http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52650

Thank you!!! This is THE feature I've been wanting ever since I first touched GH. I wonder exactly how it will work like if I can just import any song file I want and create the track/notes.

It will also feature all master tracks and the band Sublime - another thing I've wanted to for a while. Sublime would be really fun to play.

I wonder if they'll be releasing another new guitar design with this one...

Hopefully Red Octane continues to make quality instruments and we don't have a repeat of the crap drums that have plagued RB. I'll be waiting, given the inevitable high price with the extra instruments, to hear about the quality. I'd also like to know what sort of DLC they'll be offering. The create a song feature is cool, but it's really difficult to do a decent chart, and most of the custom charts I've played weren't very good.

By the way, all the above can already be done on GH3 PC. I know because I play Sublime or AC/DC whenever the mood strikes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qzXYZrDn-Q

I know for a fact HMX ais already working on custom type modes for rock band 2(They doubled their work force in the past few months). Competition will do both well but I can't realistically pay for another GH game.

By the way, all the above can already be done on GH3 PC. I know because I play Sublime or AC/DC whenever the mood strikes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qzXYZrDn-Q

I haven't played a PC game in years. I'm also not interested in RB because the guitar charts are too easy and I don't care about the drums or vocals.

I like the sound of the custom songs and sharing, but I will be honest I do not care for nor want the drums or vocals. If I did, Id buy Rock Band. Its obvious Guitar Hero is trying to take some of the Rock band crowd back though which makes sense, but still.........I hope it does not take away from what makes Guitar Hero good.......and thats good guitar. Rock bands note charts were a joke IMO. Guitar Hero's are more fun/challenging. Plus, Im not going to pay $160 for the freakin game.

Just like with Rock Band and GH3, you could just buy the game itself.

I haven't played a PC game in years. I'm also not interested in RB because the guitar charts are too easy and I don't care about the drums or vocals.

obviously hasn't played green grass and high tides or any of the metallica tracks. and GH3 isn't harder it's just more useless notes.

http://www.primotechnology.com/2008/05/12/first-guitar-hero-iv-details-shed/
new link says GH4 will have a 6 piece drumset with two cymbals. Nope not trying to 1-up anyone at all.

Very interested in hearing more details about the drums.

Custom songs and sharing is a great idea for those who just can't wait for a certain song or band to be released - even better if you could pick up songs, characters guitars or artwork submitted from other community members. You can spend your own time creating songs (save your MS points), take your chances on someone else's work (all note charts are not created equal) or buy DLC.

Sharing characters and artwork, like the Wii "Check Mii Out" channel would also save time and offer inspiration. If someone else wants to take geometric shapes to redo the cover of "Rock and Roll Over" or something, or to make clothes and such for a complete KISS group - then you can focus your time and talents on just creating the many other players that went through the revolving guitarist/drummer door. :D

Custom setlist for single and multiplayer would be a bonus so you can keep the set going instead of scrolling through the song list each time. It might be nice to know heading into multiplayer what you were signing up for -number of songs, band if not which songs. Custom setlist would offer another way to make DLC part of the game/journey instead of firing them up on release day, giving them a run-through and then putting them on the back-burner.

RB in my house is basically another GH since we don't keep the drums out or sing all of the time. I think they're a blast, but they just aren't used as often and not having the other instruments does not limit the enjoyment of GH games for me.

As silly as it sounds, another guitar controller would only make it seem like I'm actually "collecting" guitar game controllers. I'm up for a new design for grins, and hate to admit that I like the FX switch on the RB (gives you a chance to try color the material in different ways) so bring it on. Maybe a "flying v" isn't out of the question.:D

I like to play songs in venues that aren't their default location to give it a different look so any level of customization and sharing should only enhance personalization and replayability. Maybe RB will allow single player DLC to be played somewhere other than the "DLC" arena someday because it can be a little Same SSSS Different Day. Custom venues- now that would be interesting a la Forge.

With GH4 and GH:A on the horizon its just great to have something new coming out other than the "sell more ink cartridges and paper for the printer" DLC approach.

