I'm really looking forward to this one to finally make it's way to Blu-ray. I have held off renting the SD DVD.

Does anyone have a solid answer on whether the release date is May 20 or June 3? I know thw Paramount press release said June 3 but Amazon.com and some other places still show May 20.

Last I heard there wasn't a US release date. Did I miss something while on vacation last week?

Last I heard there wasn't a US release date. Did I miss something while on vacation last week?

June 3rd, I believe.

Awesome. This is a must buy for me.

I haven't decided if I'll rent or buy. Need time to think about it.

no questions asked buy for me, probably wont even care about the price

havent paid full price for a blu yet but might for this guy

I just preordered it, along with a bunch of others. I can't wait for this disc. Hopefully the reviews will start popping up soon.

There is too much confusion over May 20th or June 3rd. Why did amazon(and various other sites) have to do this? I would love for this to come out May 20th, but it's hard to believe considering the press release. Amazon is certainly welcome to ship it out on May 20th :)

I just preordered it, along with a bunch of others. I can't wait for this disc.
Amazon is certainly welcome to ship it out on May 20th :)

Same here. If they don't I'll be happy with $5 off amazon.;)

$27 is a bit much for a movie. But I already have this on DVD, and the picture was awful, the DD sound actually sounded compressed. I'm ready to throw down now. Best movie of 07 hands down.
NVM- The real reason I need this is to hear that Jonny Greenwood score. That opening siren type thing(What instrument makes that noise?) will sound wicked. Plus all of the plucked strings and erie music. Yay.

Same here. If they don't I'll be happy with $5 off amazon.;)

$27 is a bit much for a movie. But I already have this on DVD, and the picture was awful, the DD sound actually sounded compressed. I'm ready to throw down now. Best movie of 07 hands down.
NVM- The real reason I need this is to hear that Jonny Greenwood score. That opening siren type thing(What instrument makes that noise?) will sound wicked. Plus all of the plucked strings and erie music. Yay.


Totally agree shadowrage! Best movie I saw all year and the NTSC DVD was not very good at all. It has to do with the film itself, not being digitally graded and such and the SD transfer does not hold up the organic beauty inherent in the film. The limitation of video is really apparent with this disc and I'll gladly pay whatever to get this on Blu. :D

Is this the German release or something? I don't see any pre-order on amazon for U.S.?

edit - never mind I found it =)

Final coverart

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/459/bloodfinalbdiy9.th.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bloodfinalbdiy9.jpg) http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/984/bloodfinalbackbdaz6.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bloodfinalbackbdaz6.jpg)

Hmm, I like the German cover better.

I see some sites are listing the release date as May 20th (as well as that date for Cloverfield). Could Paramount have moved up the date? Or, is it a confusion with their first wave of titles?

I see some sites are listing the release date as May 20th (as well as that date for Cloverfield). Could Paramount have moved up the date? Or, is it a confusion with their first wave of titles?

It seems Amazon made an error. I have seen them for June 3rd elsewhere. People with access to the Paramount retailer site also said they are listed for June 3rd.

Amazon, Wally, and BB all list May 20.

Wait this version of TWBB doesn't come in a paper CD sleeve?:rolleyes:
At least Paramount can't mess up the BD case.

"In the U.S., There Will Be Blood, Cloverfield, Bee Movie, Face/Off and Next will begin arriving May 20 to capitalize on Memorial Day and Father's Day"
"Following the initial wave of titles, Producer J.J. Abrams' monster hit, Cloverfield, arrives on Blu-ray on June 3."
"Director Paul Thomas Anderson's critically-acclaimed epic There Will Be Blood also arrives on Blu-ray June 3."

That press release was written wrong. I think.

A definite answer will probaby come about before I check back in here. A friend at a local Blockbuster store lets me know immediately when a new release arrives and is then stored in the stock room for future rental.

Amazon, Wally, and BB all list May 20.

Wait this version of TWBB doesn't come in a paper CD sleeve?:rolleyes:
At least Paramount can't mess up the BD case.

"In the U.S., There Will Be Blood, Cloverfield, Bee Movie, Face/Off and Next will begin arriving May 20 to capitalize on Memorial Day and Father's Day"
"Following the initial wave of titles, Producer J.J. Abrams' monster hit, Cloverfield, arrives on Blu-ray on June 3."
"Director Paul Thomas Anderson's critically-acclaimed epic There Will Be Blood also arrives on Blu-ray June 3."

That press release was written wrong. I think.
Well, you could read it as saying that some of those will "begin arriving May 20", with Cloverfield and TWBB arriving on June 3. I mean, technically, it is correct, but it certainly could be worded a lot better.

Final coverart

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/459/bloodfinalbdiy9.th.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bloodfinalbdiy9.jpg) http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/984/bloodfinalbackbdaz6.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bloodfinalbackbdaz6.jpg)

Hmm? I'd say this time the DVDs have better cover-art. That image looks a little more arbitrary to me, like the old VHS days when you often just got a publicity still with the title slapped over it.

That said, it won't in any way deter me from buying this one.

very well done movie. Great acting.
To me, it's one of those movies I'm glad I saw, but can't actually see myself ever watching it again.

buy for me

That sucks... I wanted the cover from the 2 disc DVD... that cover just looks amazing for some reason.

That sucks... I wanted the cover from the 2 disc DVD... that cover just looks amazing for some reason.

i'm sure one of the many talented people here will come up w/ an alternate cover we can download

i'm sure one of the many talented people here will come up w/ an alternate cover we can download

Just isn't the same though :(.

The bits confirmed the 6/3 release date for TWBB and Clovey. Hopefully the stores I pre-ordered from will compensate me for this inconvenience. Seriously, because Paramount's pricing is garbage. Too bad the movie's aren't.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13870845#post13870845

Trying dvdempire. You can grab for $24 a piece.

Greetings,

I should receive TWBB and Cloverfield for review. Hopefully they will show up shortly.


Regards,

As usual thanks Ralph. Keeping my fingers crossed on these two especially Cloverfield.

does this blu-ray release have the same bonus as the 2disc version?


if not then that is just a joke

^It does.

Love the cover actually; love the movie even more. TWBB should've won 'Best Picture' over 'No Country for Old Men'. Not that NCFOM is bad; TWBB is superior IMHO.

Love the cover actually; love the movie even more. TWBB should've won 'Best Picture' over 'No Country for Old Men'. Not that NCFOM is bad; TWBB is superior IMHO.
Not very fond of the cover myself, but then again, I usually look at the spines anyways. And yes, I personally thought this movie was much better than No Country. It wasn't a bad movie, I just think the Coen's can do and have done much better.

Next Tuesday is right around the corner. Shouldn't we start to see some reviews pop up? I'm starving for any kind of morsel.

My copy shipped a couple of days ago so reviews should definitely show up very soon.

very well done movie. Great acting.
To me, it's one of those movies I'm glad I saw, but can't actually see myself ever watching it again.

agreed.

