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recur
05-29-08, 06:23 PM
Elsewhere, Michael Carey was nice enough to post:
Hi Everybody,
I posted this in the Integra DTR-8.8 thread, but I thought I would add it here as well.

I've spend the last 24 hours testing various firmware update procedures and I think I found a cure for the power failure E2PROM ERROR message on my DTR-8.8. I'm not sure if this will work with other Integra/Onkyo models, I hope others out there can try this out and report back.
After the main unit firmware update, you get a COMPLETE message on the display, then CLEAR appears and then the unit goes into standby. I found that this doesn't completely clear the receiver, I found that network settings & internet radio stations remain intact after a firmware update... so the next thing to do is a full factory reset by pressing and holding the "VCR/DVR" button on the front panel down and then pressing the "Standby/On" button. This clears EVERYTHING!
Now, before you get too carried away with getting all your settings back to how you like them... do this.
On the front panel, press and hold the "Setup" button and press the "Enter" button. "Setup Store ?" will appear on the display. While still holding down the "Setup" button, press the "Enter" button again. You will then see "Setup Storing" on the display. I found this was the magical step that made the dreaded E2PROM ERROR go away.
Until I completed the Setup Store, virtually every time I pulled the plug on the receiver, I would get an E2PROM ERROR message upon restoration of power and my settings would vanish.
I found this only needed to be done once, right after the full factory reset. Even after changing settings on the receiver, it would still remember what I had changed, even if I didn't do the "Setup Store ?" procedure afterwards.
My theory is that the "Setup Store" somehow formats the E2PROM memory to the requirements of the newly flashed firmware.
I would be very interested to see if others plagued with the E2PROM ERROR message has any luck with the above procedure.

Michael.

I've completed a factory reset on my TX-SR875 and then power cycled the unit. Upon booting afterwards, the error is gone. If I make changes to the device configuration, say to assign a digital input, save the settings then power cycle the unit, I get the "E2PROM ERROR" error message back again.

Did this work for anyone else or have you all only just booted the unit once after doing the factory reset? I spoke to the an Onkyo service depot and they are recommending replacement of the EPROM to fix this issue. I'd love to be able to save myself this hassle though.

My receiver is on v1.07 with all DSP and HDMI upgrades at latest revision.
Ideas?

niksem
05-30-08, 12:54 AM
I got Onkyo 905. I tried to reset the settings, then save and then change the settings. I also tried reset --> change settings --> save. It still gives E2PROM error. Here is my post from another thread:

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originally had 1.01 firmware. I installed 1.05 without a problem, then 1.08, then did DSP update. It installed first two DSP parts but did not seem to update part #3. I checked DSP version and all of them were current. So I assumed that DSP#3 did not need updating.

After 1.08 install it displayed E2PROM error which dissapeared after I did the reset procedure. I thought everything is now fine. However, recently I unplugged my TV and receiver and then plugged them back in. Now, my receiver says E2PROM error again and all my output/input settings are gone (including HDMI settings). I did not had any other settings set, I assume they would be gone too. I set my settings again and unplugged the receiver again... the same thing happened. It seems like the receiver is not able to store settings after 1.08 (or maybe DSP) update when the power is off. Does anyone else have this problem?

jasgg
05-30-08, 03:35 AM
YESSSS !!!

I'm going to revert to 1.05 version to see if it gives the error, if not, I don't see where is the replacing the EEPROM will help,because it seams an programing problem.

It did, I don't have the E2PROM ERROR anymore, although I still have the 'STORE FAIL' problem.

BTW,I never use the 'unplug the mains' I simply use the ON/OFF switch on the panel.

niksem
05-30-08, 11:14 PM
I reverted to 1.05 today and everything works fine now. It stores all my settings. It seems like 1.08 update is glitchy and not as reliable as 1.05. BTW, I checked local store today and their 905 had 1.05 version.

jasgg
05-31-08, 05:14 AM
Something is bothering me ... why it works for some and for others don't.
It seams that not all of us have the same IC's/Boards inside the receiver, or, does ther order of applying the updates count for some reason?

Mine was: 1.03/1.01(main) -> 1.05 -> 1.08(error)->1.05(tests)->1.07(error)->1.05(current,prob of storing settings)

I checked the local store where I bought mine and it has the 1.04/1.01.

regards.

