fensony
05-06-08, 06:20 PM
SOME TIME AGO I SAW A THREAD OF A GUY WITH A SONY CRT AND A XBOX 360. HE SAID THAT HIS GAMES DONT LOOK LIKE THEY DO IN OTHER PEOPLE HDTVS (PLASMAS). I SAW OTHER THREADS OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT TO MUCH OVERSCAN IN THIS SETS. I HAVE A SONY KV-30HS420 AND MY HD DVDS AND GAMES LOOKS BEAUTIFUL IN IT AND IS BECAUSE ONE THING :THE SONY SERVICE CODES THREAD .FIRST READ THE INTRODUCTION OF THE THREAD AND ABOUT THE DANGERS OF MAKING CHANGES IN THE SERVICE CODES . ONLY WHEN YOU FEEL THAT YOU KNOW WHAT ARE YOU DOING BEGGIN TO MAKE CHANGES AND REMEMBER ALWAYS WRITTE THE ORIGINAL SETTINGS BEFORE MAKE A CHANGE.THE FIRST THING TOU WANT TO DO IS TO DISSABLE BLK IN THE 2170P-4 MENU ( A 0 VALUE) FOR ALL PICTURE MODES, IS AN ARTIFICIAL BLACK ENHANCEMENT THAT CRUSH BLACKS AND RUINS CALIBRATION. ADJUST IN 2170P-1 SBRT TO 27. FOCUS THE SET,THEN FIX OVERSCAN LIKE IS SHOW IN THE THREAD. ADJUST GEOMETRY AND CONVERGENCE. IF YOU WANT, CHANGE GAMMA IN PRO PICTURE MODE LIKE KENTECH DO IN MOVIE MODE.IN 2170P-4 ADJUST RYR RYB GYR AND GYB TO 13,15,0,4(THIS COULD BE DIFFERENT IN YOUR SET). IN THE USER MENU ADJUST VM TO MEDIUM IN VIVID, LOW IN STANDAR AND OFF IN MOVIE AND PRO.LOW PICTURE IN VIVID LIKE IS IN PRO THEN RISE PICTURE IN PRO TO THE SAME LEVEL IS IN MOVIE AND ALWAYS USE WARM IN ALL PICTURE SETTINGS .LASTLY ADJUST BRIGHTNES TO YOUR LIKENESS WITH DVE. IN THE 360 SIDE, WITH COMPONENT, USE 1080i EXPANDED SETTING AND WITH HDMI 1080i STANDAR.I USE VIVID PICTURE MODE FOR GAMING IN THE DAY , STANDAR IN THE EVENING AND PRO IN THE NIGHT FOR GAMING AND MOVIES(HDDVD AND DVD).IT TOOK ME ALMOST TWO YEARS OF TRIAL AND ERROR TO FULLY CALIBRATE MY SET BUT THE RESULTS WORTH ALL THE EFFORTS:D
dreadfulwater
05-16-08, 10:23 AM
I also have the same tv and a xbox360 as well. I followed some of your suggestions for my set, the BLK setting, the SBRT, which raised the tv out of overall darkness so now i get better results with the contrast and brightness settings, and dont have to crank them all the way up.
I also changed RYR RYB GYR AND GYB to the values you suggested, and it was a very noticeable improvement, especially in tha game oblivion, which has a very lush environment, and now the colors are more natural and seem to pop more. I have the DVE disk, but I havent gotten around to doing that calibration yet. just eying up the picture seems to give me satisfactory results, and I dont seem to have any geometry or overscan issues with my set.
I leave my set on the movie setting, and made all adjsutments in that mode. everything seems pleasing to the eye now. Thanks for the research!
fensony
05-17-08, 09:49 AM
YOUR WELCOME DREADFULMATER. IT SEEMS THAT THIS SETS HAVE TONS OF ARTIFICIAL ENHANCEMENTS TO COMPETE WITH THE ARTIFICIAL LOOKING LCDS AT THE STORE. THE FIRST TIME I PLAY A GAME IN IT I THOUGHT SOMETING WAS WRONG AND EXCHANGED. THE THIRD TIME I LIFT THE 150 POUNDS MONSTER TO THE FURNITURE I DECIDED TO TRY SOMETHING ELSE AND MY INTERNET SEARCH BEGGAN. THE MAIN OFFENDER IN THIS TVS LIKE YOU SAID ARE THE BLACK LEVELS. WHAT BLK SETTING DO IS CRUSH SHADOW DETAIL TO GIVE MORE POP TO THE PICTURE(SOMETHING THESE SETS DONT NEED), WHEN YOU TRY TO CALIBRATE THE TV YOU HAVE TO RISE BLACK LEVEL ALL THE WAY UP AND STILL YOU LOOSE SHADOW DETAIL. WITH BLK OFF THE RAISE FROM BLACK TO WHITE IS PERFECT.SBRT IS SIMPLY AN INTERNAL BRIGHTNES SLIDER. NOW THAT YOU CHANGE RYR,RYB,GYR AND GYB YOU WILL HAVE MORE NATURAL LOOKING FACES (NOT THE SUNBURNED LOOK).OTHER PROBLEM MY SET HAD WAS FOCUS. THE PROBLEM WAS SO LARGE THAT I HAD FIRST TO OPEN THE TV AND ADJUST THE INTERNAL FOCUS KNOB, SINCE THEN I DONT NEED VM TO BRING OUT DETAIL.MY OVERSCAN WAS 6% IN SD, 9.5% IN HD, NOW IS 2.5% IN SD AND 3.5% IN HD. LIKE I SAID , THIS SETS HAVE ISSUES IN FACTORY MODE BUT WHEN YOU CORRECTED THE RESULTS ARE AMAZING . I HAVE RELATIVES WITH OTHERS TYPES OF DISPLAYS FULLY CALIBRATED(ONE RP , 2 LCD , ONE PLASMA) AND THEY DONT UNDERSTAND HOW AN OLD FASHION CRT LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THEIRS:eek:.