Guitar Hero Tunes may just be a way to put royalty-free loops together to make your own song (?) but let's hope it allows you to import your digital music files anyway. :cool:

http://www.primotechnology.com/2008/05/12/first-guitar-hero-iv-details-shed/
new link says GH4 will have a 6 piece drumset with two cymbals. Nope not trying to 1-up anyone at all.

These gripes are just ridiculous. It's like saying Sony was trying to 1-up Nintendo when they released a controller with 4 shoulder buttons instead of 2 or that Chevy is trying to 1-up Ford for putting 2 airbags in the car instead of 1. Well really, OF COURSE they are trying to 1-up them. It's called BUSINESS.

Love this blurb from that link.....

"Due to the recent falling-out between Gibson and Activision, Guitar Hero IV’s guitars will not be licensed and instead will be custom-designed by the developer. They will incorporate a currently unrevealed feature that will “directly impact the way you play Guitar Hero in the future.”

In other words, to have full capability with the new game we'll need yet another F'ing guitar. I have a good time with guitar hero but the more I sit here and think about dropping another whats likely to be $100+, the more motivation Im getting to ditch GH and keep practicing my real guitar! GH is a nice quick fix to feel like you're rocking out to a song, but it still can't beat the real thing ; )

Gibson sued Harmonix over Rock Band too.

http://www.primotechnology.com/2008/05/12/first-guitar-hero-iv-details-shed/
new link says GH4 will have a 6 piece drumset with two cymbals. Nope not trying to 1-up anyone at all.

Man, if this is handled right it will be awesome. Still instills fear in me about the cost/reliability, but this could be even better than RB drums. The big question is DLC. Harmonix has kept up an amazing pace releasing DLC to date, and I don't know if Activision can approach that.

Man, if this is handled right it will be awesome. Still instills fear in me about the cost/reliability, but this could be even better than RB drums. The big question is DLC. Harmonix has kept up an amazing pace releasing DLC to date, and I don't know if Activision can approach that.

they don't want to rely on DLC, Activision enjoys annual(or bi-annual) game releases. Based on what we're seeing their looking to do a major GH release every year with a smaller expansion release in between. I can respect what Activision is doing but it's not for me. anotehr cymbal pad could add a bit more but I remember drummania had the same set up and wasn't as fun as rock band.

Why call it Guitar Hero when that clearly isn't the case any more since they're adding other instruments? RO must be bitter at HMX for Rock Band and are trying to reclaim the space. Rock Band has consistantly delivered on the promise of content every week since launch. So, what do you do when you don't have content but every 6 months and can't compete? You make it free by letting people upload their own tracks. Saves time, dev costs, licensing fees, etc. What Red Octane better consider is that when they release this, there's no point in buying another Guitar Hero game ever again. Nothing would be new except for graphical/character tweaks, which they could (and should) open up in game via downloads.

I think this is a terrible move for Red Octane, but when you have competition like Rock Band, what else can you do?

They can't compete? Have you seen the sales charts for GH3?

Why call it Guitar Hero when that clearly isn't the case any more since they're adding other instruments? RO must be bitter at HMX for Rock Band and are trying to reclaim the space. Rock Band has consistantly delivered on the promise of content every week since launch. So, what do you do when you don't have content but every 6 months and can't compete? You make it free by letting people upload their own tracks. Saves time, dev costs, licensing fees, etc. What Red Octane better consider is that when they release this, there's no point in buying another Guitar Hero game ever again. Nothing would be new except for graphical/character tweaks, which they could (and should) open up in game via downloads.

I think this is a terrible move for Red Octane, but when you have competition like Rock Band, what else can you do?

I disagree about not needing another game because of the uploading. I guess it really depends though how easy it is to implement good notes/charts to go along with the songs. I'm thinking along the lines of Halo 3 here with the Forge thing. Forge is awesome and users can share custom maps, but when it comes down to it people still want Bungie to provide them with new, polished maps. Forge just provides some extra entertainment.

Back to GH, Im thinking the way it will work is we upload any song we want, but its totally up to us where to place notes.....maybe the game will help auto populate some note charts, but its hard to envision them being as smooth as the ones that come with the game. If it does end up that way, then I agree with you and no more Guitar Hero!