Anyone worried yet?

Cloverfield reviews are up but still no There Will Be Blood.

And no one has confirmed receiving one yet.

I went ahead and rented the SD disc from Nutflix and was pretty satisfied with the movie. Its not QUITE as incredible as some make it out to be, but most movies arent so thats no biggy. I say to rent it first though as I always do since tastes are different and there are plenty of people that will NOT/did not like this movie.

I didnt think the transfer was that bad, but the BD should blow it away.

I think its worth a buy....but not for $27 bucks. I'll pay $20-ish for new releases but this is closer to $30-ish which is simply not acceptable IMO. So, I'll buy it when "There Will Be a Sale". :p

:D

i'm sure one of the many talented people here will come up w/ an alternate cover we can download

ok, it's one thing to enjoy the movie experience at home. it's another to be total nerds. come on people.

Biggest blind buy beware I can ever reiterate regarding the content of this movie.

Biggest blind buy beware I can ever reiterate regarding the content of this movie.

I take it you didn't like the film? Is there anything specific that causes you to issue that warning? And for that matter, that same warning can be said by someone for every movie out there.

Doesn't matter if one person issuing a warning liked it or not. There are probably thousands of movies folks would not issue a blind beware warning for versus this with this content.

It's OK to venture towards if one does a bit of research to learn what it is all about but the majority probably won't and I bet most would not have expected something like this when watching.

I loved the content of the movie but to each their own.

As far as the Blu-ray goes I still haven't received a shipping notice from a retailer that normally ships their disc early. I'm really excited about this film on Blu-ray because the cinematography is outstanding in this film. Some really beautiful shots along with an excellent score IMHO.

And for that matter, that same warning can be said by someone for every movie out there.

100% Correct. NO movie should be a blind-buy for everyone in the movie hobby. No freegin way. Tastes just dont all line up that neatly. That explains why some "classics" and supposed "must-haves" are certainly NOT must-haves for some people. It just doesnt work that way.

Take me for example.... I absolutely, positively focking HATE Blade Runner with every fiber of my being. Its has like a 97% on RT, it gets universally praised by almost all critics, and of course I get blasted for not liking it on HD forums. That says that most people like it, but I sure the hell dont. If I would have blindly-bought that movie I would have been completely pissed off. Im still mad I even watched it!

So, I say avoid blind-buying no matter what the hype or the circumstances. Fans of movies will not like to hear that...but they are not the ones paying for it so too damned bad for them.

There Will be Blood is no different.... RENT it first! ;)

Blade Runner was my second top blind buy warning! :)

BTW, all the discs that package released in BD came with making it the best value yet would not matter for a majority of people. Guess what? I loved it!

Take me for example.... I absolutely, positively focking HATE Blade Runner


How the hell can you not like Blade Runner, You stupid Son of a B**ch!:eek::eek::eek:


LOL:p

Doesn't matter if one person issuing a warning liked it or not. There are probably thousands of movies folks would not issue a blind beware warning for versus this with this content.

It's OK to venture towards if one does a bit of research to learn what it is all about but the majority probably won't and I bet most would not have expected something like this when watching.

I'm sorry, but I really need to ask why you are so offended by this movie. You've made two comments containing the phrases "regarding the content of this movie" and "with this content." What "content" are you specifically referring to? Is it the fact that the film portrays a fairly common aspect of human nature?

ok, it's one thing to enjoy the movie experience at home. it's another to be total nerds. come on people.

You mean like the nerds who who keep asking, where is Lord of the Rings on Blu-ray???? Or the ones waiting for Star Wars???? Or the ones who liked Gladiator???

100% Correct. NO movie should be a blind-buy for everyone in the movie hobby. No freegin way. Tastes just dont all line up that neatly. That explains why some "classics" and supposed "must-haves" are certainly NOT must-haves for some people. It just doesnt work that way.



I don't think it's THAT clear-cut. Depending on how much disposable income one has and how "into" this hobby they are (meaning, they don't have a problem of building a collection of titles that they like that may even only get watched once), there is a point where it is cheaper to blind buy than not. That's not to say it can't backfire, but, for me, I've made plenty of blind buys since DVD rolled out. My logic has been that if I rent first and decide it was good enough to keep on the shelf, I just wasted the rental fee and it just became more expensive. If you end up not liking much of what you rent, you do win. Otherwise, you lose.

I'm probably batting close to 50/50 at this point... maybe a little higher on the side of titles I had wanted to keep. There's always the option of quickly turning a bad blind buy around on Ebay and end up being out a little more than what it would cost to rent (these things seem to be starting to depreciate even faster, though).

There are times where I'll be in a "bad" period where I get hit with "average" blind buys in a row that I am just not into. Then I do start to think about whether it's time to rent. But, then I'll start to get luckier...

And to go along with your "Blade Runner" example (which I love).... I HATED "Blazing Saddles". That was a blind buy on HD-DVD and I just sat there wondering if this only would hold up today if you held some kind of nostalgia for it. It's "brilliance" was certainly lost on me.

Of course, I've done dumber things, too - like, blind buying "Wild Hogs". Really, I was just asking for it. I deserved that.

I don't think it's THAT clear-cut. Depending on how much disposable income one has and how "into" this hobby they are (meaning, they don't have a problem of building a collection of titles that they like that may even only get watched once), there is a point where it is cheaper to blind buy than not. That's not to say it can't backfire, but, for me, I've made plenty of blind buys since DVD rolled out. My logic has been that if I rent first and decide it was good enough to keep on the shelf, I just wasted the rental fee and it just became more expensive.

I use netflix. Flat fee for the month so if I like a film I don't feel like I spent any extra $

:)

How the hell can you not like Blade Runner, You stupid Son of a B**ch!:eek::eek::eek:


LOL:p

Hahaha....I dont know... it just aggravates the crap out of me. Its slow, pointless, boring, useless, stupid, awful music, horrible performances, chintzy special effects, etc, etc.

And, most of all, Battys speech at the end that is *supposed* to have some incredible "meaning of life" theme just makes me laugh because its so damned corny and silly.

Otherwise, its a great flick. :D

chintzy special effects...?!?!?

Awful music...?!?!?

End speech corny and silly...?!?!

Thats okay I heard someone say that the Shinning was slow and boaring in one thread and bad acting in an other????

Thats okay I heard someone say that the Shinning was slow and boaring in one thread and bad acting in an other????

The "Shinning"...?


http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/615/shinningik7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


;)

100% Correct. NO movie should be a blind-buy for everyone in the movie hobby. No freegin way. Tastes just dont all line up that neatly. That explains why some "classics" and supposed "must-haves" are certainly NOT must-haves for some people. It just doesnt work that way.
There Will be Blood is no different.... RENT it first! ;)So do you have stock in netflix or blockbuster?

