Tonights season finales of the simpsons and king of the hill were 16:9 HD only the Fox splicer system drew black bars and presented it as 4:3, it is pretty obvious from my screen captures along the top edge, I know this practice is not uncommon for Fox to do on 16:9 HD commercials including a Chilis commercial that aired during the simpsons, I guess Chilis did not want to pay the piper for 16:9 presentation or something!

The question is why would Fox not allow viewers to see the simpsons or koh in 16:9???????? :mad::confused:

Isn't that stuff at the top closed captioning data? I remember NFL Network had similar issues this past season.

No they were there in 16:9 you could see as drawn elements moved in and out of the 4:3 frame, Fox covered with bars 99% of the way up, the cc is right above that.

Just went back and looked at my recordings family guy was also 16:9 source and covered by fox splicer black bars. :mad:

No, they are still 4:3...has been discussed before.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=844190&highlight=simpsons

Is FOX now putting on a network HD bug? I DVRed the repeat of King of the Hill at 7pm and there was the usual local bug?

Definitely not 16:9 or HD. Fox always stretches the top couple lines on SD programming to fill the width of the screen. King of the Hill did air an episode or two in true HD, though it was still 4:3. Fox decided not to air any further episodes in HD. That's probably a good thing, given how much confusion already exists regarding the 16:9 SD shows.

Some affiliates are really lazy when it comes to designing a local HD bug and end up with a blue or white FOX logo styled liked the national one.

Either go full 16:9 HD or keep it the way it is now. 4:3 HD isn't much better, since it is still 4:3.

I've seen that stretched effect before on other programming. The nanny show FOX used to have did the same thing. I'm not sure why, but it's something they do.

I know what I saw it was definetly 16:9 source behind the masking, here are some more close ups, I think I even noticed when they came back from a commercial break that the first 2-3 frames were full 16:9 and then the black bars were activated by the splicer and drawn from bottom to top in the next 2 frames to mask it from the public.

Lots of channels, not just FOX, have this for folks that have little or no overscan on their HDTVs. Most people can't see it... but for those of us that can, it is just garbage data that they do not take any extra effort to mask out.

Definately NOT 16x9 being overlayed with black bars.

Tonights season finales of the simpsons and king of the hill were 16:9 HD only the Fox splicer system drew black bars and presented it as 4:3, it is pretty obvious from my screen captures along the top edge, I know this practice is not uncommon for Fox to do on 16:9 HD commercials including a Chilis commercial that aired during the simpsons, I guess Chilis did not want to pay the piper for 16:9 presentation or something!

The question is why would Fox not allow viewers to see the simpsons or koh in 16:9???????? :mad::confused:
I took the first screen cap you posted and photoshoped it to unstretch the top few lines. By unstretching the first few lines the picture content again matches up with the rest of the picture. Notice the black lines on the red and orange curtain, they only match up once unstretched.

I don't think they ever going to do native 16:9, that's 30% more drawing space... except the movie..

I don't see how HD is beneficial to animated series, there's not much you can improve, or is it?

I think it's safe to say that the current animated shows will remain 4:3 for the rest of their runs, I am curious about the new crop of primetime animated network shows coming next season: "Sit Down, Shut Up" and "The Cleveland Show" on Fox, and "The Goode Family" on ABC. I suppose it's possible since they are new productions, that they could be 16:9 from the start, although "Cleveland" is a spinoff of "Family Guy," so they may use the same animators.

Family Guy season finale was last night?!?!? My 2 DVR's didn't record it.

Family Guy season finale was last night?!?!? My 2 DVR's didn't record it.

rerun.

Family Guy finished a few weeks back now so I think there was a bit of confusion here. I highly doubt they would go 16:9 HD for one episode, especially since one of them (FG) wasn't even new.

i doubt family guy ever goes widescreen. I forget where i read it, but when seth mcfarlane was asked why the star wars episode wasn't widescreen he said he doesnt think animated comedy works the same wide, or something to that effect.

Here's a screen cap from a King of the Hill that went out in HD a while back:
[img=http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5775/snapshotj20071280001tl6.th.jpg] (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshotj20071280001tl6.jpg)

Here's a cap from the same episode in SD:
[img=http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/216/snapshotj2007225sp2.th.jpg] (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshotj2007225sp2.jpg)

Tonights season finales of the simpsons and king of the hill were 16:9 HD only the Fox splicer system drew black bars and presented it as 4:3, it is pretty obvious from my screen captures along the top edge,
This confusion has come up a dozen times here. I'm surprised Fox hasn't stopped stretching the top lines and tricking people into thinking the network is "hiding" widescreen programming for no reason.

This confusion has come up a dozen times here. I'm surprised Fox hasn't stopped stretching the top lines and tricking people into thinking the network is "hiding" widescreen programming for no reason.

