Die Hard 1-4 or Casino Royale had Chinese subs.

Yes, there's a small blurb in the first post that says unless otherwise stated, these are all NA releases. (It's easy to miss)

As for your observation, they absolutely do. My mother-in-law sat in my theater and watched Casino Royale (the original release, not sure about the new one) with Chinese subs. ^_^

chirpie

11-01-08, 12:47 PM

add:

- Daddy Day Care

Added. Thanks!

stranx44

11-04-08, 09:32 PM

Add:

-Point Break

chirpie

11-05-08, 01:23 AM

Add:

-Point Break

Added.

masterxan

11-20-08, 03:58 PM

can someone confirm if batman begins has Chinese subs?

masterxan

11-24-08, 02:24 PM

Let me bump this thread by answering my own question :D

I can't confirm it personally but DVDEmpire.com has a pic of the back cover and it does have Chinese subs.

http://www.dvdempire.com/Exec/v4_item.asp?userid=99366432791008&item_id=1403160&tab=5&date=397765996296296&anchor=1#topoftabs

stranx44

11-25-08, 03:16 AM

Add:

- Young Frankenstein
- This Christmas

chirpie

11-25-08, 05:54 PM

Add:

- Young Frankenstein
- This Christmas

Added, thank you good sir. :-)

stranx44

11-25-08, 08:44 PM

Good news:

add - Hancock!

chirpie

11-26-08, 09:43 AM

Good news:

add - Hancock!

Alright! The more tent pole films the better. :-)

added.

stranx44

12-03-08, 11:50 PM

add:

- Narnia 2 : Prince Caspian
- X-Files: I want to believe

chirpie

12-04-08, 01:31 AM

added, thanks!

stranx44

12-06-08, 02:50 AM

add:

- Meet Dave

NoThru22

12-06-08, 10:03 AM

Add Step Brothers.

chirpie

12-06-08, 11:55 AM

Both added, thanks!

stranx44

12-09-08, 02:22 AM

add:

- Running with Scissors (weird movie)
- Poltergeist
- Horton hears a Who

friedriceballer

12-09-08, 03:08 PM

Did a quick search and didn't find anything.

Anybody have any info on Fearless (Blu-ray) and if it has Chinese subs? 'Cause I for one have craptastic Mandarin listening skills, although I would prefer to read Chinese subs instead of English subs.

stranx44

12-09-08, 10:28 PM

chirpie

12-11-08, 12:36 PM

List updated. Dodgeball added.

stranx44

12-13-08, 05:37 AM

friedriceballer

12-13-08, 12:33 PM

Got it today..sorry only English subs and Mandarin audio (no English)..

Thanks, looks like it's gonna be a rental for me...

chirpie

12-13-08, 05:13 PM

Super Troopers added.

(keep it up Fox!)

stranx44

12-16-08, 09:37 PM

Add:

- CJ7 (Chinese Audio and subtitles, as well as English)
- The Legend of Zorro

Also, just a little rant.....Mummy 3 : TODE has the #1 Chinese male actor (Jet Li) and #2 Chinese (well Malaysia) female actor (Michelle Yeoh) in a movie based in China about China, yet has NO Chinese audio OR subtitles. Sad.....

stranx44

12-20-08, 02:51 AM

Add:

- Perhaps Love (Audio and subtitles)
- The House Bunny

tsb

12-20-08, 07:11 AM

stranx44

12-20-08, 03:56 PM

Taiwan version does. ;)

we get all the new releases now,but very few catalog titles :(

I would hope the Taiwan version has it, but doesn't help US folks too much here. :( I assume you are region 3?

stranx44

12-20-08, 03:56 PM

Add:

- Shutter
- Starship Troopers 3

chirpie

12-23-08, 04:47 PM

ADDED:

Resident Evil: Degeneration

stranx44

12-23-08, 07:10 PM

ADDED:

Resident Evil: Degeneration

You missed:

- Perhaps Love (Audio and subtitles)
- The House Bunny
- Shutter
- Starship Troopers 3

Also add:

Chungking Express (Chinese audio only - English subs)

chirpie

12-24-08, 09:58 AM

Chungking Express (Chinese audio only - English subs)

Again, that's just annoying. Yet another film I can't watch with my Chinese friends because they don't speak Cantonese and they don't read English. This is true for the MAJORITY of Chinese people who speak Mandarian for crying out loud...

tsb

12-24-08, 08:43 PM

Again, that's just annoying. Yet another film I can't watch with my Chinese friends because they don't speak Cantonese and they don't read English. This is true for the MAJORITY of Chinese people who speak Mandarian for crying out loud...

While I agree with you, I'm just happy to have this film on BD. Perhaps the release in a different region/country will have Chinese subs and/or Mandarin audio.

tsb

12-25-08, 08:37 AM

How the West Was Won has Chinese subs. I didn't even noticed on the first viewing, but I watched it again tonight and saw them when I switched to TrueHD.

Woohoo!

tsb

12-25-08, 10:54 AM

Can anyone confirm their copy of Bonnie and Clyde has Chinese subs? I just put mine in to watch and it definitely does not have Chinese subs despite being on the list. I will ask Warner for an exchange if it turns out some copies do have Chinese subs. Maybe someone got it confused with HTWWW which definitely does have Chinese subs.

tsb

12-25-08, 07:32 PM

I would hope the Taiwan version has it, but doesn't help US folks too much here. :( I assume you are region 3?

No, Taiwan is region A, just like the US. Region 3 for DVD though.

stranx44

12-27-08, 03:02 AM

Add:

Hidalgo

stranx44

12-27-08, 07:27 PM

Add:

- The Shawshank Redemption

tsb

12-27-08, 10:29 PM

has anyone confirmed Bonnie and Clyde?

sycho316

12-29-08, 03:00 PM

The Fly has Cantonese subs.

chirpie

12-29-08, 10:08 PM

Very humble apologies TSB, someone PMed me that Bonnie and Clyde had Chinese subs.

I checked their location and it said UK, so I checked Bonnie and Clyde on a few UK sites... those sites do list it as having Chinese subs so this may have been a region error. I will continue to look into it. In the meantime, since this list is for North American Region 1 discs, I've taken it off the list just in case.

ADDEDD:

The Fly

Hidalgo

How the West Was Won

The Shawshank Redemption

stranx44

01-03-09, 05:29 AM

add:

-Eragon

tsb

01-03-09, 09:55 AM

add- From Hell

chirpie

01-03-09, 12:52 PM

Eragon
From Hell
-------
Both added, thanks!

AsaHoo

01-03-09, 02:20 PM

Great thread. This list is definitely the most comprehensive I've seen online.

