This thread is to continue the discussion from

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13774831&posted=1#post13774831

That thread has lots of diagnostic output from the Mythbox I'm building.

To summarize:

MythBuntu 8.04

BioStar NF4 Ultra-A9A mobo
X2 3800
Nvidia 7300GS PCIe
1 GB PC3200 DDR
Maxtor 120GB OS drive
Maxtor 200GB data drive for recordings
Pioneer DVD-RW
HP DVD-RW
Packard Bell Fast Media Remote with serial port receiver- works fine (where do I find the key function mappings?)

This thread
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=602039&page=5

appears to indicate that it *can* work with Myth, but no one has replied. One guy claimed that OTA HD works great for him, but no reply on *how* to get it up and running.

OK, I'm still up and slightly more buzzed; but, I think waterhead's on to something over in the other thread, even though he doesn't realize you've started another thread, LOL!

This could very well be a problem with the (proper) firmware not being right or in the right place.

Welp, I dl'd the firmware again from

http://www.steventoth.net/linux/xc5000/

dl'd the .gz from

http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb

tar zxvf'd it, then did

make

sudo make install

apparently without issue. The v4l-dvb package is newer than the one I was using, so there's hope. I will reboot now.

Rebooted, still nuthin' when I run MythTV Backend setup (no card detected) ;(

I hate to say it, but the 800i *was* detected in MythDora 5.0, but it appeared only for analog- couldn't figure out the ATSC tuner part there either :(

I want to use MythBuntu.

Calling it quits for the night- but by all means, keep posting ideas if you can't sleep ;)

OK, one more post tonight.

Try this one. modprobe cx23885 card=58
I got that from here:

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-550276.html

modprobe cx23885 card=58

returned

WARNING: Error inserting dvb_core (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-core/dvb-core.ko): Operation not permitted
WARNING: Error inserting videobuf_dvb (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/videobuf-dvb.ko): Operation not permitted
WARNING: Error inserting cx2341x (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx2341x.ko): Operation not permitted
FATAL: Error inserting cx23885 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx23885/cx23885.ko): Operation not permitted

so, I did

sudo modprobe cx23885 card=58

which returned nothing, so I assumed it "worked" and ran MythTV Backend Setup, but still no capture card found.

Check dmesg again after inserting a new module. That command may only be for the analog side of the card. I really don't know!:confused:

Make sure that you are setting it up as a DVB card, but you most likely already know that.

Gotta go to work now, bye.

Also, since you rebooted, the bt driver loaded again & it may cause conflicts.
sudo modprobe -r cx23885
sudo modprobe -r btcx_risc
sudo modprobe cx23885 card=58
dmesg
Once (if) you find a module that works, you'll probably have to blacklist the bt one.

Also, since you rebooted, the bt driver loaded again & it may cause conflicts.
sudo modprobe -r cx23885
sudo modprobe -r btcx_risc
sudo modprobe cx23885 card=58
dmesg
Once (if) you find a module that works, you'll probably have to blacklist the bt one.

Thanks. I'll try this evening when I get back home.

I did a little digging in the V4L-DVB mailing list archives here (http://lists-archives.org/video4linux/21871-trying-to-setup-pctv-hd-card-800i.html). It says that the modules needed for this card are these.

cx88-*
s5h1409
xc5000

I don't know why the * after cx88-. I guess it's a wildcard.

Also, since you rebooted, the bt driver loaded again & it may cause conflicts.
sudo modprobe -r cx23885
sudo modprobe -r btcx_risc
sudo modprobe cx23885 card=58
dmesg
Once (if) you find a module that works, you'll probably have to blacklist the bt one.

The modprobe commands appeared to work, i.e. returned nothing.

Attached is dmesg output

This seems to be a bug in Ubuntu only. Try this work around by Michael Krufky:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/220857

I found a workaround to this problem.

