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Warner is celebrating the 25th anniversary of Risky Business by releasing a Deluxe Edition on DVD and debuting the teen comedy on Blu-ray Disc.
The film that made Tom Cruise a movie star will be released on Sept. 16 (prebook Aug. 12) priced at $19.96 for the standard-definition version and $28.99 for high-definition.
Both will include a new making-of documentary, an alternate ending and commentary by Cruise, director Paul Brickman and producer Jon Avnet.
On Blu-ray, the commentary will be a video commentary, and the release will include a digital copy of the film that can be transferred to a PC or portable device.
mdc3000 05-02-08, 07:35 PM One of my favourite movies, so this is a must buy - hope the transfer is decent!
johnnyknoxsvill 05-02-08, 09:17 PM Ill pick it up when it goes on sale, hopefully Fry's will have it for $19.99
Maestro J 05-02-08, 09:45 PM Video commentary should be good, if it's anything like MI:3's TC and JJ video commentary which was entertaining.
TuenMuner 05-02-08, 10:18 PM This will be a blind buy for me.
DavidHir 05-03-08, 01:06 AM I watched the DVD recently and it is horrible...even for DVD standards. Terrible compression artifacting/blocking noise. I'm sure the BD will be a good upgrade.
A more complete annoucement can be found here:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Warner/Disc_Announcements/Warner_Gets_Into_Risky_Business_on_Blu-ray/1708
Warner has announced the Blu-ray release of 'Risky Business' this September, in a 25th Anniversary Edition with all-new extras featuring star Tom Cruise.
Warner will debut the long-awaited special edition of the film on Blu-ray September 26, day-and-date with a new standard DVD re-issue.
Newly-produced bonus features include an audio commentary with director Paul Brickman, producer Jon Avnet, and Cruise, a making-of documentary, and alternate ending.
Warner promises newly-remastered video and audio, although tech specs have not yet been revealed.
WestCoastD 05-05-08, 07:39 PM A great movie (classic), one of my all-time favorites. I've probably seen it like 40 times (seriously). To be honest I don't see any need to re-purchase it on Blu-ray, as it has been broadcasted on cable-TV for a number of years now, as well as being available on DVD............it's been run into the ground. Although for anyone who's never experienced it yet it could be worth buying Blu-ray.
Sometimes you just gotta say what the freck... I'll buy it.
townofturley 05-05-08, 09:12 PM A great movie (classic), one of my all-time favorites. I've probably seen it like 40 times (seriously). To be honest I don't see any need to re-purchase it on Blu-ray, as it has been broadcasted on cable-TV for a number of years now, as well as being available on DVD............it's been run into the ground. Although for anyone who's never experienced it yet it could be worth buying Blu-ray.
"A great movie....it's been run into the ground".
Umm. Need to think about that for a while.
OK. Thought about it. It's a great movie. A new transfer. Certainly better than what you've seen broadcast. Yup, definitely worth acquiring. Don't quite get your logic, but oh well.
townofturley 05-05-08, 09:13 PM I'm sure the BD will be a good upgrade.
We'll find out when it's released.
townofturley 05-05-08, 09:14 PM Ill pick it up when it goes on sale, hopefully Fry's will have it for $19.99
I'll get it when it comes out at any price.
TWISTED BULLET 05-05-08, 09:30 PM it is def worth getting
DavidHir 05-06-08, 11:27 AM We'll find out when it's released.
Yes, we will. Warner has been doing a pretty good job on catalog titles lately and considering how bad the DVD was, I think it will be at least respectable.
WestCoastD 05-06-08, 06:55 PM Sometimes you just gotta say what the freck... I'll buy it.yeah, you're right, I'll buy it:D
Don't quite get your logicI guess I feel apprehensive because HBO will periodically run this movie several times in a week (multiple times a day). But I'll probably buy the blu-ray just to experience the new mastering on Blu-ray (I also love that seen when Tom and Rebecca De Mornay are standing in the doorway, the wind blows and, well, you know..........):)
lgans316 09-14-08, 01:15 AM http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews40/risky_business_blu-ray.htm
The caps look above average. Tom Cruise looks like a shemale.:D
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews40/risky_business_blu-ray.htm
The caps look above average. Tom Cruise looks like a shemale.:D
Thanks for the update, lgans.
This is a must pickup for me. I love Risky Business... its truly a guilty pleasure.
Can't wait!!
msgohan 09-14-08, 02:27 AM PQ is exactly what I expected. The typical Warner look but overall very good with bold colors.