Because most people that would be tricked are also the type that don't correct the overscan on their sets, so they'll never actually see it.

TI'm surprised Fox hasn't stopped stretching the top lines and tricking people into thinking the network is "hiding" widescreen programming for no reason.

They probably don't even know it's happening. It doesn't appear to be something they're doing on purpose, but rather that's simply what comes out of their upconverter. Now perhaps there are some settings they could tweak to hide that ... most upconverters have various size and crop adjustments.

I know what I saw it was definetly 16:9 source behind the masking, here are some more close ups, I think I even noticed when they came back from a commercial break that the first 2-3 frames were full 16:9 and then the black bars were activated by the splicer and drawn from bottom to top in the next 2 frames to mask it from the public.

:) the junk on top of the screen has been going on for quite a while

The Goode Family is 4:3. It is disgraceful that a show would not be in HD in 2009! For goodness sake, Sesame Street is in HD!

The show is worth a chuckle, but living in Seattle painfully close to home since I know a lot of people like that.

Rumor is that Goode Family is in HD but they decided to draw in 4:3. The ABC HD logo is displayed during the show.

The show is really Mr. Van Driesen from Beavis and Butt-head with a haircut and a family.

The show is really Mr. Van Driesen from Beavis and Butt-head with a haircut and a family.

Just like Hank Hill is Tom Anderson.

Just like Hank Hill is Tom Anderson.

But Tom Anderson was fat, bald, blind, senile and a veteran of two foreign wars!

Here's some news. The next Family Guy DVD lampooning Empire Strikes Back will be also released on Blu Ray. TVShowsonDVD.com (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Family-Guy-Something-Something-Something-Dark-Side/12511) reports that it will be presented in 1.33:1 despite being in 1080p resolution.

Not sure what this means for the television series. The episode, titled Something Something Something Dark Side, is supposed to air around Christmas. This is the final two episodes from the sixth production season.

New episodes begin on Sept. 27. They will be from the seventh production season. So if it's going HD, it'll be Sept. 27 or not until some time in the future.

Should we start speculating if the Cleaveland Show will be HD too?

well the primetime previews for it are in HD atleast...

Family Guy Goes HD in 2010

19 August, 2009

While King of the Hill and The Simpsons have already gotten the high definition treatment, with American Dad! following suit with its 5th season premiere this September, Family Guy won’t transition to the 16:9 aspect ratio until the 9th season premiere on September 26th, 2010. The series will premiere with an hour long Guess Who themed special, which we heard about at this year’s Comic Con.

This information comes from Kara Vallow’s Twitter, Family Guy executive producer.

http://www.freakinsweetnews.com/2009/08/19/family-guy-goes-hd-in-2010

Family Guy spinoff guaranteed second season

* By Tim Surette
* 05/04/09 4:52 PM

Fox orders more episodes of The Cleveland Show before the show even airs; 13 more segments due in fall 2010.

While other shows battle to get renewed after establishing a devoted fan base, a solid television track record built on years of airtime, and critical applause, Family Guy spinoff The Cleveland Show is getting another season before it even makes its debut.

Fox has ordered 13 more episodes of Cleveland, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The show is the latest animated creation from Family Guy creator and animation king Seth MacFarlane, and features Griffin family neighbor Cleveland out on his own with his family.

The original season-one order for Cleveland was for 13 episodes, and Fox quickly added nine more for a full season. The latest episode order is for an additional 13 for the 2010 fall season, which shows that Fox likes what it has seen. By placing an order now, Fox can keep production on the show uninterrupted, as animated programs require a lengthy lead time to get to air.

Looks like Sunday nights on Fox are quickly becoming Seth MacFarlane day.

http://www.tv.com/story/14493.html?tag=news_list;title;0

I saw the leaked copy of the pilot for The Cleveland Show online a few months ago. In that version of the pilot (not sure what, if anything, will change before September), the first few minutes, which take place in Quahog, RI with the Family Guy cast, were 4:3 in a 16:9 frame (black bars on the left and right). When Cleveland leaves Quahog, the show goes into the credits for The Cleveland Show, and the black bars disappear to reveal a 16:9
image. The rest of the show is 16:9.

The Cleveland Show will be in HD according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cleveland_Show

No Family Guy in 16:9 HD until fall 2010? :( But still can't wait... :D

Don't forget about the premiere of the following 2 great :cool: shows mentioned. I can't wait to see Roger (alien) in all his drunkeness in HD. :D

The Cleveland Show was pretty bad

No HD American Dad. Just The Cleveland Show.

Makes sense that it wasn't. According to Wikipedia the first six episodes of the current season will be from the fourth production season, not the fifth. That was probably the confusion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Dad!_episodes

So presumably the first HD episode wouldn't air until November sometime.