First, I noticed the following.....

mk@aftermath:/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/ubuntu/media$ find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep cx88xx.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/ubuntu/media/cx88/cx88xx.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx88/cx88xx.ko
mk@aftermath:/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/ubuntu/media$ find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep saa7134.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/ubuntu/media/saa7134/saa7134.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134.ko

The ubuntu kernel has its own separate copy of the cx88 and saa7134 modules! When we build new modules in the v4l-dvb repository from linuxtv.org, we are adding a second version of these modules.

There are copies of some other v4l modules, too:

mk@aftermath:/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/ubuntu/media$ ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/media
cx88 gspcav1 lirc ov511 quickcam saa7134 stk11xx usbvideo

It is ubuntu's version of these modules that is loading by default, and that is why we have the symbol version conflict with videobuf_foo.

To workaround the problem, delete the offending ubuntu driver from the directory above, then run "sudo depmod -a"

for example:

sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/media/cx88
sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/media/saa7134
sudo depmod -a

So, this issue does indeed seem to have been caused by bug #212100 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/212100)'s "fix".

It appears that all of the "Unknown symbol" stuff in the dmesg is happening at boot when the bt driver is loaded, so I wouldn't worry about that, but do go ahead and blacklist it.

The workaround waterhead found makes sense.

Also, we apparently haven't used the right module(s) yet. I would delete all of the duplicates found per the workaround (or rename them to whatever.bak) and then try the modules he found in the V4L-DVB list.

The wildcard usually means "all", but in this case it could also mean "whatever chipset you have", or it could be "whatever version", so I don't know as I haven't had a look at the modules yet. It'll probably be apparent when you see the .ko filenames.

This seems to be a bug in Ubuntu only. Try this work around by Michael Krufky:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/220857

DEAL!

Doing the rm commands and depmod at the end of the citation, then make install from the v4l-dvb download again and rebooting, did the trick. Myth TV Set up now recognizes both the analog and ATSC (DVB) parts of the card perfectly!

I am scanning for OTA stations as I write this.

Mythmaster and waterhead are truly Steely-Eyed Missile Men of the Highest Order :D

This thread was a great tutorial on Linux drivers (Modules), how to inspect them and diagnose them. Truly in the spirit of Linux/FOSS and the PC builders community.

Thanks guys...

The person to really thank is Michael Krufky. He and CityK are V4L-DVB developers (among others), without whom we would still need to use Windows for TV.:(

I knew if I looked hard enough I would find a reason to hate Ubuntu! Damn those pretty and popular girls... umm... I mean distros!

The person to really thank is Michael Krufky. He and CityK are V4L-DVB developers (among others), without whom we would still need to use Windows for TV.:(

I knew if I looked hard enough I would find a reason to hate Ubuntu! Damn those pretty and popular girls... umm... I mean distros!

Yes, Ubuntu has been grabbing most of the limelight, deservedly so in the recent past for putting the focus on the end user experience/desktop experience and release schedule discipline, which has motivated lots of other distros to improve their install/driver experience and release schedules for users.

However, the past 6 months or so with Ubuntu have indicated some kind of change going on- Ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04 haven't been as polished and vetted for driver issues (PInnacle 800i, Pulse audio, bt wireless drivers for notebooks, etc) prior to release as they could have. There appears to be a rising tide of resentment in the user community about the Ubuntu developer's lack of attention to detail and responsiveness to what many users feel are obvious, basic driver issues that aren't addressed prior to release.

/rant on/
IMO, the entire *point* of a "distro", in addition to making the install procedure simple and adding wizards/front end GUIs for common system tasks, is to test and vet the driver base. Too many distros tout all the apps they have- who cares if your distro has the latest OpenOffice/Mplayer/ or whatever app- any idiot can add these from Synaptic, debs or install scripts. The job of the distro is to package the low level stuff properly, and communicate needs back upstream to the driver developers and hopefully motivate them to get their drivers up to snuff.
/rant off/

On the bright side, Ubuntu has spawned great derivatve distros like MythBuntu and Mint, which are developing their own communities/ fan bases. If Ubuntu doesn't get back on track in the next release or two, these kinds of distros can always change to another base or start rolling their own. I am actually waiting for Mint 5.0 late this month, and will try to add MythBuntu on top of it from Synaptic. Mint adds all the media stuff by default, and cleans up driver issues and fundamental system level issues like network drive sharing defaults. I want to see if Mint 5.0 fixes up the Pinnacle 800i issues out of the box, though now that I know the "secret sauce", pasting a few lines into the terminal isn't so bad in MythBuntu 8.04 ;)

Competition is good- I'm sure MythBuntu has motivated MthDora to improve, and the Mint's of the world might not have been inspired to start without Ubuntu demonstrating a vision, however imperfect, of what can be done with a distro.

