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jhoff80 06-12-08, 12:57 PM Out of curiosity... the achievement for beating the game on acolyte mode.... do you get that if you beat the game on a harder mode? It just seems like a waste to go back and play it on the easiest one, when I started on Warrior.
indomitable spirit achievement ftl.
Ha, been there done that. I've probably racked up 900 deaths so far in Mentor difficulty.
About those Test of Valor, by far the hardest one yet is the one with the stupid flying dragons shooting fireballs at you. You have to stop to shoot arrows at them only at the perfect time or else you miss your chance.
Out of curiosity... the achievement for beating the game on acolyte mode.... do you get that if you beat the game on a harder mode? It just seems like a waste to go back and play it on the easiest one, when I started on Warrior.
Yes you get both achievements, 200g. Nice bonus.
Oh yea, I only used the level 3 dragon sword as well. Trying to get the weapon achievements.
I'll probably go back and do these on acolyte mode, no sense in being aggravated with a crappy weapon in a harder mode.
benmighty 06-12-08, 01:26 PM from what i've been reading, the new game+ doesn't carry over to different difficulties, so it's collecting/powering weapons up again in those. i'll probably start a separate new game+ on warrior for the weapons achievements, start a game on acolyte for friends/demo purporses, and then just start trudging through mentor as well.
i'm guessing i'm going to be viewing save points in mentor like i do the end of a chapter now - convenient stopping points for the night.
i'd also be really interested in seeing what they do with any DLC in the future outside of the costume changes. given itagaki's departure, i'm still hoping they'll come through with something similar to the hurricane packs for ng1. if they're gonna have to pay him all those bonuses (plus whatever he's gonna rack up on this one) they'll need the extra cash.
i also think it's interesting how negative the reviews were on this compared to the overwhelmingly positive response from players - true, it's been people who were waiting for it and not those who are taking time out from WiiSports - but everything i have seen across many boards and friends has been acknowledgement of the faults (camera, boss issues, framerate issues, etc) but pure masochist love despite those. truly a game made for gamers . . . with the influx of "casual gaming," this could be the last one . . .
cesslinger 06-12-08, 01:31 PM Personally, completing the weapon achievments on Acolyte will be a chore. I will finish mentor with the DS and then might run through game+ a couple of times again on mentor before jumping into Master Ninja.
logicalnoise 06-12-08, 01:37 PM from what i've been reading, the new game+ doesn't carry over to different difficulties, so it's collecting/powering weapons up again in those. i'll probably start a separate new game+ on warrior for the weapons achievements, start a game on acolyte for friends/demo purporses, and then just start trudging through mentor as well.
i'm guessing i'm going to be viewing save points in mentor like i do the end of a chapter now - convenient stopping points for the night.
i'd also be really interested in seeing what they do with any DLC in the future outside of the costume changes. given itagaki's departure, i'm still hoping they'll come through with something similar to the hurricane packs for ng1. if they're gonna have to pay him all those bonuses (plus whatever he's gonna rack up on this one) they'll need the extra cash.
i also think it's interesting how negative the reviews were on this compared to the overwhelmingly positive response from players - true, it's been people who were waiting for it and not those who are taking time out from WiiSports - but everything i have seen across many boards and friends has been acknowledgement of the faults (camera, boss issues, framerate issues, etc) but pure masochist love despite those. truly a game made for gamers . . . with the influx of "casual gaming," this could be the last one . . .
meta critic has it at 94. Most reviews were very postive(the ones I've seen have been high 8's to low 9's). I'm only on level 5 on alcolyte but I think this is the definitive NG title. I love balance and new features and I'm constantly looking forward to moving ahead through it. As for DLC I wouldn't be surprised if we get at least one new weapon.
chad473 06-12-08, 02:42 PM i also think it's interesting how negative the reviews were on this compared to the overwhelmingly positive response from players - true, it's been people who were waiting for it and not those who are taking time out from WiiSports - but everything i have seen across many boards and friends has been acknowledgement of the faults (camera, boss issues, framerate issues, etc) but pure masochist love despite those. truly a game made for gamers . . . with the influx of "casual gaming," this could be the last one . . .
but the reviews haven't really been negative. a lot of the negativity seemed to be coming from people that didn't even have the system and immediately started dogging it when they heard it had some slowdown and wasn't rendered in 720p. Those kinds of things in reviews are often fanboy fodder.
cesslinger 06-12-08, 04:07 PM I have embraced the slowdown that occurs in the game. It makes it very simple to counter almost every attack that I block. If a ninja attacks me and it is blocked, almost 100% guarantee that the fool is getting Izuna dropped. They are at least losing a limb.
ogbuehi 06-12-08, 07:59 PM I'm surprised to hear about so many slowdowns. I haven't had one at all.
jhoff80 06-12-08, 09:03 PM I'm surprised to hear about so many slowdowns. I haven't had one at all.