Back to GH, Im thinking the way it will work is we upload any song we want, but its totally up to us where to place notes.....maybe the game will help auto populate some note charts, but its hard to envision them being as smooth as the ones that come with the game. If it does end up that way, then I agree with you and no more Guitar Hero!

they can't because of legal reasons. the custom tracks also won't have vocals. All I'm picturing right now is a bank of midi sounds to choose from...which doesn't sound very exciting to me. Guess we'll see when they release more info, but I really doubt I'll be picking this up. Didn't enjoy GH3 much at all and this just seems to be trying to emulate rock band. It would have to be off the charts good for me to buy a whole new set of instruments, and I simply don't have that faith in Neversoft. It's annoying enough sometimes to stow away the rock band drums and guitars downstairs, I don't need more.

obviously hasn't played green grass and high tides or any of the metallica tracks. and GH3 isn't harder it's just more useless notes.

Bingo...

Both of these companies can try to 1-up each other all they want...as long as they don't start making bands contractually exclusive...I want some Van Halen for RB too (although I'm starting to wonder if we'll see much of that genre at all since there's been close to none up to this point)...

obviously hasn't played green grass and high tides or any of the metallica tracks. and GH3 isn't harder it's just more useless notes.

GH3 does have more useless notes at times but it IS harder overall. I've also said on these boards before that GH2 is much better than GH3 and GH2 is also much harder than Rock Band. But it doesn't really matter, if you honestly think RB is harder than either GH2 or GH3, YOU obviously haven't played MANY of those songs.

Both of these companies can try to 1-up each other all they want...as long as they don't start making bands contractually exclusive...I want some Van Halen for RB too (although I'm starting to wonder if we'll see much of that genre at all since there's been close to none up to this point)...
They've already started. Aerosmith is exclusive to Guitar Hero now and I'm sure that Activision will start locking up even more acts.

Not sure I'll be interested in the Guitar Hero drums if they're not compatible with Rock Band and my Rock Pedal.

they don't want to rely on DLC, Activision enjoys annual(or bi-annual) game releases. Based on what we're seeing their looking to do a major GH release every year with a smaller expansion release in between. I can respect what Activision is doing but it's not for me. anotehr cymbal pad could add a bit more but I remember drummania had the same set up and wasn't as fun as rock band.

They've already started. Aerosmith is exclusive to Guitar Hero now and I'm sure that Activision will start locking up even more acts.


It will be interesting to see if the Vivendi/Activision deal has any play with Universal Music Group artists.

GH games have been well worth the investment -even if it means a new controller now and then for new functionality. I don't think that DLC expectations can ever be satisfied and that releasing game versions is fine and a good way to offer something refreshing (GH80's being the lower limit of this threshold).

Considering how much of RB DLC is retread or HMX band issue, I don't think the chasm between the two is a large as it may seem. GH has had some decent packs and some free ones. Hands down RB DLC has been overwhelming frequency with some good stuff, but GH owners have not been hung out to dry.

The glass is maybe a third full.:D

GH3 does have more useless notes at times but it IS harder overall. I've also said on these boards before that GH2 is much better than GH3 and GH2 is also much harder than Rock Band. But it doesn't really matter, if you honestly think RB is harder than either GH2 or GH3, YOU obviously haven't played MANY of those songs.Yeah, I believe the RB engine is harder (timing window + HO/PO), but MOST songs are so easily charted that we're compensated many times over as opposed to GH3.

GH2 is definitely harder especially 7th tier on because of the engine and the charts. I wouldn't say that I like the music more on GH2 though. I humbly have a different opinion.

I'm looking forward to making what sounds like customs with many instruments on GH4.

I love all these games and it may have become commericalized and overdone but it's interesting to see the evlolution and growth of both companies now. It's still fun. That's what's important. Now we'll have a souped up GH with a multitude of options.

GH3 does have more useless notes at times but it IS harder overall. I've also said on these boards before that GH2 is much better than GH3 and GH2 is also much harder than Rock Band. But it doesn't really matter, if you honestly think RB is harder than either GH2 or GH3, YOU obviously haven't played MANY of those songs.