Night at the Museum has Cantonese subtitles.

chirpie

01-03-09, 04:16 PM

Great thread. This list is definitely the most comprehensive I've seen online.

Night at the Museum has Cantonese subtitles.

Thanks! Added. :-)

diablo9394

01-03-09, 05:33 PM

Please add:

Patton
The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian

chirpie

01-05-09, 10:09 AM

Please add:

Patton
The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian

Added.

stranx44

01-06-09, 12:30 PM

Please add:

Patton
The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian

Added.

These were already identified on page 2 and 3. :confused:

You are still missing a couple i noted including:

- Finding Neverland
- Legend of Zorro

Also add:

- X-Files: Fight the Future

chirpie

01-06-09, 03:32 PM

These were already identified on page 2 and 3. :confused:
You are still missing a couple i noted including:
- Finding Neverland
- Legend of Zorro

Maybe I missed it, maybe the update was lost in one of the database losses a few weeks (months?) ago, oh well.

Also add:

- X-Files: Fight the Future

Added.

stranx44

01-06-09, 06:04 PM

Maybe I missed it, maybe the update was lost in one of the database losses a few weeks (months?) ago, oh well.

Added.

No worries.

Add:

- Babylon AD
- Pineapple Express

chirpie

01-06-09, 07:32 PM

No worries.

Add:

- Babylon AD
- Pineapple Express

Added.

stranx44

01-15-09, 12:37 AM

Add:

- The Pink Panther
- Serenity

NoThru22

01-15-09, 09:02 AM

Ooo my girl will love Pineapple Express. She loved Superbad and Knocked Up (despite the latter's lack of Chinese subs.)

chirpie

01-16-09, 02:48 PM

Add:

- The Pink Panther
- Serenity

Added.

Also added:

Max Payne

stranx44

01-21-09, 05:49 AM

Add:

13 Going On 30

chirpie

01-21-09, 11:42 PM

Add:

13 Going On 30

Added, thanks!

tsb

01-22-09, 09:18 AM

please confirm night at the museum
I'm fairly certain my us copy doesn't have chinese subs

stranx44

01-22-09, 06:43 PM

please confirm night at the museum
I'm fairly certain my us copy doesn't have chinese subs

Already confirmed. US release of Night at the Museum has Chinese subs...

chirpie

01-24-09, 06:03 PM

Groundhog Day added. (yeah!)

Cinema Squid

01-24-09, 06:39 PM

I finally got around to trying my subtitle extraction experiment and I present my first results from Horton Hears a Who which lists "Cantonese" and "Mandarin" subs on the box.

For the following images, I took the first 25 frames from the two listed Chinese subtitle streams and put them into animated GIF files. Hopefully that's a sufficient number in most cases for identifying the language. I wouldn't exactly call the process of creating these "easy", but if anyone thinks this might be useful for verifying the languages I can make more and also explain how I created them.

Chinese Subs 1:
http://media.cinemasquid.com/misc/horton-sub-chinese-11.gif
Chinese Subs 2:
http://media.cinemasquid.com/misc/horton-sub-chinese-12.gif

Kilian.ca

01-25-09, 03:42 PM

They are both Traditional Chinese and would be readily understood in HK and Taiwan but if spoken would be in Taiwan. Subtitle 1 perhaps has a hint of HK-ese expression but is not really Cantonese dialect when spoken. It sounds very odd.

I have never seen a movie or TV drama from anywhere (including HK) which has Cantonese dialect written out as subtitles. There is no such thing as Cantonese subtitle. Only someone ignorant of the lingo from studios would use that label.

I can tell which is which, TC or SC, usually with one line.

chirpie

01-27-09, 10:09 AM

Heya Squid, thanks for the efforts.

Open Season 2 added.

stranx44

01-28-09, 02:37 AM

Add:

- Lakeview Terrace

chirpie

02-01-09, 02:41 PM

ADDED:

Unfaithful
Lakeview Terrace

stranx44

02-04-09, 12:28 AM

Add:

- Sideways

stranx44

02-09-09, 01:54 AM

Add:

- House of Fury (Cantonese / English Audio, Traditional / Modern Chinese / English Subtitles)....

chirpie

02-10-09, 05:42 PM

ADDED:
Sideways
House of Fury

ALSO ADDED:
Office Space

stranx44

02-20-09, 01:26 AM

Add:

-National Security

stranx44

02-21-09, 05:06 AM

Add:

- Ronin

chirpie

02-21-09, 02:20 PM

Ronin and National Security added, thanks!

chirpie

02-24-09, 03:55 PM

The French Connection added.

stranx44

02-24-09, 11:52 PM

Add:

- The Rookie
- The Passion of Christ
- Napolean Dynamite

howodd

02-25-09, 01:59 AM

chirpie

02-25-09, 10:20 AM

Add:

- The Rookie
- The Passion of Christ
- Napolean Dynamite

Added, thanks!

chirpie

02-25-09, 10:21 AM

stranx44

02-25-09, 01:19 PM

hey everyone,

thanks for doing this. i'm a US expat in taiwan and have a chinese girlfriend.
i had a similar problem with finding north american SD DVDs with traditional chinese subtitles while living here.

now if i want to order a NA blu-ray disc, i'm encountering the same problems again. thankfully, yesasia.com has a great and highly configurable search engine. i don't necessarily order from them; i just use their inventory as a reference.

just click on blu-ray, traditional chinese subtitles and US version and it will filter out all the discs that meet those criteria. of course, this also works with SD DVDs.

i can't post the link because this is my first post. =(

hope this helps!

btw, the filters only come up if you select a specific movie area: ie. western / world

Be forewarned, it does not list Chinese subtitles for American movies properly. I just did a search on The Passion of Christ (http://www.yesasia.com/us/the-passion-of-the-christ-blu-ray-2-disc-setwidescreen-us-version/1013054437-0-0-0-en/info.html) and noticed that it did not list Chinese subtitles, which i can confirm is in there:

Product Title: The Passion of the Christ (Blu-ray) (2-Disc SetWidescreen) (US Version)
Also known as: The Passion
Artist Name(s): James Caviezel (Actor) | Monica Bellucci (Actor) | Mattia Sbragia (Actor) | Maia ******stern (Actor) | Caleb Deschanel | John Debney | Benedict Fitzgerald | Enzo Sisti
Director: Mel Gibson
Producer: Bruce Davey | Brian Volk-Weiss
Manage My Personalized Product Alerts
Blu-ray Region Code: A - Americas (North, Central and South except French Guiana), Korea, Japan, South East Asia (including Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan) What is it?
Release Date: 2009-02-17
Language: Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin
Subtitles: English, Spanish
Country of Origin: United States
Color Information: Color
Disc Format(s): Blu-ray

stranx44

02-25-09, 11:25 PM

Add:

- Little Miss Sunshine
- Cruel Intentions
- The Covenant
- XXX

chirpie

03-01-09, 10:05 PM

Add:

- Little Miss Sunshine
- Cruel Intentions
- The Covenant
- XXX

Added.