Hurk
05-31-08, 11:43 AM
Something is bothering me ... why it works for some and for others don't.
It seams that not all of us have the same IC's/Boards inside the receiver, or, does ther order of applying the updates count for some reason?

Mine was: 1.03/1.01(main) -> 1.05 -> 1.08(error)->1.05(tests)->1.07(error)->1.05(current,prob of storing settings)

I checked the local store where I bought mine and it has the 1.04/1.01.

regards.
I have the same issue as many. My 875 unit is fine on 1.05 but on 1.07 & 1.08 I have the E2PROM ERROR. I have tried the recommended fix. (Store Settings), doesn't seem to help. Hopefully the next update may address this issue.

Razvanel
05-31-08, 11:57 AM
although I still have the 'STORE FAIL' problem.


Please check your PM about a possible cause/fix for the 'store fail' problem.

R

garysteel
06-01-08, 05:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasgg
although I still have the 'STORE FAIL' problem.

Please check your PM about a possible cause/fix for the 'store fail' problem.

R



I too have the exact same issue and would appreciate the fix if there's one

Regards
Gary

garysteel
06-02-08, 03:21 PM
My 875 was swapped via the swaporam in the UK and left me with 1.04,

Upgrade to 1.07 >>> e2prom error
Upgrade to 1.08 >>> e2prom error
Downgrade to 1.04 no error
Upgrade to 1.05 no error
Upgrade to 1.07 >>> e2prom error
Upgrade to 1.08 >>> e2prom error
Downgrade to 1.04 no error.

That fact that 1.05 and 1.04 give no errors and 1.07/8 give errors leads me to beleive it could be the firmware files but have reached my likmit at the mo for loading settings and loosing them again, but would be interested in anyones assistance.

Regards
G

Hurk
06-02-08, 05:47 PM
My 875 was swapped via the swaporam in the UK and left me with 1.04,

Upgrade to 1.07 >>> e2prom error
Upgrade to 1.08 >>> e2prom error
Downgrade to 1.04 no error
Upgrade to 1.05 no error
Upgrade to 1.07 >>> e2prom error
Upgrade to 1.08 >>> e2prom error
Downgrade to 1.04 no error.

That fact that 1.05 and 1.04 give no errors and 1.07/8 give errors leads me to beleive it could be the firmware files but have reached my likmit at the mo for loading settings and loosing them again, but would be interested in anyones assistance.

Regards
G
The same for my 875, I am waiting for the next update, 1.09-1.10 hopefully that will solver the problem. It is curious though why the majority of others are not have the problem and I believe we are using the same firmware updates?

garysteel
06-03-08, 12:02 PM
Hurk,

I agree..something is off, unless I'm doing something completely wrong I don't understand as I use the same process to burn 1.04 & 5 with no issue.

G

Hurk
06-03-08, 05:09 PM
Elsewhere, Michael Carey was nice enough to post:


I've completed a factory reset on my TX-SR875 and then power cycled the unit. Upon booting afterwards, the error is gone. If I make changes to the device configuration, say to assign a digital input, save the settings then power cycle the unit, I get the "E2PROM ERROR" error message back again.

Did this work for anyone else or have you all only just booted the unit once after doing the factory reset? I spoke to the an Onkyo service depot and they are recommending replacement of the EPROM to fix this issue. I'd love to be able to save myself this hassle though.

My receiver is on v1.07 with all DSP and HDMI upgrades at latest revision.
Ideas?
I just had a power failer, 2minutes enough to wipe out all my settings. I was on fw 1.07, I have no gone back to fw 1.05 which doesn't give me the E2PROM. As I previously stated I will wait until next fw and hope will be fixed.

Rico2
06-07-08, 02:37 PM
Hey !!!

