I wanna know about BH200's problem..

I heard about returning of BH200 thease days.

What is the problem of BH200?? I couldn't decide whether perchuse or not the BH200.

AFAIK the three "consistent" problems many users have reported are:

1. Audio and Video Drop outs - The problem seems to affect as many users as it doesn't though.
2. 4:3 SD DVDs are stretched to fit a 16:9 shape - This affects other Players too and there are a couple of workarounds.
3. 5.1 Audio being sent out as 7.1: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1026027

I think that's it, anyone else?

I think bradavon's list just about covers it. And, all in all, those things he listed are not that big of a deal. I'm one of those people who've had only a few audio/video drops and they are quite rare. Since LG released the April firmware, it has been a very stable and capable machine.

I haven't heard anything about a lot of people taking their BH200's back recently? Could you provide a few more details?

-C.

This is completely unscientific but the number of users reporting "disc problems" with the April firmware is much lower than with the March firmware. I cannot speak about the November or January firmware as the thread wasn't being maintained then.

Agreed. If anything, I'd say a lot less people are returning their BH200's these days!

This is completely unscientific but the number of users reporting "disc problems" with the April firmware is much lower than with the March firmware. I cannot speak about the November or January firmware as the thread wasn't being maintained then.

Agreed. If anything, I'd say a lot less people are returning their BH200's these days!

+1.
I am one of the fortunet that, knock on wood,has had no problems yet with my BH200.:D
This is my first Blu ray capable player,having owned/still own Toshiba HD-A2,A3,XA1,XA2 players.
And I have to say I really like this player MUCH better than any other player I own.
OK I LOVE The BH200:D:D
I wish I would have held out and this would have been the first and only player I purchased.
Sure would have saved a wad of cash,but as they say hind site is 20/20:rolleyes:

Best player I have, I own the PS3 and Sammy 5000 this one does it all from bitstreaming all codecs, 1.1 profile, and with hacks can play all region dvd and Blu-ray pal with proper TV, I have had no problems with any discs I fed it including Blu-ray, HD-DVD or dvds

Best player I have, I own the PS3 and Sammy 5000 this one does it all from bitstreaming all codecs, 1.1 profile, and with hacks can play all region dvd and Blu-ray pal with proper TV, I have had no problems with any discs I fed it including Blu-ray, HD-DVD or dvds

+1!

Don't wait. Just buy it. You will not be disappointed.

+1!

Don't wait. Just buy it. You will not be disappointed.


I bought the BD-UP5000 last week, but have been very dissapointed with its audio outputting capabilities. Can't get any of the Dolby True HD stuff to work on any of my HD DVDs and none of the DTS-HD / MA stuff either.

Asides from the occasional drop out, the BH200 does all the HD audio codecs properly via PCM or bitstream only?

I bought the BD-UP5000 last week, but have been very dissapointed with its audio outputting capabilities. Can't get any of the Dolby True HD stuff to work on any of my HD DVDs and none of the DTS-HD / MA stuff either.

Asides from the occasional drop out, the BH200 does all the HD audio codecs properly via HDMI right?

Yes, it won't internally decode DTS-HD MA or DTS-HD HR. However, it will bitstream them to an AVR/pre-pro capable of doing the decoding.

I bought the BD-UP5000 last week, but have been very dissapointed with its audio outputting capabilities. Can't get any of the Dolby True HD stuff to work on any of my HD DVDs and none of the DTS-HD / MA stuff either.

Asides from the occasional drop out, the BH200 does all the HD audio codecs properly via HDMI right?

Yes, the BH200 is fully capable of at least bitstreaming all the HD codecs and decodes Dolby TrueHD and DD+ to LPCM and extracts the DTS core from DTS HD formats.

As for the 5000 the firmware update is rumoured to be close so you could hold on to it and see how it performs with the update. IF the 5000 is able to internally decode the DTS HD formats it would be the better buy but that remains to be seen and is unlikely but may be implemented due to its 7.1 analog outputs. I would also go with the LG on the basis of support, Samsung seems to be have a history of promising updates and delaying them.

Yes, the BH200 is fully capable of at least bitstreaming all the HD codecs and decodes Dolby TrueHD and DD+ to LPCM and extracts the DTS core from DTS HD formats.

As for the 5000 the firmware update is rumoured to be close so you could hold on to it and see how it performs with the update. IF the 5000 is able to internally decode the DTS HD formats it would be the better buy but that remains to be seen and is unlikely but may be implemented due to its 7.1 analog outputs. I would also go with the LG on the basis of support, Samsung seems to be have a history of promising updates and delaying them.

