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I'm this -><- close to going for a MFW-15. I'm sure the performance will be sufficient and it seems to strike a nice "value" in the 400 - 800 range. My concern is, how easy is it to move on of these things by yourself?

I can see from the av123 page that the shipping weight is 125lbs, but how heavy and also how cumbersome is the actual sub? 125lbs is probably too much, but if the actual sub is closer to 80 or 90, that should be ok.

I am not a big guy. I can move 27" CRT TV's no problem, and 32" CRT TV's for very small distances depending on the shape (lol). But it's not always just the weight but how cumbersome and uneven the weight is, and how easy it is to get a grip on the thing.

Can anyone chime in? As silly as of a concern as this might sound to some, it's a real one for me. I don't want to have to call for help just to move my silly sub from one floor to another or loading into my truck.

These or something similar http://www.ezmoves.com/products/prodMain.html are inexpensive and can make moving even very heavy objects easy if you have no stairs to worry about. For stairs, I'd suggest two people. Other wise, the sliders work well. I moved a PB13Ultra myself from outside my front door to the back of the house and I'm just a 180lb guy. I actually leave the sliders under my PB13 for occasions when I want to move it for any reason.

I tried a search... sorry if this is a repeat.

I'm this -><- close to going for a MFW-15. I'm sure the performance will be sufficient and it seems to strike a nice "value" in the 400 - 800 range. My concern is, how easy is it to move on of these things by yourself?

I can see from the av123 page that the shipping weight is 125lbs, but how heavy and also how cumbersome is the actual sub? 125lbs is probably too much, but if the actual sub is closer to 80 or 90, that should be ok.

I am not a big guy. I can move 27" CRT TV's no problem, and 32" CRT TV's for very small distances depending on the shape (lol). But it's not always just the weight but how cumbersome and uneven the weight is, and how easy it is to get a grip on the thing.

Can anyone chime in? As silly as of a concern as this might sound to some, it's a real one for me. I don't want to have to call for help just to move my silly sub from one floor to another or loading into my truck.

Hi Slare,

I have moved the prototypes and my production MFW-15 around plenty. They are less than 100 lbs, but not by much. The port does make for an easy means to grab hold, and the 18" width is closer to the body if you have a wide walkway. The main thing to watch out for are belt buckles or zippers/buttons on clothing when carrying, as these are easy ways to scratch the beautiful finish. You can carry it, but it's large, not light, and the hardest part and most taxing on the back is getting from the ground to standing. Mind you I also often have to do short distance carries of my SubMersive which is similar in size and 30 lbs heavier. That 30 lbs makes a big difference.

My suggestion would be to get the box into the destination room, where you can even do an end-over-end roll up a flight of stairs, or just a push up some carpeted stairs. Just be as gentle as possible if you roll it up the stairs, remembering the strength of the container is on the ends, although the containers used now are very robust all around. Once in the room it is easy to open and slide or walk into position. The many furniture moving tools available at any hardware store can work well, or even just a pad of carboard or carpet depending on the surface (carpet or wood). Moving room to room is much more managable than up and down stairs, but it is most certainly possible with some planning and care. Obviously this is not a job for someone with a bad back or who is in weak form for whatever reason.

The MFW-15 is very easy for 2 people to handle and carry around.

To re-emphasize, take your time and carefully look ahead to where you will have to navigate and where you will set the subwoofer once you get there. A little bit of patience and planning can save you long lasting frustration.

I would not suggest trying to load this or sub or any comparable sub by yourself in or out of a truck or up and down stairs, actual weight is around 100lbs give or take a few. Once you get it in the room it's manageable for one person so you really should only need help to get it in the house if you have stairs.


PS just read your post mark, you're a better man than I :)

Thanks for the feedback. ~95lbs of bulky box weight is probably right on the line of what I can work with. I'll just have to man up, I guess. I have to flip my Velo's, and I'm in!

When the sub shows up, your excitement and adrenalin will kick in and that 100lbs will feel like 25lbs! I had similar concerns with a different sub that was a little heavier and bulkier, but when you're motivated enough you can do anything. Enjoy.

I don't want to have to call for help just to move my silly sub from one floor to another or loading into my truck.

Try out a 2-wheel moving dolly or the other aides listed above. If no go, then no pride lost in getting a neighbor over, even if it's for a 12 pack-o-beer.

Nothing silly about a strained back or a dropped / scratched sub.

One person is possible, two people is easy.

Clearly you need some British intelligence on this case.:D Get yourself a trolley truck or place thick plastic bags underneath it and drag it across the floor. My sub is about close to that weight and first removed the sub bass driver to reduce the gross weight the placed a strong plastic underneath and dragged it. Moving it up the stairs piss easy if you have carpet on the stairs it should slid up with you pushing it from behind.