Back on topic, after running the Myth Setup and scanning for channels, I ran the front end and tried "Watch TV".

All I get is a blank screen for a few seconds, then it goes back to the Front End main menu. If I hit Watch TV again-> black screen-> back to main menu.

Out of the frying pan... ;)

(I might not have access to the box until Mon/Tues...)

Which module(s) did you load?

You're welcome, btw, but waterhead came up with the goods on this one :)

Edit: also, try tuning channels with mplayer to be sure it's not a problem with myth, but it's probably still a module problem.

Which module(s) did you load?

You're welcome, btw, but waterhead came up with the goods on this one :)

I just did

sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/media/cx88
sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/media/saa7134
sudo depmod -a

then cd'd to the v4l-dvb download directory, then

sudo make install

then rebooted and ran MythTVsetup. It appears the depmod command "registered" the new v4l-dvb" drivers and they were picked up automagically at reboot.

Ok. Let's have a look at lsmod and dmesg again (when you get a chance).

The pulse audio problems aren't confined to Ubuntu. I am running Fedora 8 on my Dell laptop, and have many audio problems. This is also attributed to needing to use the JACK audio server, which I can't seem to get to function without running everything as root!

But, I digress.

MythTV is separate from every distro. I have just redone my setup using CentOS 5.1. I am using the ATRPMs repository for MythTV, although I can't get all the plugins installed because of dependency errors. I may have to just use Fedora instead. SUSE can be made into a wonderful MythTV box too. You just need the correct repositories.

To address the WatchTV problem. I've had this trouble in the past, but don't recall the solution.

You can run the frontend from a terminal with the -v option, and look for errors. There are many verbose options:

mythfrontend -v all
mythfrontend -v playback
etc.

Run mythfrontend -v help for a complete list

@waterhead: A bit off-topic, but why do you need pulse audio? Also, JACK requires a kernel patch to run with real-time priority. MythTV (and plugs) build real nice in Gentoo, btw :cool:

Pulse is installed as the default audio handler in Fedora 8. As for the JACK kernel, I just found a source for this.

http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/planetccrma.html

I'm not sure if I want to tempt fate and install from their repository. I have it all set up using the Smart Package Manager, if I want to try it. Maybe I should get some beer and try it later tonight. (beer is a universal lubricant)

I have everything working on a PC with 64Studio installed. It uses Debian 4 as it's base and adds a real-time kernel.

Ok. Let's have a look at lsmod and dmesg again (when you get a chance).

Attached.

To address the WatchTV problem. I've had this trouble in the past, but don't recall the solution.

You can run the frontend from a terminal with the -v option, and look for errors. There are many verbose options:

mythfrontend -v all
mythfrontend -v playback
etc.

Run mythfrontend -v help for a complete list

I'll try these Mon/Tues.

Those files look good. No more errors.

For the WatchTV problem, I think that I had to delete the TV cards (in mythtv-setup) and then re-add them. Not sure what happens to cause this problem. You may also want to make sure the MythTV playback settings are correct.

If you have a directory that stores the recordings, make sure that it has read/write access for the mythtv user.

EDIT: Make sure you run mythfilldatabase too.

I had to go in to work today, blah.

Pulse is installed as the default audio handler in Fedora 8.
Yet another reason not to use Fedora...:D

As for lsmod & dmesg, yes, THAT'S EFFIN' BEAUTIFUL!!!

Also, yes, deleting and re-adding the card is a good idea. Make sure it starts on a known good channel, and verify that fetch channels worked properly by having a peek in channel editor. Don't forget to set the input source.

