Samsung PN63A650

These should be coming in the near future and I have to say they has a super low price, WOW !!

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Samsung takes stylish flat-panel design to a whole new level with the PN63A650. This gorgeous plasma HDTV features their exclusive "Touch of Color" cabinet, which blends a hint of red into the bezel edges to create a "rose black" finish that exudes elegance.

Lifelike images with true-to-life colors
This set's picture quality speaks for itself, with "Full HD" 1080p resolution, exceptional contrast, and deep black levels. Samsung's advanced color processing creates natural-looking hues and skin tones, helping the PN63A650 deliver the accurate colors plasma displays are known for. Ultra FilterBright boosts contrast in brightly lit rooms, so images don't looked washed out during daytime viewing.

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A crisp, clean HD picture — both today and tomorrow
The PN63A650's dual tuners pull in both analog and digital over-the-air broadcasts (antenna required), so adding this TV to your system means you won't need to worry about the coming analog signal shutoff in 2009. And if you're a cable TV subscriber, you can use this set's "QAM" tuner to view unscrambled digital cable channels — including local network HD channels in many areas.

A variety of connections give you plenty of viewing options
Each of the PN63A650's four HDMI inputs can handle 1080p signals, so this set is ideal for pairing with a Blu-ray player. Samsung's versatile Anynet+ HDMI connections take one-cable convenience a step further by enabling control of compatible HDMI-connected components using only the TV's remote. This is also one of Samsung's first Internet-enabled plasmas, with an Ethernet port for quick and easy access to stock quotes, weather, and brief news articles.

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Details:
63" widescreen HDTV (16:9 aspect ratio)
Touch of Color™ high-gloss "rose black" finish
built-in digital (ATSC) and analog (NTSC) tuners for over-the-air TV broadcasts (antenna required)
built-in QAM cable TV tuner receives unscrambled programs without a set-top box (cable service required)
1920 x 1080 pixels
30,000:1 contrast ratio (1,000,000:1 dynamic)
175°(H) x 175°(V) viewing angle
DNIe™ digital video processing
Natural True Color 18-bit color processing
Ultra FilterBright™ anti-glare filter
x.v.Color support
1-tuner picture-in-picture
built-in stereo speakers (15 watts x 2)
illuminated remote control
Anynet+ simplifies remote control for compatible Samsung components (HDMI-CEC)
7 A/V inputs, including:
1 composite video (side)
1 S-video (side)
2 component video (accepts signals up to 1080p)
4 HDMI v1.3 (3 rear, 1 side) — accepts signals up to 1080p
PC input: analog RGB (D-Sub 15-pin)
RF input for antenna/cable signals
Ethernet port with Infolink™ RSS feeds
optical digital audio output for Dolby® Digital
side USB port for digital photo/MP3 playback
detachable swivel stand
wall-mountable (wall bracket not included)
60-3/8"W x 36-3/4"H x 4"D
weight: 150 lbs. with stand
extra long-life panel (100,000 hours)
warranty: 1 year parts & labor — in-home service

Are you going to trade you current 63" Sammy for this new one? :cool:

Nice TV; but interesting that only a couple weeks back I was told that no new Sammy 63 was coming any time soon. Hmmm...

That’s the way the market is though, Venders find out when manufacturer’s care to tell. This was just released to us today. There is no time line as of yet when they will hit the streets. Pricing is confirmed though.

This display was on Crutchfield's website for at least 1-2 weeks now. Not to say that it was in stock though.

Chris

I happened to be at the Samsung HQ in NJ last week for a meeting and they had this set in the lobby and it was magnificent.

$2500 extra for 5" more over the 58" equals super low price?

Depends where you are getting your pricing.......on the street it is about $1000 more. 5" of screen on these size units are 25% to 30% more Real Estate. Remember the true comparision is the 58A650 not the 58A550.

$2500 extra for 5" more over the 58" equals super low price?


I'm not too sure what exactly you are comparing it to (550 or 650), but it been well publicized the MSRP for the PN63a650 is $4999.99; MSRP for the PN58A650 is $3999.99. The difference is just $1000.00 and if you're comparing it to the PN58A550, it lists for $3599.99-as mentioned earlier, check Crutchfield-they only list and sell MSRP. You might of mistaken this for the Panasonic size pricing.