Also added:

Vanishing Point

sadako415

03-04-09, 09:01 PM

ADD:

Australia (traditional Chinese font, also has both "Mandarin" and "Cantonese"... couldn't really tell the difference...)

chirpie

03-04-09, 10:38 PM

ADD:

Australia (traditional Chinese font, also has both "Mandarin" and "Cantonese"... couldn't really tell the difference...)

Added. Thanks!

stranx44

03-09-09, 09:55 PM

Add:

-Daredevil

chirpie

03-11-09, 11:06 PM

Add:

-Daredevil

Added.

Also added..

The French Connection 2

stranx44

03-13-09, 10:42 PM

Add:

- Eraser

chirpie

03-14-09, 02:34 PM

Add:

- Eraser

Added.

AsaHoo

03-15-09, 07:13 PM

AsaHoo

03-15-09, 07:23 PM

Also, here's an additional point of clarification. Broken Arrow has Cantonese subtitles only. Thanks.

chirpie

03-16-09, 03:52 PM

Please add the BBC series "Wild China" as having Traditional Chinese subtitles.

And I'm not sure if you want to include imports but "Red Cliff" (part 1) has both Traditional and Simplified Chinese subtitles while "Ip Man" has Traditional subtitles.

Thanks!

Wild China added, thanks!

Currently, the scope of the thread is for Region 1 discs only, but thanks for the heads up on the other 2 titles...

chirpie

03-16-09, 03:53 PM

Also, here's an additional point of clarification. Broken Arrow has Cantonese subtitles only. Thanks.

Clarification noted.

Also added:

Silence of the Lambs

stranx44

03-21-09, 03:20 AM

Add:

- Romancing the Stone
- Jewel of the Nile

chirpie

03-23-09, 09:43 AM

Add:

- Romancing the Stone
- Jewel of the Nile

Added.

chirpie

03-23-09, 07:09 PM

Quantum of Solace added.

Since Casino Royale had Chinese subs, I was glad they finished it out with this release.

stranx44

03-24-09, 06:09 PM

Quantum of Solace added.

Since Casino Royale had Chinese subs, I was glad they finished it out with this release.

Good to hear. I should have mine to watch today as well.

rover2002

03-24-09, 09:05 PM

Are the subs in QoC in the picture or black bar area?
Thanks

stranx44

03-25-09, 12:28 AM

Add:

- 007: The World is not Enough
- Bolt (Chinese subs and sounds)

hazel_wu

03-25-09, 11:02 AM

Add:

- 007: The World is not Enough
- Bolt (Chinese subs and sounds)

Are you saying that the US version of Bolt Blu-ray have Chinese audio and subs??? I haven't opened mine but neither Chinese audio nor sub is listed on the box.

chirpie

03-25-09, 06:16 PM

Add:

- 007: The World is not Enough
- Bolt (Chinese subs and sounds)

Added "World."

Is this true about Bolt? To the best of my knowledge that would make this the first Disney film to have Chinese subs....

chirpie

03-25-09, 06:18 PM

Added: Never Say Never Again

stranx44

03-26-09, 02:28 AM

Are you saying that the US version of Bolt Blu-ray have Chinese audio and subs??? I haven't opened mine but neither Chinese audio nor sub is listed on the box.

Correct it has chinese audio (supposedly Taiwanese according to the pulldown and subtitiles). After 400+ blu rays, I think i know the difference.. ;)

stranx44

03-26-09, 02:28 AM

Are the subs in QoC in the picture or black bar area?
Thanks

They're in the picture...

Dan Average

03-26-09, 03:16 AM

Correct it has chinese audio (supposedly Taiwanese according to the pulldown and subtitiles). After 400+ blu rays, I think i know the difference.. ;)

I would assume they mean Taiwanese Mandarin with traditional subs. The odds of Disney bothering to dub and subtitle a movie in Taiwanese are basically zero.

rover2002

03-26-09, 03:41 AM

They're in the picture...

Good news thanks.

sadako415

03-26-09, 12:35 PM

Add:

- 007: The World is not Enough
- Bolt (Chinese subs and sounds)

I don't know what version of Bolt you watched, but Netflix sent me my copy yesterday which I'm watching right now, there are no Chinese subs or sounds anywhere to be found...

hazel_wu

03-26-09, 03:04 PM

Correct it has chinese audio (supposedly Taiwanese according to the pulldown and subtitiles). After 400+ blu rays, I think i know the difference.. ;)

from Sadako415
I don't know what version of Bolt you watched, but Netflix sent me my copy yesterday which I'm watching right now, there are no Chinese subs or sounds anywhere to be found...

There is a problem that causes confusion for everyone contributing. I suggest Chirpie to rephrase the rule for this thread to clarify whether we are talking about the US version or Canada version as it only says "North American" right now and Canada may be using different discs.
Problem like this would happen from someone contributing Bolt BD for "Canada, Asia & Latin America" which does include Canada which is part of "north America", but is different from the US version. I'm not sure how many titles in the list right now are for Canada and not US at this time but I think it's better to clarify so it won't confuse other readers.

chirpie

03-26-09, 04:44 PM

There is a problem that causes confusion for everyone contributing. I suggest Chirpie to rephrase the rule for this thread to clarify whether we are talking about the US version or Canada version as it only says "North American" right now and Canada may be using different discs.
Problem like this would happen from someone contributing Bolt BD for "Canada, Asia & Latin America" which does include Canada which is part of "north America", but is different from the US version. I'm not sure how many titles in the list right now are for Canada and not US at this time but I think it's better to clarify so it won't confuse other readers.

You know, that's a very good suggestion. It's a bit of ignorance on my part since it's somewhat uncommon (or so I thought) to have a separate release version for Canada VS the US. (outside of packaging, ratings, etc.) I'll give others a day or two to come up with a counter argument. For now, how's this sound?

"This thread is for North American Blu-ray releases only. Unless Specified, all releases are the US disc versions of the film."