Then, run mythfrontend from a terminal without any options and try to watch tv again. If it doesn't work, exit and have a look at mythfrontend's output (and post it here). Then, we can start digging through various levels of -v.

It's a good thing you won't be doing this until Mon/Tue, because I'm gonna be pretty useless in about an hour! :rolleyes:

EDIT: It's also a good thing you didn't follow my advice and blacklist the bt driver as I just noticed that it's required by the cx* drivers. :eek:

I just found a source for this.

http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/planetccrma.html

I'm not sure if I want to tempt fate and install from their repository. I have it all set up using the Smart Package Manager, if I want to try it. Maybe I should get some beer and try it later tonight. (beer is a universal lubricant)

I have everything working on a PC with 64Studio installed. It uses Debian 4 as it's base and adds a real-time kernel.

Why not dl vanilla kernel sources and the official rt patch and build ye olde kernel yourself? I'm assuming you're composing music or something, because you really don't need JACK for htpc. That's one thing I love about Gentoo -- you HAVE to build a kernel just to install it. It's great practice. Plus, there are "overlays" with specific packages, configs, and patched sources for various niches: composing, video editing, xen, etc.

I am trying to run Rosegarden so that I can mess with some midi ringtones. This is on my laptop, not a HTPC.

I will compile a kernel if I have to, but I would rather have kernels and packages that are upgradeable. I have it working on another PC, running 64Studio (http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20070422065008645/64_Studio.html). It comes with a real-time kernel. I just wanted to do the same thing on my laptop. It seems like such a simple thing.:rolleyes:

Those files look good. No more errors.

For the WatchTV problem, I think that I had to delete the TV cards (in mythtv-setup) and then re-add them. Not sure what happens to cause this problem. You may also want to make sure the MythTV playback settings are correct.

If you have a directory that stores the recordings, make sure that it has read/write access for the mythtv user.

EDIT: Make sure you run mythfilldatabase too.

Good stuff- I'll try them when I have access to the machine again Tuesday.

For lurkers who are getting scared by all these diagnostics, I went through similar gyrations setting up video cards and tuner cards on Win98 and XP from 1998-2004, except no one could really know what was going on in Windows ;).

I actually am re-doing my MythTV box. I am using CentOS 5.1 with the ATRPMs repository. I am experiencing the same problem, and deleting and re-adding the cards didn't work. It actually worked the first time I tried. But after changing some settings TV didn't work anymore and MythTV started to crash. I only changed Theme and other minor settings.

Since this is a completely new install, I am gonna just blow it away and try again. I see that there is already a slightly newer version of MythTV available, but the ATRPMs repository is not responding.

Bummer, waterhead. Why CentOS, though?

@rgb: If the above doesn't work in MythTV, try to open the tuner with mplayer to confirm it's working and that the problem lies within MythTV.

I am using CentOS 5.1 because I want a stable, long-term MythTV HTPC. Most free Linux distros have a very short life span. I have had MythTV on Fedora 2,4,5 and 8. Since I am more than familiar with the Redhat/Fedora distros, CentOS is a good choice.

I am replacing my last build where I used CentOS 5.0. I had found that the CentOS kernel was not compiled with any multimedia support, so I downloaded the vanilla sources and compiled my own. I then compiled MythTV from the SVN sources. This worked great, but I was unable to get the mythplugins or the myththemes to compile, but that's OK. This was the most trouble free MythTV build that I ever had, so why change it?

Well, I screwed it up!:(

I wanted to save some of the videos from the previous installs, as they were on separate hard drives. My video partitions were always on LVMs with the jfs file system. I tried to mount them on CentOS, but found that there was no support for it, I had not compiled it in. I then was able to add the jfs module, but not without making a mistake first. Within hours things started to go bad. When I rebooted to see if things would clear up, I got hard disk errors and no boot.

Well, using the SVN version of MythTV meant that I couldn't connect to it with any regular front end. I also found that CentOS has a CentOSPlus repository with upgraded kernels. ATRPMs has RHEL/CentOS packages of MythTV-0.21, so a good time for a re-build.