I appreciate you guys sharing your experience with FW 1.07(8). After bricking my 875 at FW 1.01 and absolutely not trusting my DELL I/O ports, all I needed was to hear about E2PROM ERROR. I can wait for FW 1.10 without feeling guilty about not upgrading! :D

nutthouse
06-07-08, 09:56 PM
I have been slow trying to clear the errorafter the upgrade as it didn't cause any issues. So I just installed a new Panamax power conditioner and powered up and still had the error and all my settings were gone also. Pulled out the procedure to clear that I printed out, floowed it and settings stored again (previously after upgrade they wouldn't). I have reset everything and saved and recalled several times. It has cleared up my error completely. Kudos to Michael

Was not fixed when power was removed it came back. The eeprom chip is defective....

garysteel
06-08-08, 03:21 AM
I have been slow trying to clear the errorafter the upgrade as it didn't cause any issues. So I just installed a new Panamax power conditioner and powered up and still had the error and all my settings were gone also. Pulled out the procedure to clear that I printed out, floowed it and settings stored again (previously after upgrade they wouldn't). I have reset everything and saved and recalled several times. It has cleared up my error completely. Kudos to Michael


Have you pulled out the power and left it for 5 mins and then powered up without the error ?

G

11thACR
06-20-08, 02:01 PM
I had the Eprom error when I was updating my firmware from 105 to 108. By the way I have a 905. At the same time I was updating the DSP. I noticed that the DSP upgrade had only updated the first two and not the third one. I ended up using my PS3 to do the DSP update and it changed all three and the Eprom Error went away. Not sure if this is what has happened to you but it did fix my problem. It seems that if all three DSP's are not upgraded at the same time the Eprom detects an error. I don't believe it has anything to do with the Main Firmware Update. The reason it is working well with 1.05 is because the Eprom sees the three DSP's as being OK at that point. FW 108 needs the Updated DSP's.

garysteel
06-20-08, 04:51 PM
I had the Eprom error when I was updating my firmware from 105 to 108. By the way I have a 905. At the same time I was updating the DSP. I noticed that the DSP upgrade had only updated the first two and not the third one. I ended up using my PS3 to do the DSP update and it changed all three and the Eprom Error went away. Not sure if this is what has happened to you but it did fix my problem. It seems that if all three DSP's are not upgraded at the same time the Eprom detects an error. I don't believe it has anything to do with the Main Firmware Update. The reason it is working well with 1.05 is because the Eprom sees the three DSP's as being OK at that point. FW 108 needs the Updated DSP's.

11thACR that makes perfect sense, I've tried all night since I saw your post and cannot get DSP update to install as described i.e. it completes and clears on its own...after writing the 3rd update it returns to SPDif.... and sits there until I hit the standby where it then does clear...but if I switch the main power off and on, by the second power up it''ll return with E2Prom error...this is on 1.07.

Updating with PS3 and millions of burned copies of the DSP...set it up to return to 1.04 until someone can clarify further and persue your thought...I think its very close to a solution but now I need to be able to confirm or get my 875 to reboot at the right time otherwise I'm convinced its a bum update. I also can't tore my settings I get a setting Failed.

Regards
G

recur
06-20-08, 06:40 PM
I have tried updating main FW, HDMI FW and DSP FW again and again and still no luck. I'm going to send it in for repair and see what parts they order to make it happen. If it is just an EPROM it should be able to be swapped out easily enough at home, depending on where it lives inside the chassis.

A/Vspec
06-22-08, 10:37 AM
I had the Eprom error when I was updating my firmware from 105 to 108. By the way I have a 905. At the same time I was updating the DSP. I noticed that the DSP upgrade had only updated the first two and not the third one. I ended up using my PS3 to do the DSP update and it changed all three and the Eprom Error went away. Not sure if this is what has happened to you but it did fix my problem. It seems that if all three DSP's are not upgraded at the same time the Eprom detects an error. I don't believe it has anything to do with the Main Firmware Update. The reason it is working well with 1.05 is because the Eprom sees the three DSP's as being OK at that point. FW 108 needs the Updated DSP's.


+1
I concure. I performed 3 firmware updates on 9.8's and two that did not have DSP updates had the Eprom2 error and the one 9.8 that had the DPS update did not have the error.

garysteel
07-04-08, 12:34 PM
I have tried updating main FW, HDMI FW and DSP FW again and again and still no luck. I'm going to send it in for repair and see what parts they order to make it happen. If it is just an EPROM it should be able to be swapped out easily enough at home, depending on where it lives inside the chassis.

I too have retried doing the DSP update...it updates but never clears itself. And when I try the 1.07 update I get the E2Prom error. At a loss for this.