Same here. I get loading screens every now and then in the beginning of fights, but haven't had too much slowdown
SAVholic 06-12-08, 09:23 PM playing in warior. Hard and fun at the same time (some times it gets frustrating but what the heck) got some but not may slowdowns and only when facing a very large amount of bad guys at the same time. Game looks and plays great!
General Kenobi 06-13-08, 11:11 AM Wow, serious slowdown on Lvl 10 last night. I was making my way up th stairs and was fighting probably 30-40 of the green ninja's. Using the kusarigama and issuing some serious mass dismemberment! It actually looked like slowmo and was sorta cool. That weapon on Lvl 3 with all those ninja's just getting wrecked has probably been the most fun I've had with this game.
btw - Where is the windmill?
cesslinger 06-13-08, 02:27 PM Chapter 11 my friend.
Tenguru3000 06-14-08, 11:01 PM I was disappointed with the graphics in the first few chapters, but in chapter 5 and beyond, the graphics are very impressive. This game is well worth my $60.
GrooveRite 06-15-08, 02:10 AM I was disappointed with the graphics in the first few chapters, but in chapter 5 and beyond, the graphics are very impressive. This game is well worth my $60.
The fighting with Volf in the arena of wolves was SWEEETT!!
jhoff80 06-15-08, 03:31 AM I just have to say that I absolutely hate Chapter 8. The rocket launcher ninjas shooting at me from a mile away while I'm fighting machine gun robots, its just absolutely ridiculous.
RKRocha 06-16-08, 10:39 AM Ok, I think I am missing something...Weapon upgrades. How is this done? I am finding items that upgrade my ninpo, but no weapon upgrades yet. I am on stage 4, about half way through and playing on Acolyte. Thx
Tenkaipalm 06-16-08, 10:44 AM Ok, I think I am missing something...Weapon upgrades. How is this done? I am finding items that upgrade my ninpo, but no weapon upgrades yet. I am on stage 4, about half way through and playing on Acolyte. Thx
You can upgrade weapons when you visit Muramusa's shop. When in the shops, hit RT to goto "blacksmith". You can then spend Yellow essence to upgrade your wepaons. An upgrade to Level 2 costs 10000 essence, to Level 3 it's 30000 (but you must upgrade to lvl 2 first).
GrooveRite 06-16-08, 10:46 AM Ok, I think I am missing something...Weapon upgrades. How is this done? I am finding items that upgrade my ninpo, but no weapon upgrades yet. I am on stage 4, about half way through and playing on Acolyte. Thx
You purchase the level ups in the old mans shop, I forget his name, Maramusa I think. Shows you how much attention I have, lol.
10,000 for level 2
30,000 for level 3
RKRocha 06-16-08, 10:51 AM You purchase the level ups in the old mans shop, I forget his name, Maramusa I think. Shows you how much attention I have, lol.
10,000 for level 2
30,000 for level 3
Doh! I will have to check that out! Here I am trying to survive the 2nd TOV without any weapons upgraded?!!! I was 3 fiends away too! Waaaaaahhhhhh!!!!
Thanks for the tip!
Is this game as hard as the first one? I think Ninja Gaiden is the only game that I have ever given up on because I thought it was too hard.
RobertR1 06-16-08, 11:56 AM Is this game as hard as the first one? I think Ninja Gaiden is the only game that I have ever given up on because I thought it was too hard.
I never played the first and not into action games like this but I was able to get through it on the easiest setting. Take the time to learn some of the moves and combos and the game gets a lot easier than trying to mash buttons.
logicalnoise 06-16-08, 12:22 PM Is this game as hard as the first one? I think Ninja Gaiden is the only game that I have ever given up on because I thought it was too hard.
yes it's harder but also a bit easier(easier to manage I guess). I'm playing through the game slowly on the easy setting and AI wise the enmies are dumber but their attacks are just as brutal. You'll be facing more enemies at once than in the last game. However your spells are more powerful than before you have more weapons than before and each one has been useful for at least one type of baddie. Your health regerates to a point after every battle. Obliteration attacks are unstoppable once initiated and if you pull one of it's a gauranteed full kill. save stations give you full health back on your first visit. teh harder teh difficulty setting te more cunning and cheap the enemies will get. They'll do more damagae and the health pickups will be less and less plentiful. Plus harder enemies show up sooner in the game(we're talking ninjas with rocket launchers and un stunnable feinds with chainsaws for arms).
cesslinger 06-16-08, 12:36 PM I defeated Volf last night on mentor. Super easy to win, what a pushover. By the way, does anyone else here shorten the triple flying swallow into just triple swallow? "man that boss was hard until I figured out the triple swallow technique".