The Cleveland Show will be in HD according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cleveland_Show


It was neat the way they transferred over to HD at the beginning.

No HD American Dad. Just The Cleveland Show.

Thanks for the warning. :D

Makes sense that it wasn't. According to Wikipedia the first six episodes of the current season will be from the fourth production season, not the fifth. That was probably the confusion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Dad!_episodes

So presumably the first HD episode wouldn't air until November sometime.

Thanks Matt for the detailed guess about when the first HD episode might air. I didn't want to be all bummed not knowing.

Simpsons and The Cleveland Show - 16:9 HD
Family Guy and American Dad - 4:3 SD

I didn't think The Cleveland Show was that bad. Family Guy definitely won the night for entertainment. The Simpson and American Dad's premieres were both awful, IMHO.

Simpsons and The Cleveland Show - 16:9 HD
Family Guy and American Dad - 4:3 SD

I didn't think The Cleveland Show was that bad. Family Guy definitely won the night for entertainment. The Simpson and American Dad's premieres were both awful, IMHO.

"Shut your mouth you stuipd b***h" ;) :D

Looking forward to November for American Dad in HD.

I thought the Cleveland Show was pretty good. Family Guy was great as always. American Dad was, eh. They will all stay on my season pass.

...Fox’s The Cleveland Show opened large, and its whole animation block was strong.


...Fox has to be pleased with the series premiere of The Cleveland Show. It is the highest rated new scripted series opener so far this season among Adults 18-49, posting a 4.9/12 among Adults 18-49. It outperformed last year’s season premiere of King Of The Hill by +44% among Adults 18-49.

In the rest of Fox’s animation block, The Simpsons season premiere delivered a 4.2/12 among Adults 18-49, down from last year’s premiere (4.5/12). The season premiere of Family Guy hit a 5.2/12 among Adults 18-49 and outperformed last year’s premiere by +16% among Adults 18-49. The season opener of American Dad at 9:30p posted a 3.6/9 among Adults 18-49 and outperformed last year’s premiere by +13% among Adults 18-49


http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/09/28/tv-ratings-nbc-sunday-night-football-wins-cleveland-show-opens-large-desperate-housewives-down/28617

Looking forward to November for American Dad in HD.

I thought the Cleveland Show was pretty good. Family Guy was great as always. American Dad was, eh. They will all stay on my season pass.

I just finished American Dad. It was ok. Family Guy wasn't bad. I like the whole Quantum Leap thing. And the "cultural" references in the show. My favorite scene was the Japanese scene. And the Korea Brian reference.

EDIT 1-- In American I like what they used the golf cart for, lol. [real fast sound: " pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa."]

I just finished American Dad. It was ok. Family Guy wasn't bad. I like the whole Quantum Leap thing. And the cultural references in the show. My favorite scene was the Japanese scene. And the Korea Brian reference.

Quantum Leap?

you mean Sliders.

Stewie made a Quantum Leap reference. And the episode mixed the rules for the two shows.

To be honest, it probably would've been better as a strict Quantum Leap homage than a Sliders homage. The Sliders premise made it far too easy for the writers to phone the whole episode in, and they have no problem doing that when given the chance.

^^ While watching Family Guy, it did not don on me into the middle of the episode that Stewie was holding that, like 'Ziggy' device (Quantum Leap).

Without giving too much away, I thought it was great how they showed Brian and Stewie different forms of animation. I also loved the dog poop scene.

The Cleveland Show: .... was great (first half), until the "actual" show started, really. You guys know what I'm talking about. :)

Fox extends 'The Cleveland Show'

Network commits to animated series thru mid-2011

By MICHAEL SCHNEIDER

Fox has committed to its "Family Guy" spinoff, "The Cleveland Show," through at least mid-2011.

The network Wednesday gave a back nine order to "Cleveland's" second season, which is already under way (due to the long lead time necessary for animated series).

Fox had earlier picked up a full first season of "Cleveland," and more recently gave a greenlight to season two's first 13 episodes. Pickup now brings the show's total tally to 44 -- even though just three segs have aired so far.

Net execs were likely bullish on the fact that "Cleveland" is so far the fall's top-rated new series among adults 18-49 (beating out "NCIS: Los Angeles").

Since its Sept. 27 bow, "Cleveland" has averaged a strong 4.5 rating and 11 share among adults 18-49, and 9 million viewers overall. Show has proven to be a solid bridge between "The Simpsons," from which it's been building audience, and "Family Guy."

"I'm a bit speechless," said "Cleveland" exec producer Mike Henry, who also voices the show's lead character. "From what I can tell, being able to build on 'The Simpsons' and serving up a nice base for 'Family Guy' to build on seems to be what they were looking for."

Henry said the show's writers are already working on the ninth episode of season two -- timed for Christmas 2010. Holiday-themed episode, which will be performed at a table read today, will feature guest star Carl Reiner.