I've been playing rhythm games for a long time and 100% a song on rock band is indeed harder in RB that any other guitar based rhythm game. Any song in GH3 would be much harder in the RB engine than in GH3's engine.

I've been playing rhythm games for a long time and 100% a song on rock band is indeed harder in RB that any other guitar based rhythm game. Any song in GH3 would be much harder in the RB engine than in GH3's engine.

With identical note charts, sure. The complaint about RB has nothing to do with the engine and everything to do with the charts themselves.

I got a 100% on "When You Were Young" and "Time We Had" quite easily, and I'm fairly certain it was on a sight read with "Time We Had". You have to qualify what you mean by "100% a song on rock band is indeed harder in RB that any other guitar based rhythm game" because it's simply not true with the songs that are included on the disc. It's quite a bit easier to 100% many of those songs on expert than it is with the songs included in pretty much every other rhythm game to date.

The addition of drums/mic is kind of pathetic. Trying to play catch-up with HMX and Rock Band looks bad.

I hope for the GH fans' sake that GH4 looks and sounds better than GH3.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c171/zygote7/5.jpg

I find it funny that Z-axis has been developing teh drum hero project. Z-axis is also known for making skateboarding games.

Considering how much of RB DLC is retread or HMX band issue, I don't think the chasm between the two is a large as it may seem. GH has had some decent packs and some free ones. Hands down RB DLC has been overwhelming frequency with some good stuff, but GH owners have not been hung out to dry.

The glass is maybe a third full.:D

By my quick count there have been 104 RB DLC songs released. 3 were HMX bands and 3 were GH retreads. GHIII has released 39 songs, 4 of which were from within the game (3 boss battles, and TDWDTG). So thats 98 RB original RB songs to 35 GHIII songs or 104 to 39 total. No matter how you look at it GH has been way outclassed.

By my quick count there have been 104 RB DLC songs released. 3 were HMX bands and 3 were GH retreads. GHIII has released 39 songs, 4 of which were from within the game (3 boss battles, and TDWDTG). So thats 98 RB original RB songs to 35 GHIII songs or 104 to 39 total. No matter how you look at it GH has been way outclassed.

JC,

Yes the numbers are there. Perhaps I have been living in the RB thread too much but my sentiment was that there is still a value/need for GH. I still have all of the GH games so my perspective on retreads (perhaps unfairly) involves those as well as tracks on RB that had been released previosly on GH3. Last night, I actually played GH2, GH3 and RB.

I look forward to weekly DLC and the upcoming release of GH:A and GH:4 - the more the merrier. A new GH game offers a new journey/challenge that at this point is a welcome novelty since RB (although a great game) is starting to look "Same old" to me. Maybe if I played as a band more often it would be different, but that would take some form of online BWT. Being a "guitar game" only hasn't limited my enjoyment of GH3.

So, I will continue to try and get the best of both worlds - accumulating controllers and incompatible DLC tracks -because these games are fun and its the best way to get the most content.

Anyway, I'm not making a shank or anything - just having the morning coffee.:cool:

JC,

Yes the numbers are there. Perhaps I have been living in the RB thread too much but my sentiment was that there is still a value/need for GH. I still have all of the GH games so my perspective on retreads (perhaps unfairly) involves those as well as tracks on RB that had been released previosly on GH3. Last night, I actually played GH2, GH3 and RB.

I look forward to weekly DLC and the upcoming release of GH:A and GH:4 - the more the merrier. A new GH game offers a new journey/challenge that at this point is a welcome novelty since RB (although a great game) is starting to look "Same old" to me. Maybe if I played as a band more often it would be different, but that would take some form of online BWT. Being a "guitar game" only hasn't limited my enjoyment of GH3.

So, I will continue to try and get the best of both worlds - accumulating controllers and incompatible DLC tracks -because these games are fun and its the best way to get the most content.