I defeated Volf last night on mentor. Super easy to win, what a pushover. By the way, does anyone else here shorten the triple flying swallow into just triple swallow? "man that boss was hard until I figured out the triple swallow technique".
I don't know how you do it, I can't beat test of valor 1 on mentor yet. It's driving me nuts. I'm not continueing until I beat it too...
It's all about luck in there, seriously. If I end a move and one of the ninjas is near me and happens to do a throw move, it's pretty much over.
These idiots ignite a grenade and jam it into you still in their hand, in the process losing their own arm.
Moosebox 06-16-08, 01:11 PM Downloaded the demo, played through it once, not really my kind of game. I was never one who enjoyed games where you need to remember combos and whatnot. I'm still looking for a game for the 360 that is like 'The Hunter: Reckoning Redeemer' for the xbox1, good old hack n' slash with co-op.
RobertR1 06-16-08, 01:32 PM Downloaded the demo, played through it once, not really my kind of game. I was never one who enjoyed games where you need to remember combos and whatnot. I'm still looking for a game for the 360 that is like 'The Hunter: Reckoning Redeemer' for the xbox1, good old hack n' slash with co-op.
Too Human coming up in august.
logicalnoise 06-16-08, 01:58 PM Downloaded the demo, played through it once, not really my kind of game. I was never one who enjoyed games where you need to remember combos and whatnot. I'm still looking for a game for the 360 that is like 'The Hunter: Reckoning Redeemer' for the xbox1, good old hack n' slash with co-op.
theirs a XBLA arcade game. I forget the name but it's pretty much a diablo clone still pretty fun if you like the genre. also try "overlord" though it plays a bit different that a hack n slash.
Downloaded the demo, played through it once, not really my kind of game. I was never one who enjoyed games where you need to remember combos and whatnot. I'm still looking for a game for the 360 that is like 'The Hunter: Reckoning Redeemer' for the xbox1, good old hack n' slash with co-op.
They could just remake that first Hunter game and I'd be happy. I love that game. Just make it so I don't have to keep tapping the trigger to attack. I'm like you, I've been waiting for something like that for a while, but nothing comes close. Left 4 Dead is going to be the closest thing coming.
cesslinger 06-16-08, 03:00 PM I don't know how you do it, I can't beat test of valor 1 on mentor yet. It's driving me nuts. I'm not continueing until I beat it too...
It's all about luck in there, seriously. If I end a move and one of the ninjas is near me and happens to do a throw move, it's pretty much over.
These idiots ignite a grenade and jam it into you still in their hand, in the process losing their own arm.
I had problems also. This is what you do. Run your ass off and when you encounter any ninjas that are NOT mages you will want to cut them up so that a leg falls off. Do not kill them, just maim. So, you should have about 6 ninjas that flop around like Lt. Dan. Now, run your ass off some more and kill only the mages that shoot fire. Everytime you kill one, a new one will spawn. After about 30 of these suckers you are done with the hardest part. Now if you wish, you can keep doing this until everyone is dead. I decided to kill all of the gimps and finish the test with the rest of the ninjas running like bats out of hell. I only used one little potion.
I got to the TOV for chapter 6, but man, I didn't have the weapon or potions needed to finish that one. There are flying dudes that shoot rockets and those purple robotic chicks. Quite a pain in the bum.
clear31 06-16-08, 06:24 PM anyone not that impressed with ninja gaiden 2 visually? i dunno why just expected more.
its a great game though and alot easier than 1. just it doesnt feel next gen to me. Like it doesnt feel all that different from 1 on the xbox.
logicalnoise 06-16-08, 09:34 PM anyone not that impressed with ninja gaiden 2 visually? i dunno why just expected more.
its a great game though and alot easier than 1. just it doesnt feel next gen to me. Like it doesnt feel all that different from 1 on the xbox.
I agree they should have changed everything since the first game was so broken.......
Tenguru3000 06-16-08, 11:38 PM anyone not that impressed with ninja gaiden 2 visually? i dunno why just expected more.
its a great game though and alot easier than 1. just it doesnt feel next gen to me. Like it doesnt feel all that different from 1 on the xbox.