I'll give CentOS 5.1 another try, before considering another distro. I do have Mythbuntu on another box, but I really don't care for Ubuntu.

I am using CentOS 5.1 because...
We should start another thread to discuss different distros running MythTV and the pros/cons of each one based on user experience.

But, for now and without explanation, I'll tell you that my favorite is, by far, Gentoo running on XFS.

Also, I've never used a DVB card. What's the mplayer command?

We should start another thread to discuss different distros running MythTV and the pros/cons of each one based on user experience.
I Agree
Also, I've never used a DVB card. What's the mplayer command?
It's been a while since I did it, but I think that It is something like this:
dvb://dev/dvb/adapter0
The mythbackend cannot be running for this to work, as it monopolizes the tuners. You also need a channels.conf file in your /home/.mplayer folder. (I can't get this to work, so I must be forgetting something).

EDIT: I figured this one out. The channels.conf file has the TV stations named, so you just call out the name.
mplayer dvb://WTMJ-DT

Back on topic, after running the Myth Setup and scanning for channels, I ran the front end and tried "Watch TV".

All I get is a blank screen for a few seconds, then it goes back to the Front End main menu. If I hit Watch TV again-> black screen-> back to main menu.

I am having the same problem. I looked at the log file in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log. There I found an error message about not being able to find the folder to put the recordings in. After the original setup and trial (it worked), I changed the recording folder to a 500GB disk that I have mounted to a /video folder. I changed the settings to reflect this, yet somehow it is still looking at the old folder. (now deleted)

It must have that location recorded somewhere, maybe in the database. I'll drop the database and re-do it if I have to.

I am having the same problem. I looked at the log file in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log. There I found an error message about not being able to find the folder to put the recordings in. After the original setup and trial (it worked), I changed the recording folder to a 500GB disk that I have mounted to a /video folder. I changed the settings to reflect this, yet somehow it is still looking at the old folder. (now deleted)

It must have that location recorded somewhere, maybe the database. I'll drop the database and re-do it if I have to.
Definitely not a fix, but a quick workaround would be to soft link the /video folder to the old folder location (double-check permissions, of course) until you can figure out where the wires got crossed.

I am having the same problem. I looked at the log file in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log. There I found an error message about not being able to find the folder to put the recordings in. After the original setup and trial (it worked), I changed the recording folder to a 500GB disk that I have mounted to a /video folder. I changed the settings to reflect this, yet somehow it is still looking at the old folder. (now deleted)

It must have that location recorded somewhere, maybe the database. I'll drop the database and re-do it if I have to.

I thought it might be something like that. I received the Kworld ATSC 115 card today, and in a few minutes will reformat the box we've been discussing and start from scratch with MythBuntu 8.04 again, to be sure all the settings/files/databases are set up properly with the Kworld 115 card.

From this thread, it looks like an install procedure so far for the Pinnacle 800i on MythBuntu (needs work to address the Watch TV blank screen issue):

Boot with MythBuntu 8.04 liveCD
Install ATI or Nvidia driver with EnvyNG from Synaptic.
Download the 800i firmware from

http://www.steventoth.net/linux/xc5000/

Extract firmware with extract script there.

Download latest v4l-dvb drivers from

http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb

extract with this command from a term window (or your favorite GUI archive utility)

tar xzvf

Remove outdated/incompatible v4l drivers with these three commands:

sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/media/cx88
sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/media/saa7134
sudo depmod -a


Then do these two commands to compile and install the v4l-dvb drivers

make

sudo make install

Reboot

Run MythTV Backend Setup from the System menu and the 800i should be recognized.

...at least I *think* that should be the A-B-C process- someone can check me out by reviewing this thread and the other thread where we started this ;)

We did a lot of diagnostics, but I assume we didn't do any other significant changes that affected the card functionality (?)

Tell us it works before posting a HOWTO, please. :)

We need to clarify waterhead's issue, as well.

Tell us it works before posting a HOWTO, please. :)

We need to clarify waterhead's issue, as well.