Then, in the instance of Bolt, we can put in parentheticals, (Found on Canadian release ONLY)

If someone has a suggestion for a clearer way to say it, I'm all ears. :-) I'll amend the first post after people weigh in.

stranx44

03-26-09, 05:15 PM

Then, in the instance of Bolt, we can put in parentheticals, (Found on Canadian release ONLY)

FYI - My Bolt is US release. I ONLY look at US release for all the titles i mentioned (no Canadian, Taiwanese, Hong Kong, etc.)

stranx44

03-26-09, 05:17 PM

I don't know what version of Bolt you watched, but Netflix sent me my copy yesterday which I'm watching right now, there are no Chinese subs or sounds anywhere to be found...

Where did you get your Netflix from? I have the US release and even confirmed it last night as my wife and i watched and listened (hysterically) to the Chinese audio version. Yes, the box doesn't list Chinese, but it's there in the actual BD.

chirpie

03-26-09, 05:31 PM

chirpie

03-26-09, 05:38 PM

FYI - My Bolt is US release. I ONLY look at US release for all the titles i mentioned (no Canadian, Taiwanese, Hong Kong, etc.)

Added. Until it's proved otherwise, it's there. ^_^

.....

Removed. I'll wait for this one to shake out...

hazel_wu

03-26-09, 06:25 PM

Where did you get your Netflix from? I have the US release and even confirmed it last night as my wife and i watched and listened (hysterically) to the Chinese audio version. Yes, the box doesn't list Chinese, but it's there in the actual BD.

If your disc doesn't match the box, that is the sign that you didn't get US version disc. You most likely got the Canadian version disc in a US version box. (manufacturing mistakes perhaps?) Does it have BD-Live features. Disney only have BD-Live for US discs right now.

My friends and me got the US BD from Best Buy and Toys R Us and Target and there is no Chinese.

Besides BD-Live, your disc has a lot more audio (eight total, I know it even without anyone telling me) and subtitles than the US disc, which only has English and Spanish. Actually your disc is more attractive then the real US version for people that prefer to have Chinese on the disc.

stranx44

03-27-09, 04:43 AM

If your disc doesn't match the box, that is the sign that you didn't get US version disc. You most likely got the Canadian version disc in a US version box. (manufacturing mistakes perhaps?) Does it have BD-Live features. Disney only have BD-Live for US discs right now.

My friends and me got the US BD from Best Buy and Toys R Us and Target and there is no Chinese.

Besides BD-Live, your disc has a lot more audio (eight total, I know it even without anyone telling me) and subtitles than the US disc, which only has English and Spanish. Actually your disc is more attractive then the real US version for people that prefer to have Chinese on the disc.

How exactly are you verifying that you don't have chinese subs / audio? I run all my BD's on my HTPC, validate them all with BDINFO which extracts all video, audio, and subtitle information for me to readily see. Afterwards, I run the BD through PowerDVD and confirm that they have the appropriate audio/subtitles.

PS - There are also various BD titles which state they have Chinese on the box (e.g., The Happening), but don't otherwise with the disk. Don't rely on the box alone.

hazel_wu

03-27-09, 08:28 AM

How exactly are you verifying that you don't have chinese subs / audio? I run all my BD's on my HTPC, validate them all with BDINFO which extracts all video, audio, and subtitle information for me to readily see. Afterwards, I run the BD through PowerDVD and confirm that they have the appropriate audio/subtitles.

PS - There are also various BD titles which state they have Chinese on the box (e.g., The Happening), but don't otherwise with the disk. Don't rely on the box alone.

There is a Setup section on the disc when you play the disc to see what audio and subtitles are available. I know box info is not accurate but Setup section on the disc is 99.9% accurate otherwise it should not pass quality check.

I do believe you that you have Chinese on YOUR disc because such discs do exist, just not meant for the US market.

You haven't really answered if your disc have BD-Live, which is stated on the US box, but most likely absent on your disc.

We aren't really talking about whether YOUR disc have Chinese, but whether your disc is the US version.

Last thing I can tell you, which I will just PM you, which will hopefully convince you.

stranx44

03-27-09, 07:53 PM

Add:

- Pretty Woman

stranx44

03-27-09, 07:57 PM

Hazel may be right. This may be a mfg. screwup that somehow i got a Canadian release disc in a US Box. Be forewarned.

There is a Setup section on the disc when you play the disc to see what audio and subtitles are available. I know box info is not accurate but Setup section on the disc is 99.9% accurate otherwise it should not pass quality check.

I do believe you that you have Chinese on YOUR disc because such discs do exist, just not meant for the US market.

You haven't really answered if your disc have BD-Live, which is stated on the US box, but most likely absent on your disc.

We aren't really talking about whether YOUR disc have Chinese, but whether your disc is the US version.

Last thing I can tell you, which I will just PM you, which will hopefully convince you.

sadako415

03-28-09, 03:11 AM

Where did you get your Netflix from? I have the US release and even confirmed it last night as my wife and i watched and listened (hysterically) to the Chinese audio version. Yes, the box doesn't list Chinese, but it's there in the actual BD.

Uhh... where did I get my Netflix from? The mailbox? Sorry I'm not trying to be an ass but I don't really understand the question...

I don't have the BD disk with me anymore since I sent it back to Netflix to get my next movie, but I'm 100% sure it didn't have Chinese of any kind (looked through all the options in the settings). I was actually pretty excited at first to see from the forum that Bolt supposedly had Chinese on it cuz I hate having to explain the movie for non-English speakers in the house...

NoThru22

03-29-09, 11:48 AM

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but it's constantly updating. You can also use it to verify other people's claims.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/search.php?action=search&subtitles=Chinese&sortby=

chirpie

03-29-09, 10:41 PM

Add:

- Pretty Woman

Added.

chirpie

03-30-09, 02:16 PM

Marley and Me added.

kayleus_f

04-04-09, 04:13 AM

So.. I just bought 'The Happening' on BD recently. It clearly says that it supported Mandarin subtitles.. the whole reason why I bought it. But of course, popping it into my ps3, there were only English and French. Go figure. Anyway, thought I'd share that, plus hopefully someone would be able to confirm that as well. That would be much appreciated.

stranx44

04-05-09, 04:14 AM

kayleus_f

04-05-09, 04:58 PM

I noted on this page 2 already:

I probably should've read all the posts before I bought the movie. But thanks for confirming that.

sadako415

04-08-09, 04:01 PM

Add:

-Doubt

chirpie

04-08-09, 07:17 PM

I probably should've read all the posts before I bought the movie. But thanks for confirming that.

I went ahead and moved the listing of the film from the spot inside the list that said "looking for confirmation" to the bottom of the list that now says:

Incorrectly labeled titles:
Happening, The - Says it has Mandarin subs on the case, but it actually DOES NOT.

chirpie

04-08-09, 07:18 PM

Add:

-Doubt

Added, thanks!