Choosing from the Big Three-Pioneer is in a class by itself(partly for the KURO, but mainly for price). A lot of people will say Panasonic and Samsung are comparable with trade offs almost being equal(just like many things in life). Panasonic will always get a little more heads up though, this comes with being the top seller in a whole segment. This doesn't mean they are better, just the market leader. Just as LCD is the market leader, us in this forum will digress and say Plasma is better.

With all that being said. This is the set I've waiting for. The best bang for your buck on the market in my opinion. Once this hits the market and the street prices comes out, I'm jumping on it. Like Cleveland said earlier, we mention these inches and it doesn't sound like much, but once we factor in percentages-the disparity is huge! Also, once you go above the 50" threshold all the prices jump big time and it seems Samsung are the only ones that are somewhat based in reality as we know it.

This is the one big ticket item in our Home Theatres that we don't get to upgrade as often as other components, so this is one of those things we better get right the first time around. If you haven't experience it for yourself, but at least been reading these threads-you should ought to know-THE TV IS NEVER BIG ENOUGH!!! I have a 50" now and I wanted to upgrade, so I looked at the 58", but once I saw the pricing on the 63" and remembering how 50" was big at one time and it isn't anymore-63"er it will be!!!

Hey Cleveland keep us updated and thanks a lot:)

Well guys, these have hit the streets :D Who is going to be the first proud owner ?

Can anyone PM with pricing or availibility in Montreal, Canada.

I was set on buying the 58" this September, but this 63" is tempting.

Well guys, these have hit the streets :D Who is going to be the first proud owner ?

I think I have finally decided to purchase the Samsung PN63A650. I currently have a 65 inch Mits. DLP & I like the size so I did not want to go much smaller. I was considering the Pioneer new 60 inch model because of the over all good reviews I have been reading on the various forums mentioning the superior black levels but it is only 60 inches. Also the my wife who is an interior designer likes the TOC and thinks it would fit well with our decor. It basically came down to superior black levels vs size am I being stupid here?
Thanks,
Mike

Heck no mike you are not being stupid. There is no right or wrong answer. What do you think is the true question.

Ugh...don't tell me this!

I was all set to go with a 6020, but the only thing that bothers me is that I wanted larger than 60".

Now the 63" Samsung is available...and at a good price.

I'm sick of second thoughts :mad:

Looks like that 3" adds up to 10% screen loss :eek:

63 inch 16:9 Set 60 inch 16:9 Set
4:3 (1.33:1) NTSC mode [10.5% larger] 4:3 (1.33:1) NTSC mode
Your viewing area is 41.2 in(w) x 30.9 in(h)
Total viewing area is 1273.08 sq in.
This is the equivalent of a 51.5 inch 4:3 TV
Your viewing area is 39.2 in(w) x 29.4 in(h)
Total viewing area is 1152.48 sq in.
This is the equivalent of a 49.0 inch 4:3 TV

16:9 (1.78:1) native mode [10.3% larger] 16:9 (1.78:1) native mode
Your viewing area is 54.9 in(w) x 30.9 in(h)
Total viewing area is 1696.41 sq in.
This utilizes the full display of the 16:9 TV
Your viewing area is 52.3 in(w) x 29.4 in(h)
Total viewing area is 1537.62 sq in.
This utilizes the full display of the 16:9 TV

16:9 (1.85:1) letterbox mode [10.2% larger] 16:9 (1.85:1) letterbox mode
Your viewing area is 54.9 in(w) x 29.7 in(h)
The diagonal size is 62.4 in
Total viewing area is 1630.53 sq in.
Total area is 65.9 sq in. (3.9%) smaller than 1.78:1
Your viewing area is 52.3 in(w) x 28.3 in(h)
The diagonal size is 59.5 in
Total viewing area is 1480.09 sq in.
Total area is 57.5 sq in. (3.7%) smaller than 1.78:1

16:9 (2.35:1) letterbox mode [10.1% larger] 16:9 (2.35:1) letterbox mode
Your viewing area is 54.9 in(w) x 23.4 in(h)
The diagonal size is 59.7 in
Total viewing area is 1284.66 sq in.
Total area is 411.8 sq in. (24.3%) smaller than 1.78:1
Your viewing area is 52.3 in(w) x 22.3 in(h)
The diagonal size is 56.9 in
Total viewing area is 1166.29 sq in.
Total area is 371.3 sq in. (24.1%) smaller than 1.78:1

You're not helping! ;)

So the 63A650 has hit the streets, but the 63A760 still isn't out... :(

So the 63A650 has hit the streets, but the 63A760 still isn't out... :(

I will bet that the 6374 to 63A650 would be a big improvement in picture quality. From 63A650 to 63A760 would be an improvement, but not drastic. I could be wrong. A760 packs a ton of features.