Awful music...?!?!?
There Will be Blood has one of the greatest original scores ever.

End speech corny and silly...?!?!
There Will be Blood doesn't end with a speech at all. It is much more sinister.:)

chintzy special effects...?!?!?
It doesn't even include those.

Unless you guys are talking about Blade Runner. Awesome Special effects, wicked cool soundtrack, he doesn't say anything at the end. It does have some pacing problems though, you can take the noir to far. I think I'm going to watch it again tonight.

Where are the TWBB reviews? Is it just me or does TWBB feel like a film that Kubrick could have had a hand in? The opening is mostly a silent film, the soundtrack is literally haunting, photography is gorgeous, the violence is violent, and a runtime that most don't appreciate, don't forget the ending either.

So do you have stock in netflix or blockbuster?

Huh? Go ahead and buy everything blindly. Do you own stock in movie studios? :p

I own both Nutflix and Crotchbuster. Rent from me and make me rich. hehe

Unless you guys are talking about Blade Runner.


They/We were talking about Blade Runner. Like I said.... I take a ton of heat for trashing it(Blade Runner) on internet forums. People almost take it personally.

Clowns. :D

As for TWBB: Excellent flick, but you should still rent it. :p

As for TWBB: Excellent flick, but you should still rent it. :p

No way man. I've seen it twice in theaters. I bought the crappy DVD(packaging , video, and audio are all garbage). I pre-ordered the BD as soon as it popped up. I love everything about it.

It's not for everyone, but it really is something special.

Yep, the TWBB dvd has very underwhelming PQ. Can't wait for the BD as you can tell the photography is gorgeous.

How come most of you guys haven't received it yet? I live in the UK and received my copy this morning.:confused:

I've got it.

PQ is inconsistent. Soft in many scenes along with moire on rooftops and very digital looking on certain wide and deep focus shots (fields). Blacks are great in some areas, murky gray in others. Some sequences do look breathtaking but it's not the reference disc i was expecting. VC-1 encode. I did not see a theatrical print of TWBB, so i cannot compare it to the b ray.

Color me unimpressed too. Picture is soft, and the blacks levels are pretty bad.

Hiya paul. I noticed moire on the SD dvd last night on a rooftop in one shot. Very surprised it's there in the BD.


:(

Let's see what BVHE UK cook up with their release.

Hiya paul. I noticed moire on the SD dvd last night on a rooftop in one shot. Very surprised it's there in the BD.


:(

I noticed it on the railroad depot's roof and i believe on Eli's house on a few occasions.

Yep lots of moire. Saw it on the rocks when Eli approach Daniel at the pool of oil.

I noticed it on the railroad depot's roof and i believe on Eli's house on a few occasions.

that's it.

shame. Was really looking forward to watching it again on BD as IMHO, the Dvd really looked kinda "meh"...

Why did Paramount switch to VC-1?:confused:
The AVCs where all 5 star encodes. Did they need to change?

I'll wait to see how Ralph scores this, it has to be an improvement over the DVD.

When you guy's say the picture is soft do you mean there is no EE and DNR? VC-1 has a tendency to smooth the picture out on its own. If it's just that then it should be ok.

Hows the audio? That's what I'm really interested in.

High bit rate VC-1 was picked by the director and technical crew as mentioned by member Geonosis in HDD and Blu-ray.com forum when he first broke the news out.

High bit rate VC-1 was picked by the director and technical crew as mentioned by member Geonosis in HDD and Blu-ray.com forum when he first broke the news out.

Yeah but Cloverfield is VC-1 too. I think the more geek type directors shy away from it a bit. For instance Spielberg and Michael Bay. I'm pretty sure Lucas will use AVC too. Does Zemeckis oversee his transfers?

Weren't all Paramount HD-DVDs VC-1 except for Beowulf and Transformers?

Or maybe it was that all of the Dreamworks Blu-rays were AVC(figures Spielberg would found a studio that uses the video codec I like)? Because everything else from Paramount was MPEG2. That's probably the answer, because Bee Movie is AVC. I bet you we only see VC-1 on Paramount titles from now on(except if Top Gun and the Jack Ryans already had encodes that were good to go)

For crying out loud, the format war is over and we're still seeing this VC1 vs. AVC on this forum...

Vincent

Why did Paramount switch to VC-1?:confused:
The AVCs where all 5 star encodes. Did they need to change?

I'll wait to see how Ralph scores this, it has to be an improvement over the DVD.

When you guy's say the picture is soft do you mean there is no EE and DNR? VC-1 has a tendency to smooth the picture out on its own. If it's just that then it should be ok.

Hows the audio? That's what I'm really interested in.

For crying out loud, the format war is over and we're still seeing this VC1 vs. AVC on this forum...
Vincent

No no no. I thought they were using AVC all along. So it would seem arbitrary to switch. Only the Dreamworks titles had AVC. Paramount was using MPEG2.

So they did switch to a more efficient codec from MPEG2-->VC-1. I love high bitrate VC-1(Shoot em Up, Starship Troopers, Orphanage).

Vincent

Who is crying ? Why are people getting too offended by normal comments and emoticons ?

VC-1 has a tendency to smooth the picture out on its own ==> May I know why this ain't valid statement when it's been proven ? May I know what's wrong for a human being to having set some expectation ?

No offense here. I don't see anyone crying out loud.

Who is crying ? Why are people getting too offended by normal comments and emoticons ?

VC-1 has a tendency to smooth the picture out on its own ==> May I know why this ain't valid statement when it's been proven ? May I know what's wrong for a human being to having set some expectation ?

No offense here. I don't see anyone crying out loud.

Where has it been "proven" that VC1 "smooths out details" all on its own? Show me some actual "proof" beyond some posts on a website forum.

Vincent

Where has it been "proven" that VC1 "smooths out details" all on its own? Show me some actual "proof" beyond some posts on a website forum.

Vincent

Please go through the comparisons and codec wars threads in HDTV discussion forum.

Let's see what BVHE UK cook up with their release.

thats right-Disney has the rights in the UK

and Touchstone has the rights for the German BD

Is it possible we could get several versions of the bd??

Please go through the comparisons and codec wars threads in HDTV discussion forum.

I have, and I haven't seen any proof that VC1 "smooths out details" that other codecs magically maintain at similar data rates.

Vincent

I have, and I haven't seen any proof that VC1 "smooths out details" that other codecs magically maintain at similar data rates.

Vincent

It's not magic. You can find some good info here
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=827529

here's one with a direct comparison of VC-1 and AVC, with examples of the smoothing.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1029931
I didn't mean to get off topic, so we might want to move the discussion to that thread.

Seriously, how's the AQ on TWBB?

It's not magic. You can find some good info here
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=827529

Point me to some specific, scientific proof that VC1 as a codec in and of itself "smooths out details" that the other codes leave intact. Linking a 62-page thread started by Xylon- a person who hasn't said that VC1 in and of itself is insufficient in any way- proves nothing.