Also Added:

The Day the Earth Stood Still

Cinema Squid

04-08-09, 07:28 PM

Where did you get your Netflix from? I have the US release and even confirmed it last night as my wife and i watched and listened (hysterically) to the Chinese audio version. Yes, the box doesn't list Chinese, but it's there in the actual BD.
That's really weird - I also rented it from Netflix and the only audio/sub options are English/Spanish.

Here is my playlist scan for the main feature:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title: BOLT_USA
Disc Size: 33,328,403,104 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
BDInfo: 0.5.2

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00350.MPLS
Size: 21,920,514,048 bytes
Length: 1:36:21 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate: 30.33 Mbps
Description:

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 24128 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 3874 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3874 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1-ES / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital EX Audio Spanish 640 kbps 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 40.649 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 0.003 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 30.021 kbps

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00161.M2TS 0:00:00.000 0:02:01.538 494,764,032 32,567
00003.M2TS 0:02:01.538 0:01:01.311 228,796,416 29,854
00004.M2TS 0:03:02.849 0:00:31.114 120,741,888 31,045
00172.M2TS 0:03:33.963 0:00:15.932 64,831,488 32,553
00173.M2TS 0:03:49.896 0:07:04.465 1,649,676,288 31,092
00174.M2TS 0:10:54.361 0:00:18.351 68,812,800 29,997
00175.M2TS 0:11:12.713 0:00:39.122 146,030,592 29,861
00176.M2TS 0:11:51.836 0:00:48.715 180,246,528 29,600
00177.M2TS 0:12:40.551 0:06:11.579 1,351,096,320 29,089
00178.M2TS 0:18:52.130 0:00:50.050 197,216,256 31,523
00179.M2TS 0:19:42.180 0:04:00.907 962,119,680 31,950
00180.M2TS 0:23:43.088 0:00:23.565 90,402,816 30,690
00181.M2TS 0:24:06.653 0:04:54.752 1,130,606,592 30,686
00182.M2TS 0:29:01.406 0:00:18.643 69,519,360 29,831
00183.M2TS 0:29:20.049 0:06:43.361 1,464,815,616 29,052
00184.M2TS 0:36:03.411 0:00:21.730 79,982,592 29,446
00185.M2TS 0:36:25.141 0:15:29.553 3,484,071,936 29,985
00186.M2TS 0:51:54.694 0:00:28.361 109,000,704 30,746
00187.M2TS 0:52:23.056 0:17:09.069 3,956,674,560 30,759
00188.M2TS 1:09:32.126 0:00:22.021 81,610,752 29,647
00189.M2TS 1:09:54.148 0:04:52.333 1,065,289,728 29,153
00190.M2TS 1:14:46.481 0:00:51.593 191,686,656 29,723
00191.M2TS 1:15:38.075 0:01:07.233 251,344,896 29,907
00192.M2TS 1:16:45.308 0:00:21.771 82,212,864 30,209
00193.M2TS 1:17:07.080 0:01:45.980 391,071,744 29,520
00194.M2TS 1:18:53.061 0:00:35.702 130,314,240 29,200
00195.M2TS 1:19:28.763 0:02:11.422 507,377,664 30,885
00196.M2TS 1:21:40.186 0:00:20.854 79,835,136 30,626
00197.M2TS 1:22:01.040 0:14:20.818 3,290,363,904 30,579

CHAPTERS:

Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
1 0:00:00.000 0:02:31.651 27,433 kbps 42,536 kbps 00:00:46.212 34,960 kbps 00:00:42.208 34,118 kbps 00:00:37.245 142,982 bytes 572,955 bytes 00:00:46.838
2 0:02:31.651 0:08:29.008 23,921 kbps 38,638 kbps 00:10:21.579 34,217 kbps 00:10:17.533 31,863 kbps 00:07:54.807 124,715 bytes 911,930 bytes 00:10:22.538
3 0:11:00.659 0:02:46.541 22,419 kbps 28,734 kbps 00:11:06.373 26,249 kbps 00:11:59.510 25,237 kbps 00:11:13.297 116,880 bytes 655,341 bytes 00:11:01.660
4 0:13:47.201 0:05:32.749 24,242 kbps 36,175 kbps 00:14:47.678 33,277 kbps 00:19:07.145 32,995 kbps 00:19:03.016 126,384 bytes 661,754 bytes 00:14:52.099
5 0:19:19.950 0:04:58.923 24,984 kbps 40,038 kbps 00:20:58.256 33,590 kbps 00:21:01.635 33,055 kbps 00:21:19.945 130,256 bytes 685,276 bytes 00:20:37.903
6 0:24:18.873 0:02:55.508 24,846 kbps 36,027 kbps 00:25:57.097 32,830 kbps 00:24:39.644 29,180 kbps 00:26:43.893 129,537 bytes 663,623 bytes 00:26:19.452
7 0:27:14.382 0:02:34.320 24,538 kbps 34,633 kbps 00:27:33.735 31,034 kbps 00:29:36.733 28,319 kbps 00:29:33.062 127,927 bytes 895,702 bytes 00:27:25.810
8 0:29:48.703 0:05:37.128 22,769 kbps 35,873 kbps 00:33:25.837 29,790 kbps 00:32:25.526 28,395 kbps 00:32:19.020 118,708 bytes 712,323 bytes 00:34:37.283
9 0:35:25.831 0:06:43.736 23,483 kbps 40,810 kbps 00:38:21.298 34,550 kbps 00:38:17.378 33,473 kbps 00:38:12.206 122,428 bytes 936,924 bytes 00:40:09.198
10 0:42:09.568 0:09:32.405 24,023 kbps 39,246 kbps 00:48:05.799 33,313 kbps 00:48:57.309 32,014 kbps 00:48:28.363 125,244 bytes 723,343 bytes 00:51:13.153
11 0:51:41.973 0:10:16.365 25,346 kbps 39,016 kbps 01:01:28.726 33,731 kbps 01:01:42.532 33,510 kbps 00:58:41.225 132,144 bytes 547,906 bytes 00:51:50.815
12 1:01:58.339 0:06:17.668 23,388 kbps 39,434 kbps 01:07:34.508 34,205 kbps 01:07:30.588 32,919 kbps 01:07:29.086 121,937 bytes 750,686 bytes 01:06:55.344
13 1:08:16.008 0:04:46.703 23,369 kbps 38,757 kbps 01:11:10.098 33,684 kbps 01:11:03.717 31,506 kbps 01:11:01.548 121,838 bytes 927,917 bytes 01:11:08.555
14 1:13:02.711 0:05:50.349 23,837 kbps 40,678 kbps 01:18:48.098 33,082 kbps 01:18:35.210 30,399 kbps 01:18:31.873 124,274 bytes 936,803 bytes 01:13:52.260
15 1:18:53.061 0:10:43.768 24,060 kbps 39,986 kbps 01:26:51.080 33,713 kbps 01:25:46.891 32,638 kbps 01:19:14.207 125,440 bytes 723,941 bytes 01:26:51.998
16 1:29:36.829 0:06:45.029 24,312 kbps 42,139 kbps 01:29:38.831 34,786 kbps 01:36:10.973 34,288 kbps 01:36:04.717 126,764 bytes 730,697 bytes 01:30:58.327

AsaHoo

04-19-09, 08:15 PM

Please add the following.