The only remaining issue was the "Watch TV" blank screen issue, which doesn't appear to be related to the hardware card, but rather a Myth database or config issue per waterhead's report, and the fact that Mythbuntu 8.04 is doing the same thing on the Kworld 115 :(.

I just wanted to summarize the steps to get at least as far as we got on the Pinnacle 800i. We can clean up the procedure later once the Watch TV blank screen issue is nailed down.

In any event, I pulled the Pinnacle 800i and started from scratch on the same PC build using the Kworld ATSC 115 card, since I need to test it for DOA, and I might just return the Pinnacle 800i to BB, as it appears the Kworld 115 installs easier and picks up my locals better on the first channel scan.

I started a new thread for the Kworld 115 here

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13810616#post13810616

I understand...just didn't want anyone to mistakenly think that the problem was solved.

I have it working now, somewhat.

I ended up reformatting my video drive to ext3. I think that CentOS has trouble with the more "exotic" file systems.:( I guess I can live without JFS.

Now, this version of MythTV seems quite buggy. It is crashing a lot, even during channel scanning. I can only watch SD channels, as the HD channels freeze up. I am using a nVidia card, and have been trying to get MythTV to use XvMC, but I don't think that it is. The setup pages for this are now much more complicated, maybe I just need time to figure it out. It does seem to be the same as the SVN version that I was running, and I had that working pretty good.

Here's some links to setup How-To's
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC#Enabling_the_chipset_library
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Playback_profiles

I'm not at all happy with this. Mythbuntu 7.10 here I come!

I have it working now, somewhat.

I ended up reformatting my video drive toext3. I think that CentOS has trouble with the more "exotic" file systems.:( I guess I can live without JFS.


I'm not at all happy with this. Mythbuntu 7.10 here I come!

Exactly what I was thinking. I may try MythBuntu 7.10 with the Kworld 115 if I can't get Watch TV to work with 8.04.

To clarify for this thread, the Watch TV blank screen issue was due to Read-only permissions on the Record directories.

Shame on me for the rookie mistake, but shame on the Myth developers for not throwing a simple dialog or warning message in the Myth Front end GUI describing this simple problem.

I returned the Pinnacle 800i card to Best Buy today- no issues in getting the full refund, since I only used the card and nothing else in the package. The pinnacle might work for some people, but it looks like the Kworld 115 is the better bet for Linux.

The Kworld is about the same price with shipping from newegg or provantage.com vs the Pinnacle.

Plus, it appears the Kworld 115's remote works with lirc/Myth if you manually add the driver in Mythbuntu, based on MythDora 5.0 having the Kworld 110/115 remote driver listed as a preset, though I haven't tried it yet.

Mythbuntu 7.10 is no longer available for download from the Myhtbuntu web site. It is officially unavailable, but it took me about 10 seconds to find it on some of their mirrors.
http://us-ca2.cdimages.mythbuntu.org/
http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/mythbuntu/

If you don't already have it downloaded, get it now. There is no telling how much longer it will be on the servers. I now have both i386 and x86_64 versions.

Also, MythTV does give an error if the video folder is not writable. I think that it is when you exit mythtv-setup, as that is where you define the folders to store the recordings in.

I'm gonna do a complete reformat and install of CentOS. I screwed it up right from the beginning by moving the boot drive from the ATA PCI card that I had it plugged into, to the mobo's IDE1 input after installing CentOS. It didn't even want to boot Linux, at first. You see, I wanted the PCI slot that the ATA card was in for the new gigabit LAN card that I just got.

hi guys, obviously i am new to the forums, but i am also new to Linux in general. i have a pinnacle 800i card that i would love to get working with my new install of Mythbuntu 8.04. however, being new to Linux, i don't follow most of thew instructions (the the extract firmware step) mostly because i am not used to the language, if someone could help me get things rolling it would be greatly appreciated...thanks in advance!

hi guys, obviously i am new to the forums, but i am also new to Linux in general. i have a pinnacle 800i card that i would love to get working with my new install of Mythbuntu 8.04. however, being new to Linux, i don't follow most of thew instructions (the the extract firmware step) mostly because i am not used to the language, if someone could help me get things rolling it would be greatly appreciated...thanks in advance!