Vincent

I'm saddened by a few of the first impressions that have been posted in this thread. It can't be that underwhelming, can it? How's the AQ? If it is at all similar or equal to my other favourite of 2007, No Country for Old Men, then I won't get too upset. If it's worse, I might shed a few tears...

After seeing the DVD I wasn't expecting reference video. Better than the DVD is good enough for me. Hearing the score in TrueHD should be a real treat. I'm keeping this one either way, the film is just too good.

I don't know if an import could look better. With day and date releases Paramount usually puts forth all they have, even HD extras. I would still wait for Ralph's review and others just to get a wider consensus.

just got done watching it. I thought it looked really good on bd :D

thats right-Disney has the rights in the UK

and Touchstone has the rights for the German BD

Is it possible we could get several versions of the bd??

I wouldn't get too hopefull. The other releases will probably just be different encodes of the same poor transfer.

I trust member paul nyc as most of his first impression comments have been spot on. I hope it's not that bad and just didn't fulfill the high expectations some of us had though it can be still be used as a reference disc on parts.

Let's hope that the overseas release by BVHE looks better than the stateside release.

To avoid confusion, I never mentioned that it was a bad disc. I just said it's not the reference disc I was expecting. Soft in some areas, blacks are murky in some dark shots, moire patterns are evident. It does have beautiful reference disc sequences yet the inconsistencies are prominently evident. Now, because I've never seen this film before, I have nothing to base the disc on. Is it the transfer? Is it the encode? Is it the source? No idea.

just got done watching it. I thought it looked really good on bd :D

Did you notice any of the problems i noticed? If you don't mind, what b ray player and TV are you using?


Thanks!

you guys seeing moire - are you viewing at a multiple of 24p?
perhaps it's like the MI III disk where the artifacts disappear when properly displayed

luckily I didn't order this title yet

perhaps I'll buy this from the UK with my Rambo box set ;)

still on hold until I know which releases are better

[QUOTE=tsb;13989165]you guys seeing moire - are you viewing at a multiple of 24p?
perhaps it's like the MI III disk where the artifacts disappear when properly displayed

using a Panny BD-30 output at 24p into a Pioneer Elite 1140HD 50". TV accepts 24p. If there a conversion of the speed via the monitor, that's information i am not familiar with. Moire on most discs is kept to a minimum.

Regarding the MiIII disc, are you referring to the Vatican steps sequence?

[QUOTE=tsb;13989165]you guys seeing moire - are you viewing at a multiple of 24p?
perhaps it's like the MI III disk where the artifacts disappear when properly displayed

using a Panny BD-30 output at 24p into a Pioneer Elite 1140HD 50". TV accepts 24p. If there a conversion of the speed via the monitor, that's information i am not familiar with. Moire on most discs is kept to a minimum.

Regarding the MiIII disc, are you referring to the Vatican steps sequence?

yes

i'm not familiar with the Pio menu but I think if you have cinema advanced or something like that turned on then you are getting 72Hz

must be part of the encode

[QUOTE=paul nyc;13989203]

yes

i'm not familiar with the Pio menu but I think if you have cinema advanced or something like that turned on then you are getting 72Hz

must be part of the encode

paging Xylon...

[QUOTE=paul nyc;13989203]

yes

i'm not familiar with the Pio menu but I think if you have cinema advanced or something like that turned on then you are getting 72Hz

must be part of the encode

All post processing on the Pio is turned off (via the ISF calibration). View mode is PURE.

Does this mean you don't see the moire patterns ? :confused:

Seeing as how he mentioned in another post that he's seeing the moire patterns, I'd suspect that means he's seeing the moire patterns. But I might just be crazy...

Sad to hear that the moire from the SD DVD is still present on the BD version. One spot I noticed it is during the "I drink your milkshake" scene, on Daniels sweater.

Color me unimpressed too. Picture is soft, and the blacks levels are pretty bad.
Saw this theatrically and it didn't look sharp at all. In fact it looked like upconverted DVD (I kid you not), so I'm very curious how the Blu will look...

[QUOTE=paul nyc;13989330]

Does this mean you don't see the moire patterns ? :confused:

I do see the moire patterns. Sorry for the confusion.

Sad to hear that the moire from the SD DVD is still present on the BD version. One spot I noticed it is during the "I drink your milkshake" scene, on Daniels sweater.

Ahh that reminds me! i also noticed moire on his tweed jacket.

I am getting a feeling that Paramount will be switching to VC-1 permanently from AVC as pointed out by member shadowrage. However I expect DW to continue with AVC. Toshiba was heavily influencing Paramount/DW to use AVC. Now that they are no more in contract Paramount may jump back to VC-1.

Yeah but since Dreamworks was in part founded by one of the coolest film makers ever. I think those will still be AVC.

First review of the BD up.
http://www.dvdtown.com/reviews/there-will-be-blood/5973/2

Greatness but not perfection. PQ/SQ 8/9
So it's still really awesome.

But the reviewer say that some sort of filtering was applied? WTF?:confused:
I'm keeping the dvd so I'll be sure to compare.

" I suspect the engineers applied a degree of filtering here, resulting in a remarkably clean canvas but one that can sometimes look just slightly soft and glossy." since he didn't say waxy I'm guessing it is just the VC-1 smoothness.

Weren't all Paramount HD-DVDs VC-1 except for Beowulf and Transformers?


No.. Shooter, Into the Wild, Black Snake Moan, Old School, Anchorman, Blades of Glory (which I own and confirm) are all AVC. It seems like Face/Off and Shrek 3 were the last VC-1 encodes. But for the most part Paramount switched from VC-1 to AVC on HD DVD mid last year. Hot Rod, Stardust, Things We Lost In The Fire, The Heartbreak Kid, Next, Zodiac are AVC too.

All because of Toshiba's influence. The upcoming releases from Paramount (NOT DREAMWORKS) is reported to have VC-1 encodes.

All because of Toshiba's influence. The upcoming releases from Paramount (NOT DREAMWORKS) is reported to have VC-1 encodes.

Toshiba influenced them before they dropped Blu? Black Snake Moan, Blades of Glory, and Shooter were all done before the payoff.

Toshiba influenced them before they dropped Blu? Black Snake Moan, Blades of Glory, and Shooter were all done before the payoff.

Blades is Dreamworks. Where all the Paramount HD-DVD's after Shooter AVC?
Doesn't really matter now. I think it goes Paramount VC-1 and Dreamworks AVC.

I still wonder why Dreamworks but AVC on its BDs when it would have been so easy to just recycle the VC-1 encodes from the HD-DVDs. Or vice versa. Oh well they're sticking with it, it seems, much to my enjoyment.

