I'm looking at getting a new projector and am leaning towards the SONY VPL-VW60. After reading it's review on projectorreviews.com I noticed it has 1.3 support but does NOT support deep color. Am I right in thinking this is probably not a big deal at all since we probably won't see any content using it for a long time still?

It is irrelevant.

totally not a big deal.

The only sources with deep color support at this time are some HD camcorders. Either way, pretty much a non factor at this time.

Yep, HDMI 1.3 has theoretical Deep Colour support.

But there is no media providing current support, no indication of future support, and no real explanation why support might be a good thing.

In spite of this, the VW60 is actually somewhat ready for this chimera.

I seem to recall that's why it has the Wide color mode.

Even if you already have content that uses DeepColor, a DeepColor display does not necessarily offer much benefit over a non-DeepColor display. For example, a DeepColor display might only support 12-bit 4:4:4 RGB (the minimum requirement for DeepColor), and a non-DeepColor display might support 12-bit 4:2:2 YCbCr. In this case, the main difference is that 4:4:4 allows twice the horizontal chroma resolution of 4:2:2, which is probably not noticeable when viewing native 1080p content.

The only sources with deep color support at this time are some HD camcorders.
I seem to recall that's why it has the Wide color mode.
You are probably thinking of xvYCC, which allows larger color gamuts. DeepColor allows more than 24 bits per pixel.

HDMI 1.3 can support xvYCC and DeepColor, but they are two totally different things.

You are probably thinking of xvYCC, which allows larger color gamuts. DeepColor allows more than 24 bits per pixel.

HDMI 1.3 can support xvYCC and DeepColor, but they are two totally different things.

ahh... yup-- whoops, my bad...

I'm looking at getting a new projector and am leaning towards the SONY VPL-VW60. After reading it's review on projectorreviews.com I noticed it has 1.3 support but does NOT support deep color. Am I right in thinking this is probably not a big deal at all since we probably won't see any content using it for a long time still?

The only thing that might be important to you is being able to hook up a future high-end video processor with deep color support. The greater bit depth theoretically allows beter processing by allowing finer color gradients.

The only thing that might be important to you is being able to hook up a future high-end video processor with deep color support. The greater bit depth theoretically allows beter processing by allowing finer color gradients.

I don't know of any of those coming soon and the OP asked if this was a huge factor so I would rule that out for now. On the other hand, I would be happy to know of any upcoming VPs that support this.

The only thing that might be important to you is being able to hook up a future high-end video processor with deep color support. The greater bit depth theoretically allows beter processing by allowing finer color gradients.
HDMI already allowed finer color gradients before DeepColor, by using 12-bit 4:2:2 YCbCr. However, current VPs don't take advantage of all 12 bits. They use the high-order 8 bits, but the low-order 4 bits are just padded with zeros. So what matters is not so much whether a VP supports DeepColor, but whether a VP takes advantage of all the bits that are available.

This sort of reminds me of the HDCP discussions we had a few years back. When HDCP was first announced there were only a few projectors (like the NEC HT1000) that were HDCP compatible. The general forum wisdom was that implementation was a long way off (if ever) and having that feature was of no advantage. A few years latter some Sanyo PLV70 owners were scrambling to find a suitable workaround for their DVI-D input. The general wisdom may be right, but wouldn't it be cool if it's wrong. :cool:

Thanks for the great responses guys, it pretty much confirms what I suspected. Heck, by the time something comes out that has deep color enabled I will be ready for another projector upgrade! I will be upgrading form a Panasonic Pt-ae1000u, so do you think the sony vpl vw60 will be a significant improvement? I don't care too much for the LCD's but I know the sony is a LCOS version with a sealed lightpath for preventing dust blobs. I'm hoping it will be provide a much sharper pic as well. I think the smoothscreen technology on the panny's softens the pic. I narrowed it down to the Black Pearl and the RS1 &2, but for much cheaper I can get the Pearl which should be way better than my panny.

I think the VW60 would be a significant improvement.

As for the HDCP thing. At least for that you could get a HDCP stripper thing and your were good to go. I don't think we will see any of the deep color stuff implemented for a long time.

Allright, I ordered the VW60 and it's on the way! Now if they announce Blu-Ray deep color soon I'll be PISSED. :cool:

As for the HDCP thing. At least for that you could get a HDCP stripper thing and your were good to go.

I went to Best Buy and asked for a HDCP stripper and they told me to go talk to this lady :eek:

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/508/BestBuyPole.jpg

I went to Best Buy and asked for a HDCP stripper and they told me to go talk to this lady :eek:

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/508/BestBuyPole.jpg

Dude! That is the same model that I am using! It works pretty good. :D