I thought the exact same thing. To my surprise, the graphics seemed to improve a lot after chapter 4. Some of the later chapters look really good to me. What chapter are you on?
anyone not that impressed with ninja gaiden 2 visually? i dunno why just expected more.
its a great game though and alot easier than 1. just it doesnt feel next gen to me. Like it doesnt feel all that different from 1 on the xbox.
Yeah, I've said it before. Looks like they just put a few updates on the xbox1 engine. They say built from the ground up for 360, but I think they meant xbox 1. The graphics do get a little better after you go through the werewolf levels though.
General Kenobi 06-17-08, 10:40 AM Damn, did Ch. 12 increase the difficulty by 10x or what? Maybe I was just not in the zone last night but I started going through Ch 12 and just got my arse handed to me. Not even fun it was so frustrating. I actually had to run past the first group of winged demons with all the fire ball cheapness. Any tips for this chapter are very welcome!
RobertR1 06-17-08, 11:44 AM Damn, did Ch. 12 increase the difficulty by 10x or what? Maybe I was just not in the zone last night but I started going through Ch 12 and just got my arse handed to me. Not even fun it was so frustrating. I actually had to run past the first group of winged demons with all the fire ball cheapness. Any tips for this chapter are very welcome!
Run up and then run back towards the start area and then melee guys will follow you while the flying dragons stay in place. Once you dispose of them, you can just jump and fire off 2 arrows without aiming and they'll hit. Roll jump and repeat till they're all down. Use a level 3 scythe and it's charged up ultimate. It'll dismember them. Then just hit Y to obliterate them one at a time.
The thing about NG2 is, you think damn! that's cheap or hard! but once you get past it, you realize it was you not thinking of a good strategy. Plan out your battles. Don't just charge in there. 12 through 14 step on the difficulty scale. You'll need enough money to buy lots of potions also.
Run up and then run back towards the start area and then melee guys will follow you while the flying dragons stay in place. Once you dispose of them, you can just jump and fire off 2 arrows without aiming and they'll hit. Roll jump and repeat till they're all down. Use a level 3 scythe and it's charged up ultimate. It'll dismember them. Then just hit Y to obliterate them one at a time.
The thing about NG2 is, you think damn! that's cheap or hard! but once you get past it, you realize it was you not thinking of a good strategy. Plan out your battles. Don't just charge in there. 12 through 14 step on the difficulty scale. You'll need enough money to buy lots of potions also.
There's not much strategy involved when you have 50 dragons shooting fireballs at you with almost no time to ever shoot an arrow. I really despise the bow and arrow sequences in this game. Then they force you to use it. I've even had a couple areas where I got stuck because one of the dragons flew behind an area and would not move, can't shoot through the gate, had to restart from the last save.
The design of those dragons bothers me too, they have no legs or arms. It makes no sense, the thing wouldn't be able to ever stop flying. Couldn't lift off because it's can't jump up to get enough space to flap it's wings. I know they show the big one sitting on a hill in a cut scene, but it would never be able to sit up straight like that...I know this game has nothing to do with reality, but those things bother me!
RobertR1 06-17-08, 01:38 PM There's not much strategy involved when you have 50 dragons shooting fireballs at you with almost no time to ever shoot an arrow. I really despise the bow and arrow sequences in this game. Then they force you to use it. I've even had a couple areas where I got stuck because one of the dragons flew behind an area and would not move, can't shoot through the gate, had to restart from the last save.
The design of those dragons bothers me too, they have no legs or arms. It makes no sense, the thing wouldn't be able to ever stop flying. Couldn't lift off because it's can't jump up to get enough space to flap it's wings. I know they show the big one sitting on a hill in a cut scene, but it would never be able to sit up straight like that...I know this game has nothing to do with reality, but those things bother me!
You don't have to aim the bow if you jump....you can fire off 2 shots easy. Jump and roll away or block/dash when you land. This is on acolyte and warrior. Maybe things are different on mentor and master ninja but reading the thread on neogaf and seeing the people play and beat it on those difficulties, the same strategy seems to be working. Outside of the bosses, where you have to charge up the bow, you can jump shoot and let auto aim do its thing. For the boss dragons, use the Void ninpo stacked up. They go down fast. The 50 dragons in one spot is one hell of an exaggeration.
General Kenobi 06-17-08, 04:41 PM I'll have to try leading them back down the hill. When I was trying to fight them all together I'd have one or two swatting at me on the ground and about 4 shooting fire balls at me so even when jumping, rolling, dashing, etc. I was just getting multiple hits between every 3-4 blows I could deal out which was doing some serious damage to my energy. I found the void ninpo to work very well but that was about the only way I could get them killed... most of the time I was just suspended in the air with one fireball hit after another.