The scribe said he's actually been frustrated by watching the early episodes of "Cleveland" now hitting the air.

"I know how far the show has come," Henry said. "The stories are tighter as we go along, and the jokes are funnier. In later episodes we don't have to work as hard to establish who's who."

Meanwhile, Henry said he's putting the finishing touches on a holiday-themed single performed by Cleveland with R&B supergroup Earth, Wind and Fire. The song, "Get Your Hump on This Christmas," will be released on iTunes and sent to radio stations later this fall.

"The Cleveland Show" follows soft-spoken "Family Guy" character Cleveland Brown as he moves to Virginia with his son and reunites with his high school sweetheart, who has two unruly kids of her own.

20th Century Fox TV is behind the show, which comes from exec producers Seth MacFarlane, Mike Henry and Rich Appel. Henry supplies the voice for the lead, while other voice stars include Sanaa Lathan, Reagan Gomez-Preston, Kevin Michael Richardson and MacFarlane.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118009928.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

How did Cleveland and American Dad get in HD before Family Guy?

I believe there was a brief HD shot at Clveland's wedding in the pilot.

I wish KOTH got brought back even for a short season.

Looking forward to November for American Dad in HD.

I thought the Cleveland Show was pretty good. Family Guy was great as always. American Dad was, eh. They will all stay on my season pass.

Morning guys. I don't want to wake up my family right now by turning on the TV, but does anyone know if this past week's episode of American (AD) was in HD?

Morning guys. I don't want to wake up my family right now by turning on the TV, but does anyone know if this past week's episode of American (AD) was in HD?
:(

How many episodes were left over from last year, 5? Aren't we getting pretty close to that?

:(

How many episodes were left over from last year, 5? Aren't we getting pretty close to that?

there were more than that 'leftover' from the previous production season.

HD doesn't start until sometime early 2010 (likely the first episode in 2010)

:(

How many episodes were left over from last year, 5? Aren't we getting pretty close to that?

there were more than that 'leftover' from the previous production season.

HD doesn't start until sometime early 2010 (likely the first episode in 2010)

^^ Thanks buds.

I'm just cathing up on my AD & Fam Guy episodes. Last AD episode I saw was the one where the family was stuck on the airplane (beginning of the ep.).

And last FG episode I saw was from this past Sun. B*tch Stewie Character is the funniest FG character, EVER! :D

Roger the Alien: Some of his memorable costumes/"characters" for me are, when he was the fat black fat southern lady at the restauraunt or when he was dressed as and acting like Stan in the "airplane" ep. I mentioned.

But the funniest one when was the dictator of the foreign country. It shows Rogers true colors very well, lol.

If Wikipedia is accurate, the final episode from the fourth production season will air Dec. 13. With the BCS and NFL playoffs on Fox in January, the next new episode (and presumably the first HD episode) probably won't air until February, especially since Fox usually kicks off 24 with a two-night, four-hour event one Sunday and Monday in January.

Sunday, Jan. 10:
8:00-8:30 PM THE SIMPSONS (450th Milestone Episode)
8:30-9:30 PM THE SIMPSONS 20TH ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL: IN 3-D! ON ICE!
9:30-10:00 PM THE CLEVELAND SHOW

Sundays, beginning Jan. 31 (no change to lineup):
8:00-8:30 PM THE SIMPSONS (All-New Episodes)
8:30-9:00 PM THE CLEVELAND SHOW (All-New Episodes)
9:00-9:30 PM FAMILY GUY (All-New Episodes)
9:30-10:00 PM AMERICAN DAD (All-New Episodes)

Sunday, March 14:
8:00-8:30 PM THE SIMPSONS
8:30-9:00 PM SONS OF TUCSON (Series Premiere)
9:00-9:30 PM FAMILY GUY
9:30-10:00 PM THE CLEVELAND SHOW (Time Period Premiere)

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/390799-Fox_Sets_Midseason_Schedule.php?rssid=20535&q=simpsons

The Simpsons Movie will be on FX on 1/14.

If our episode math is right, that Jan. 31 episode of American Dad should be the first in HD.

If our episode math is right, that Jan. 31 episode of American Dad should be the first in HD.

Actually it's tonight. (although it isn't listed as such or promoted...)

If our episode math is right, that Jan. 31 episode of American Dad should be the first in HD.

Can't say it enough thanks for looking out for us AD fans.

Actually it's tonight. (although it isn't listed as such or promoted...)

Sweet! Especially if everything turns out true. Thanks so much. Now I WON'T canel the scheduled recording on my HR20-100 (due to limited space).

I hope for HD soon! I hate SD black lines!

I'm surprised at the Cleveland Show ratings! It's an ok show.