I don't think it's be mentioned here, but the sleeve's double sided. The artwork inside is the same as the 1 disc DVD artwork. A nice surprise and much preferabe IMO.

I don't think it's be mentioned here, but the sleeve's double sided. The artwork inside is the same as the 1 disc DVD artwork. A nice surprise and much preferabe IMO.

Oooh! Complete with spine title and everything? If so, then I know what I'll be doing as soon as I get a copy.

got it (the BD) and watching it on our equivalent of your Kuro Pro-110fd

plenty of grain (i asssume its not noise) and detail

looks good. Ill see if i can pick the moire

dvdtown says no grain while forum members report plenty of grain.:confused:

There will be grain or no grain ?

Geesh, you just cant get a straight answer can you with HD reviews? Remember the Dracula fiasco? It was split right down the middle with a bunch of film "noir" geeks claiming the softness and color issues were supposed to be there while the other 50% of us thought it looked like sh!t.

I guess.... here we go again.... rent it. ;)

Yep lots of moire. Saw it on the rocks when Eli approach Daniel at the pool of oil.

is this the scene where daniel gives eli the mud facial?

either at 5 metres or 2 feet from the screen i couldnt see any moire at 1080p24 72hz

there is grain cause when i put in the Patton Bd its silky smooth (incredible)

but the grain of the BD of There Will Be Blood is not coarse- it looks like film. Patton looks like it was shot with a panasonic genesis HD camera -thats how perfectly scrubbed they've done it. Yet it still retains lots of detail.

Oooh! Complete with spine title and everything? If so, then I know what I'll be doing as soon as I get a copy.

Uh huh. It's sexy as f*ck and I don't say that about cover art much these days. :D

Patton looks like it was shot with a panasonic genesis HD camera -thats how perfectly scrubbed they've done it. Yet it still retains lots of detail.

My understanding is this "look" is due to the fact that Patton was shot on 65mm film stock.

My understanding is this "look" is due to the fact that Patton was shot on 65mm film stock.

70mm;)

I would take that over Genesis or Viper any day.

i know, its just that the way Fox has presented patton it looks "different" to other large film formats ive seen (eg: My fair lady, Mutiny on the bounty)

back to TWBB- the "Milkshake" scene; no moire in his jumper i can see

I'm glad the cover is reversible. What a great idea. Is that the first time this has been done? And I wonder if it will become common with future blu-ray releases?

I will most likely flip over the cover once my order arrives. Maybe in a week or two I'll flip it back just for a minor refreshment. What fun.

Oooh! Complete with spine title and everything? If so, then I know what I'll be doing as soon as I get a copy.

With the tech info too?:confused: That's something really simple, but it sounds really awesome. Does Clovefield have that too?

Can someone post pics?

So where are the other reviews?

HDDb only lists DVDTown. Has anyone seen any others?

With the tech info too?:confused: That's something really simple, but it sounds really awesome. Does Clovefield have that too?

Can someone post pics?

I was wondering about Cloverfield myself, that artwork is fuggin' ugly with all those stupid quotes. Did the quotes attack New York? Hee, hee!! :D

The only problem with the reversible cover art is that since the case is see through, you'll be able to see the regular front side of the cover, clearly when you open it up, and that might look a bit strange.

I'm sure the only reason they made it like they did, isn't to be reversible, but so that it looks cool from the inside, I might be wrong on that, but I don't think so.

Quite a few Blu Ray covers have information printed on the inside of the cover, just because of this reason.

What I Really Really can't stand, is on the covers that have information printed on the underside, so you can see it when its opened, sometimes have a Security sticker planted right in the middle of the inside that totally screws up the look.

...a gorgeous, grainy movie in theatres, was hoping that this milkshake was to be just as tasty at home... No matter, it's a must own for any serious collection in my opinion, and a film that will only grow in stature with age... Given that this A+ film was only beaten out last year by the A++ No Country, it's a good time to be a film/HD geek. Bring me a worthy SE and I'll even double dip on this bad boy...

That being said, I do feel a bit odd agreeing with the academy, with my two fav films of 2006 and 2007 winning best pic. Still, it's not like I'm a Braveheart or Forrest Gump apologist! :)

Oh S&#$. The cover art really is reversable with tech specs and all. Best BD feature of all time.

Here's another review
http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/?p=950

PQ/AQ 4.5/4

Love the cover actually; love the movie even more. TWBB should've won 'Best Picture' over 'No Country for Old Men'. Not that NCFOM is bad; TWBB is superior IMHO.

I agree. I like NCFOM much, much more after seeing it a few times, but I still think TWBB is the better of the two, and at least, was more Academy-worthy.

of course, I've only seen TWBB once, on the day of release, so who knows if it will stand up as well for me as NCFOM does on multiple viewings. I initially thought it was one of those "Incredible flick that I doubt I can watch again" afterwards, but thinking more and more about it, I really want to sit down and digest it again.

Where are the TWBB reviews? Is it just me or does TWBB feel like a film that Kubrick could have had a hand in? The opening is mostly a silent film, the soundtrack is literally haunting, photography is gorgeous, the violence is violent, and a runtime that most don't appreciate, don't forget the ending either.
I'm glad you mention this. To me, the opening sequence to TWBB looks like an obvious homage to 2001. Not surprising, as Anderson tends to open his films has homages to other great openings

And another review from DVD Active (http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/there-will-be-blood.html). This one says the video is flawless.

Oh S&#$. The cover art really is reversable with tech specs and all. Best BD feature of all time.

Here's another review
http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/?p=950

PQ/AQ 4.5/4
Look at the shot with Daniel Day-Lewis under the clear blue sky, and in the top-left. Is that what the moiré looks like on the disc?

To be honest most of the opening doesn't look too much better than the upconverted dvd. And the night time sky still sometimes looks like it has a little noise. It was like that in theaters too. Maybe the PS3 really is an awesome upsacaler. The mosquito noise is gone, and it no longer looks like a bootleg.

Black levels are solid. The detail is good. But it still looks dingy, I think you used some soft lighting too so that it would have a period feel. It looks worlds better than the DVD. Depth is astoundingly better, very 3D. The transfer is perfect, but for some reason I don't think people will think this is a 'pretty picture'.

The TrueHD on this one sound 6 times better than the DD. With the dvd the opening scene sounded boomy. With the TrueHD is was a nice low end thump that made the room rumble. Also the audio would distort, nothing like that with the TrueHD. Even better you can hear every single instrument in the score.

And the geyser sounds like a freakin waterfall. Awesome.

The only problem with the reversible cover art is that since the case is see through, you'll be able to see the regular front side of the cover, clearly when you open it up, and that might look a bit strange.

I'm sure the only reason they made it like they did, isn't to be reversible, but so that it looks cool from the inside, I might be wrong on that, but I don't think so.

Quite a few Blu Ray covers have information printed on the inside of the cover, just because of this reason.