Chris

I will bet that the 6374 to 63A650 would be a big improvement in picture quality. From 63A650 to 63A760 would be an improvement, but not drastic. I could be wrong. A760 packs a ton of features.

Chris

Time will tell if the 'ton of features' really has a lot to do with the overall video performance, using the 550/650 as a reference.

So the 63A650 has hit the streets, but the 63A760 still isn't out... :(

Chris, from what I have researched there is very little difference between the 650 & the 760 models. The 760 has pre-loaded Content Library & is also DLNA Certified thats about it. None of those features effect the displays video or audio performance. Maybe Cleveland Plasma Chris could comment. By the way Chris thanks for all that size comparison info. Per chance are you a authorized Samsung dealer?
Thanks,
Mike

Time will tell if the 'ton of features' really has a lot to do with the overall video performance, using the 550/650 as a reference.

Features don't effect picture quality. I was referring to the Wireless LinkStick Accessory, InfoLink, Day / Night Calibration Modes, and connection options that it incorporates over the A650....

Chris

Chris, from what I have researched there is very little difference between the 650 & the 760 models. The 760 has pre-loaded Content Library & is also DLNA Certified thats about it. None of those features effect the displays video or audio performance. Maybe Cleveland Plasma Chris could comment. By the way Chris thanks for all that size comparison info. Per chance are you a authorized Samsung dealer?
You bet we are an authorized dealer. These different models that are released just have different features, 98.5% of the time nothing to do with a better picture.

Features don't effect picture quality. I was referring to the Wireless LinkStick Accessory, InfoLink, Day / Night Calibration Modes, and connection options that it incorporates over the A650....

Chris

We are on the same page. I would like to see something that said the 760 had more competitive black level, although it's not bad by any means. Hopefully Samsung keeps improving their plasmas with refinements rather than blasting the marketplace with tons of different model lines like they did with LCDs.
They are certainly on the right track plasma-wise.

We are on the same page. I would like to see something that said the 760 had more competitive black level, although it's not bad by any means. Hopefully Samsung keeps improving their plasmas with refinements rather than blasting the marketplace with tons of different model lines like they did with LCDs.
They are certainly on the right track plasma-wise.

I agree. Samsung will be a big driving force of stabilizing the plasma market.

Chris

Hopefully Samsung keeps improving their plasmas with refinements rather than blasting the marketplace with tons of different model lines like they did with LCDs.
Lets see here ( all active, current Samsung 52" LCD models, they also come in 40" and 46" ):


LN52A550
LN52A630
LN52A650
LN52A750
LN52A850
LN52A950

:eek: :eek: :eek:

^^^ Ahhh, the tyranny of choice! :cool:

Nice memory Chris! It reminds me of the Panasonic PX and PZ series. More confusion on Samsung's part. That's why Pioneer's model numbers make more sense to me. "Less is More". :)

Chris

All this "Chris" stuff is getting really confusing. ;)

Combined with this 63" Samsung -vs- 60" Pioneer, it is making my head hurt. :eek:

All this "Chris" stuff is getting really confusing. ;)

Combined with this 63" Samsung -vs- 60" Pioneer, it is making my head hurt. :eek:

I will simplify...

More features, better picture adjustment, good picture go for the 63A650.
Less features, less picture adjustment, excellent picture, good processing go for the 6020FD.
More features, better picture adjustment, excellent picture, higher cost, along with patience go for the 65PZ850.

Chris

Cleveland Plasma,

Based on your new price list, has the release of the PN63A650 brought down the price of existing models, such as the PN58A650 and do you still expect the PN58A760 and PN63A760 to be released in September?

Based on your past experience, typically what % in value do these older models go down? I've been on the fence on my purchase because I'm hoping to see a price drop with these new models.

Thanks!

No price drops on anything. Just a note, Pioneer does not play pricing games. Price drops from them will be far and in between. Samsung and Panasonic drop there prices all the time.

I will simplify...

More features, better picture adjustment, good picture go for the 63A650.
Less features, less picture adjustment, excellent picture, good processing go for the 6020FD.
More features, better picture adjustment, excellent picture, higher cost, along with patience go for the 65PZ850.

Chris

Yeah...the 65PZ850 is outside my price range. If I were going to go that high I'd probably go with the PRO-151...

Probably still leaning 6020...blacks are my current motivation.