I was skeptical of the Cleveland Show at first, but it is my favorite new show of the season. It's just so raunchy and there's so many dirty jokes(the Thanksgiving episode anyone?). I love it so much. And it's half an hour earlier than Family(suck on that PTC!!)

I was skeptical of the Cleveland Show at first, but it is my favorite new show of the season. It's just so raunchy and there's so many dirty jokes(the Thanksgiving episode anyone?). I love it so much. And it's half an hour earlier than Family(suck on that PTC!!)

It stars Black characters - so the PTC likely assumes little white children aren't watching so they don't need to care. :rolleyes:

American Dad is indeed in HD.

Yeap!

We were expecting it sometime this year and had a feeling it would start Tonight.

What stuns me is how AD got HD before Family Guy which starts in the format this fall.

It's the first episode with a 5AJNxx production code.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Dad!_episodes

Yeap!

We were expecting it sometime this year and had a feeling it would start Tonight.

What stuns me is how AD got HD before Family Guy which starts in the format this fall.

It's just timing due to the production season.

So "Dad" was HD tonight. I only had access to a SDTV and I noticed the "FO" bug in the lower right corner. Guess Family Guy is the only bug free cartoon left on FOX now.

So "Dad" was HD tonight. I only had access to a SDTV and I noticed the "FO" bug in the lower right corner. Guess Family Guy is the only bug free cartoon left on FOX now.

Family Guy isn't bug free if you are watching the HD feed on an HDTV. There's a Fox bug in the pillarboxing.

I don't get this show for a while now but checked online to confirm it is indeed HD now. Just a pity the local stations over here won't be showing it for ages... and by then they will have a third SD channel thus dropping HD completey. Australian HD is an absolute joke.

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4548/americandad720pinternet.th.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4548/americandad720pinternet.jpg)

Compared to their last original airings on 12/13/09 the early Fox lineup was all up. The Simpsons tallied a 4.0 rating for adults 18-49, up 25%. The Cleveland Show was up 10% to a 3.3 rating, and Family Guy was up 3% to a 3.9 rating. Only American Dad was down, falling 10% to a 2.8 rating.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/01/04/tv-ratings-sunday-night-football-finishes-on-top-as-simpsons-housewives-return-up/37466

Show 18-49 Rating 18-49 Share Viewers Live+SD (million)

The Simpsons 4.0 10 8.65
The Cleveland Show 3.3 8 6.96
Family Guy 3.9 9 8.10
American Dad 2.8 6 5.91

The horse episode from Sunday is was amazingly brilliant greatly :cool: written epsiode. Nothing I did not like about it.

Just wanted to post this little update... unless noted otherwise, syndication prints of The Simpsons season 20 are presented in SD Pan-and-Scan only. Noticed it when our local station reran the HD episodes so far this week.

Is Simpsons 4:3 safe? The network feed is letterboxed here.

I don't think so. As the show was initially broadcast in 16:9 on the standard feed, majority of the footage was made deliberately to utilize the added space. Thus, it seems doubtful that the 4:3 safe area (as well as frame-height formatting) was ever put into consideration in the production of The Simpsons.

The Playstation video store has the currest season of FG and last season of AD in HD or so its says.

Fox has yanked the low-rated Sons of Tucson off the schedule and will just shift American Dad back into the Sunday 9:30p time slot.

Fox plans to burn off the remaining Sons of Tucson episodes this summer on Sundays at 7:30pm.

Additionally, Fox confirmed that ‘Til Death is officially dead after this season.


http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/04/05/sons-of-tucson-canceled/47392

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/04/05/sons-of-tucson-canceled/47392

Good!

:D

Good!

:D

You know... when I read that... I imagined Peter saying it in the way he said it during one of those cutaway jokes when he asked if Dylan McDermott was nice... and was told yes... and he said "Good"

:)

Instead of going HD, I wish Family Guy would spend the money on new writers.

The majority of their episodes this season have been horrible, IMHO. :(

Fox has yanked the low-rated Sons of Tucson off the schedule and will just shift American Dad back into the Sunday 9:30p time slot.

Fox plans to burn off the remaining Sons of Tucson episodes this summer on Sundays at 7:30pm.

Additionally, Fox confirmed that ‘Til Death is officially dead after this season.

ABOUT DAMN TIME!! Til Death should've died a few years ago, I think it almost got a longer run than Arrested Development. :mad: And Sons of Tucson, even though I am pissed that once again FOX is quick to pull the plug, I never even had the slightest interest in it and I'm glad AD will be returning soon.

[in a soft voice] "We need more Lemon Pledge." ;)

You mean to tell me FOX could have had new episodes of Futurama yet they went for two seasons of a turd of a show like Cleveland instead?:confused:

Woo-hoo! Homer Simpson named greatest TV character in 20 years

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – Beer-swilling, doughnut-lover Homer Simpson has been named the greatest character created for television and film in the past 20 years.

