Does anyone know if there are any differences in the upcoming 80gb PS3 re-release in June with the previous one (hardware/software/chips/connections/paint job/etc)? Thanks.

Not a lot of specs out on the new 80s (just speculation). Still, it seems likely they will have the lighter heat sinks and the 45nm chipset.

Other than that, who's to say.

I think the card readers are gone for good though............

Why did you create another thread on the topic of the 80G unit?

Especially, when your previous thread is still on the first page.... :rolleyes:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1026585

Lol. I actually looked for it and for some reason I was unable to find it and reply to it (which was my original intent). Ah well.. I can't wait till they come out. I have been waiting and waiting and waiting...and doesn't seem like price cuts are coming anytime soon.. but I really want them to be PS2 BC

just do what i did and buy a 40gb now at $100 cheaper and enjoy ps3 games now. the new 80gb should be just like the last. it has 0.00001% chance of including the 45nm die. It will most likely include the same 65nm die in the 40gb.

If you end up REALLY wanting to play ps2 games, buy a ps2 and "lose" $30 on the decision. Unless the only game you are going to play is Rockband, you listen to SACD's regularly, and you have a 25+ game ps2 collection....then you should wait for the 80gb and stop making threads about it since it's not out and no one knows for 100% sure until it's on a BB or CC shelf :)

IDK andross...I think it seems logical to cut production costs so that they can recoup some of their initial losses. This could be done in a number of ways, but the most efficient would be to use the smaller chipset and heatsink.

I still think its all speculation and anyone who says they know for certain is full of it.

If sony was smart they would have the ps3 play dvd-audio as well as sacd! (I can dream cant i ?) just think how many more they would sell,i dont play games but i might start if the sony ps3 would do dvd-a and sacd as well as blu ray of course!

65nm cell (most likely) and 65nm rsx (maybe)

IDK andross...I think it seems logical to cut production costs so that they can recoup some of their initial losses. This could be done in a number of ways, but the most efficient would be to use the smaller chipset and heatsink.

I still think its all speculation and anyone who says they know for certain is full of it.

obviously Sony wants that to cut costs, i just don't think 45nm chips are far enough along the pipeline to be showing up in systems that are going to be on retailer shelves 6.12.08. But i'm sure Sony is working hard to get those in their systems ASAP.

I'd say you can count on 65nm. 45nm is a long way off, plus there are not many 45nm fabs out there...not enough to satisfy Sony's demand.

I think the card readers are gone for good though............
You'd be wrong, thankfully. If you look at the specs on the Sony Style site for the 80 GB coming in June, it is still listed as having the memory card readers. See link in other, above referenced thread.

If sony was smart they would have the ps3 play dvd-audio as well as sacd! (I can dream cant i ?) just think how many more they would sell,i dont play games but i might start if the sony ps3 would do dvd-a and sacd as well as blu ray of course!


The 80GB ps3 plays SACD's. Does it not play DVD audio? I though allmost all dvd players could play DVD audio, including the PS3. :confused:

The 80GB ps3 plays SACD's. Does it not play DVD audio? I though allmost all dvd players could play DVD audio, including the PS3. :confused:

Hexzors:

You made a joke and don't know it. Sony's SACD format was the rival and arch nemesis of DVD-A (think Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD). Sony will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, EVER support DVD-A.

If you want a true universal Blu-Ray player you will need to look to Onkyo or Denon when they have more advanced players.

Wow that is a surprise to me also. I also thought the PS3 could play DVD audio and SACD's! Glad I did not buy that DVD audio CD I was thinking of buying at Fry's. It sounds a little silly to me. Why can they not release just Audio on a DVD and make it PCM since they so not have to waste space including the video? Oh well, Blu-ray audio is on the way with the Neil Young Archives.

Wow that is a surprise to me also. I also thought the PS3 could play DVD audio and SACD's! Glad I did not buy that DVD audio CD I was thinking of buying at Fry's. It sounds a little silly to me. Why can they not release just Audio on a DVD and make it PCM since they so not have to waste space including the video? Oh well, Blu-ray audio is on the way with the Neil Young Archives.

DVD really doesn't have the bandwidth for 96/24 5.1 PCM (13.8Mbps), so it uses Meridian Lossless Packing instead. Basically, MLP is the same as TrueHD. DVD-Audio support on the PS3 could be done since it obviosly can handle MLP.

DVD-Audio disks have the content recorded twice: once in the DVD-Audio mode (high quality 96 or 192 kHz lossless) and also once in the DVD-Video sound track mode (lower quality 48kHz lossy) for compatibility with DVD-Video players. This is why DVD-Audio disks do play in any DVD-Video player, but what you hear this way is not the high quality DVD-Audio recording, but a lower quality DVD-Video sound track. You can play back the true DVD-Audio track only in players compatible with the DVD-Audio standard. These players have the DVD-Audio logo and a lamp on the front panel that turns on once the player detects a DVD-Audio material. The difference in quality between these two tracks is quite apparent on high quality speakers, but is minimal on consumer level speakers.

The DVD-Audio track is encrypted, but Windows software exists to play DVD-Audio on a computer with a 96-192-kHz / 24-bit sound card. Conceptually this software could be ported to Linux enabling PS3 to play true DVD-Audio when booted to Linux. However, in the Sony mode PS3 will never paly DVD-Audio, because it is a competing standard to Sony's SACD, as the previous poster explained. However, PS3 does play the lower quality DVD-Video soundtrack from any DVD-Audio disk thus misleading some people. If you see "48 kHz" on the screen, it is not the true DVD-Audio track.

Damn Thunderstorm, it is post like yours that remind me why I read AVS forum and stay away from other kiddie forums. Your first post no less, welcome to the club :).