Patsfan123 09-14-08, 10:17 AM No one mentioned that is has TrueHD when everyone worried that it would be Dolby Digital only.
lgans316 09-14-08, 10:23 AM No one mentioned that is has TrueHD when everyone worried that it would be Dolby Digital only.
Our eyes only see the bad ones.:D The effect is compensated by the no-show of lossless audio in Pushing Daisies.
DavidHir 09-14-08, 11:46 AM I'll pick this up when it gets a good sales price like a few other Warner's catalog titles. As I predicted, it will look fine and seems to be a huge increase in PQ from the previous SD DVD.
allargon 09-14-08, 12:20 PM http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews40/risky_business_blu-ray.htm
The caps look above average. Tom Cruise looks like a shemale.:D
Probably should tell DVD Beaver the difference between BD-Live (profile 2.0) and Bonus View (profile 1.1)...
Extras:
Cited on the back of the box as 'Exclusive to Blu-ray Video Commentary by Tom Cruise, director Paul Brickman and producer Jon Avnet" (notable as playable only accessible with BonusView of BDLive capability). Funnily enough, I just heard Jon Avnet on the 88 Minutes commentary and he definitely benefits from a the grouping with Brickman and Mr. mega-super-star Tom Cruise (whom admits he was just trying not to get fired in Risky Business.) Interesting that Warner limited this commentary to the Blu-ray features as opposed to just being able to listen to the audio by itself (without video window). So you definitely need the BDLive feature to access the commentary.
No BDLive -- just Bonus View... :rolleyes:
I'll pick this up when it gets a good sales price like a few other Warner's catalog titles. As I predicted, it will look fine and seems to be a huge increase in PQ from the previous SD DVD.
Is it from a different source?
Picked this up @ Best Buy for $18.99 + tax.
Nice picture, a few soft shots - the train love scene looked like it was shot with a filter (diffuser?) at times. I noticed a thin veil of grain throughout (no DNR), however, black levels were a little off in certain scenes.
Overall, I'd give the PQ a B score. Its an 80's movie, so it has that "80's look".
Sound was okay, but the music really hit a home run. I had the TrueHD soundtrack pumped up, and Phil Collins "In the Air" really delivered.
A definite buy for fans of the movie. A nice rental for fans of teen-lite comedies, or fans of Tom Cruise in general.
"Time of your life, huh kid?" :p
townofturley 09-17-08, 09:42 PM My copy arrived today while I was at work. Haven't watched it yet. Haven't even opened the shipping box yet. Will do so soon. Should I watch it tonight or wait for the weekend and watch it with a honey?
My copy arrived today while I was at work. Haven't watched it yet. Haven't even opened the shipping box yet. Will do so soon. Should I watch it tonight or wait for the weekend and watch it with a honey?
Watch it with a honey.
That train love scene is hot as hell.
Who knows? You might get lucky...
IrishLegend 08-11-09, 12:31 AM Does anyone know why the commentary doesn't work on the Blu-Ray? I get the PiP but no sound from the commentary only the movie? Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Does anyone know why the commentary doesn't work on the Blu-Ray? I get the PiP but no sound from the commentary only the movie? Any suggestions?
Thanks.
because you're probably sending out the sound bitstream. You have to have the player decode the audio to pcm and send it out to the AVR.
Dave Mack 08-12-09, 12:53 AM http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews40/risky%20business%20blu-ray/large/large%20risky%20business%209.jpg
oh my.....
msgohan 08-12-09, 03:47 AM http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews40/risky%20business%20blu-ray/large/large%20risky%20business%209.jpg
oh my.....
DVDBeaver sure knows how to pick their screenshots sometimes. :)
JimmyHDTV 01-02-10, 07:21 PM I picked up Risky Business on blu-ray last week, primarily because of the new commentary (and because the only other version I have is a Laserdisc). But they way they've implemented the commentary makes it worthless. Allow me go on a little rant about Blu-Ray for a moment...
I love the image and sound quality of Blu-Ray, but the way that special features have been implemented on most discs (especially newer ones) is just frustrating. Besides all the Java and BD-Live compatibility problems (and does anyone disagree that BD-Live is pretty much totally worthless and nothing but a pain?), they've taken the simple way that DVD worked and made it flaky and complicated.
My problem with Risky Business is that you can't just choose the commentary audio track like you can with DVD and older Blu-Ray titles (like Warner's own Kubrick and Dirty Harry films), where it's a separate audio track with a primary/commentary audio mix as they wanted it, so you can actually hear whichever is most relevant at the moment.