The star character of long-running U.S. cartoon series "The Simpsons" beat schoolboy wizard Harry Potter and vampire slayer Buffy to take top place in the survey for U.S. entertainment magazine Entertainment Weekly.

Simpson's creator Matt Groening said millions of people were able to identify with Homer with his catchphrase "D'oh."

"The Simpsons," broadcast in more than 90 countries, is the longest-running U.S. TV series in prime time, now in its 21st season.

"People can relate to Homer because we're all secretly propelled by desires we can't admit to," Groening was quoted as telling Entertainment Weekly.

"Homer is launching himself head-first into every single impulsive thought that occurs to him. His love of whatever...is a joy to witness."

Harry Potter, created by British author JK Rowling and played by actor Daniel Radcliffe in six films, was described as a "global icon" to take the second place in the magazine's poll.

The star of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," played by Sarah Michelle Gellar, came third in the list followed by Tony Soprano from HBO drama series "The Sopranos" and comic book villain the Joker played by late Australian actor Heath Ledger in "The Dark Knight."

Rounding out the top 10 were Rachel from "Friends," Edward Scissorhands from the movie of that name, Hannibal Lecter played by British actor Anthony Hopkins, Sarah Jessica Parker's Carrie Bradshaw from "Sex and the City," and cartoon character Spongebob Squarepants.

The list of top 100 characters was released on Monday to mark the 20th anniversary of Entertainment Weekly.

(Writing by Belinda Goldsmith, Editing by Michael Perry)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100601/tv_nm/us_simpson;_ylt=Aidev8MPl6CJu_LG8NJVUDK5GL8C;_ylu=X3oDMTJnbX NrcTlyBGFzc2V0A25tLzIwMTAwNjAxL3VzX3NpbXBzb24EcG9zAzQEc2VjA3 luX3BhZ2luYXRlX3N1bW1hcnlfbGlzdARzbGsDd29vLWhvb2hvbWVy

FOX Renews The Cleveland Show for a Third Season

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/06/10/fox-renews-the-cleveland-show-for-a-third-season/53700

FOX Renews The Cleveland Show for a Third Season

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/06/10/fox-renews-the-cleveland-show-for-a-third-season/53700

They really must be desperate for programming to renew a turd like this for two seasons, much less three.

Happy to see The Cleveland Show sticking around. Now I get to hear more of Arianna Huffington. :D

fox renews the cleveland show for a third season

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/06/10/fox-renews-the-cleveland-show-for-a-third-season/53700

yes!!! :D :D :D

I wish Cleveland would move back to Quahog. I miss him on Family Guy, he was great with the one liners on there but The Cleveland Show is just brutal. The Simpsons is even better than The Cleveland Show, and The Simpsons is a shell of it's former self. Wait, is there something worse than shell?

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091012213426/familyguy/images/a/af/Bathtub_gag.jpg
No, No, No, No, NO!

For as much as I love Family Guy... I never got into American Dad... and Cleveland Show is sometimes hard to watch.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091012213426/familyguy/images/a/af/Bathtub_gag.jpg
No, No, No, No, NO!

LOL. I loved when the horse was licking up his bath water.

The Cleveland Show has this creepy Amos & Andy vibe. The Rollo character is the worst offender.

I think perhaps some of you miss some of the humor on the Cleveland Show, but there is some brilliant stuff on there. Its almost the opposite of Family Guy where you miss some stuff if you didn't grow up in the 80s.

I guess it's over my head then. I'm the same age as MacFarlane and I think the show is total garbage. Family Guy was funny once but no longer. The only show of his worth watching these days is American Dad.

I'm pretty sure I get it it's just not funny. I don't remember a lot of brilliant moments from the Cleveland Show. But Family Guy is pretty much the funniest show ever (imo) and I love American Dad.

I guess Family Guy made a show about abortion and FOX refused to air it. However, BBC-3 had no problem showing it. They pulled no punches as usual. I have seen people think that Family Guy has been more offensive this season (I dont) and I would love to see the reaction of these same people watching Nazi sex role play

It was episode 21 I believe and can be found in the usual places now,otherwise I bet it will make the DVD and be marketed heavily as having an unseen episode.

There is a sneak peek up on iTunes of next season of Family Guy.

The reason I bring this up... the whole sneak peek is available as an HD or SD download... and it is in widescreen.

I am hoping this means we will see widescreen HD sometime this season.

There is a sneak peek up on iTunes of next season of Family Guy.

The reason I bring this up... the whole sneak peek is available as an HD or SD download... and it is in widescreen.

I am hoping this means we will see widescreen HD sometime this season.

Family Guy is HD starting with the season premier - there will be one more SD episode - the 3rd Star Wars super-sized episode which was produced before the current crop of episodes coming up.

Tonight Family Guy is in HD.