Me, and my dad, moved a washing machine up three flights of stirs last week into my flat and it was piss easy with the trolley truck.

http://www.chillingtonbarrows.co.uk/_graphics/product_pics/large/9708.jpg

Totally do-able. Back in my lifting days (before I hurt my shoulder at work) I had my deadlift up over 425lbs, but like you, I'm not a very big guy (190 then, 170 now). What made things difficult was because of my lack of weight. Big speaker boxes would mess my balance up too much, making some things very difficult to move around.

To make things easier, go down to Dollar General, Lowes, ect... and get yourself some tight fitting rubber coated warehouse gloves. It drastically increases your grip and isn't abrasive on the finish since it's rubber.
http://www.showagloves.com/images/gloveimages/2img_Thumb.jpg

If you look around, you can get them for less than 5bucks and they're great for all kinds of things, not just working in a warehouse :)

Warmup before doing any heavy lifting, bend with your legs, and keep the load close.

Sounds like you need a Roboremover to do your hard craft around the home.:D

http://www.kmf.org.pl/fx/historia/100-robocop.jpg

No seriously listen to the guys you, don’t want to bugger up your back. Ask a neighbour to lend a helping hand, that’s if you haven’t already ticked if off with the rumblings!:D

Like you, I can handle 27 and 32" CRTs fairly well.

I can confirm that unboxed, the MFW-15 is easier than a 32" CRT.

Boxed, it is a bit of a chore, but I got it out of my hatchback trunk alone (which it barely cleared in a Civic DX) and carried the box into the elevator a good 20 feet away, then down the hall and into my apartment (sliding on carpet), and managed to unpack and from there it was a cakewalk.

When the sub shows up, your excitement and adrenalin will kick in and that 100lbs will feel like 25lbs! I had similar concerns with a different sub that was a little heavier and bulkier, but when you're motivated enough you can do anything. Enjoy.

I can attest to this. When my two arrived after opening it up I carried one of them up stairs by myself to get it into the video room. I just did it without thinking about it. :D Since then I have slid the two around on the carpet many times and stacked/unstacked them a couple of times. Funny thing is they seem to get heavier every time and last night while doing a horizontal stack adjustment I tweaked my lower back. :eek: Needless to say be smart about it. But when it is first delivered being smart is the last thing on your mind. :o

What about moving it down a flight of carpeted stairs by yourself? Could you slide it down or would you not be able to brace yourself well enough on the stairs?
If this wouldn't work, what about a dolly / hand truck? Could you have it angled back enough so that it wouldn't tip forward? Could it be rolled down without rolling away from you?

Well you definitely don't want to slid the enclosure against the ground. Wrap it in heavy plastic, or even better, slide it around in the cardboard box it comes shipped in! You don't want to risk putting any scratchs in the finish.

Well, I have to say I'm glad about the feedback and suggestions. I was concerned because I've never really heard much about this issue, and I figured I can't be the only one considering it.

I've been thinking about getting a moving cart for awhile so this might just be the perfect excuse to do so. I'm not getting any younger.

Look on the bright side. It could be an A7-900. :D

Well, I have to say I'm glad about the feedback and suggestions. I was concerned because I've never really heard much about this issue, and I figured I can't be the only one considering it.

I've been thinking about getting a moving cart for awhile so this might just be the perfect excuse to do so. I'm not getting any younger.

Between 2:17pm and 5:59pm are you saying you’ve done sod all since then LOL. That sub isn’t going to move on its own, now come on, chop, chop get to it, and please take pictures of man in action with his sub. :D

Tell you what mate, I would have thing moved by now and I’m real short guy that doesn’t hang around.

I managed to get an a5-350 up a flight of stairs myself. After waiting 2 months to get it. I wasnt about to wait any longer for help.

I thought the mfw15 was 120lbs?

Well you definitely don't want to slid the enclosure against the ground. Wrap it in heavy plastic, or even better, slide it around in the cardboard box it comes shipped in! You don't want to risk putting any scratchs in the finish.

Sorry, I was assuming it would still be in the box.
Trying to figure out the best way to get it down a flight of stairs...

Sorry, I was assuming it would still be in the box.
Trying to figure out the best way to get it down a flight of stairs...It's only 125 lbs. you should be able to stand in front of it and support the weight as you slide it down the stairs. I've had to do that with many items. As long as it slides you should be OK. How many stairs? (my basement has 13, so not too bad)

I managed to get an a5-350 up a flight of stairs myself. After waiting 2 months to get it. I wasnt about to wait any longer for help.

Get in there son! Give it some muscle why wait for some bugger to come around when you can just get in there son.:D

I manage to move an EP600 about 150' then up 20 stairs without stopping. and then back down Three times now by myself. :D 100lbs doesnt really seem like much weight but boy is that thing cumbersome!

Just bought an MFW-15, I think it shall be a bit easier to manage. I hope.