Well I only bought my BD-UP5000 last Friday and I have 30 days to return it. But like I was using the HD DVD add on for a while and wasn't getting any HD audio output because the 360 can't handle any of it. While my PS3 was outputting all the audio formats to my Onkyo 805.

If the BH200 can output all the HD codecs with no hiccups via PCM or Bitstream which is more than my BD-UP5000 can do now I'll return it and make the switch.

I want 1080p video and HD audio via HDMI in a single player in particular the 7.1 tracks seeing I have a 7.1 Onkyo setup to go with my TX-SR805. One of these two machines should be able to offer that.

Well I only bought my BD-UP5000 last Friday and I have 30 days to return it. But like I was using the HD DVD add on for a while and wasn't getting any HD audio output because the 360 can't handle any of it. While my PS3 was outputting all the audio formats to my Onkyo 805.

If the BH200 can output all the HD codecs with no hiccups via PCM or Bitstream which is more than my BD-UP5000 can do now I'll return it and make the switch.

I want 1080p video and HD audio via HDMI in a single player in particular the 7.1 tracks seeing I have a 7.1 Onkyo setup to go with my TX-SR805. One of these two machines should be able to offer that.

The LG definitely offers that at the moment.

If the BH200 can output all the HD codecs with no hiccups via PCM or Bitstream which is more than my BD-UP5000 can do now I'll return it and make the switch.

Yup, it can do! If that's the most important issue to you, then the LG should be your machine.

-C.

Yup, it can do! If that's the most important issue to you, then the LG should be your machine.

-C.

Well I'm going to compare it tonight, i'll go pickup the BH200 on sale for 399.99 same price I got the BD-UP5000 for and check it out.

Well I'm going to compare it tonight, i'll go pickup the BH200 on sale for 399.99 same price I got the BD-UP5000 for and check it out.

Just don't forget to upgrade to the latest April firmware and driver version 702. To get the full functionality of everything discussed in this thread, you'll need to do that.

Hope you enjoy the LG as much as many of us have!

-C.

As well as make it SD DVD Multiregion and enable PAL (if your TV supports PAL). There's no harm making it SD DVD Multiregion though.

Just don't forget to upgrade to the latest April firmware and driver version 702. To get the full functionality of everything discussed in this thread, you'll need to do that.

Hope you enjoy the LG as much as many of us have!

-C.

Installing update now, this is petty sexy actually. Surprised its smaller than the Samsung too.

DTS-HD/MA 5.1 check
DTS-HD/MA 7.1 check

Multichannel PCM check
Multichannel Dolby True HD check
Multichannel Dolby Digital Plus check

**** this player is ****ing awesome. Played everything perfectly, switched from Blu Ray to HD DVDs every type of audio format.

Only problem I encountered was this helicopter static type of sound which I believe you guys have mentioned. During Transformers during a Dolby Digital Plus soundtrack matrixed in 7.1, any fixes?

Other than that I'm sold!! BD-UP5000 going back ASAP.

thanks guys :)

The current workaround is to not Bitstream DD Plus but let the BH200 on-board decode it (PCM Multi-Ch). Not deal as you have to swtich settings, then put them back again but at least it works.

AFAIK it's a DD Plus bug on the LG BH200.

This player is ****ing awesome. Played everything perfectly, switched from Blu Ray to HD DVDs every type of audio format.

Only problem I encountered was this helicopter static type of sound which I believe you guys have mentioned. During Transformers during a Dolby Digital Plus soundtrack matrixed in 7.1, any fixes?

Glad to hear everything is working so well for you! I have to admit that I pretty much totally agree with you, too. I've enjoyed my BH200 very much. It's handled most every type of disk I've thrown at it without a glitch. Physically speaking I think it's a pretty svelte looking machine; the touch sensitive buttons and onscreen menus look and work great. It feels very solid and well built. Operationally speaking, I've found it to be quiet and with load times faster than any other HD player except the PS3. Oh, yeah! And it easily handles all those HD audio codecs, too.

The only issue I've had is the occasional video dropout. Just curious ... what kind of receiver are you using when experiencing the DD+ issue?

The current workaround is to not Bitstream DD Plus but let the BH200 on-board decode it (PCM Multi-Ch). Not deal as you have to swtich settings, then put them back again but at least it works.