It will be great to see that opening in HD.

At last, all of Animation Dmination is in HD.

Tonight Family Guy is in HD.
And it looks really good too. Cool camera angles.

And it looks really good too. Cool camera angles.

I felt the episodes of "Family Guy" and "Cleveland Show" were lacking in laughs. However, "Family Guy" made nice use of surround sound.

And it looks really good too. Cool camera angles.

I felt the episodes of "Family Guy" and "Cleveland Show" were lacking in laughs. However, "Family Guy" made nice use of surround sound.

My wife was saying that they must have been doing that since it it the first ep of Family Guy in HD on FOX. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

I felt the episodes of "Family Guy" and "Cleveland Show" were lacking in laughs. However, "Family Guy" made nice use of surround sound.Family Guy started well, then definitely ran out of gas. But that's usually what happens when the network forces a 30-minute show to stretch an episode into an hour-long special.

Family Guy started well, then definitely ran out of gas. But that's usually what happens when the network forces a 30-minute show to stretch an episode into an hour-long special.

Considering last season's worst ever episode of a comedy show in the history of TV (the bore-fest that was Stewie and Brian locked in a bank, not funny at all and didn't even follow the Family Guy formula one bit), I wouldn't put the blame on FOX for sub-par Family Guy episodes.

I liked how family guy tonight was using most of the widescreen aspect ratio they certainly were not playing it "safe".

I found myself wondering if Family Guy was parodying "Murder by Death" which itself was a parody of serious "whodunnit" movies... or if he was parodying the concept.

Given his 1970s/1980s trends... I'm inclined to believe he was parodying the parody.

Meanwhile...

My recording of Cleveland Show was missing some scenes... but was the proper length. I'm inclined to believe it was either a network feed problem OR a local station problem. Did anyone else have some missing scenes in the middle of the episode?

Strangely (or not so much) I was so disinterested in Cleveland, that I was happy to have less of it to watch.

The Family Guy had some pretty funny parts tonight. Also, it seemed they had a higher budget and used a lot more computer generated animation. Now let me check that app on my phone...:D

Family Guy is HD starting with the season premier - there will be one more SD episode - the 3rd Star Wars super-sized episode which was produced before the current crop of episodes coming up.

Nope....that 3rd star wars parody "its a trap" is actually 16x9 HD.

The entire trilogy boxset is out on blu in december & its only 27.99 @ amazon now:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Family-Guy-Star-Wars-Trilogy-Blu-ray/16324/

I'm curious... on the Simpsons there was a sign at the airport that said "Springfirld"... and I wondered if that was a typo OR intentional misspelling to make fun of Springfield not having much of an airport.

Nope....that 3rd star wars parody "its a trap" is actually 16x9 HD.

The entire trilogy boxset is out on blu in december & its only 27.99 @ amazon now:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Family-Guy-Star-Wars-Trilogy-Blu-ray/16324/

just because they're releasing it on blu ray doesn't mean its anything more than a 4:3 upconvert.

It's production code places is a year before they started HD episodes - so I really don't expect it to be 16:9

just because they're releasing it on blu ray doesn't mean its anything more than a 4:3 upconvert.

It's production code places is a year before they started HD episodes - so I really don't expect it to be 16:9

bluray.com who is usually right says its 16x9 because they knew it would be out after the switch to HD already occured so they planned ahead.

+ i was just mentioning the trilogy blu.

edit for below:
no dont mean that -- guess we will see in december.

bluray.com who is usually right says its 16x9 because they knew it would be out after the switch to HD already occured so they planned ahead.

+ i was just mentioning the trilogy blu.

you mean this? http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Family-Guy-Its-A-Trap-Blu-ray/14107/

don't see 16:9 anywhere... I see 1080p (which means nothing since its on bluray....)

and that doesnt make sense... again - they started production before the episodes that aired last season... if they went 16:9 in this - they wouldn't go back to 4:3 for the following season. It has nothing to do with when they thought it would come out.

Bill Hunt of thedigitalbits.com said:

"per Fox's press site 1.78:1 aspect ratio anamorphic widescreen."


So its:
- a fox press release
- bill hunt
- bluray.com

versus

- you.

Good luck with that. :D

Time Net Show 18-49 Rating/Sh Viewers (Millions)
8:00 FOX The Simpsons 4.1/11 8.59
8:30 FOX Cleveland Show 3.1/8 6.65
9:00 FOX Family Guy 3.9/9 7.94
9:30 FOX American Dad (Season Premiere) 2.9/7 6.05

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/10/04/tv-ratings-simpsons-desperate-housewives-sunday-night-football-rise-csi-miami-premieres/66334

Trap looks 16x9:

http://forum.blu-ray.com/attachments/blu-ray-movies-north-america/25169d1287486192-family-guy-its-trap-new-title-blu-ray-itsatrap.jpg

Bill Hunt of thedigitalbits.com said:

"per Fox's press site 1.78:1 aspect ratio anamorphic widescreen."