I was trying to use the kusarigama which worked very well earlier in the game due to its reach but it seemed to slow a weapon to use here.
clear31 06-17-08, 04:57 PM I agree they should have changed everything since the first game was so broken.......
i can't tell if you are serious or not lol. what do ya mean by the 1st was so broken. not sure if you are really agreeing with me or mocking me. just wondering. my apologies if you didnt mean any harshness towards me
I thought the exact same thing. To my surprise, the graphics seemed to improve a lot after chapter 4. Some of the later chapters look really good to me. What chapter are you on?
i guess i'll have to wait till later than since i'm only past the first chapter. i only loaded it up and played the first level to get a taste. i was busy playing bourne conspiracy which i loved eventhough it's a rental at best. Also, want to finish metal gear solid 4 before i jump into ninja gaiden 2 fully. Hopefully, it gets better visually like most of ya are saying.
Yeah, I've said it before. Looks like they just put a few updates on the xbox1 engine. They say built from the ground up for 360, but I think they meant xbox 1. The graphics do get a little better after you go through the werewolf levels though.
yeah, granted it was only the first stage for me but i just felt from the very start it should of made my jaw drop. I mean personally I felt Halo 3 was a jump over Halo 2 eventhough i've spoken to plenty of people who disagree. Ninja Gaiden 2 though has not impressed me much yet. Like i said though to the previous poster i am only past the first stage so i'll hold final judgement till i'm later on into the game.
cesslinger 06-19-08, 02:13 PM I am slowly working my way through mentor. I am now on chapter 9. I have over 40k in essence and all of my items are maxed out. I only have the DS leveled up though, I have not used any other weapons for this run. I am now easily able to get 50+ hit combos with it.
logicalnoise 06-19-08, 02:16 PM @clear I was being sarcastic. In my experience this game only built on what Ninja Gaiden 1 was. WHich is all a sequel ever has to do.
cesslinger 06-19-08, 05:53 PM Does anyone here have any problems with the underground worm boss? I found a ridiculously easy way to beat him yesterday. let me know if you need tips.
Entity X 06-20-08, 07:42 AM The design of those dragons bothers me too, they have no legs or arms. It makes no sense, the thing wouldn't be able to ever stop flying. Couldn't lift off because it's can't jump up to get enough space to flap it's wings. I know they show the big one sitting on a hill in a cut scene, but it would never be able to sit up straight like that...I know this game has nothing to do with reality, but those things bother me!
LOL, thanks for pointing this out... now the game will never be the same for me.
clear31 06-20-08, 10:49 AM @clear I was being sarcastic. In my experience this game only built on what Ninja Gaiden 1 was. WHich is all a sequel ever has to do.
its all good i guess i just felt a sequel should go beyond expectations especially when its on a newer system. Like to me this would be a fine jump for Gears of War 2 from 1 but to me on a newer system it just seems a bit off.
I have still yet to see the later levels though so still holding final judgement. Havent had time with all these damn games out lol. With Guitar Hero aerosmith and Bad Company coming that def wont help matters :D
ogbuehi 06-20-08, 04:51 PM Well lvl 5 water horse is kicking my arse. I can never get him below 50% life and I can't hit him while standing on the concrete. This game is tough.
cesslinger 06-20-08, 05:46 PM ogbuehi
Use arrows and shoot him in the face. The dragon will only do 3 things, a belly flop that will not hurt you, shoot little ice missles that are annoying but don't do much damage, and a scream that will send a narrow wave of water towards you. So get on the edges of the ledge and when you see the dragon scream, dash to the other side to avoid getting hit. Hit the dragon in the face with UT charged arrows and he will be the next ninja uniform material for the mama san ninjas to sew up.
RobertR1 06-22-08, 11:31 PM So I downloaded NG1 off Live originals. First of all, anyone who claims that NG1 is better needs to go back and play it. Don't just base it off your memory. NG1 is quite meh compared to 2. I'm towards the later part of level 6.
Differences:
- As much as people complain about the camera, the camera in NG1 is MUCH worse. I'm abusing the right trigger to center the camera tons more than in NG2.
- The grahics in NG2 are clearly better as are the animation. The gameplay is also much faster. The lack of obliteration techniques make this rather boring in combat. The combat in NG1 isn't nearly as satisfying as in 2. I wouldn't even want to think of having the NG1 camera with the fast pace of NG2.
- Boss battles. The boss battles are fun in both. Team Ninja got this part down.
- The audio in NG2 is the most obvious improvement. The sound effects hit home better and you can hear the power of the different weapons and attacks. The back ground music is downright pimp in NG2.
- The health regen in NG2 is nice vs always being paranoid about potion inventory. The save points in NG1 blow + they respawn enemies.