Ah but you would now loss 18% screen

65 inch 16:9 Set 60 inch 16:9 Set
4:3 (1.33:1) NTSC mode [17.6% larger] 4:3 (1.33:1) NTSC mode
Your viewing area is 42.5 in(w) x 31.9 in(h)
Total viewing area is 1355.75 sq in.
This is the equivalent of a 53.1 inch 4:3 TV
Your viewing area is 39.2 in(w) x 29.4 in(h)
Total viewing area is 1152.48 sq in.
This is the equivalent of a 49.0 inch 4:3 TV

16:9 (1.78:1) native mode [17.6% larger] 16:9 (1.78:1) native mode
Your viewing area is 56.7 in(w) x 31.9 in(h)
Total viewing area is 1808.73 sq in.
This utilizes the full display of the 16:9 TV
Your viewing area is 52.3 in(w) x 29.4 in(h)
Total viewing area is 1537.62 sq in.
This utilizes the full display of the 16:9 TV

16:9 (1.85:1) letterbox mode [17.2% larger] 16:9 (1.85:1) letterbox mode
Your viewing area is 56.7 in(w) x 30.6 in(h)
The diagonal size is 64.4 in
Total viewing area is 1735.02 sq in.
Total area is 73.7 sq in. (4.1%) smaller than 1.78:1
Your viewing area is 52.3 in(w) x 28.3 in(h)
The diagonal size is 59.5 in
Total viewing area is 1480.09 sq in.
Total area is 57.5 sq in. (3.7%) smaller than 1.78:1

16:9 (2.35:1) letterbox mode [17.2% larger] 16:9 (2.35:1) letterbox mode
Your viewing area is 56.7 in(w) x 24.1 in(h)
The diagonal size is 61.6 in
Total viewing area is 1366.47 sq in.
Total area is 442.3 sq in. (24.5%) smaller than 1.78:1
Your viewing area is 52.3 in(w) x 22.3 in(h)
The diagonal size is 56.9 in
Total viewing area is 1166.29 sq in.
Total area is 371.3 sq in. (24.1%) smaller than 1.78:1

Yeah...the 65PZ850 is outside my price range. If I were going to go that high I'd probably go with the PRO-151...

Probably still leaning 6020...blacks are my current motivation.

For around $4k the 6020FD would be my choice as well, even though the 63A650 packs tons of features and is 3" bigger. You can't go wrong with Pioneer. The 63A760 is going to be the best alternative to maybe the 151FD and 65PZ850. However, we will have to see...

Chris

Yeah...I'm on a 60" LCD right now...so it wouldn't be "losing" anything, just no gain.

Wish I could see the Samsung in person...

Sooner or later they will hit the stores in your area. Going to be in Cleveland anytime soon?

Can't say I will be. :D

Cleveland Plasma,

Side by side, do you find a big difference in the "wow" factor between the 58" and 63" screens? I know that there is a 5" difference, but sometimes the real life experience might translate to something else.

Cleveland Plasma,

Side by side, do you find a big difference in the "wow" factor between the 58" and 63" screens? I know that there is a 5" difference, but sometimes the real life experience might translate to something else.
Some say yes and others will say no. 18% of more screen may be justified as a much better experience than others.

Chris

I will simplify...

More features, better picture adjustment, good picture go for the 63A650.
Less features, less picture adjustment, excellent picture, good processing go for the 6020FD.
More features, better picture adjustment, excellent picture, higher cost, along with patience go for the 65PZ850.

Chris

I was curious as to what you are basing your assessment of the 65PZ850 on since it is not available yet. Is it based on the 50 inch model of the same series that was just released? Will this unit be in the same price range as the new Pioneer Elite Pro 151? I thought I heard some where that Pioneer sold of there plasma division to Panasonic. Is this fact? If it is would not future plasma's from Panasonic have same qualities as the Pioneer?
Thanks,
Mike

They started out-sourcing glass panels from Panasonic. Electronics, etc. are still Pioneer. Should be no difference in performance. In fact, latest models have even better contrast. Panasonic's latest models also get good scores for contrast, but they are still below Kuro.

