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LarsEvan
05-22-08, 07:27 AM
I just put a Blu-Ray drive in my computer along with a new graphics card. Then I connected it to my Sony G-70.

But which will be the best resolution ?
Right now Im using 1280x960 Pixels ...

Thanks,
Lars.

MikeEby
05-22-08, 08:29 AM
I wrote a little test pattern program you can use to find out what resolution works best on your projector.

Download Here (http://www.acdnow.com/misc/testpattern.zip)

You will need the Dot net 2.0 framework installed on your PC. Just unzip the above file and run it.

http://www.acdnow.com/misc/TestPattern3.png

Hotkeys:
S – double click Shows setup dialog box or
Page Up – Increase line intensity
Page Down – Decrease line intensity
R – Toggles Red on/off
G – Toggles Green on/off
B – Toggles Blue on/off
C – Toggles Center circles on/off
N – Toggles Corner circles on/off
D – Toggles Diagonal lines on/off
Esc – Exits program

Select the resolution tab. Try to go as high as you can and still see line structure in the pattern.

I run 1920X1080p@72Hz on my NEC-XG and was able to retain some line structure in the resolution pattern.

http://www.acdnow.com/Screenshots/box1021/1on1offwith.jpg


Good Luck!
Mike

nashou66
05-22-08, 02:54 PM
I Like running 1080p and having a slight soft image ,its more film like to me. my 1x1 lines look like yours also, you can see them but in between its not black like the 2x2 lines. i guess its all personal preference. I think the Most important Character to have for a great movie experience with CRT is Proper colors(greyscale) and the deep blacks with nice shadow detail. Much more important than over all sharpness of resolution.

Athanasios

Fellenz
05-22-08, 07:57 PM
I like 1080p 60 on my G70

LarsEvan
05-23-08, 03:11 AM
How is it possible to have 1080p on the G-70 ??

Isnt the resolution 1700x1200 pixels, but a Full HD 1080p is 1920x1080 pixels...

PeriSoft
05-23-08, 12:11 PM
How is it possible to have 1080p on the G-70 ??

Isnt the resolution 1700x1200 pixels, but a Full HD 1080p is 1920x1080 pixels...

The spec resolution has little to do with actual performance, which is limited by a combination of bandwidth and phosphor resolution. You could have plenty of phosphor resolution to do 1920x1920, but not enough bandwidth, or plenty of bandwidth to do 2500x500, but nowhere near enough phosphor resolution. The trick is to find the optimum compromise along that curve - between phosphor resolution, bandwidth, and source image resolution - or to just say 'screw it' and get a projector which is way overspec'd for 1080p. ;)

LarsEvan
05-23-08, 06:24 PM
Ok, I understood what Perisoft wrote. So these resolution on CRT projectors isnt comparable with LCD Projectores native resolution. Its more what can the bandwidth do of "resolution".

MikeEby. I tried you little pattern program. Some of the pattern I can barely see the scanlines in others I can't. So that means that the projector is set correctly up ?

stefuel
05-23-08, 06:45 PM
J have a blue ray HTPC and it's called a PS 3.:D

Mark_A_W
05-26-08, 10:35 PM
J have a blue ray HTPC and it's called a PS 3.:D


And you have the choice of 1080p 60hz, 1080i 60hz, or 24p. None of which are ideal.

Great. Think I'll stick to my PC.

MikeEby
05-27-08, 10:42 PM
MikeEby. I tried you little pattern program. Some of the pattern I can barely see the scanlines in others I can't. So that means that the projector is set correctly up ?

No if you are talking about the resolution pattern, you should see some line structure in the image. The resolution pattern is a 1 line on 1 line off pattern. If you do not see lines then you are getting line overlap that is really not good, it means your picture will likely look fuzzy or not focused, I would recommend setting your resolution lower on the HTPC perhaps 1080i might be a good choice.

Mike

Ile
05-28-08, 07:39 AM
J have a blue ray HTPC and it's called a PS 3.:DHow you watch HD DVD and TV with it?;)

NO1B4ME
05-28-08, 08:44 AM
How you watch HD DVD and TV with it?;)


LOL

sycho
05-29-08, 04:09 PM
Lars/Mike. I am planning to add BD drive on my HTPC soon. What are your configurations (blu-ray drive, video card, HD-DVD software) on your HTPC? And I am little bit confused about HDCP thing. Do I need HDCP compliant device like HDfury for CRT projector to display 1080i for Blue-ray playback? I have Sony 1270q.