Overall, NG2 is easily a superior game over NG1. If my impressions change going forward, I'll post accordingly.
ogbuehi 06-23-08, 12:43 AM ogbuehi
Use arrows and shoot him in the face. The dragon will only do 3 things, a belly flop that will not hurt you, shoot little ice missles that are annoying but don't do much damage, and a scream that will send a narrow wave of water towards you. So get on the edges of the ledge and when you see the dragon scream, dash to the other side to avoid getting hit. Hit the dragon in the face with UT charged arrows and he will be the next ninja uniform material for the mama san ninjas to sew up.
Wow! Thanks. I was a first time go at this station with that tip. I was running around the water fighting fish and using ninpo when all I had to do was stand my ground. Very much appreciated.
cesslinger 06-23-08, 09:02 AM ogbuehi
Glad I was able to help.
logicalnoise 06-23-08, 11:31 AM So I downloaded NG1 off Live originals. First of all, anyone who claims that NG1 is better needs to go back and play it. Don't just base it off your memory. NG1 is quite meh compared to 2. I'm towards the later part of level 6.
Differences:
- As much as people complain about the camera, the camera in NG1 is MUCH worse. I'm abusing the right trigger to center the camera tons more than in NG2.
- The grahics in NG2 are clearly better as are the animation. The gameplay is also much faster. The lack of obliteration techniques make this rather boring in combat. The combat in NG1 isn't nearly as satisfying as in 2. I wouldn't even want to think of having the NG1 camera with the fast pace of NG2.
- Boss battles. The boss battles are fun in both. Team Ninja got this part down.
- The audio in NG2 is the most obvious improvement. The sound effects hit home better and you can hear the power of the different weapons and attacks. The back ground music is downright pimp in NG2.
- The health regen in NG2 is nice vs always being paranoid about potion inventory. The save points in NG1 blow + they respawn enemies.
Overall, NG2 is easily a superior game over NG1. If my impressions change going forward, I'll post accordingly.
That's pretty much what I remember and sigma didn't even improve half of the things you listed.
benmighty 06-23-08, 11:41 AM beat the game saturday night. immediately started a play-through on path of the mentor . . . and got it handed to me in the very first fight . . . three straight times.
replay value!
btw, master ninja'd every level on warrior.
GrooveRite 06-23-08, 12:13 PM I was playing the dragon bosses at the end of chapter 9 in the waterfall stage last night and MY GOODNESS the graphics looked AMAZING on that stage!! Whomever has had negative remarks about the graphics in the game has either not played through the whole game or just love blurry graphics.
mboojigga 06-24-08, 08:01 PM Anyone got tips on what to do with the final boss?
cesslinger 06-27-08, 09:31 AM Alright, path of the mentor complete. Over 24 million karma. Dragon sword master also completed. Now to start path of the master ninja..
GrooveRite 06-27-08, 09:52 AM Alright, path of the mentor complete. Over 24 million karma. Dragon sword master also completed. Now to start path of the master ninja..
Show off! :rolleyes: lol
logicalnoise 06-27-08, 09:57 AM Show off! :rolleyes: lol
actually he should. post some game vids via live!
Alright, path of the mentor complete. Over 24 million karma. Dragon sword master also completed. Now to start path of the master ninja..
I kind of gave up on my quest since I started grid, then I got MGS4 and I'm having more fun on that now.
RobertR1 06-27-08, 11:15 AM Anyone got tips on what to do with the final boss?
Shoot a charged up arrow to the face. Then the blue orb in it's stomach will glow that that with arrows while jumping left right to avoid the corpses he spits out.
On the 2nd form, get close to him when he's on the ledge and to the right on his hand and hack away with the sycthe. Use a ninpo if you think you're about to be hit. Or you can always just jump around and wait for him to do his air slam after which he'll walk straight at the wall. Hit his ankles while he's walking. Main thing. Avoid laser and avoid grab.
cesslinger 06-27-08, 11:17 AM I need more practice before making videos. I am contemplating buying a capture card so I can make my own videos with a nice thrash metal soundtrack. The way that I play is not very flashy, every cut is calculated. Needless to say, I am not a button masher.
GrooveRite 06-27-08, 11:37 AM I need more practice before making videos. I am contemplating buying a capture card so I can make my own videos with a nice thrash metal soundtrack. The way that I play is not very flashy, every cut is calculated. Needless to say, I am not a button masher.