So its:
- a fox press release
- bill hunt
- bluray.com

versus

- you.

Good luck with that. :D

Is it so hard to provide a link?

Every time you mention some source - I try and fail to find it.

Is it so hard to provide a link?

Yes it is because there is no link....i just sent them emails asking & thats how they responded back.

Fox Renews 'The Simpsons' For A 23rd Season

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/11/11/fox-renews-the-simpsons-for-a-23rd-season/71677

I just notice this week that KBCW in San Francisco has started airing Syndicated version of the Simpson in HD.

you mean this? http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Family-Guy-Its-A-Trap-Blu-ray/14107/

don't see 16:9 anywhere... I see 1080p (which means nothing since its on bluray....)

and that doesnt make sense... again - they started production before the episodes that aired last season... if they went 16:9 in this - they wouldn't go back to 4:3 for the following season. It has nothing to do with when they thought it would come out.

Told you trap was 16x9. :p

“American Dad” RENEWED FOR SEVENTH TERM

Emmy-nominated Animation Domination staple American Dad has been renewed for a seventh season, bringing the series through the 2012-2013 season, it was announced today by Kevin Reilly, President of Entertainment, Fox Broadcasting Company.


http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/02/23/fox-renews-american-dad-for-a-seventh-season/83513

After Sunday's episode this show NEEDS to die. Same for American dad too... Oh, why am I watching this in the first place... ? I'm REALLY BORED and have it recorded apparently.

after sunday's episode this show needs to die. Same for american dad too... Oh, why am i watching this in the first place... ? I'm really bored and have it recorded apparently.

i know have yo white shirt!

After Sunday's episode this show NEEDS to die. Same for American dad too... Oh, why am I watching this in the first place... ? I'm REALLY BORED and have it recorded apparently.
I'm guessing you are talking about FG? This week was a dud, but I thought this season has been pretty funny. The boxing episode was the best one recently imo.

The Street Fighter scene alone made the last episode of Family Guy worth watching. I never expect much from the show, so one or two good moments is fine by me.

'Family Guy' & 'The Cleveland Show' Renewed By Fox

By Bill Gorman

– May 9, 2011

Fox has renewed Family Guy for a tenth season, and has renewed The Cleveland Show for a fourth season.

The Cleveland Show is currently in its second season, and it had already been renewed for a third, so the renewals keep both on Fox through the 2012-13 season.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/05/09/family-guy-the-cleveland-show-renewed-by-fox/92016

FOX FALL 2011 PRIMETIME SCHEDULE

SUNDAY

7:00-7:30 PM The OT (NFL post-game)
7:30-8:00 PM The Cleveland Show
8:00-8:30 PM The Simpsons
8:30-9:00 PM Allen Gregory (new)
9:00-9:30 PM Family Guy
9:30-10:00 PM American Dad

FOX MIDSEASON 2012 PRIMETIME SCHEDULE

SUNDAY

7:00-7:30 PM Animation Domination (encores)
7:30-8:00 PM The Cleveland Show
8:00-8:30 PM The Simpsons
8:30-9:00 PM Napoleon Dynamite (new)
9:00-9:30 PM Family Guy
9:30-10:00 PM Bob's Burgers

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/468305-Upfronts_2011_Fox_Sets_Fall_Debuts_for_X_Factor_Terra_Nova_. php

The annual 'Treehouse of Horrors' installment of The Simpsons scored a 4.0 adults 18-49 rating up 33% from its last original, but even that wasn't enough cover for newcomer Allen Gregory which debuted with a 2.4 adults 18-49 rating following The Simpsons. Predictions were too high in the 'guess the ratings' poll with ~60% predicting better than a 2.5. Family Guy dropped 9% from its last original to 3.2 adults 18-49 rating. At 9:30, The Cleveland Show drew a 2.3 adults 18-49 rating.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/10/31/tv-ratings-sunday-once-upon-a-time-holds-up-allen-gregory-debuts-weakly/108988/

Start the countdown to Allen Gregory gets the axe. It's one of the worst animated shows I've ever seen.

Start the countdown to Allen Gregory gets the axe. It's one of the worst animated shows I've ever seen.

It was pretty bad. I'll try a couple more episodes but that was rough.

We always give 3 episodes before removing from DVR. Secret Circle just got removed off ours. It was never going to be anything other than whining kids. (with magic powers, not to improve humanity or help just wanted to open lockers and mess with others.)

Start the countdown to Allen Gregory gets the axe. It's one of the worst animated shows I've ever seen.

I wouldn't have DVRed or watched at all... but because I record so much on Sunday night, and it is between two shows I do want to watch... I probably will keep recording it.