No, now your player must "mix" the commentary track with the primary audio on the fly. This is a pain from the standpoint of having to go into the player's setup and mess around with your audio settings (and because the disc has Java, you can't continue where you left off...sigh). But the bigger problem is, the primary audio is at full volume, and the commentary is just low-level mumbling...I simply can't hear it. The train sounds over the opening credits obliterate the commentary, and so do most scenes (especially any with music playing).
This makes the commentary track totally worthless, and after trying some other audio settings, I couldn't make it better, and I just gave up on it. Has anyone else had this issue, or am I missing something?
Back to the BD rant...most people I know, when they hear about the firmware other issues with BD, get scared away from it. These issues simply didn't exist with the DVD format at the age that BD is now. The BD producers are not doing themselves any favors by adding all the complicated features that simply don't work properly. I'm no stranger to firmware upgrading, it's not a problem for me, but I find myself having more and more problems with BD as time goes on. I couldn't get the new Harry Potter movie to play on my Samsung P1500 with any version of the firmware (I ended up getting a Panasonic BD70 during Christmas, and it works fine on that), and I've had other issues as well. I'm worried that BD is killing itself with all the useless nonsense that has nothing to do with just enjoying the movie and some extra content with properly working audio.
-JimmyHDTV
Dave Mack 01-02-10, 08:31 PM I picked up Risky Business on blu-ray last week, primarily because of the new commentary (and because the only other version I have is a Laserdisc). But they way they've implemented the commentary makes it worthless. Allow me go on a little rant about Blu-Ray for a moment...
I love the image and sound quality of Blu-Ray, but the way that special features have been implemented on most discs (especially newer ones) is just frustrating. Besides all the Java and BD-Live compatibility problems (and does anyone disagree that BD-Live is pretty much totally worthless and nothing but a pain?), they've taken the simple way that DVD worked and made it flaky and complicated.
My problem with Risky Business is that you can't just choose the commentary audio track like you can with DVD and older Blu-Ray titles (like Warner's own Kubrick and Dirty Harry films), where it's a separate audio track with a primary/commentary audio mix as they wanted it, so you can actually hear whichever is most relevant at the moment.
No, now your player must "mix" the commentary track with the primary audio on the fly. This is a pain from the standpoint of having to go into the player's setup and mess around with your audio settings (and because the disc has Java, you can't continue where you left off...sigh). But the bigger problem is, the primary audio is at full volume, and the commentary is just low-level mumbling...I simply can't hear it. The train sounds over the opening credits obliterate the commentary, and so do most scenes (especially any with music playing).
This makes the commentary track totally worthless, and after trying some other audio settings, I couldn't make it better, and I just gave up on it. Has anyone else had this issue, or am I missing something?
Back to the BD rant...most people I know, when they hear about the firmware other issues with BD, get scared away from it. These issues simply didn't exist with the DVD format at the age that BD is now. The BD producers are not doing themselves any favors by adding all the complicated features that simply don't work properly. I'm no stranger to firmware upgrading, it's not a problem for me, but I find myself having more and more problems with BD as time goes on. I couldn't get the new Harry Potter movie to play on my Samsung P1500 with any version of the firmware (I ended up getting a Panasonic BD70 during Christmas, and it works fine on that), and I've had other issues as well. I'm worried that BD is killing itself with all the useless nonsense that has nothing to do with just enjoying the movie and some extra content with properly working audio.
-JimmyHDTV
fully agreed. I just got my sister's family a sony BD player (360) and I hope it's smooth for them because they are pretty oldschool and will pretty much NEVER wanna deal with fw upgrades or hooking up to the internet. This better be just like a glorified PQ dvd player experience for them...
DavidHir 01-03-10, 01:59 PM fully agreed. I just got my sister's family a sony BD player (360) and I hope it's smooth for them because they are pretty oldschool and will pretty much NEVER wanna deal with fw upgrades or hooking up to the internet. This better be just like a glorified PQ dvd player experience for them...
My sister's family bought a Panasonic BD35 last year and I'll download/burn the latest firmware once in a while for them since I know they'll never do it.
JimmyHDTV 01-03-10, 09:11 PM fully agreed. I just got my sister's family a sony BD player (360) and I hope it's smooth for them because they are pretty oldschool and will pretty much NEVER wanna deal with fw upgrades or hooking up to the internet. This better be just like a glorified PQ dvd player experience for them...
I also gave my sister a BD player for X-mas, the LG BD270, which does not have an internet connection and no BD live. I upgraded the firmware via USB before I gave it to her, so hopefully there won't be any issues. I'm not really confident that it will remain trouble free forever, though.