I was curious as to what you are basing your assessment of the 65PZ850 on since it is not available yet. Is it based on the 50 inch model of the same series that was just released? Will this unit be in the same price range as the new Pioneer Elite Pro 151? I thought I heard some where that Pioneer sold of there plasma division to Panasonic. Is this fact? If it is would not future plasma's from Panasonic have same qualities as the Pioneer?
Thanks,
Mike

Mike,
Yes I thought I would add that within the stack of displays 60"+. I forgot about the 151FD. Although the PZ850 is not released yet, you can bet it will compete well with all of the displays. My guess is that that street price will be more than the 151FD. In a joint statement, the two companies said they will build a new type of panel that integrates Pioneer's Kuro technology and Panasonic's NeoPDP, which it currently uses in its Viera TVs. Panasonic will have the panels sporting the new, combined technology ready for Pioneer by the second half of 2009.
(http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/04/24/pioneer-panasonic-reach-basic-agreement-on-kuro-production-fir/)
Chris

Do you think 63" is too big if sitting 11-12 feet away? Especially since some movies are letterboxed?

Nope that would be the perfect size. More important during letterboxed material.

Has anyone seen this available in Canada yet? or if you know any Canadian Pricing from Canadian dealers, please pm me.

Has anyone seen this available in Canada yet? or if you know any Canadian Pricing from Canadian dealers, please pm me.

One thing to remember is that ALL DEALERS have to abide by MAP PRICING (Minimum Advertised Pricing). Samsung has instituted this rule that must be applied by all dealers, even Canadian dealers.

Chris

I guess I should have said, can any PM the cheapest quote they have gotten for this set from a Canadian dealer.

This is a free will posting forum with a few rules so don't sweat it. PM sent.

This has been answered (sort of), but is is really worth $1750 to move up from the 58 inch to the 63 inch model? It would be really nice to compare these two in the store or even better to compare them above my mantel, but I doubt I'll have that opportunity anytime soon.

It is all about the size and here ya go...... about 19% bigger ;) nice....on the street the price is closer at about 1 grand.

58 inch 16:9 Set 63 inch 16:9 Set
4:3 (1.33:1) NTSC mode 4:3 (1.33:1) NTSC mode [18.3% larger]
Your viewing area is 37.9 in(w) x 28.4 in(h)
Total viewing area is 1076.36 sq in.
This is the equivalent of a 47.4 inch 4:3 TV
Your viewing area is 41.2 in(w) x 30.9 in(h)
Total viewing area is 1273.08 sq in.
This is the equivalent of a 51.5 inch 4:3 TV

16:9 (1.78:1) native mode 16:9 (1.78:1) native mode [18.0% larger]
Your viewing area is 50.6 in(w) x 28.4 in(h)
Total viewing area is 1437.04 sq in.
This utilizes the full display of the 16:9 TV
Your viewing area is 54.9 in(w) x 30.9 in(h)
Total viewing area is 1696.41 sq in.
This utilizes the full display of the 16:9 TV

16:9 (1.85:1) letterbox mode 16:9 (1.85:1) letterbox mode [17.6% larger]
Your viewing area is 50.6 in(w) x 27.4 in(h)
The diagonal size is 57.5 in
Total viewing area is 1386.44 sq in.
Total area is 50.6 sq in. (3.5%) smaller than 1.78:1
Your viewing area is 54.9 in(w) x 29.7 in(h)
The diagonal size is 62.4 in
Total viewing area is 1630.53 sq in.
Total area is 65.9 sq in. (3.9%) smaller than 1.78:1

16:9 (2.35:1) letterbox mode 16:9 (2.35:1) letterbox mode [18.1% larger]
Your viewing area is 50.6 in(w) x 21.5 in(h)
The diagonal size is 55.0 in
Total viewing area is 1087.9 sq in.
Total area is 349.1 sq in. (24.3%) smaller than 1.78:1
Your viewing area is 54.9 in(w) x 23.4 in(h)
The diagonal size is 59.7 in
Total viewing area is 1284.66 sq in.
Total area is 411.8 sq in. (24.3%) smaller than 1.78:1

I am considering getting the 63a650 but I would like to know do you feel it is okay to play xbox 360 and ps3 games on this tv. In anyones opinion will there be IR. Or is it best to go with an LCD

Lets see here ( all active, current Samsung 52" LCD models, they also come in 40" and 46" ):


LN52A550
LN52A630
LN52A650
LN52A750
LN52A850
LN52A950

:eek: :eek: :eek:


You forgot:

LN52A860 /w ToC Blue

I'm writing this because of the limited information I was able to find anywhere out there from actual buyer feedback before I made my purchase of the Samsung 63" 650.

I purchased this TV a couple of weeks ago and so far I am very impressed. It is visually stunning! The colors are magnificent and very lifelike. The picture settings are very robust. I've had several people comment that it seems like you are in the scene of whatever is playing. For now I have it running directly from my Motorola cable box(Comcast, 1080i) via a high quality HDMI.