Regards
Gary

blake686
07-06-08, 10:37 AM
I am getting this error on my 605, what does it mean? Everything still plays alright (or so it seems).

garysteel
07-06-08, 11:14 AM
I am getting this error on my 605, what does it mean? Everything still plays alright (or so it seems).

At the moment I beleive it means that if you unplug your amp from power line it will loose your settings and you'll have to redo your setup.

There has been a solution posted towards the beginning of this thread which has helped some people out, but not everyone. I for one, am still awaiting a solution or a newer firmware which will not suffer this annoying problem.

Regards
G

T/O
07-07-08, 02:38 PM
Just bought a refurb 805 from Onkyo and after hooking it up I was getting the E2 error message, I shot them an e-mail and this was their response:

Sorry, about the problem you are having suggest try doing a master reset if you still have the same problem suggest haveing the unit checked by a service center.

I did the master reset and the problem has cleared up.

garysteel
07-07-08, 02:53 PM
Just bought a refurb 805 from Onkyo and after hooking it up I was getting the E2 error message, I shot them an e-mail and this was their response:

Sorry, about the problem you are having suggest try doing a master reset if you still have the same problem suggest haveing the unit checked by a service center.

I did the master reset and the problem has cleared up.


Make sure you unplug the system then power up... and then power down using the power switch behind the flap...and switch on as that usually returns the error for me.

G

OzHDHT
07-16-08, 10:22 PM
Well I'm about 10 days or more since I upgraded my Integra 8.8 into permanent eprom error. I've been getting by through leaving my unit on. But the other night I accidently shut off my power conditioner. Back to square one for about the 4th time. The suggested fix did nothing. I was contemplating trying the DSP update again via the PS3 this time instead of XA2 on the weekend and now think I will definitely try that. Fingers crossed.

garysteel
07-17-08, 05:48 PM
I sent mine in for repair, and they confirmed the replaced the digi board.
Haven't tried it yet, still to wire up again. Will let the board know the results.

G

garysteel
07-19-08, 11:04 AM
I sent mine in for repair, and they confirmed the replaced the digi board.
Haven't tried it yet, still to wire up again. Will let the board know the results.

G

Powered Up, all Ok, no eeprom issue and sitting at 1.07.

Wll need to grow a new set of balls before I try updating to 1.08 :eek:

Prob just wait for 1.09 and go directly there. I think anyone consistently getting teh E2Prom error and have tried the fixes should wing it back for a board replacement.

Good Luck.

G

garysteel
07-20-08, 04:16 AM
Another issue I had along with the E2EPROM error was that the Storing facility would always fail..

Just tested that and it stored it no problem. I'm just wondering if theres a way to diagnose they type of problem you have i.e. E2EPROM and Setup Store Fail then main prob with the chip and get it replaced, if its just the E2EPROM and the store works then maybe the remedy mentioned earleir in the thread will work and its all good.

just a thought.

G

jasgg
07-21-08, 06:52 AM
I always have the 'store fail' with 1.07 and 1.08, but no problems with 1.05. I'm at 1.05 until new confirmed versions.

Regards.

gurkey
07-21-08, 08:14 AM
Well I'm about 10 days or more since I upgraded my Integra 8.8 into permanent eprom error. I've been getting by through leaving my unit on. But the other night I accidently shut off my power conditioner. Back to square one for about the 4th time. The suggested fix did nothing. I was contemplating trying the DSP update again via the PS3 this time instead of XA2 on the weekend and now think I will definitely try that. Fingers crossed.

Just read on another thread that he did experience the EEPROM error too.
He then reflashed with the same firmware and the problem was gone afterwards.

There is no clear picture yet if this might be a timing related problem coming from an internal software issue of the flash writing routine in combination with tolerances of those flash memory chips used.

garysteel
09-19-08, 08:54 AM
Powered Up, all Ok, no eeprom issue and sitting at 1.07.

Wll need to grow a new set of balls before I try updating to 1.08 :eek:

Prob just wait for 1.09 and go directly there. I think anyone consistently getting teh E2Prom error and have tried the fixes should wing it back for a board replacement.

Good Luck.

G

Grew my Set of Balls today and thought what the hell!