JimmyHDTV 01-04-10, 10:07 PM ...This makes the commentary track totally worthless, and after trying some other audio settings, I couldn't make it better, and I just gave up on it. Has anyone else had this issue, or am I missing something?...
I tried playing the commentary on my new Panasonic DMPBD70 (after having to adjust the audio settings buried in the setup menus, of course), and the mix works well enough to at least hear the commentary, bringing the sound level of the main soundtrack down enough. My Samsung P1500 did not mix the tracks properly, with the main track at full volume, making the commentary not audible most of the time.
Still don't care for this way of doing it, I'd rather just have a separately selectable commentary track, isn't that always better and easier? Who cares about hi-def audio when listening to commentary anyway?
JimmyHDTV 01-06-10, 04:16 PM I tried playing the commentary on my new Panasonic DMPBD70 (after having to adjust the audio settings buried in the setup menus, of course), and the mix works well enough to at least hear the commentary, bringing the sound level of the main soundtrack down enough. My Samsung P1500 did not mix the tracks properly, with the main track at full volume, making the commentary not audible most of the time.
Still don't care for this way of doing it, I'd rather just have a separately selectable commentary track, isn't that always better and easier? Who cares about hi-def audio when listening to commentary anyway?
I ran into another reason that the pip commentary mixing/take-over isn't cool, since I'm in a BD complaining mood. I tried The Hangover commentary on my P1500, which works similarly to the Risky Business one. One thing I like to do when listening to a commentary is to turn on the movie's subtitles so I know what the dialog is even if it can't be heard over the commentary. Well, with The Hangover, the only subtitles available are for the commentary itself, no option to show the movie's. It's nice to have commentary subtitles available, but not ONLY that. And when you play the movie without the commentary, there's no option to show the commentary subtitles, which would be a cool option. This is just really annoying to me...all the pieces are there, but you can't use them the way you want to. DVD doesn't have this problem...you just have audio tracks and subtitles, all independently selectable. Why does BD need to work differently?
I picked up Risky Business on blu-ray last week, primarily because of the new commentary (and because the only other version I have is a Laserdisc). But they way they've implemented the commentary makes it worthless. Allow me go on a little rant about Blu-Ray for a moment...
I love the image and sound quality of Blu-Ray, but the way that special features have been implemented on most discs (especially newer ones) is just frustrating. Besides all the Java and BD-Live compatibility problems (and does anyone disagree that BD-Live is pretty much totally worthless and nothing but a pain?), they've taken the simple way that DVD worked and made it flaky and complicated.
My problem with Risky Business is that you can't just choose the commentary audio track like you can with DVD and older Blu-Ray titles (like Warner's own Kubrick and Dirty Harry films), where it's a separate audio track with a primary/commentary audio mix as they wanted it, so you can actually hear whichever is most relevant at the moment.
No, now your player must "mix" the commentary track with the primary audio on the fly. This is a pain from the standpoint of having to go into the player's setup and mess around with your audio settings (and because the disc has Java, you can't continue where you left off...sigh). But the bigger problem is, the primary audio is at full volume, and the commentary is just low-level mumbling...I simply can't hear it. The train sounds over the opening credits obliterate the commentary, and so do most scenes (especially any with music playing).
This makes the commentary track totally worthless, and after trying some other audio settings, I couldn't make it better, and I just gave up on it. Has anyone else had this issue, or am I missing something?
Back to the BD rant...most people I know, when they hear about the firmware other issues with BD, get scared away from it. These issues simply didn't exist with the DVD format at the age that BD is now. The BD producers are not doing themselves any favors by adding all the complicated features that simply don't work properly. I'm no stranger to firmware upgrading, it's not a problem for me, but I find myself having more and more problems with BD as time goes on. I couldn't get the new Harry Potter movie to play on my Samsung P1500 with any version of the firmware (I ended up getting a Panasonic BD70 during Christmas, and it works fine on that), and I've had other issues as well. I'm worried that BD is killing itself with all the useless nonsense that has nothing to do with just enjoying the movie and some extra content with properly working audio.
-JimmyHDTV
JimmyHDTV, I'd like to stamp this post on the forehead of everyone of these Hollywood studio executives who have made this format close to an insufferable mess on more than one occasion. I've found myself almost apologizing to people I've given Blu-Ray players to because there always has to be the caveats: "now remember, this doesn't work exactly like DVD, there's long load times and the extras sometimes don't respond and the resume and stop....... blah blah blah. Most of my friends when told about the firmware and assorted hassles have that quizzical look on their face like "Man are you kiddin' me. Who needs this kind of hassle just to watch a movie?". But then I tell them, you know what, sometimes you just have to say, "What the f@#k!".