I wish I had the time to play at your level. I love this game but my lack of skill hinders (slightly) my enjoyment of this game. I play flashy and get my arse handed to me many times because of that oddly enough, lol! Stick with the calculated/precision play.
cesslinger 06-27-08, 12:26 PM I had over 500 hours on the original NG on xbox. That was when I had all the time in the world. Go to work, come home, play NG till my eyes bleed. Now I am trying to get a CPA, so I don't get to play as long as I would like. Usually, soon as my studies are done, right back on NG.
The lava armadillo thing at the end of Chap 7 is really starting to piss me off. Three consecutive times I've had 3/4 health and the armadillo down to where it starts glowing, but it always does that bull**** rolling and launching fire boulders out of its back. Which I apparently can't dodge no matter what I do. I'm on Acolyte and I've still died 20-30 times fighting this thing.
I think I have it down to what I know I'm doing, but the last part of the battle seems impossible compared to first part. It doesn't help I have no health potions on me (had to use all just to beat the previous boss on the ship).
Any tips?
jhoff80 06-27-08, 01:41 PM The lava armadillo thing at the end of Chap 7 is really starting to piss me off. Three consecutive times I've had 3/4 health and the armadillo down to where it starts glowing, but it always does that bull**** rolling and launching fire boulders out of its back. Which I apparently can't dodge no matter what I do. I'm on Acolyte and I've still died 20-30 times fighting this thing.
I think I have it down to what I know I'm doing, but the last part of the battle seems impossible compared to first part. It doesn't help I have no health potions on me (had to use all just to beat the previous boss on the ship).
Any tips?
I find that when I get stuck it usually helps to switch to one of my other weapons.
cesslinger 06-27-08, 02:26 PM Use incindiary shurkins on the 'dillo's head. If you manage to connect one before he starts rolling around, the explosion usually will stop him from rolling. Besides, once he goes beserk, a couple more hits and he will kneel down allowing a nice obliteration. Prepare yourself by defeating this giant rolly poley without taking damage, you will thank me later on.
Prepare yourself by defeating this giant rolly poley without taking damage, you will thank me later on.
Does that have anything to do with the 'surprise' ending? I have gotten to that point a couple times now.
Even being cautious about attacking the 'dillo I still end up losing at least half my health (as mentioned before, I have absolutely no health potions left).
jhoff80 06-27-08, 10:56 PM Does that have anything to do with the 'surprise' ending? I have gotten to that point a couple times now.
Even being cautious about attacking the 'dillo I still end up losing at least half my health (as mentioned before, I have absolutely no health potions left).
At the surprise ending.... block.
cesslinger 06-29-08, 06:54 PM Ok, I have made on master ninja video that has been uploaded. Chapter 1 default health and level 1 dragon sword, master ninja difficulty. My gamertag is Chuck81. There are some decent encounters, then I get massacred by claw ninjas.
lunaticpuma 06-30-08, 08:27 AM The lava armadillo thing at the end of Chap 7 is really starting to piss me off. Three consecutive times I've had 3/4 health and the armadillo down to where it starts glowing, but it always does that bull**** rolling and launching fire boulders out of its back. Which I apparently can't dodge no matter what I do. I'm on Acolyte and I've still died 20-30 times fighting this thing.
I think I have it down to what I know I'm doing, but the last part of the battle seems impossible compared to first part. It doesn't help I have no health potions on me (had to use all just to beat the previous boss on the ship).
Any tips?
Use Lunar and Incendiary Shurikens.
Incendiary Shurikens to the face when it is going to do a range attack on you since it stops the attack. They also do a good deal of damage when stuck to the head. Lunar also provides good range due to its length. Attack the face/neck for most damage. When the armadillo rolls up and shoots lava rocks just dodge as best as you can. I beat it using either no health or 1 small health item that way.
Leadsalad 06-30-08, 12:54 PM Just use the Scythe, run up to his head and go bonkers on his face, he dies in <5 seconds from the start. I spent 2 hours trying to defeat him by hitting his tail and dodging around his legs and using up all my health items during his beserk phase. Then I just said f'it and just charged him straight up and was surprised how different the fight was (pointlessly short).
Thanks for the tips. Just passed it a few hours ago.
cesslinger 06-30-08, 02:40 PM Fo' sho? Did you use any health items?
Nope; didn't have any. And Leadsalad is right, once I started hacking at the face the fight was over fairly quickly (at least at the Acolyte difficulty).