After you download the shell script (extract.sh), open a terminal and run the following commands:
chmod +x extract.sh
./extract.sh
Note that you need to be in the same directory that you downloaded the file.

After you download the shell script (extract.sh), open a terminal and run the following commands:
chmod +x extract.sh
./extract.sh
Note that you need to be in the same directory that you downloaded the file.

maybe i am doing something wrong, but this is my code as i typed it:

michael@michael-desktop:~/Desktop$ chmod +x extract.sh
michael@michael-desktop:~/Desktop$ ./extract.sh
Extracting hcw85bda.sys from the windows zip file
./extract.sh: 13: unzip: not found
Failed to extract file, aborting
michael@michael-desktop:~/Desktop$

as i said i am a complete newbie to linux, so any ideas would be appreciated
thanks again!!

You need to install unzip.

sudo apt-get unzip

or search, point and click in Synaptic

You need to install unzip.

sudo apt-get unzip

or search, point and click in Synaptic
This might work better. :rolleyes:
sudo apt-get install unzip

I was assuming an implicit "install" declaration :D

Hi,

I am building out a htpc with the current version of mythdora.

Is this card natively supported now or do i need to do some additional
steps ?

mythdora newbie, so a step-by-step instruction will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance !

In lieu of waiting on the new v4l/dvb driver to fix the two analog tuner problems I am having with my Kworld-115's, I am looking to purchase another tuner card for OTA HD. I seen this Pinnacle card in BestBuy the other day and started doing my research on it for Linux support. I found this thread here and noticed that the issues Rgb was having with it was in May of last year. Has there been any improvement for this card to be viable for MythTV?

TIA

In lieu of waiting on the new v4l/dvb driver to fix the two analog tuner problems I am having with my Kworld-115's,You will, no doubt see the other thread, but for the sake of posterity for others, that wait should be over very soon.

I would still like to see if there is any new info on the Pinnacle card because I still need another tuner. If the Pinnacle is still troublesome with Linux I will get another Kworld.

noticed that the issues Rgb was having with it was in May of last year. Has there been any improvement for this card to be viable for MythTV? ... I would still like to see if there is any new info on the Pinnacle card because I still need another tuner. If the Pinnacle is still troublesome with LinuxOther then the initial hiccups that needed to be ironed out when Chaogui added support, I don't think that this card has ever been troublesome per se. Skimming through the thread (and some of the links), the issues that Rgb and others were having can be summarized by: the distro that they tried to use the card with didn't contain recent enough drivers covering the card
user error (loading the wrong module: they were trying to manually load cx23885, when they should have been loading the cx88 modules)
errors caused by ubuntu's choice of location for some of their kernel supplied modules -- when you install the v4l-dvb drivers from LinuxTV, they will copy over top of the older installed set, but because ubuntu had set up a different location for some of the v4l-dvb drivers that they included/provided with their kernel, the newer v4l-dvb drivers from LinuxTV got installed along side the older versions provided by ubuntu ... this caused an error wherein you get a case of a mixture of new and old drivers loading ... problem solved by blowing away the older ubuntu versions
that version of ubuntu messed up the version of alsa that they included in their kernel, causing difficulties, in terms of analog audio, when building the v4l-dvb drivers against that ubuntu kernel.
Other popular user errors one might see with a card like that is, first, putting the firmware in the wrong spot (didn't see it in this thread, but see it in many other cases), or, second, using the wrong firmware (i.e. trying to use the xc3028 firmware when what they need is that for the xc5000 ... again, didn't spot this in this case, but this is a common error when it comes to similar situations)

Provided that you put the right firmware in the right place, everything else should be automagic at this point with all distros.

I have that card, and it works fine on my system, after I downloaded and put the firmware file in the right spot. But other than that, I'm using the stock 2.6.26 kernel that came with Debian. (I've since upgraded to 2.6.28 to get newer audio drivers for my onboard Realtek ALC883 sound).

MythTV sometimes gives an error when changing channels, but I don't know if that's a driver problem with this card, or a MythTV bug.

-- Kevin