What I Really Really can't stand, is on the covers that have information printed on the underside, so you can see it when its opened, sometimes have a Security sticker planted right in the middle of the inside that totally screws up the look.

No. You're wrong. ;)

I'm glad you mention this. To me, the opening sequence to TWBB looks like an obvious homage to 2001. Not surprising, as Anderson tends to open his films has homages to other great openings

Dude you quoted the wrong guy. That was mine.;)
It even has the same lighting.

Oh and yeah the other side of the jacket includes tech specs too. Very cool.

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I'm watching it in a bit but I sampled a few scenes and the sampling I did seems to concur with DVD Beaver's review. It looks quite fabulous.

I do like the 2-disc special edition DVD cover the best out of all of them.

Saving it for this weekend! Can't wait... :)

No. You're wrong. ;)

After looking at my copy that I received today, yes, I was definitely wrong.

It is interesting though, that they were aware of the fact that it would look a little weird on the inside, so they included a piece of artwork to hide the inside of the cover.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/ht-software-high-definition/273005-htf-blu-ray-review-there-will-blood.html

Video:
Note: I am watching this title using a Marantz VP 11-S1 DLP projector, which has a native resolution of 1080p. I am using a Sony Playstation 3 Blu-Ray player while a Denon 3808CI does the switching and pass through of the video signal. I am utilizing the HDMI capabilities of each piece of equipment.

There Will Be Blood is mastered in 1080p in the VC-1 codec with an aspect ratio of 2.35:1. The picture has a limited color palate that allows us to focus on the dirty deserts of California contrasted to the pale blue skies. When some of the richer colors of flesh tones or flames come into play, the image really comes alive. Each of the actors faces show all the sweat and grime of the environments very accurately. Anderson shot many scenes towards dusk and twilight capturing some beautiful and colorful images. Black levels, however, are inconsistent. The first fifteen minutes of the picture with Daniel in the well has blacks that come off as dark gray and they make the image look flat. Later in the picture the blacks retain the inkiness of the oil, but when this darkness hits the actors and sets, a lot of detail is lost. Sharpness and detail are good. The image shows much of the graininess of the original 35mm film stock and this only enhances the viewing experience. I noticed a minor amount of edge enhancement, but it does not detract from the picture.

Still, it's not like I'm a Braveheart or Forrest Gump apologist! :)

Wow. two of my all time favs. IMO both are better than NCfOM and TWBB.

http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/there-will-be-blood.html

PQ: 10/10
SQ: 9/10

No dvdactive Video Award ? :confused:

http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/?p=950

PQ: 4.5/5
SQ: 4/5

Video Quality on this release is 1080p in VC-1 on a BD-50 (50 gigabyte Dual-Layered Blu-ray Disc). First off I’d like to state that Paramount was kind enough to provide me with the original DVD release months ago and I am now using it in comparison with this High Definition presentation on Blu-ray. This was filmed using the Panavision Panaflex series of cameras on 35mm film negatives. The transfer to digital (on DVD and in High Definition) obviously comes with some tiny amount of film grain. This is to be expected plus it helps me soon notice this doesn’t seem to have had any DNR (digital noise reduction) filters used on it so it keeps a very crisp clear picture quality. The black level is extreme in it’s solidity, the color palette seems dull at times to help set the visual style and then vibrant at other times, especially the exterior scenes of the oil rigs.

The visual style here seems very unique in it’s own respect thanks to the Cinematography styling of Robert Elswitt, who also won an Academy Award for his work on this film. Visually this in comparison to the DVD presentation looks a whole hell of a lot better as you’d expect but overall I’d have to say it’s an extremely excellent transfer to High Definition that will leave you happy with what you see. There’s so much more detail to be found here in the High Def transfer as you’ll notice from the high resolution screenshots I’ve included. Notice the sweat on Daniel’s forehead, his beard stubble and even the pores in his face. This earns a very respectable “4 1/2 Star Rating” for video quality. If you couldn’t wait (like me) and got the DVD, this is definitely worth getting to replace it due to it’s extreme superiority to the standard definition release.

Just picked up my copy at Best Buy at lunch. Can't wait to pop it in.

My initial complaint (and total tangent), is that I am always pissed when a movie I want comes in those crappy rounded/bubbly version of the blu-ray case. I MUCH prefer the more squared off version of the case like "Gone Baby Gone" and "No Country For Old Men" come in. The squared version just feels tougher and has more weight to it. It feels good in the hand. The rounded type case just makes my purchases feel bloated and cheap.

Rant over.

Somebody call the WHAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE!!

J/K. ;)

I originally purchased the NTSC copy back in April and was not impressed. There was so much noise in the dark scenes it was distracting completely different from my theater experience 2 months earlier. Of course NSTC copies are meant to be seen on NTSC monitors not HDTVs so I had high hopes for the Blu Ray version.

I am not disappointed in the least bit. Its beautiful. Pretty darn close to what I saw in the theater (Arclight Hollywood). The increased depth, detail and natural grain was awesome, completely different from the digital noise experience from my first copy. I really like the color palette of this film; very natural but also very vintage early 20th century in terms of "the look." Plus to understand that this was all achieved with the choice of film stock and lighting, NOT digital grading is even more impressive. Robert Elswit is my hero.:D

Hiya paul. I noticed moire on the SD dvd last night on a rooftop in one shot. Very surprised it's there in the BD.


:(

Why would you be surprised? You're always going to see moire when there is regular repeating pattern that exceed spatial frequency of digital picture. Just because BD is 1080p isn't going to eliminate moire with certain texture or fabric.

Because there have been many titles on SD that showed moire patterns and on HD did not. I haven't yet seen a moire pattern on any BD I've watched. That's why I was surprised.

Just picked up my copy at Best Buy at lunch. Can't wait to pop it in.

make sure you hang on to your receipt so you can get the price match when it goes on sale for $24.99 at target this sunday. i bought it at bb tonight also, so i should end up paying $22.50 for it after price matching.

Good movie, but like No Country for Old Men, it was pretty much about nothing. Nothing happened, nothing advanced, nothing was concluded.

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/there-will-be-blood4.html

The U.K cover arts looks cool.

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/there-will-be-blood4.html

The U.K cover arts looks cool.

I like that much better than either of the US covers.

"I drink your milkshake!"

Courtesy: Patsfan123

Dolby TrueHD (lossless compression) 24-bit/48kHz
Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ----------------- ---------------------
There Will Be Blood VC-1 2:38:25 40,161,970,176 48,617,189,620 33.80 26.07 Dolby TrueHD 5.1 4758Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps

Interesting find and quotes - Patsfan and benes


Interesting.. The time stamp on the main video file is dated 3/19/2008 but there are files with timestamps of 2/29/08... Most of the files are dated 4/2/2008 so thats when it must have been authored. When did Toshiba announce the folding of HD DVD? Found it (2/19/2008) It seems like they started working on this around the that time, or maybe even earlier.