Maximum Risk (Traditional and Cantonese)
Pathfinder (Cantonese)
Robocop (Cantonese)

Thanks!

lotc

04-22-09, 10:37 PM

Xmen
Xmen United
Xmen The Last Stand (new version)

Cantonese and Mandarin

Ein

04-24-09, 11:15 PM

How about adding a legend for movies that also have a Chinese audio track?

Price Caspian has a Chinese audio track.

MotaPsycho

04-27-09, 12:24 PM

Sin City bluray has chinese subtitle. I believe its traditional chinese..

MotaPsycho

04-27-09, 12:28 PM

Oh, just want to add that folks can use this search option.. site is from canada and might not have all bluray w/ chinese subtitle.. example, I posted sin city having chinese subtitle, but this site didn't have it...

https://www.thecnl.com/advancedsearch.html

Great job here.. keep up the good work!!

NoThru22

04-27-09, 12:51 PM

MotaPsycho

04-27-09, 01:11 PM

did not know about the Blu-ray.com search option.. since the beginning, it was hard to find a good site to have a search option for chinese subtitle.. i've been using the one I know...

Thanks for the heads up.. .the weird thing is.. they have Sin City on it.. but did not marked it down for chinese subtitle. O'well.. I got it from Netflix and I was suprise that it had chinese subs.. but it does.

chirpie

04-30-09, 11:42 PM

Thanks for the heads up.. .the weird thing is.. they have Sin City on it.. but did not marked it down for chinese subtitle. O'well.. I got it from Netflix and I was suprise that it had chinese subs.. but it does.

And that's exactly why we have this thread. ^_^

Added:

Maximum Risk (T)(C)
Pathfinder (C)
Robocop (C)
Sin City
X-men
X-men 2: X-men United
X-men 3: The Last Stand (new version)

chirpie

04-30-09, 11:45 PM

How about adding a legend for movies that also have a Chinese audio track?

Price Caspian has a Chinese audio track.

Works for me. Added to key, and title updated. BTW, anyone know if it's a Cantonese or Mandarin track?

Ein

05-01-09, 02:15 AM

Cantonese for sure, might be Mandarin as well. I don't have the movie anymore.

dani1209

05-19-09, 04:08 PM

"Bolt" I rent from Blockbuster has chinese title, also chinese audio track. Cool~

NoThru22

05-19-09, 05:22 PM

Big and Bride Wars have Chinese subtitles.

roma_victor

05-28-09, 08:56 PM

Thanks Chirpie for maintaining this thread.

Valkyrie has Chinese (Mandarin) subtitles - I'm not sure if it's traditional or simplified.

chirpie

06-24-09, 06:28 PM

Sorry guys, I was out of the country for a bit (In Shanghai coincidentally enough), and missed these last few posts.

ADDED:

Big
Bride Wars
Valkyrie

ALSO ADDED
The Siege - Cantonese subs

So Bolt has surfaced again with Chinese audio and video? Good grief, so which is it? LOL (Would rental outfits have a different pressing?)

NoThru22

06-24-09, 06:51 PM

chirpie

06-25-09, 01:17 PM

I'm too lazy to look, but do you have Max Payne and Something About Mary listed with Chinese subs?

The Bolt case at my local Hollywood video does not list Chinese but I will rent it from Netflix and see what I get.

Max was already there, Mary wasn't. Thanks!

ADDED:
There's Something About Mary

ALSO ADDED:
Pink Panther 2, The

chirpie

07-06-09, 05:28 PM

ADDED:

12 Rounds

chirpie

07-31-09, 06:19 PM

ADDED:

Dragon Ball: Evolution(C)(M)
I Know What You Did Last Summer
I STILL Know What You Did Last Summer

audio_captain

10-20-09, 05:14 PM

Wow, thanks for the thread! This is just what I've been looking for the whole time. I know my parents can't fully enjoy the movies without Chinese caption. Now I know what movies to get to make everyone happy =) Thanks again!

audio_captain

10-25-09, 03:16 AM

Confession of a Shopaholic

NoThru22

10-25-09, 09:37 AM

Adventureland didn't list Chinese subs anywhere that I could see online but it had them in the menu. Confessions of a Shopaholic was literally the worst movie I've ever seen.

chirpie

10-28-09, 06:21 PM

added:
X-men Origins: Wolverine

also added:
Confession of a Shopaholic
Adventureland

Thanks guys!

NoThru22

10-28-09, 09:30 PM

So it looks like the Ultimate Editions of Harry Potter 1 and 2 won't have Chinese subtitles which is ridiculous because Harry Potter 2 already had Chinese subtitles and I was hoping that both of these would. This does not bode well for Half-Blood Prince. I will be very disapppointed if it doesn't have Chinese subtitles.

EDIT: It looks like it's for sure that Half-Blood Prince doesn't have Chinese subtitles based on the Year 1-6 back cover. In fact, it looks like they're taking OFF many of the subtitles from the other discs as well. I have no idea why movie studios are doing this when Blu-rays have all of this space. It seems arbitrary.

audio_captain

10-29-09, 05:15 PM

Adventureland didn't list Chinese subs anywhere that I could see online but it had them in the menu. Confessions of a Shopaholic was literally the worst movie I've ever seen.

hey hey hey, any movie with Fisher is a good movie! :)

jtbell

10-29-09, 07:47 PM

The Wizard of Oz has Chinese subtitles, but doesn't say which kind, and I don't know Chinese so I can't tell the difference.

chirpie

11-02-09, 10:05 AM

The Wizard of Oz has Chinese subtitles, but doesn't say which kind, and I don't know Chinese so I can't tell the difference.