Anyway, I'm not making a shank or anything - just having the morning coffee.:cool:

I don't own them all anymore but I've bought them all as well. And really i don't think there's much hostility between fans of either series. The only resentment I have is for the companies activision and red octane. Their whole PR style some how comes off as insulting at times. I mean I bought GH2 for 360(even after owning it for ps2) because they made the promise of most DLC ever. They failed and took 8 months to answer for that broken promise and it was never actually apologized for just finally a excuse came out.
This whole breakout of rhythm games is like a vh1 behind the music. HMX and red octane formed an awesome band unlike anything that had ever been seen and then the band broke up and split the fan base.

I mean I bought GH2 for 360(even after owning it for ps2) because they made the promise of most DLC ever.


I can't say that DLC was on my mind at the time X360 was a new thing to me at the time, but wasn't that a tease to release a handful of GH1 tracks? It would be great to get it all on one system. Little did we know how fragmented the format/tracks/and controllers would get! There is still a vain hope that the back catalog will be released someday. :o

This whole breakout of rhythm games is like a vh1 behind the music. HMX and red octane formed an awesome band unlike anything that had ever been seen and then the band broke up and split the fan base.

Perhaps someone will remake the "bunker video" with RO/HMX GH/RB twist.

Now that would be an expensive reunion tour.

So were are left with the idea that we will get a limited amount of tracks for a finite amount of time - unless they allow you to migrate tracks from one version to another.

Time to make lemonade.

JC,

Yes the numbers are there. Perhaps I have been living in the RB thread too much but my sentiment was that there is still a value/need for GH. I still have all of the GH games so my perspective on retreads (perhaps unfairly) involves those as well as tracks on RB that had been released previosly on GH3. Last night, I actually played GH2, GH3 and RB.

I look forward to weekly DLC and the upcoming release of GH:A and GH:4 - the more the merrier. A new GH game offers a new journey/challenge that at this point is a welcome novelty since RB (although a great game) is starting to look "Same old" to me. Maybe if I played as a band more often it would be different, but that would take some form of online BWT. Being a "guitar game" only hasn't limited my enjoyment of GH3.

So, I will continue to try and get the best of both worlds - accumulating controllers and incompatible DLC tracks -because these games are fun and its the best way to get the most content.

Anyway, I'm not making a shank or anything - just having the morning coffee.:cool:

I wasn't trying to slam GH. In fact I liked GH3 a lot. I've been playing since shortly after GHI was released and I've bought every release of it (including GHII on both PS2 and 360. My point was just in the area of DLC, it's not really a contest.

I'm now a RB drum addict so I haven't played any GH for a long time. The drums for GH4 intrigue me but unless they are compatible with RB (and my RockPedal) I don't think I'll buy them unless they start releasing the quantity of DLC that HMX is doing. I think GH:A and GH4 will do very well, I'm just not sure how much crossover there will be between RB players and GH going forward.

I dont think it will do well if you cant download new content. That has gotta be the stupidest thing I ever have heard of. Its really guitar hero 3.5. Like halo 3 is halo 2.5. I hope thats not true becuase I love GH3. But if I cant download anything I dont think I will get this game until I can for like 20-30 dollars.

Are the rock band DLC songs any good? I havent been too impressed with the GH3 tracks and other than the free ones I havent downloaded any of them. Just doesnt seem worth it for playing a couple songs.

The drums are going to be wireless! Oh I hope they work with Rock Band.

Are the rock band DLC songs any good? I havent been too impressed with the GH3 tracks and other than the free ones I havent downloaded any of them. Just doesnt seem worth it for playing a couple songs.

there's 104 of them so far and yeah I'd say 80-90% are worth getting(I've probably bought that much of them too).
list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_in_Rock_Band#Downloadable_songs

Are the rock band DLC songs any good? I havent been too impressed with the GH3 tracks and other than the free ones I havent downloaded any of them. Just doesnt seem worth it for playing a couple songs.

They're generally of the same quality level as what's on the disc. There is also a fairly wide difficulty range, with songs in pretty much every tier available for every instrument. I'm not as optimistic as logicalnoise about how many are worth it, for me it's more in the 50-60% range, because I feel the value just isn't there for me for a lot of them.

