View Full Version : Who "actually" makes my TV??


Lucky28880
05-25-08, 12:59 AM
I was curious if there was a good source to look at to see what parts of a TV are made by who. For example, i know that pioneer will in the future start getting its panels from panasonic. I was wondering if anyone had an idea about other brands and the partnerships they may advertise they have and in some cases not advertise so much.

And i am not just talking about panels. If you have info on other parts that can be verified bring it up too!

tank171
05-26-08, 01:53 AM
LG makes panels for LG, Vizio, and Insignia.

dadndudes
05-26-08, 07:50 PM
China and Mexico?:D

joemama127
05-26-08, 11:22 PM
These days it is far too expensive to make every single component in-house....most CE companies will have certain parts built to their specifications by outside companies. There isn't any reason to believe those parts are inherently inferior simply because they aren't produced by Panasonic, Pioneer etc.. The only case you must be careful is from certain "assembly" companies who outsource everything and then slap their name on it (Vizio, Syntax Olevia etc..) as this can be a problem if parts are needed later on. I have heard that some companies don't even use the same suppliers for parts even during the run of a certain model....for example you could have a Vizio tv and your neighbor has the exact same model but they may contan parts from different suppliers.

EscapeVelocity
05-26-08, 11:25 PM
Dont believe the lies about Vizio offered above. In fact Vizios primary partner in Taiwan, AmTRAN, builds Samsungs too. And its major panel supplier LG is no slouch either.

wsfanatic
05-27-08, 02:25 AM
That question is actually much harder to answer than one might think. It is not a simple as what brand you have but more along the lines of which model of a certain brand. Making generalizations like above can be very misleading. Take EscapeVelocity's statement of AmTRAN, while it is true that they "assemble" under 23" Samsung TVs, most of the other Samsung models, specifically all models over 40", are made with a Samsung panel. The 37" models, however, are not. I'm not trying to bash any brand, but rather offer a more informed answer to your question.

8IronBob
05-27-08, 08:47 AM
So any 46" or 52" Samsung ToC LCD or Sony Bravia LCD would probably be manufactured in that joint venture plant that Samsung and Sony have set up, I take it. After all, it's no wonder why those larger models are higher quality.

pettit03
05-27-08, 03:08 PM
LG makes panels for LG, Vizio, and Insignia.

Just to clarify LG makes the plasma panels for Insignia. Insignia LCDs are made by a couple of others but no name that is popular aka "Hon Hon Tech" "Jiaugista"....

EscapeVelocity
05-27-08, 08:28 PM
Samsung 61 series used 2 different panels. They were both Samsung, but the early run were 10 bit panels but later production runs were 8 bit panels, with accompanying differing electronics.

Sad but true.

8IronBob
05-28-08, 12:18 AM
Samsung 61 series used 2 different panels. They were both Samsung, but the early run were 10 bit panels but later production runs were 8 bit panels, with accompanying differing electronics.

Sad but true.

Makes me wonder if the A650/750's still going to continue to use 10-bit throughout the rest of the model year.

joemama127
05-28-08, 09:54 PM
Samsung 61 series used 2 different panels. They were both Samsung, but the early run were 10 bit panels but later production runs were 8 bit panels, with accompanying differing electronics.

Sad but true.Looks like Samsung is modeling their display division after Dell.. (google "Dell panel lottery") but it really doesn't have anything to do with what the original post was asking since both parts come from Samsung. Btw..I wasn't commenting on the percieved quality of Vizio plasma/lcd's...simply the fact that Vizio has no in-house technology R&D team or manufacturing facilities....meaning they have less control over the quality of components that go in their sets. Of course, even the big names don't manufacture every little part in-house..but for example the small cooling fans on my Panasonic plasma are Panasonic branded...which inspire confidence that most everything else is as well. Most importantly though..they have direct control over making and stocking repair parts if such are needed in the future.;)

EscapeVelocity
05-28-08, 10:39 PM
Well, that post makes a lot more sense....and some good points.

However, internal R&D is often inferior to market available solutions, especially where video processing is concerned....companies that specialized in this tech for many years have products on the market.

LG acquired Zenith and its technology, notably its 8VSB tuner and transmission standard, development research, and thusly LG produced tuners which are found in most Vizios are very good. LG produces world class panel technology....check!

wsfanatic
05-29-08, 12:29 AM
While it is important not to discount good video processing, it doesn't mean much if it is coupled with an inferior panel. The companies with internal R&D do have the advantage of better quality control because they can more easily custom tailor their solutions to their products. While this doesn't always yield the best solution, more often than not it does. Olevia used the Realta chipset in their 7 series LCDs and it produced good image quality but not as good as it could have if it was coupled with a better panel.

EscapeVelocity
05-29-08, 12:38 AM
Id put a Realta HQV in the data stream and bypass Samsungs crap any and every day.

EscapeVelocity
05-29-08, 12:43 AM
It would be nice to have a Sharp or Samsung/Sony matte screen LCD panel combined with a well integrated and optimized Realta.

One can dream.

wsfanatic
05-29-08, 12:58 AM
That would be nice.

TNG
05-29-08, 10:21 AM
It would be nice to have a Sharp or Samsung/Sony matte screen LCD panel combined with a well integrated and optimized Realta.

One can dream.
You know that there are custom makers of LCD displays out there that will make a custom set from whatever screen/processor combo that you want.

The cost is high (very high), but it is possible.

By the way, the whole business about who's components go into who's sets can get tangled pretty quickly, once you get away from the basic screens. Even that is sometimes strange. Did you know that Toyota has a plant that makes LCD screens? Yes right there along with Sharp, Samsung is Toyota.

It is another joint venture with Sony and it is called ST LCD, Samsung is not the only place that Sony gets their screens from. The also buy some screens from Sharp as well and will get even more when the Sharp 10G plant is complete.

EscapeVelocity
05-29-08, 09:20 PM
The also buy some screens from Sharp as well and will get even more when the Sharp 10G plant is complete. --- TNG

Yep.

Vizio's 46" 1080p panels are all Samsung/Sony.

Vizio's 47" 1080p panels are all LG/Philips.

TNG
05-30-08, 10:15 AM
The also buy some screens from Sharp as well and will get even more when the Sharp 10G plant is complete. --- TNG
No I ment that there are people here in the US that will buy a single panel from Sharp/Sony/Samsung, and the processors you want and design a one off set just for you. Imagine getting Professional Sharp 65" panel (not the same panel put into the comsumer model) with custom designed electronics just for you.
Of course we are talking $100K to do, at least, but it is unlike anything you will find anywhere.

joemama127
05-30-08, 12:02 PM
It would be nice to have a Sharp or Samsung/Sony matte screen LCD panel combined with a well integrated and optimized Realta.

One can dream.I'm a believer in the power of HQV....I have a toshiba HD-XA2 with a HQV Reon VX (non-programmable Realta) that beats any upconverting dvd player (except for the new Oppo) for standard dvd's. However I've also learned that simply having a Reon VX onboard doesn't mean much if it isn't implemented correctly. Since the Reon can't be upgraded with firmware, you have one shot to get it right...and early high-end Blu-ray players that had the Reon didn't do nearly as well as the HD-XA2.