Well they wouldn't have had to wait until the official announcement. HDDVD was effectively dead with Warner's announcement on 1/4. Amazingly this movie did not even have its wide theatrical release yet at that point. And this was an important film for them so not surprising they got working on it as soon as they could.

Thanks for the info. Good thing Paul Thomas Anderson didn't have a lot of material for extras. Since Paramount got there money's worth out of that 50gigs of space.:)

Maybe that time stamp was there, because they knew there was no way in hell they could press a decent HD-DVD with that tiny space.:rolleyes:

I watched this tonight in full and have more comments. Everything on that disc was in VC-1 and optimized for blu-ray. The extras are all in VC-1 1080p had pretty high bitrates, and even the Paramount logo was redone in VC-1 with 30+Mbps. All of the blu-ray discs prior had an MPEG-2 logo, even Next and Face/Off. It seems like they have completely started over in philosophy and in their work. I'M FINISHED...

Received TWBB today. My string of woes with my recent BD purchase seem to continue.

1) First Blood - Terrible PQ

2) Rambo IV - Average PQ due to heavy post processing by LGF. I was expecting the PQ to shine like the HD trailer but didn't.

3) Face/Off - Viewing experience spoiled by excessive DNR. The import version is visually better by miles.

4) Black Rain - Decent PQ but way too dark. Sometimes you get a feeling why this type of bad cinematography needs to be viewed in High Definition. Looks like Ridley Scott fell asleep while filming.

5) There Will Be Blood - This time I am not talking about the PQ but the menu presentation. The entire movie is divided into just 8 chapters and there are no facilities to even bookmark the scenes. I hope that Disney who owns the overseas distribution rights offers a better Blu-ray presentation.

Received TWBB today. My string of woes with my recent BD purchase seem to continue.

5) There Will Be Blood - This time I am not talking about the PQ but the menu presentation. The entire movie is divided into just 8 chapters and there are no facilities to even bookmark the scenes. I hope that Disney who owns the overseas distribution rights offers a better Blu-ray presentation.

Trust me. This is PTA's (Paul Thomas Anderson, the director) decision. He doesn't like his films to have a lot of chapter stops (I'm surprised he didn't pull a David Lynch and have the entire film in one chapter).....PTA has total control over menu design (he hates moving, flashy menus), chapters, inserts, etc..

Trust me. This is PTA's (Paul Thomas Anderson, the director) decision. He doesn't like his films to have a lot of chapter stops (I'm surprised he didn't pull a David Lynch and have the entire film in one chapter).....PTA has total control over menu design (he hates moving, flashy menus), chapters, inserts, etc..

Exactly. The chapter decision is 100% PTA.

Received TWBB today. My string of woes with my recent BD purchase seem to continue.

1) First Blood - Terrible PQ

2) Rambo IV - Average PQ due to heavy post processing by LGF. I was expecting the PQ to shine like the HD trailer but didn't.

3) Face/Off - Viewing experience spoiled by excessive DNR. The import version is visually better by miles.

4) Black Rain - Decent PQ but way too dark. Sometimes you get a feeling why this type of bad cinematography needs to be viewed in High Definition. Looks like Ridley Scott fell asleep while filming.

5) There Will Be Blood - This time I am not talking about the PQ but the menu presentation. The entire movie is divided into just 8 chapters and there are no facilities to even bookmark the scenes. I hope that Disney who owns the overseas distribution rights offers a better Blu-ray presentation.
http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/user_images/pics/1/1919000/ngbbs405270249a5c2.jpg ;):p

Shouldn't that be the WhaaamBulence?

Exactly. The chapter decision is 100% PTA.

Ok fellas. Got it. Didn't know it was PTA's decision.:o

However Paramount could have featured bookmarking facility considering the lengthy running time of the feature film.:(

Received TWBB today. My string of woes with my recent BD purchase seem to continue.

1) First Blood - Terrible PQ
For when it was made and the condition it was in, I was actually rather impressed by First Blood.

For when it was made and the condition it was in, I was actually rather impressed by First Blood.

Perfect representation of the film that was used back then. I guess people expect todays image quality in older films.

I take back my comments on Rambo IV. Due to a strange HDMI handshake issue the video resolution on my PS3 got reset to 480p while viewing Rambo IV. Anyways the PQ still falls short of being a demo material in comparison to the eye candy HD trailer.

Thanks for the info. Good thing Paul Thomas Anderson didn't have a lot of material for extras. Since Paramount got there money's worth out of that 50gigs of space.:)

Maybe that time stamp was there, because they knew there was no way in hell they could press a decent HD-DVD with that tiny space.:rolleyes:

Theres Lies, Damned lies, and just plain FUD. That is is FUD. Why people still need to take potshots at the format that forced BD to become as complete as it is.

More then likely they like I am guessing everybody has been doing is taking the extras and calculating the movie space needed after. Their was nothing special about the movie that meant it couldn't fit on a 30GB disc. Just because you have the ability to get 30Mb/s doesn't mean that its either needed or should be used. All it really means is a bunch of lazy compressionists.

Theres Lies, Damned lies, and just plain FUD. That is is FUD. Why people still need to take potshots at the format that forced BD to become as complete as it is.


Whoa, bro. Everyone has been so damn sensitive on these boards lately. There needs to be a joke emote. Didn't you notice the :rolleyes:?

BTW - It was a shot at PTA for extras, but when the film this amazing I don't care.

Whoa, bro. Everyone has been so damn sensitive on these boards lately. There needs to be a joke emote. Didn't you notice the :rolleyes:?

BTW - It was a shot at PTA for extras, but when the film this amazing I don't care.

I thought it was a rolleyes at thought that 30GB was enough. Sorry I have been trying not to get bugged by by these types of comments, but with all of the HD-DVD converts coming in you would think that the BD people could just shake hands and call it good, I mean they where the ones who made the right pick. That said I could understand some I told you so's but there have been quite a lot of underhanded lies as well. I mean its not like HD-DVD in comparison was anything like Divx.

Perfect representation of the film that was used back then. I guess people expect todays image quality in older films.

When you take a look at some well done older films it makes you realize that great image are possible without regard to age.

Examples include Bonnie & Clyde and A Clockwork Orange. The presentation of both these films in HD (HD/Net or Blu Ray/HDDVD) is better than most people viewed when the films were in theatrical release.

You need a good source to start with, but the care in the preparation of the master can't be discounted in producing a good looking product.


Old doesn't mean bad, just as new doesn't mean a good image.

Received TWBB today. My string of woes with my recent BD purchase seem to continue.

1) First Blood - Terrible PQ

2) Rambo IV - Average PQ due to heavy post processing by LGF. I was expecting the PQ to shine like the HD trailer but didn't.

3) Face/Off - Viewing experience spoiled by excessive DNR. The import version is visually better by miles.