Agreed. While we're all pretty sure this is a BH200 bug that will be fixed with a future firmware update, it might not be. The quickest, easiest solution for now is, as Brad explained, to just switch from Primary Pass-Thru to Multi-Chan PCM so that the DD+ is internally decoded instead of being sent via bitstream. For more info, you might want to check out this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1031635) or the bug tracking thread here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1027202).

Hope you continue to enjoy your new BH200!

-C.

Glad to hear everything is working so well for you! I have to admit that I pretty much totally agree with you, too. I've enjoyed my BH200 very much. It's handled most every type of disk I've thrown at it without a glitch. Physically speaking I think it's a pretty svelte looking machine; the touch sensitive buttons and onscreen menus look and work great. It feels very solid and well built. Operationally speaking, I've found it to be quiet and with load times faster than any other HD player except the PS3. Oh, yeah! And it easily handles all those HD audio codecs, too.

The only issue I've had is the occasional video dropout. Just curious ... what kind of receiver are you using when experiencing the DD+ issue?



Agreed. While we're all pretty sure this is a BH200 bug that will be fixed with a future firmware update, it might not be. The quickest, easiest solution for now is, as Brad explained, to just switch from Primary Pass-Thru to Multi-Chan PCM so that the DD+ is internally decoded instead of being sent via bitstream. For more info, you might want to check out this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1031635) or the bug tracking thread here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1027202).

Hope you continue to enjoy your new BH200!

-C.


Onkyo TX-SR805, I'll probably set everything back to on board LPCM encoding, I bitstreamed just to see if the damn DTS HD / TrueHD / DD+ on the 805 front panel light up.

I can't get over how good these HD DVDs sound in Dolby True HD, didn't realize what I was missing when I had my 360 HD DVD player only.

Setting it to PCM Multi-Ch will mean DTS-HD HR and DTS-HD MA are not picked up and you'll only get the 1.5Mbps DTS Core, just as long as you know that.

Otherwise it's down to personal preference if you prefer on-board or bitstream IMO. You could leave it on PCM Multi-Ch and change it to Primary Pass-Thru for DTS-HD discs of course.

Otherwise it's down to personal preference if you prefer on-board or bitstream IMO. You could leave it on PCM Multi-Ch and change it to Primary Pass-Thru for DTS-HD discs of course.

Provided of course that the receiver's DTS-HD MA Bitstream Bomb has been addressed. If not...better to leave the decoding to the BH200 (it would be Core Only, but no bitstream bomb).

All these clauses and exceptions are getting difficult to keep track of. ;)

Provided of course that the receiver's DTS-HD MA Bitstream Bomb has been addressed. If not...better to leave the decoding to the BH200 (it would be Core Only, but no bitstream bomb).

All these clauses and exceptions are getting difficult to keep track of. ;)

You're telling me.

You're telling me.

It's actually not that crazy with DTS Bomb - don't buy AVR built on TI's chip or if you do make sure mfr have released their fix in a firmware update.

Have any manufacture not released a firmware fix? That need it. Thanks.

About this audio problem... I just picked up a BH200. I have not hooked it up yet but I have a older receiver, a Yamaha RX-V1400. Since it has no HDMI inputs I will use the optical connection for the sound. How do I set the BH200 up with regards to getting the best possible sound from my system? Thanks.

Pat

About this audio problem... I just picked up a BH200. I have not hooked it up yet but I have a older receiver, a Yamaha RX-V1400. Since it has no HDMI inputs I will use the optical connection for the sound. How do I set the BH200 up with regards to getting the best possible sound from my system? Thanks.

Pat

Re-encode to DTS and please ask questions in the owner's thread. This is for genuine issues.

Re-encode to DTS and please ask questions in the owner's thread. This is for genuine issues.

Thanks. I posted here because I saw a few people having issues with the sound, so before I set it up I thought I would post here. Sorry!!!

Pat

The BH200 bug thread is a better place for issues.

I don't have any problems with my BH200. I've just upgraded my firmware (latest) and the driver and it's painless. I love this player! :D

I can get this player for sub 399.99 is it a good deal? Im debating between this and the ps3 however, I do own an hd-a3 and have about 20 or so hd-dvds that i can utilize with this thing. Plus i just bought hd-dvd blade runner for 17.99 today at futureshop and if more closeout hd-dvds can be bought at these insane prices than this player would be a help.

How is it in handling hd-dvd combo discs??

If you want insane closeout HD DVDs, check out here: http://stores.channeladvisor.com/inetvideocom/HD%20DVDs/

HD DVD combos are fine.

If you want insane closeout HD DVDs, check out here: http://stores.channeladvisor.com/inetvideocom/HD%20DVDs/

HD DVD combos are fine.