And oh, the beauty of HD sports! I had a rear projection HD set before (Mitsi 65") and this things blows it away. :D

Let me tell you that the HDMI made a noticeable difference, even for SD channels. (When the guy first delivered he hooked it up with a standard cable.) As soon as he left I made my tweaks and BAM, visual ecstasy! Very noticeable difference in the picture.

The remote is fine, has a scrolling wheel that is a bit hard to get adjusted to but certainly not a bad feature IMO.

The thing is an absolute monster to move around, my special order stand did not arrive before the TV so I have had to move the TV since the original setup and man it is heavy.

Since I have an older model Onkyo without HDMI I have not hooked up my surround yet so I'm running on sound from the TV and it's not bad, nothing like surround of course, but certainly better than I expected.

The TV gets little warm on the top of the back but nothing like I was expecting after reading a lot of forum material on the 58". So far I have not noticed one thing that concerns me in the least and I am very happy with the purchase. I'll post more as time passes to confirm things are still great. My understanding is that there are limited amounts of these out there with the recent release of the 760 model so I'm sure price drops will be forthcoming on the remaining inventories if you can find it. I paid around 10% less than MSRP.

I am new to the forum and this is my first post so please forgive me if made any mistakes in forum etiquette. I have found the information here very informative and hope my info is helpful to someone out there.

This should maybe go on a different string but I am also looking for recommendations on an AV receiver(under $1000) to complete my system. I am running Klipsch Synergy's for surround. Center C-3, Rears and new sides on the way SS-5's, Fronts SS-1's. I've read a lot of conflicting reviews on the new x06 series Onkyos. There's very little out there on the new Denon line, very little on Marantz etc. Does anyone have any recommendations? Obviously for me video processing is paramount. Thanks

This should maybe go on a different string but I am also looking for recommendations on an AV receiver(under $1000) to complete my system. I am running Klipsch Synergy's for surround. Center C-3, Rears and new sides on the way SS-5's, Fronts SS-1's. I've read a lot of conflicting reviews on the new x06 series Onkyos. There's very little out there on the new Denon line, very little on Marantz etc. Does anyone have any recommendations? Obviously for me video processing is paramount. Thanks

Considering the noted efficiency of the Klipsch..you could do well with a more upscale receiver that might not have as much peak power. I still think Onkyo is a good choice, but could not advise you on specific models. But others ..going more to a warm sounding receiver I would think should match your Klipsch well. Might check the audio segment of the forum for a more experienced opinion.

I'm very happy and not surprised by what you're getting from your Sammy rwm44.
As stated, Klipsch are very sensitive so you won't need a lot of power to drive them. As for receivers, I'm partial to Harman Kardon, NAD, and Rotel.

I'm very happy and not surprised by what you're getting from your Sammy rwm44.
As stated, Klipsch are very sensitive so you won't need a lot of power to drive them. As for receivers, I'm partial to Harman Kardon, NAD, and Rotel.

I tend to 2nd the NAD & Rotel myself for the sound. At a grand, that might be a tight fit. The Cambridge Audio 640R is another excellent choice, but pushing $1500.
HK I've had zero experience with but read they are well regarded and amps tend to give a nice warmth to the sound.

I've been a long time HK fan and I currently use two. One for home theater and one for audiophile listening nirvana :D
HK has been a long time pioneer (so to speak :D ) of criteria that is now in vogue. High current designs, ultra wide bandwidth, fast transient response to name a few major things. During the seventies when everyone else was chasing down ultra low distortion numbers and power outputs that didn't quite measure up, HK took a different path.
OK, I'm done :D:cool:

I've been a long time HK fan and I currently use two. One for home theater and one for audiophile listening nirvana :D
HK has been a long time pioneer (so to speak :D ) of criteria that is now in vogue. High current designs, ultra wide bandwidth, fast transient response to name a few major things. During the seventies when everyone else was chasing down ultra low distortion numbers and power outputs that didn't quite measure up, HK took a different path.
OK, I'm done :D:cool:

That's good info..and good knowing they are on the right path. I went with an Arcam eventually...but had a NAD receiver for several years, and was always enamored by the AQ. Although, I don't really miss it now... ;)

Just wanted to let everyone know I have had this TV for a couple months and couldn't be more pleased. It arrived in excellent condition and has zero dead pixels. With normal viewing of movies, Xbox 360 and Dish Network over the past couple months; there is no sign of burn in. This is a very bright plasma, especially in Dynamic mode, but it looks good in movie and normal modes as well. With all the different feedback regarding this TV (having read all the posts) I wanted to convey my experience with this excellent plasma.