4) Black Rain - Decent PQ but way too dark. Sometimes you get a feeling why this type of bad cinematography needs to be viewed in High Definition. Looks like Ridley Scott fell asleep while filming.

5) There Will Be Blood - This time I am not talking about the PQ but the menu presentation. The entire movie is divided into just 8 chapters and there are no facilities to even bookmark the scenes. I hope that Disney who owns the overseas distribution rights offers a better Blu-ray presentation.

I thought 1 and 2 looked pretty darn good on my 92 in. screen, with the understanding that First Blood is over 25 years old. The new Rambo film looked pretty impressive, with all the foliage and fast shutter cinematography, everything really held together nicely.

Haven't seen 3, but I do read it's been DNR'd pretty severely. Shame.

I have 4 on HD-DVD, and the dark image is part of the look by Scott and the great Jan De Bont. I did not find it too dark, but my projector is calibrated and I am watching in a darkened home theater.

#5 has already been addressed, but my $.02 is that I did see this in the theater and I swear it looked like upscaled DVD. The "new" print looked *terrible*. I couldn't believe it. The Blu-ray is a revelation. It makes me sad to know that, for the most part, nothing compells me now to see a film in the theater. It's just too damn depressing.

Good to see that this "There Will Be Blood" review thread has turned into a Rambo series review thread.

doh!

There will be RAMBO!

;)

This is one of those flicks that I 'liked' theatrically, but wasn't sure it would be a keeper. Watched the BR and now my 'like' has immediately turned into a passionate love. Classic freakin' flick. Great BR to boot.

Just watched it via NetFlix. Great movie. PQ looked real good at times and average at others.

Just watched it via NetFlix. Great movie. PQ looked real good at times and average at others.

It seemed like PQ was better on the second half of the movie, after the gusher. The PQ prior had good and bad but seemed to be better on average after that. The scenes shot where Plainview and his imposter brother were going from location to location with the markers were stunning.

Nice pq but I was suprised that there was a bit if edge enhancement.

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LPCM 16-bit - English / Japanese

Region B - Cover Art

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Since the other thread was locked ,it left no way to post. I watched this yesterday. This movie is extremely well acted and powerful. No matter how you cut it it is a strange movie. It is so engrossing yet kinda left a strange unfinished feeling for me. The transfer is top notch , although I saw some very very minor ringing in as few scenes. The blacks were scary good with just beautiful cinematography around campfires ,close facial expressions ,horseback rides through beautiful country and digging in mines etc.

I'd recommend this film but one needs to be in a certain mood I think.

Art

Since the other thread was locked ,it left no way to post. I watched this yesterday. This movie is extremely well acted and powerful. No matter how you cut it it is a strange movie. It is so engrossing yet kinda left a strange unfinished feeling for me. The transfer is top notch , although I saw some very very minor ringing in as few scenes. The blacks were scary good with just beautiful cinematography around campfires ,close facial expressions ,horseback rides through beautiful country and digging in mines etc.

I'd recommend this film but one needs to be in a certain mood I think.

Art

For me, personally, it left anything but an unfinished feeling, I thought it wrapped up nicely and completely...come to think of it, unfinished??? What is the very last word spoken at the end of the movie?!?!?!?!?

I agree, though that this definitely isn't for everyone, if only everyone like movies like this I would actually go to theaters in the summer!

I love the movie, but I thought the HD transfer left something to be desired. Probably because they didn't use a digital intermediate master.

The BD beats the hell out of the DVD and the version I saw from the traditional projector in theaters.

One of my all time favorites - everything is superb. And it has one hell of a score.:)

And I didn't think the movie felt unfinished, if anything the ending feels abrupt. But it's probably the perfect ending for the movie, after the final line I smiled when the credits started to roll.

For me, personally, it left anything but an unfinished feeling, I thought it wrapped up nicely and completely...come to think of it, unfinished??? What is the very last word spoken at the end of the movie?!?!?!?!?



It just seemed like the beating with the bowling pin was more than needed and he was happy despite the fact that he had murdered another guy this time with a witness. I wish he had just made him say he was a false prophet (maybe on his knees) and then take it from there.

Just my take.:)

Love this movie, I view it as a delicious black comedy. Daniel Day-Lewis plays it frighteningly real and he's an absolutely gas because of it. Very few movies would dare portray such a realistic and unsympathetic,(though as I say, I related to him greatly), view of a single man.

Art, I can see your point, but we are talking about Paul Thomas Anderson here... :)

I absolutely love this movie.

Between this and Bill the Butcher in Gangs o New York, I'm a huge fan of Mr. Day Lewis. what a range this guy has!


"BASTARD IN A BASKET!!"

Art, I can see your point, but we are talking about Paul Thomas Anderson here... :)

I absolutely love this movie.

Between this and Bill the Butcher in Gangs o New York, I'm a huge fan of Mr. Day Lewis. what a range this guy has!


"BASTARD IN A BASKET!!"

Don't get me wrong, I liked the film. It was just different. I could be hard pressed to show this to a room of adult friends since it is different enough that I'd bet it would either not appeal to most of the people I know or even offend some.

Art

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LPCM 16-bit - English / Japanese

Region B - Cover Art

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lgans have you seen/read any viewer impressions or reviews of the Japanese release? Thanks.

Love this movie, I view it as a delicious black comedy. Daniel Day-Lewis plays it frighteningly real and he's an absolutely gas because of it. Very few movies would dare portray such a realistic and unsympathetic,(though as I say, I related to him greatly), view of a single man.

+1 loved it.

I'd recommend this film but one needs to be in a certain mood I think.

Art

My wife was creeped out by this movie like she was with No Country for Old Men (or all other extremely violent movies). Even the music sound tracks were eerie. It definetely leaves you in a certain mood after watching it.

Anybody watch the special 'vintage' feature?

Is it alone interesting?

Anybody watch the special 'vintage' feature?

Is it alone interesting?I thought it was pretty interesting, but I didn't know jack about oil drilling so it was educational.

Don't get me wrong, I liked the film. It was just different. I could be hard pressed to show this to a room of adult friends since it is different enough that I'd bet it would either not appeal to most of the people I know or even offend some.

Art


yeah I hear that. :)

I drink your milkshake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDVzmbtVZ6s).

There Will Be Blood in my collection = There Will Be Boredom.

easily my favorite major studio release in several years.

This will be one of those films that's studied for years to come, and it's one of the ew that I can watch over, and over, and over again.

Love the BD, love this flick.

I just watched this again yesterday, and man, what a great movie! And he was certainly channeling Kubrick through a lot of it. And that's not a bad thing. Though I can certainly see how this film isn't for everyone.

There Will Be Blood in my collection = There Will Be Boredom.

I didn't think the film was necessarily boring, in fact I thought it was a fairly engaging story, but it is still a one time viewing for me.