Since the likelihood of GH4's songs being compatible with current instruments from RB or GH3 is slim....I think I am going to pass on it...Running out of room for all these damn controllers I have to buy every time a new GH comes out.

I think thats dumb. Just come out with good songs to dowload for a fair price. not 2$$'s a song

Am I the only one who couldn't care less about either game?

No, but so far you're the only one who thinks that your indifference is so important it needs to be posted in this thread. :rolleyes:

I'm pretty excited about this.

***SPOLIER ALERT*** if you haven't read the article or have been oblivious to Guitar Hero News in the last month(s).



-custom guitars, create-a-rocker will be fun to keep things fresh.
-A "Better" (hello WIRELESS!) drum set remains to be seen (and not heard) but I love the idea of "drum solo" sections a la (insert fav drummer here) complete with lights and pyro.
-activate star power by hitting both cymbals simultaneously - rock on!
-More core songs and more DLC will be hotly debated but more content the better!

I don't think we should underestimate the "jam" and "create a song feature." As someone who has painstakingly reproduced songs with step-recorded MIDI and found high-quality MIDI tracks created by others (let's not argue this oxy-moron) I am looking forward to these. Odds are that some of the most anticipated tracks will be created by someone who devotes the time and energy. Songs that you just can't wait for is only button clicks away for those that have some patience to work with it.

"Remix" the beats by selecting different drum kits and effects (FYI dagamepimp), riff along to your hearts content improvising with chords or solo notes... it will be interesting to see how you record your performance and turn your remix into a playable, multiplayer (dare I say it?) battle, or mode song.

Clive and Pandora are back too. I guess they buried Eddie and hope that they stowed the Ripper with him.

yeah but why the hell would there be spesficly no downloadable content? thats just stupid.

yeah but why the hell would there be spesficly no downloadable content? thats just stupid.

:confused:

Just noticed another little tidbit about character in GH4: You can use the same character for different intruments and difficulty levels. Having trouble passing a song on drums? Switch to guitar or drop difficulty level with the same character so you can move on.

Same character, different instruments is great because you don't have to "build up" rockers to be able to get the same guitars, clothes or arenas.

I read the preview in GI (first of all, its pretty weak that they have devoted top coverage to 2 GH games in like 4 months). Its pretty underwhelming. They really are just ripping off Rock Band and improving the game where it needs to be improved (and nobody ever said RB was flawless). And the way the whole preview is written it is like they are awesome trailblazers for doing this. Just terrible writing from Game Informer on that article. Really the only neat, original thing is the Create A Song mode.

Neversoft's attitude towards DLC is ****ing insulting, too, like, "we didn't get it right in GH3 but we will for GH4". What? Its DLC we are talking about! How about getting it right NOW and giving GH3 owners what you told them you would? The whole drum pad arms race is nuts, too. Who needs another fake drum set in their house? Why the hell are they prattling on and on about making the games more "realistic"? If you want realistic get a real instrument IMO. These companies are gonna kill this genre stone dead before long.

These companies are gonna kill this genre stone dead before long.

No, just Neversoft/Activision. They already killed most of the fun in the GH series for me.

from eurogamer


Band Career mode will be fully playable online for up to four of you, and you can take on another quartet anywhere in the world in Battle of the Bands mode, which could be hilariously chaotic. Tweak-freaks will doubtless also enjoy the ability to put together their very own monster of rock from top to bottom, customising everything from tattoos and types of pick, designing band logos and creating album artwork."

No, but so far you're the only one who thinks that your indifference is so important it needs to be posted in this thread. :rolleyes:

LOL Very true but better giving it it's own thread. :p

These gripes are just ridiculous. It's like saying Sony was trying to 1-up Nintendo when they released a controller with 4 shoulder buttons instead of 2 or that Chevy is trying to 1-up Ford for putting 2 airbags in the car instead of 1. Well really, OF COURSE they are trying to 1-up them. It's called BUSINESS.

Chevy doesn't need any airbags to 1-up Ford...

And what was HMX sued by Gibson for?

Chevy doesn't need any airbags to 1-up Ford...

And what was HMX sued by Gibson for?

same reason gibson is suing activision. They claim that Guitar hero infringes on a patent of theirs. HMX devloped teh software so they are suing them too.