I went for the 1.08 and no problem at all...done exactly as I had previously and it worked no probs with NO errors.

Thanks again

The G

Hurk
10-16-08, 07:20 PM
My 875 is in the service centre for the E2PROM Error. They tried to re-do the f/w 1.07 however still got the error. They stated the RAM has been fried as a result of the attempt to do the f/w 1.08. They do not have the 1.08 on the Onkyo technican web site, so they believe that the 1.08 I used was corrupted and resulted in the fried RAM. They have ordered the new chip and should be done next week. I will only be able to get the 1.07 update which I believe is all we really need anyway. Stay tuned.

Hurk

A/Vspec
10-16-08, 07:36 PM
My 875 is in the service centre for the E2PROM Error. They tried to re-do the f/w 1.07 however still got the error. They stated the RAM has been fried as a result of the attempt to do the f/w 1.08. They do not have the 1.08 on the Onkyo technican web site, so they believe that the 1.08 I used was corrupted and resulted in the fried RAM. They have ordered the new chip and should be done next week. I will only be able to get the 1.07 update which I believe is all we really need anyway. Stay tuned.

Hurk

All that was needed was to upgrade the DSP. That would fix the E2PROM error.

garysteel
10-17-08, 02:08 AM
All that was needed was to upgrade the DSP. That would fix the E2PROM error.

Wish it was that easy, I've posted on here , my continued problem and done copious updates of DSP with firmware. None of it worked until the service centre replaced the 'digital board', after which everything worked as it should.

Please clarify your simple statement with context and how in your experience this is all that is needed for this frustrating issue people are suffering with!!!

G

A/Vspec
10-17-08, 09:29 AM
Please clarify your simple statement with context and how in your experience this is all that is needed for this frustrating issue people are suffering with!!!

G

Of course...

I have done several firmware updates out in the field and every single one had the dreaded "E2PROM" error after updating just the firmware. Once the DSP was updated and the unit was unplugged and reset. The "E2PROM" error went away.

This is not to say that something was not indeed defective with your unit or perhaps something went wrong during the DSP upgrade which rendered it defective and in need of replacement.

Hope this info helps someone with the "E2PROM" error.

Hurk
10-17-08, 05:45 PM
Of course...

I have done several firmware updates out in the field and every single one had the dreaded "E2PROM" error after updating just the firmware. Once the DSP was updated and the unit was unplugged and reset. The "E2PROM" error went away.

This is not to say that something was not indeed defective with your unit or perhaps something went wrong during the DSP upgrade which rendered it defective and in need of replacement.

Hope this info helps someone with the "E2PROM" error.
DSP was upgraded by myself and service centre and did not fix E2PROM error, wish it was that simple!

nutthouse
11-01-08, 06:14 PM
I also had the eeprom error. Mine was caused by the eeprom chip itself. I replaced the IC and with 1.08 already installed the error is now fixed. I posted about changing the chip in gurkeys firmware thread. Not for the faint of heart, HDMI board has to be moved out of the way and the pc board does not have good lands for the chip leads (they can easily be pulled from the board). Fixed mine though.

Gary

tmu77
11-25-08, 05:55 AM
Where do you go about getting the IC board .. can you post a link to your experiment which seemed to work?

Just thought I'd update that I've tried both, updating DSP and Firmware and neither have fixed my E2PROM error. Didn't have it initially after the upgrade but something happened last weekend, where both Foxtel went belly up and needed a replacement box and the 805 now reports this error.

EDIT:
found your post nutthouse.

I've had some luck with the clear/save/recall method in that now it doesn't give the E2PROM error everytime I power off (not standby) and restart. The save/recall method doesn't work first or second time .. sometimes I have to give 5 or more goes until save completes - then recall. But like I said, now it seems to be close to 50/50 if it gives a E2PROM error after a power-off.

I'm going to keep performing clear everytime the error comes up and then saving/recalling and changing settings etc - until that bad data is over-written or until I've had enough..

jamdoc
12-01-08, 09:14 PM
Elsewhere, Michael Carey was nice enough to post:


I've completed a factory reset on my TX-SR875 and then power cycled the unit. Upon booting afterwards, the error is gone. If I make changes to the device configuration, say to assign a digital input, save the settings then power cycle the unit, I get the "E2PROM ERROR" error message back again.