I was wondering originally when I saw this on the big river site if it was a scam. The Samsung web site does not have this tv listed. They have the 50" and 58" TV's in the 650 plasma series. The only plasma at 63 inches I see listed is the 760 series.

I'm currently trying to decide on getting a 50 / 58 / 63 inch plasma right now and heavily leaning toward samsung. It comes down to price vs size.

Any recommended vendors? I'd be happy to use one of the AVS forum sponsors if they are competitive on price and warranty.

The 63" 650 definetely exists but has been discontinued based on the introduction of the 63" 760. You can still find the 650's out there and they are on sale but hurry before it's too late. Just checked amazon and 6 Ave Sales still have some available as an Amazon approved vendor. I couldn't be happier with mine. I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I had settled for the 58".

^^^^PN63A650 is a current model and is not discontiued. The PN63A760 is an upgraded model and is also current.


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^^^^PN63A650 is a current model and is not discontiued. The PN63A760 is an upgraded model and is also current.



I might know a place ;)

Do the 760 line only do 1080p60 or do they have a 48 or 72 mode like panny and pioneer?

jimi

Thinking about a 63a760 for my dad. I own a Panasonic 58pz850 and love it, also owen a Samsung 52a750 LCD and love it.

BUT. Dad likes a big picture and uses PIP. Which the Panny does not do. Seems a lot of the newer panels do not do this.

Can anyone confirm for me that the 63a760 really does PIP? Uses it, etc.

Thoughts against the 65pz850?

chris_rtvf

The 760 is looking as if it does not have PIP <<<Click Here>>> (http://www.samsung.com/us/system/consumer/product/2008/09/02/pn63a760t1fxza/PN63A760_spec.pdf) Is he wall mounting? The 65PZ850 does not come with its base stand.

Thanks for the link.

Yeah. Odd. I know at one time the Sammy Plasmas 550/650 had PIP listed on their initial release information. And the older Panny 700 series did PIP or actually split screen.

Does the 63/650?

wonder why it is disappearing?


chris_rtvf

I think it is a expesive feature, good way to cut costs. No PIP on the 63A650.

THe PN63A650 does do PIP, but it seems that the main screen can not be changed from the built-in tuner.

I havnt messed with it much becuase I dont care for PIP, but thats what I have found on mine.

BTW: I just got this tv last week, it is awesome. I cant pull myself away from it for more than a few minutes at a time. :D

THe PN63A650 does do PIP, but it seems that the main screen can not be changed from the built-in tuner.

I havnt messed with it much becuase I dont care for PIP, but thats what I have found on mine.

Correct. According to P. 34 of the manual:

"You can use the PIP feature to simultaneously watch the TV tuner (analog broadcasts only) and one external video source. [...] This product has one built-in tuner, which does not allow PIP to function in the same mode."

For PIP you need two tuners (or two devices). Since the 63a650 has only one tuner, your other source must be an external device (e.g., Blu-Ray player). On the 650, the "main" picture can be Component 1, Component 2, HDMI 1, HDMI 2/DVI, HDMI 3, HDMI 4 or PC. The "Sub" picture can be only the internal tuner.

If you really want true PIP, you can splurge on a second tuner, perhaps an HD tuner such as the Sammy DTB-H260F, as one of your other inputs. Seems to me, however, that the PIP capability would become useless when analog TV broadcasts go dark in February, if in fact the limitation to "analog broadcasts only" is true.

Finally, according to the 760 manual, it does indeed have PIP as well, and the description does not include the same restriction to "analog broadcasts only."

I'm bumping this back up.

Now that both models have been out a while, has anyone noticed any significant PQ / processing differences between the A760 and A650 sets. I'm noticed the pink tinged whites on 2 different A650s. I've only found 1 A760, but it did not seem to have this problem. I'm wondering if it has a fix for this, being the newer model, or I just found a particularly good one?