Redesigned Guitarhero.com is up with Guitar Hero "World Tour" info and pics. The new controller looks like a cross between a Fender and a Kramer.

Looks big and expensive to me.

Hey guys,

I recently picked up GH3. Anyway to get "dream on" still or the 3 xbox 360 exclusive songs codes? i'd really really like dream on!

Hey guys,

I recently picked up GH3. Anyway to get "dream on" still or the 3 xbox 360 exclusive songs codes? i'd really really like dream on!

I think the window has closed on this one- it was a one day or one weekend deal a while back. You can get it again ... in June. :D Check for downloads you might still have some freebies available!

Enjoy GH3!

I think the window has closed on this one- it was a one day or one weekend deal a while back. You can get it again ... in June. :D Check for downloads you might still have some freebies available!

Enjoy GH3!


That sucks and really, if I can get Dream on, I don't really want the Aerosmith edition. Would it possible to copy it onto a mem card from someone that does have it? or the wonders of DRM block that?

That sucks and really, if I can get Dream on, I don't really want the Aerosmith edition. Would it possible to copy it onto a mem card from someone that does have it? or the wonders of DRM block that?

I can't think of any reason why this would be possible and I don't want to get up on the soap box to argue why GH:A would be a great way to get some new content.

Maybe they will release a smaller pack, but it seems unlikely when the whole game will be out there.

That sucks and really, if I can get Dream on, I don't really want the Aerosmith edition. Would it possible to copy it onto a mem card from someone that does have it? or the wonders of DRM block that?
Don't worry about it. Your not missing much. I used to have it when I owned the PS3 version. When I switched to the 360 it was no longer available.

Dream On is a great song but in GH3 you could fall asleep with the easy, slow repetitive chart. 2 of the 3 Muse songs are like this as well unfortunately.

I wonder if Dream On will be the same on GH Aerosmith.

I don't give the guitar/drum/band genre more then a year or two before it's totally dead. You have Rockband with all it's instruments, which don't work with guitar hero. GH4 is going to introduce drums and a guitar which don't work with either GH3 or Rockband. Konami is finally doing something with the drum and guitar music arcade games they did long before Harmonix. So we are about to have a 3rd franchise with the full 2 guitar and drum band. It's yet to be seen if there will be any comptibility with the Konami game/controller and any other game/controllers. If both Konami and Rockband do a yearly refresh and Guitar Hero does 2 refreshes a year, that's 4 full band game releases a year + downloadable content. Possibly none of the games will have interoperable controllers. There may be some diehards that will be all over everything, but most people will just lose interest.

To say that this genre is getting overcrowded is an understatement. Really, someone needs to go in a new direction because all these different games that do the same exact thing are redundant.

I don't give the guitar/drum/band genre more then a year or two before it's totally dead. You have Rockband with all it's instruments, which don't work with guitar hero. GH4 is going to introduce drums and a guitar which don't work with either GH3 or Rockband. Konami is finally doing something with the drum and guitar music arcade games they did long before Harmonix. So we are about to have a 3rd franchise with the full 2 guitar and drum band. It's yet to be seen if there will be any comptibility with the Konami game/controller and any other game/controllers. If both Konami and Rockband do a yearly refresh and Guitar Hero does 2 refreshes a year, that's 4 full band game releases a year + downloadable content. Possibly none of the games will have interoperable controllers. There may be some diehards that will be all over everything, but most people will just lose interest.

To say that this genre is getting overcrowded is an understatement. Really, someone needs to go in a new direction because all these different games that do the same exact thing are redundant.Why not? People love music and if there can be a thousand FPS and RPG games why not rhythm/music/instrument games as a growing genre?

Every FPS doesn't require an $80 controller that only works with that game.

Every FPS doesn't require an $80 controller that only works with that game.Fair enough. Without compatability, most are not going to jump to another guitar/drum/mic set. Well, maybe once, but not twice.;)

The controller issue is handled to some extent by having software and bundle packages available and we'll just have to see how interoperability unfolds. I don't mind picking up a new version if it adds some new functionality or at least design improvement.