Added, thanks!

chirpie

11-02-09, 10:06 AM

Added:
Say Anything
The Wizard of Oz

Info added about the Potter films... that's annoying.

audio_captain

11-08-09, 11:20 PM

I "think" Get Smart has Chinese subtitle. Watched few months ago. Don't quite remember. Maybe someone can confirm this.

Cinema Squid

11-09-09, 12:57 AM

I "think" Get Smart has Chinese subtitle. Watched few months ago. Don't quite remember. Maybe someone can confirm this.
Not in the version that I saw - French, Portuguese and Spanish only:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14987025&postcount=911

tsb

11-09-09, 09:58 AM

my get smart has chinese subs, don't remember which region it's from though

my cee version adventureland does not have chinese subs

audio_captain

12-07-09, 07:56 PM

my get smart has chinese subs, don't remember which region it's from though

my cee version adventureland does not have chinese subs

Thanks. I rented from BlockBuster, and it has Chinese (T) subtitle.

chirpie

12-07-09, 10:48 PM

Thanks. I rented from BlockBuster, and it has Chinese (T) subtitle.

Thanks for the confirm!

chirpie

12-07-09, 10:48 PM

Added

Get Smart

audio_captain

12-18-09, 08:00 PM

BOLT has both audio and subtitle in Chinese. Audio is in mainstream Chinese. Penny's voice has an interesting (cute) accent. I'm curious to know where the audio was recorded.

audio_captain

01-10-10, 02:04 AM

500 Days of Summer has traditional chinese caption.

suechi

01-16-10, 05:05 PM

the marine 2 has traditional chinese caption

chirpie

01-16-10, 09:34 PM

The Marine 2 and 500 Days of Summer both added. Thanks guys!

chirpie

01-16-10, 09:35 PM

BOLT has both audio and subtitle in Chinese. Audio is in mainstream Chinese. Penny's voice has an interesting (cute) accent. I'm curious to know where the audio was recorded.

I'm gonna yield and put it up there until someone reignites the debate. ^_^

Cinema Squid

01-17-10, 02:08 AM

I'm gonna yield and put it up there until someone reignites the debate. ^_^
That's fine - it's just strange and confusing that there seem to be multiple different versions of Bolt floating out there! The copy I rented had only English and Spanish audio and subtitles, which seems to be the same specs as encountered by these reviewers:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Bolt-Blu-ray-Review/3766/
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content/id/70322/bolt.html
http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/boltbluray.php
http://project-blu.com/reviews/bolt.html
http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/bolt.html
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews44/bolt_blu-ray.htm
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16036293#post16036293
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/283549/htf-blu-ray-review-bolt#post3522654
http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Bolt_on_Blu-ray_Disc.shtml

...etc...

hazel_wu

01-17-10, 02:53 AM

BOLT has both audio and subtitle in Chinese. Audio is in mainstream Chinese. Penny's voice has an interesting (cute) accent. I'm curious to know where the audio was recorded.

You must have gotten a Asian/Latin America version (I think it's a shared disc as you can tell by the audio/subs it includes). If you go to the end of movie, they will list the voice actors.

I found this article http://blog.udn.com/amberriver/2432542 that states that Penny is actually dubbed by the daughters of Bolt's voice actor, who is a famous Taiwan TV producer. It's really funny as a father becomes his own daughters' pet in the movie!

It is not strange to have more then a dozen versions of ANY movie floating around in the world. Movie studios include different audio/subs/bonus for different regions. As there are only 3 regions for blu-ray, there are more versions of the same movie that can be played in a region.

chirpie

01-19-10, 12:12 PM

That's fine - it's just strange and confusing that there seem to be multiple different versions of Bolt floating out there! The copy I rented had only English and Spanish audio and subtitles, which seems to be the same specs as encountered by these reviewers:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Bolt-Blu-ray-Review/3766/
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content/id/70322/bolt.html
http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/boltbluray.php
http://project-blu.com/reviews/bolt.html
http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/bolt.html
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews44/bolt_blu-ray.htm
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16036293#post16036293
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/283549/htf-blu-ray-review-bolt#post3522654
http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Bolt_on_Blu-ray_Disc.shtml

...etc...

AAAAAAnd now I'll take it back down. I gotta reward that much research. Damn you Disney!

Post Grad has been added to the list.

audio_captain

01-22-10, 05:35 PM

I'm gonna yield and put it up there until someone reignites the debate. ^_^

I got all my Blu-rays from Blockbuster. We got friends with kids coming to visit, so I rented BOLT again. Guess what, this one has no audio or caption in Chinese. This is pretty odd :confused: :confused: :confused:

audio_captain

01-22-10, 06:00 PM

You must have gotten a Asian/Latin America version (I think it's a shared disc as you can tell by the audio/subs it includes). If you go to the end of movie, they will list the voice actors.

I found this article http://blog.udn.com/amberriver/2432542 that states that Penny is actually dubbed by the daughters of Bolt's voice actor, who is a famous Taiwan TV producer. It's really funny as a father becomes his own daughters' pet in the movie!

It is not strange to have more then a dozen versions of ANY movie floating around in the world. Movie studios include different audio/subs/bonus for different regions. As there are only 3 regions for blu-ray, there are more versions of the same movie that can be played in a region.

Thanks, Hazel. See my previous post. Weird thing is that both BOLT Blu-rays I rented were from Blockbuster.

audio_captain

01-29-10, 01:08 AM

Aliens in the Attic. Traditional Chinese with some Cantonese slang.

chirpie

01-29-10, 12:38 PM

Aliens in the Attic. Traditional Chinese with some Cantonese slang.

Added. Thanks Captain!

davevandam

02-11-10, 11:05 AM

Fight Club also has Subtitles. Amazon claims it has both types. I can't verify this, but I know for a FACT (since I have the movie but not here at work) that it at least has Mandarin subtitles.

Also, thanks for making a list like this. My Chinese wife's parents are staying with us for a few months and they don't speak English, and I'm looking for movies that they could watch with us that aren't just Chinese movies brought over to America. I can stand only so many movies that are about the ancient China and/or Kung Fu.

One thing that I HATE (which we ran into last night when we rented a DVD) is when they list "Chinese" as a language option, not specifying if it's Mandarin or Cantonese. Unfortunately, it turned out to be Cantonese and we couldn't watch the movie as a result. It was a complete waste of a rental and I can't get money back as a result. Well, maybe I could if I pressed Hollywood Video enough but I don't feel like complaining about that when there's PLENTY of other things I could complain about at that store..

audio_captain

02-14-10, 07:21 PM

The Proposal (T)

chirpie

02-18-10, 10:07 PM

The Proposal and Fight Club have been added.