Most of my friends when told about the firmware and assorted hassles have that quizzical look on their face like "Man are you kiddin' me. Who needs this kind of hassle just to watch a movie?". But then I tell them, you know what, sometimes you just have to say, "What the f@#k!".
Point is, you shouldn't have to say wtf. Not being able stop and resume playback on blu-rays is the number complaint I see/hear from new Blu adapters. They are mostly unaware, as expected. You would think by now Blu would drop java if that is the only thing preventing it, or make the java a-holes figure it out for kripes sake! We can send people to the moon but can't playback a movie from last stopping point??? LOL
I work in computer technology and java is the bane of the industry, we all hate it.
JimmyHDTV 01-07-10, 03:33 PM I work in computer technology and java is the bane of the industry, we all hate it.
We're getting way off-topic here, but this statement is not true. I'm a software developer and I use all sorts of platforms, including DotNET and Java, and they both have their place. The biggest problem with Java is also one of its strengths, the fact that it's free and open-source and runs on anything, and therefore is a messier platform because there isn't a single entity fully controlling it (like in the case of DotNET, Microsoft). But depending on how you want to use it, it's as simple to setup and use as anything, and is one of your only options if you're not running a Windows platform.
Making Java as part of the spec of Blu-ray was probably a mistake, but I think any complex programming platform would of resulted in the same BD mess we have now, so don't blame Java. There's no reason any Blu-ray player couldn't do resume-play on any disc, Java or not...other than laziness by the engineers involved. I'd be ashamed of myself if I was responsible for not including that feature. My Panasonic XP30 DVD player not only does resume play, but I can mark the play location of any disc, and it will remember that for up to 5 discs to resume any of them any time. I really miss that for Blu-ray. Again, only engineer laziness prevents us from having that feature. The BD player makers should step up and implement it.
skibum5000 01-08-10, 08:23 PM We're getting way off-topic here, but this statement is not true. I'm a software developer and I use all sorts of platforms, including DotNET and Java, and they both have their place. The biggest problem with Java is also one of its strengths, the fact that it's free and open-source and runs on anything, and therefore is a messier platform because there isn't a single entity fully controlling it (like in the case of DotNET, Microsoft). But depending on how you want to use it, it's as simple to setup and use as anything, and is one of your only options if you're not running a Windows platform.
Making Java as part of the spec of Blu-ray was probably a mistake, but I think any complex programming platform would of resulted in the same BD mess we have now, so don't blame Java. There's no reason any Blu-ray player couldn't do resume-play on any disc, Java or not...other than laziness by the engineers involved. I'd be ashamed of myself if I was responsible for not including that feature. My Panasonic XP30 DVD player not only does resume play, but I can mark the play location of any disc, and it will remember that for up to 5 discs to resume any of them any time. I really miss that for Blu-ray. Again, only engineer laziness prevents us from having that feature. The BD player makers should step up and implement it.
on a PC you can get a few discs to do resume play, but the ones that use Java make it fail
kucharsk 01-09-10, 01:27 AM As an aside, I've come across numerous SD DVDs that don't allow you to choose the commentary track through the "audio" button, but instead only will do so via the disc menus.
Not quite as painful as BD, but still annoying.
nosdavid 03-06-10, 10:12 AM Probably should tell DVD Beaver the difference Extras:
Cited on the back of the box as 'Exclusive to Blu-ray Video Commentary by Tom Cruise, director Paul Brickman and producer Jon Avnet" (notable as playable only accessible with BonusView of BDLive capability). Funnily enough, I just heard Jon Avnet on the 88 Minutes commentary and he definitely benefits from a the grouping with Brickman and Mr. mega-super-star Tom Cruise (whom admits he was just trying not to get fired in Risky Business.) Interesting that Warner limited this commentary to the Blu-ray features as opposed to just being able to listen to the audio by itself (without video window). So you definitely need the BDLive feature to access the commentary.
So do I need to have my player connected to the internet to watch the video commentary? I'm using a PS3.
iDarren 03-06-10, 01:58 PM I'm not particularly fussy when it comes to PQ, but the PQ on this was very dissapointing. Images were often very soft with poor detail.
It was a big hit when I was a kid, but I now find the prostitution theme tacky at best. Men getting with pros, or expoiting them, is very UNcool. Obviously the director had another viewpoint.
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