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oh...sorry...both pn63a650 and pn63a760

Ditto for me, zip code 07020

Just got mine Yesterday! One word: WOW! After the break in period anyone know where I can find Calbration settings for the 63A650..As a starting point. I also picked up the Samsung BD-P2550....Wonder if the Blu-Ray player can be tweaked as well? Only thing that is bumming me out, Is that for at least another 2 weeks cant really play with it as I am renovating my Apt. Opened it yesterday and tested it to make sure all was good and didn't notice anything. Whew! Can someone point me in the right direction.....Thx Alex

Wow says it all! :)

Just got mine Yesterday! One word: WOW! After the break in period anyone know where I can find Calbration settings for the 63A650..As a starting point. I also picked up the Samsung BD-P2550....Wonder if the Blu-Ray player can be tweaked as well? Only thing that is bumming me out, Is that for at least another 2 weeks cant really play with it as I am renovating my Apt. Opened it yesterday and tested it to make sure all was good and didn't notice anything. Whew! Can someone point me in the right direction.....Thx Alex

do u notice any pink hues with your set ?

Can someone please pm me for both samsung 63" models. Looking to buy soon.

Sorry 08879

do u notice any pink hues with your set ?

Was watching a hockey game today and noticed a slight pink hue. Will a ISF Calibration help with that?

I'm in NYC also.

What are your settings. Put it into movie mode, and dial down the contrast a bit. In Dynamic or standard <?> modes, the set is pushed way to red. Movie is much more neutral.

Was watching a hockey game today and noticed a slight pink hue. Will a ISF Calibration help with that?

They Samsungs just took a huge price drop.......

Was watching a hockey game today and noticed a slight pink hue. Will a ISF Calibration help with that?

Go into the Picture Options > Screen Burn Protection menu on your panel and put up the all-white screen--do you see a pink hue? If not, it might be just the source. If so, don't assume that a calibration will fix it. Return or exchange the sucker.

Just as an aside, the reason why I said it might be the source is that I was watching a hockey game once on my PN58A550 and I also thought the ice looked slightly pink. I put on the all-white screen and didn't see a slight pink hue, but after a few minutes of squinting, I thought perhaps I could see it--or perhaps not (hell, by then, I thought I was seeing pink unicorns and elephants). I then checked my Sony LCD, and guess what? The ice looked slightly pink, just like on my Samsung. I also checked my old-school Hitachi CRT and the ice looked the same way.

First post and not exceedingly technically oriented but want as breathtaking a picture as I can get. Ordered the Samsung PN63A650 and should be here sometime next week.

Three Questions:

Is there a specific setting for the break in period?

After the break in period does anyone have calibration settings understanding that ambient light will be different in every room?

Should I purchase an extended warranty beyond the 12 month manufacturer warranty period?


Thanks

I just bought a PN63A650 for my boss through Chris (Cleveland Plasma) actually via eBay (got his contact info off ebay and ordered it directly from him), and must say it was a very pleasant experience with the exception of the freight company being a bunch of bumble-tards (not Chris' fault). I highly recommend him and his service. Professional, friendly, prompt, and most importantly honest.

do u notice any pink hues with your set ?

Yes..I do see pink hue on my set. 2 vertical bars about 2-3 inches wide on both sides of the tv. Filed a service request with Samsung and a totally incompetent rep (not a tech) showed up. From screen protection menu, I chose all white setting to show him the pink hue and he said I am "not supposed to be using that function." He immediately wrote down no trouble with the set on his paperwork and at that point I escorted him out of my house.

Called samsung and spoke to a Level 2 tech over the phone and told me that white should be white with no pink hues. They have dispatched a "field tech" to diagnose the problem. Some people have had their panels replaced. Lets see where this goes....not happy at the moment.

However, if there are no large amount of whites in the picture it is just beautiful.

anil

Newegg is having a sale on these. Must add to cart to see the price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889102185&nm_mc=OTC-C173T&cm_mmc=OTC-C173T-_-Plasma-_-SAMSUNG-_-89102185

Original Price:$4,799.99


$2,299.99 With Free Shipping



Great Deal if You Don't Get The Pink Hue Problem, luckily I did not.



Just looking - Remove from Cart

Going to purchase - Keep it in my Cart

Looking to get this TV. The online user manual says: Our 57” and 63” models do not comply with VESA Specifications. Therefore, you should use our dedicated wall mount kit for this model.

For those folks that mounted this TV on to a wall, will any decent wall mount (Sanus, Peerless, etc) kit do, or did you have to buy a Samsung kit?

And, any issues mounting this on a wall with 4x2 studs? The weight of this unit concerns me.

Thanks

I have the PN63A650 mounted on the wall. The mount is made by sanus and the weight capacity is 280lbs if I am not mistaken. Make sure you mount into 3 studs (not 2) as recommended and should be no problem.

Anil