And Dave, I totally agree. If you ever know it's a film made in Hong Kong then it's a safe bet it's Cantonese. Other than that, that's pretty annoying.

Cinema Squid

02-19-10, 01:20 AM

One thing that I HATE (which we ran into last night when we rented a DVD) is when they list "Chinese" as a language option, not specifying if it's Mandarin or Cantonese. Unfortunately, it turned out to be Cantonese and we couldn't watch the movie as a result.
It's really a shame that the Blu-ray meta-tagging scheme does not provide for a finer-grained method for identifying language variants - especially for Mandarin/Cantonese spoken and Traditional/Simplified character sets. For both audio and subtitles, the tracks are simply tagged with the three-letter code "zho" which means "Chinese". It requires someone with the proper experience to manually distinguish tracks or reliance on the studios to provide some kind of consistent explanation in the menus or packaging, which obviously they do not - thus, the great value of a thread like this.

A similar situation exists for other common language variants - e.g. Parisian/Québécois "fra" French, Latin American/Castellano "spa" Spanish and Brazilian/Portugal "por" Portuguese - although as far as I know these are not as mutually incomprehensible as Chinese dialects. An unfortunate situation, so hopefully you can forgive those who are not familiar enough with the nuances of these languages to identify them by sound/sight and misreport them occasionally based on insufficient information from the studios themselves.

davevandam

02-22-10, 02:26 PM

The Proposal and Fight Club have been added.

And Dave, I totally agree. If you ever know it's a film made in Hong Kong then it's a safe bet it's Cantonese. Other than that, that's pretty annoying.

Well a number that I've seen will be courteous and give both Mandarin and Cantonese. Actually the movie we ended up watching (which was nearly 2 hours I'll never get back) I'm pretty sure was originally in Cantonese but had a Mandarin track. The ones that only provide one or the other are the most frustrating, followed up by only having Cantonese dialog and then Mandarin subtitles, meaning everyone in the house except ME can enjoy the movie.

davevandam

02-24-10, 02:15 PM

The Wizard of Oz has Chinese subtitles, but doesn't say which kind, and I don't know Chinese so I can't tell the difference.

I just watched it last night. It uses Traditional Subtitles, but my wife and her parents (who know Mandarin) said they were able to understand it just fine.

audio_captain

02-27-10, 01:37 AM

All about Steve (T)

chirpie

03-03-10, 03:44 PM

All about Steve (T)

Added, thanks!

I just wanted to give another thank you shout out to Fox including so many different subtitles on their discs. It really is appreciated.

oikos

03-03-10, 06:10 PM

The Pink Panther 2 (T) :cool:

davevandam

03-09-10, 09:52 PM

The Terminator uses traditional subtitles. Again, my in-laws were able to understand it fine, so Mandarin people don't worry.

chirpie

03-10-10, 04:27 PM

The Terminator uses traditional subtitles. Again, my in-laws were able to understand it fine, so Mandarin people don't worry.

Updated. Thanks!

davevandam

03-26-10, 10:33 AM

audio_captain

03-26-10, 04:05 PM

A note about "There's something about Mary":

I watched this with my wife and her family the other day, and when we watched with the Mandarin subtitles she claimed that they were still Complex symbols. As an experiment I switched over to the "Cantonese" subtitles and she claimed that those were also Complex/Traditional symbols. So according to her, the movie only has Traditional subtitles, as seems to be the case with most of these Fox Blu Ray releases. But again, she claimed she and her family could understand it fine so it wasn't a deal breaker.

If my understanding is correct, Cantonese is also based on the same traditional fonts. The only differences are the fonts they use on the slangs. Mandarin speaking people should be able to understand most of the writings in Cantonese, and vice versa.

Dan Average

03-27-10, 12:54 PM

Both Cantonese and Mandarin can be written in either simplified or traditional characters, although many characters used in Cantonese aren't used in Mandarin (and vice-versa). Cantonese speakers have no problem with written Mandarin because written Mandarin is essentially Standard Written Chinese (baihua), which is understood by all literate Chinese. Pure written Cantonese has far more differences than just slang -- different particles, different pronouns, different grammatical points (direct object-indirect object instead of the other way around), etc. -- and is pretty difficult for non-Cantonese speakers without special instruction. But true written Cantonese is very rare in subtitles; "Cantonese" subs are usually more-or-less standard Chinese with some localisms thrown in.

As for the characters themselves, my impression is that most literate Chinese can recognize both simplified or traditional characters with only a bit of practice, but being able to write in both forms is more difficult.

Ein

03-30-10, 02:05 PM

I think you are just reading too much into it.

In sub-title, Mandarin is usually means simplified character and Cantonese means traditional. In english movies with Chinese sub-title. I have not seen any use of Cantonese slangs.

Taiwanese speaks Mandarin, but their written language is Traditional. And 90% of Cantonese in mainland China can't read Traditional.

I think it's stupid to label sub-title as Mandarin and Cantonese. Those terms are referred to spoken dialect, not written. It should be Traditional and Simplified.

Dan Average

03-31-10, 09:33 AM

In sub-title, Mandarin is usually means simplified character and Cantonese means traditional. In english movies with Chinese sub-title. I have not seen any use of Cantonese slangs.

Some of the titles marked as "Cantonese" (C) in the master list most definitely have some specifically Cantonese vocabulary and syntax -- posters on Chinese-language forums confirm Night at the Museum and the Die Hard BDs, for example. They may still be comprehensible to a non-Cantonese speaker, but they're not standard. And "semi-Cantonese" subs are quite common for English-language movies in Hong Kong cinemas, although the video releases may only have standard subs.

I don't disagree that some studios (mainly Fox) muddy the waters by indiscriminately using "Cantonese" when they really just mean Standard Chinese in traditional characters. And subtitles in pure Cantonese are rarely if ever used for English-language films; at most "Cantonese" usually just means baihua with some Cantonese elements. But "Hong Kong-style subtitles" should be distinguished in some way.

As for your 90% figure, I can only speak anecdotally, but it seems far too high to me. Based on my experiences with mainlanders, a traditional character in isolation might be unreadable, but a running text seems to provide enough contextual clues to work out most non-obvious characters ("obvious characters" being things like 馬, 門, 東, 國 etc. that virtually every mainlander already knows). This is especially true for subtitles, which are generally written at a fairly low level; a lot of bootleg DVDs sold in China use only traditional characters for subs (and sometimes even the packaging). Admittedly I live in northern China, so I really only deal with Mandarin-speakers, but I don't see why it would be different for Cantonese-speaking mainlanders.