After 15 minutes of just sitting there and staring at the checkout screen, I decided not to get it. I have the two mummy films on DVDs already and it's probably not wise to double dip. Then for some other slightly interested, but not so highly rated film, the question is, will I really watch it more than once? Then with the fact that blurays are like on average $25 dollars when it's not on sale makes me not want to buy any high def discs anymore and will end up sticking with DVD and doing upconversion while keep watching the current collection of HDM, I shouldn't spoil myself and should keep used to upconversion quality so I don't have to spend extra money.

Long story short...after 20 minutes now, I decided not to buy any more HDM unless I really really have to (like Ironman) when there's a sale (<$23 dollars for new release).

Long story short...after 20 minutes now, I decided not to buy any more HDM unless I really really have to (like Ironman) when there's a sale (<$23 dollars for new release).

I take it you will be sticking to catalog sales then. <$23 is a used copy on E-bay for a new release.

I take it you will be sticking to catalog sales then. <$23 is a used copy on E-bay for a new release.

I'm sticking to DVDs until there's a sale for the holiday. :D Or I get some type of GC for Ironman. :D I don't want to pay anything more than $15 for a catalogue title I want.

After 15 minutes of just sitting there and staring at the checkout screen, I decided not to get it. I have the two mummy films on [SNIP] watching the current collection of HDM, I shouldn't spoil myself and should keep used to upconversion quality so I don't have to spend extra money.

Long story short...after 20 minutes now, I decided not to buy any more HDM unless I really really have to (like Ironman) when there's a sale (<$23 dollars for new release).

OK, so I know we're kind of drifting off topic here, but when I read your post I couldn't help but chuckle to myself. Your words could have been lifted right from my own internal dialogue; I'm faced with almost crazy anxiety as I keep watching HD DVD prices fall and fall. My knee-jerk instinct is to buy, buy, BUY! But then I think, "you know ... sooner or later you'll just have to buy this again on Blu-ray!" So, I try to really limit my purchases to movies I KNOW I'll watch over and over and/or disks with really solid audio and extras that won't immediately be outclassed by the Blu-ray version.

Of course, that being said, I'm pretty damn sure I've already got some HD DVD's just sitting there, waiting to collect dust. Oh, well! ;)

-C.

ah but to those of us who have hd-dvd players our collections are good. And im going to purchase the bh200 for 399.99 tomorrow... theyll only collect as much dust as my blu-rays will. I see no point in rebuying my 35 hd-dvds in blu-ray because some are superior (i.e. Dolby TrueHD vs. DD 5.1 on blu-ray) and because any re-releases would only cost more. I just got movies like fearless combo, balls of fury combo, etc... for like 7.99 each. Thats both an hd and dvd version.

on a side note... im not making a mistake purchasing the bh200 am i? its only 399.99 which is pretty cheap compared to what its going for elsewhere like amazon, or even ebay (right now) for that matter. I heard with firmware its got great audio codecs now too, and profile 1.1 should be good for blu-ray right? I dont really care for much web extras or anything. Just the movie, and the occasional deleted/extended scenes and commentaries. Profile 1.1 should handle those extras fine right?

on a side note... im not making a mistake purchasing the bh200 am i?

No. It's easily the best piece of electronics I've ever bought. On a lot of high dollar items, you don't feel like you've gotten your money's worth. Not the case with this player.

OK, so I know we're kind of drifting off topic here, but when I read your post I couldn't help but chuckle to myself. Your words could have been lifted right from my own internal dialogue; I'm faced with almost crazy anxiety as I keep watching HD DVD prices fall and fall. My knee-jerk instinct is to buy, buy, BUY! But then I think, "you know ... sooner or later you'll just have to buy this again on Blu-ray!" So, I try to really limit my purchases to movies I KNOW I'll watch over and over and/or disks with really solid audio and extras that won't immediately be outclassed by the Blu-ray version.

Of course, that being said, I'm pretty damn sure I've already got some HD DVD's just sitting there, waiting to collect dust. Oh, well! ;)

-C.

Not so with me! I'm continuing to purchase HD DVDs (especially those which have excellent reviews) because they're cheaper than Blu Rays and are every bit as good. I started my collection of HD disks with HD DVDs and was a supporter but now that HD DVD has expired I'm transitioning to Blu Ray consequently I bought the LG BH200. It's an excellent player and I very pleased with it's performance. I just recently upgraded my firmware and driver to the latest so I'm very happy. :D