Chris

MikeEby
05-29-08, 04:59 PM
Lars/Mike. I am planning to add BD drive on my HTPC soon. What are your configurations (blu-ray drive, video card, HD-DVD software) on your HTPC? And I am little bit confused about HDCP thing. Do I need HDCP compliant device like HDfury for CRT projector to display 1080i for Blue-ray playback? I have Sony 1270q.

Chris

I use an ATI 3850 made by Asus. There are much cheaper ATI that perform as well for BD playback. The reason I am bias towards ATI is because to my knowledge Powerstrip for custom sync timings will not work with Nvidia based cards at this time. You do not need a Moome or HDFury, but your card must be HDCP compliant I run straight RGBHV.

Mike

sycho
05-29-08, 09:08 PM
Mike. That sounds pretty good. I have been hesitant because of the additional cost of HDCP device. Thanks.

Chris

Fellenz
05-29-08, 09:42 PM
I use a HDCP Geforce 7950gt, it works fine with powerstrip.

However I think you can use a non-HDCP card if you are running anydvd-HD

MikeEby
05-30-08, 09:13 AM
I use a HDCP Geforce 7950gt, it works fine with powerstrip.

However I think you can use a non-HDCP card if you are running anydvd-HD

That is true, I spend all day at work behind a PC, the last thing I want to do is spend more time tinkering with Anydvd-HD. Don't you have to create an ISO and mount it with Daemon tools? It's alright I guess but don't really need the trouble.

With my HTPC I treat it more like a STB pop a disk in and just watch it. Years ago I recorded a lot of Dish Network with a Hi-Pix card and Dish 5000, it seems I just don't have the time for that anymore.

This seems like a nice card for $70 After rebate. It's passive cooled too!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121237

Mike

Mark_A_W
06-01-08, 05:22 PM
No, you don't need to rip and iso with anydvd, although you can if you want.

Anydvd just cracks the disc, removing all copy protection,

After that you can:

- watch the disc on a non-HDCP compliant video card

- Rip disc (make an iso for Powersuckydvd if you have to)

- Use eac3to.exe to convert to a nice friendly .mkv file, after which you can playback with your choice of HT friendly players


Mike, if you aren't ripping the disc to .mkv, you almost certainly must be using Powersuckydvd. So how are you getting a working Gamma adjustment?

MikeEby
06-01-08, 07:33 PM
No, you don't need to rip and iso with anydvd, although you can if you want.

Anydvd just cracks the disc, removing all copy protection,

After that you can:

- watch the disc on a non-HDCP compliant video card

- Rip disc (make an iso for Powersuckydvd if you have to)

- Use eac3to.exe to convert to a nice friendly .mkv file, after which you can playback with your choice of HT friendly players


Mike, if you aren't ripping the disc to .mkv, you almost certainly must be using Powersuckydvd. So how are you getting a working Gamma adjustment?

Don't laugh...I use an external analog box for Gamma. I really don't have any trouble with PowerDVD. The lastest 7.3 patch is rock solid on my HTPC.

Mike

Mark_A_W
06-01-08, 09:42 PM
Don't laugh...I use an external analog box for Gamma. I really don't have any trouble with PowerDVD. The lastest 7.3 patch is rock solid on my HTPC.

Mike

I'm not laughing - that's the only way to get Gamma.

Powersuckydvd has two issues for me:

1: No Gamma and it ignores desktop and overlay gamma controls

2. Audio Downsampling which is almost certainly inaudible but bugs me anyway

I hope they fix it one day, then I won't have to rip and convert every disc (well, every disc I care about, some I'll watch without gamma).

LarsEvan
06-04-08, 01:32 PM
Im using a ATI 3470 and a LiteON Blu-Ray SATA, along with AnyDVD HD and PowerDVD. The only problem I had was to get this Blu-Ray SATA to work (my harddisk is SATA and there was no problem here.) But after updating the drivers the Blu-Ray also works.