Did this work for anyone else or have you all only just booted the unit once after doing the factory reset? I spoke to the an Onkyo service depot and they are recommending replacement of the EPROM to fix this issue. I'd love to be able to save myself this hassle though.

My receiver is on v1.07 with all DSP and HDMI upgrades at latest revision.
Ideas?

I had this eprom error on my 805 and I did not do any firmware update, i just
did factory reset and saved the confi as per this post and it cleared the error.:):):):)

trolly
12-01-08, 09:20 PM
I just got back from vacation and had the power to my Panamax killed while gone...when I got home and powered up the 805 I had the EPROM error. I also did a factory reset and all was good again.

Xante
12-20-08, 12:30 PM
I notice most of you reporting this e2prom error for the 875. Well, I have an 876 unit, and exactly same error appear on this unit. I have never done any upgrade (does it exist any upgrade for the 876 yet?), my unit is as it was upon delivery.

It seems that as soon as the unit is unpowered, the error shows up, the config is lost, and the unit has to be reset (re-calibrate my speakers, re-assigning input, etc. Not very pleasant). After reset, the error message goes away, though - until next time the power is lost.

Have others experienced the same with the 876? Any fixes for this? Any help would be highly appreciated!

worfdog
12-31-08, 12:23 PM
I've had the E2PROM error twice. The first time (in August 08') I followed the recommendation of doing the reset but not doing the firmware, I figured it would be best to send and get it fixed. When I got it back it worked fine for about 4 months. Luckily, it's still under warranty from the first fix, but it cost $50 to ship to NY. I just sent it so I haven't received any feedback from NY.

Doe anyone know of a way to prevent this? a power conditioner, UPS etc... If so, anything for under $100.

Thanks.

MAN!! This receiver is high maintenance.

HiHoStevo
02-26-09, 08:46 PM
Hi Michael....... thanks to you and all the folks on this thread........

I also had the dreaded E2Prom Error... and asked about it over in the 905 thread without much response.... I had no idea there was an entire thread dedicated to this problem.

I have had the 905 for 18 months but had this happen due to a power outage while I was out of town (plugged into UPS).

Michael's procedure cleared the error...... good thing cause the closest repair center wanted to have my 905 for a "minimum" of 6 weeks.... ouch!!!

whiskey alpha
02-27-09, 10:03 AM
I just picked up my DTC 9.8 the other day and had the dealer update the latest FW. I got home and got the dreaded E2PROM error msg. So now I have to figure out how to get rid of it. I think I'll try the reset instructions from the first post and see if that works. Is that considered a master reset? or is there something else I need to do?

whiskey alpha
03-03-09, 01:13 PM
one hard reset and one program reset later and no eprom error (knock on wood)

Threxel
08-13-09, 09:49 AM
Good day,

I have an Onkyo 905 receiver and like everyone else here I get this same error. The difference is this, I had a power outage serveral weeks ago but did not see any errors. I lost all my settings and had to re-do everything. I was watching television monday morning when the receiver just shut itself off. When I turned it back on it had the dreaded e2prom error. I have not tried the reset listed here yet, but what is the problem with these receivers that all they sudden they develop this behavior? I did not upgrade anything.
I am otherwise very happy with it, but worried that I will have to reprogram the damn thing every time there is a glitch in the power stream. It is on a monster-wasteofmoney-power conditioner as is all my equipment.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

webdev511
10-01-09, 07:15 PM
Of course...

I have done several firmware updates out in the field and every single one had the dreaded "E2PROM" error after updating just the firmware. Once the DSP was updated and the unit was unplugged and reset. The "E2PROM" error went away.

This is not to say that something was not indeed defective with your unit or perhaps something went wrong during the DSP upgrade which rendered it defective and in need of replacement.

Hope this info helps someone with the "E2PROM" error.

I think the DSP might just be my problem. My 805 decodes DTS-MA, TrueHD and Dolby Digital + without issue but for some reason was choking on regular old Dolby Digital from a DVD.

I'm going to run a full reset/clear, re-update the dsp and see if that fixes the problem. I really don't want to box it up for a trip to Denver.