GrooveRite 07-02-08, 09:31 AM I'm having a hard time fighting the 2 Armadillos on chapter 12 on warrior. I can escape the first one when it blows up but the second one ALWAYS kills me even if I'm far away. I just don't get it!! Is there a trick?!?! I saw one guy on youtube who looks like he stays near him when he blows up but jumps right before the explosion. Any tips??
cesslinger 07-02-08, 11:09 AM you can stand right next to the oversized rollie pollie when they explode, just hold block. Make sure to focus on one armadillo, then the last one should be easy to deal with.
cesslinger 07-02-08, 11:10 AM Master Ninja is hard, but fun. I got to Ratetsu chapter 1 but didn't beat him yet without using a potion, I should be able to do it tonight.
mboojigga 07-02-08, 01:01 PM Master Ninja is hard, but fun. I got to Ratetsu chapter 1 but didn't beat him yet without using a potion, I should be able to do it tonight.
I am still on the first actual fight :D. My record so far is 20 seconds.
RobertR1 07-02-08, 01:09 PM Costumes are up on DLC! 200pts for each set.
beat this last week, badass game.
cesslinger 07-02-08, 02:09 PM That first encounter is a doozey. Get used to killing a group and then backtracking to a save point. Make sure you have 20000 saved up to upgrade a weapon, it is desperatley necessary. I hate to spam the Izuna drop, but I will not say that it is not a necessary technique to master. Another technique that helps is using the throw (X + A over an enemy). The wind run (X + A) combined with the throw give a lot of invincible frames. The throw also has a good chance of dismembering if you are close to a wall. These tips should help you get further with less stress from the IS ninjas.
cesslinger 07-03-08, 08:58 AM Well, I beat the first boss without using a potion. Wow, one week to pass the first chapter. I wish I had the windmill shuriken right now.
SAVholic 07-09-08, 02:04 AM Just finished the game in warior. Great game it deserves a better rating!
btw: am I the only one that thinks that this game is even harder than the first one??
RobertR1 07-09-08, 02:14 AM Just finished the game in warior. Great game it deserves a better rating!
btw: am I the only one that thinks that this game is even harder than the first one??
I'm playing through the first one now and I feel that NG2 is a much better game in every way. The first one seems a lot more frustrating and outright cheap. Not to mention very plain in comparison.
cesslinger 07-09-08, 09:11 AM I do miss the unlabored flawlessness from the first game though =(
mboojigga 07-09-08, 11:45 AM Mentor is freaking hard. What other difficulties after this one.
GrooveRite 07-09-08, 12:00 PM I do miss the unlabored flawlessness from the first game though =(
I also think that the boss battles on the first game were more memorable. They are both great games but the first one seemed more put together story wise.
cesslinger 07-09-08, 02:12 PM I also think that the boss battles on the first game were more memorable. They are both great games but the first one seemed more put together story wise.
Even stating that the first one had a good story is a longshot. The story is not the best for this series, but man is the fighting good.
mboojigga 07-09-08, 03:21 PM Even stating that the first one had a good story is a longshot. The story is not the best for this series, but man is the fighting good.
Which is why I keep getting drawn back to the game. The difficulty is crazy in this game and fun.
cesslinger 07-09-08, 03:27 PM That is correct, I died over 500 times trying to complete Mentor. I never felt frustrated though.
jonny1127 07-09-08, 04:55 PM I think the only thing that NG2 has over NGB is that it's flashier. I thought the gameplay in NGB was far more balanced, fair, technical, and less frustrating. I think that things got too chaotic and frantic in NG2 whereas in NGB the combat was smooth. I think if you only play through them once NGII may seem better but if you paly them both thoroughly it's clear that NGB is better.
Oh and there's no way that the Unlabored Flawlessness would work in NGII because unlike NGB no matter how good you are you cannot avoid damage.
cesslinger 07-09-08, 05:47 PM Sure, you can avoid as much damage as you are capable of dodging. Use the invincibility frames, they were also necessary on NG/NGB. 2 things that were crucial to winning MNM in both games, invincibility frames and also izuna drop. Really, besides the ULF, I also miss the demon solders that came inside the meteors, they would turn red when beat up alittle bit and be totally pissed off. Great fun with the dark dragon blade.
I just beat the spider boss guy for the 2nd time in the game on Warrior difficulty and am now up to the electric sword guy. I was curious about the difficulty for path of the warrior. Does it remain similar to what I have seen so far or does it get much harder. I had to fight the spider guy about 12-15 times to beat him in the 2nd round. Not sure if I am approaching an insurmountable wall of difficulty if I keep going.
GrooveRite 07-15-08, 08:27 AM Anyone? I started with Warrior so I can't tell you how much different it is from Acolyte. What I can tell you is that Warrior kicked my arse and there were a lot of baddies. Toward the end, there were some parts were I got stuck for a day or two (or three) but I would always manage to beat it and move on. Don't get discouraged, learn some moves and you'll be ok!
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