For me, it will be interesting to see if DLC gets marooned going forward and what the patience level is for re-buying songs between formats/editions. With music (from a contemporary standpoint) you would seem to have a better chance of "turning over" your customers to newer groups as time passes so perhaps you could leave some tracks behind. Then again, as content gets "younger" you risk alienating "older" gamers who haven't quite kicked the habit that you could sell more classic tracks to.

It's these tracks that have a more timeless appeal that create the challenge of existing in more than one version of the game. GH/RB libraries for now are essentially land-locked in space and time to a specific version of the game.

It would be great if they had some kind of Billboard Chart showing sales for DLC tracks just to see what is moving.

Fair enough. Without compatability, most are not going to jump to another guitar/drum/mic set. Well, maybe once, but not twice.;)

My guess would be that you might get a break on the mic since RB/KR usb mics work. Actually the headset mic works.

Then again, this is Activision, right?:D

I don't give the guitar/drum/band genre more then a year or two before it's totally dead. You have Rockband with all it's instruments, which don't work with guitar hero. GH4 is going to introduce drums and a guitar which don't work with either GH3 or Rockband. Konami is finally doing something with the drum and guitar music arcade games they did long before Harmonix. So we are about to have a 3rd franchise with the full 2 guitar and drum band. It's yet to be seen if there will be any comptibility with the Konami game/controller and any other game/controllers. If both Konami and Rockband do a yearly refresh and Guitar Hero does 2 refreshes a year, that's 4 full band game releases a year + downloadable content. Possibly none of the games will have interoperable controllers. There may be some diehards that will be all over everything, but most people will just lose interest.

To say that this genre is getting overcrowded is an understatement. Really, someone needs to go in a new direction because all these different games that do the same exact thing are redundant.


I don't know about totally dead but I do agree that people will start getting turned off to this stuff. But it's like anything. Something takes off and everyone gets a "me too!" complex.

The thing with new hardware routinely is also a negative. Yes, it's improved n' all but it's getting to the point where you dont' just get a new guitar, its' a whole room set of drums/guitar(s)/mic and who knows what else they'll toss in. Trade in values take a **** and you're rather limited in your choices. At $150+ a pop it'll wear on people quickly. A good trade in option to the consumer directly from the studio/publisher would go a long way to make consumers happy and gain a loyal fanbase.

Activision and EA need to kiss and make up. Imagine if each racing game came with a wheel but you could only use that wheel for the specific game. Sounds absolutely retarded right!? because it is. As is this lack of interoperability. I'm just happy I can use the Les Paul for Rock Band on the 360, however that got by.

If a company really wanted to be cool, they'd transfer over your DLC to the new game and integrate it. Or update the songs for the new version and let you download them again for free. This magic company likely doesn't exist though.

If a company really wanted to be cool, they'd transfer over your DLC to the new game and integrate it. Or update the songs for the new version and let you download them again for free. This magic company likely doesn't exist though.

If I'm not mistaken Harmonix has been on record a few times that DLC will carry over to future iterations of the franchise.

If I'm not mistaken Harmonix has been on record a few times that DLC will carry over to future iterations of the franchise.

This remains to be seen, mainly because there isn't another version out there to validate. The only experience we have is the limited re-release of tracks for a partial set from GH1 to GH2 on 360. Understand this is something that I'd like to believe will happen, but I'm skeptical. Obviously there was no rush to try and re-release tracks for GH3 (if that's even possible) from previous versions. We'll just have to see what happens if and when we see the next version of Rockband.

Assuming that you will stil be able to get someting for old controllers, trade it in to GStop or some place, take your $10 and call it a day.

Don't worry about it. Your not missing much. I used to have it when I owned the PS3 version. When I switched to the 360 it was no longer available.

Dream On is a great song but in GH3 you could fall asleep with the easy, slow repetitive chart. 2 of the 3 Muse songs are like this as well unfortunately.

I wonder if Dream On will be the same on GH Aerosmith.

Agree. I love Dream On and I live GH but the song is just too slow for a guitar game. I played through the song once on hard and once on expert and never went back.