I've gotten it to work on some standard DVD's, but I was watching National Treasure on blu last night and couldn't get it to work.

1. Does it work on NT BD?
2. Is there anything special you need to do? (ie. hit stop before eject, etc)

From what i understand(and I could be wrong), it doesn't work on blu-rays with java in them(the cool little loading screens with graphics in them). I think it works on most, if not all DVDs.

Correct.

Yeah, if it doesn't it must be just some of the BR titles. As I do know that both Chicken Little and Underworld: Evolution both DO work that way. Power off, disconnected, ejected disk, and combination's of the 3 - all resume from last stop. A feature all parents should love....

I think if the blu-ray disc supports bookmarks then you're supposed to use that instead. The couple of discs I've noticed had the bookmark stuff in the chapters menu (I think they were 3:10 to Yuma and Resident Evil: Extinction). Anyway, look for bookmark stuff in the chapters menu and do what it says. But I don't know what to do if bookmarks aren't supported.

Can someone explain how this feature works technically? Is the TOC stored in the hard drive or something?

So do you have to hit stop first? On sDVD Fletch, it did not work when I simply hit "eject", but did if I hit "stop" first and it went back to XMB.

Has anyone else tried national treasure BD?

I have no idea what you are talking about with "Bookmarks". Where do you find that info?

I have no idea what you are talking about with "Bookmarks". Where do you find that info?

Bookmarks were mentioned on a couple BDs I watched in the chapters menu of the disc. I never used the feature but I believe they used those red, green, blue, yellow buttons (maybe not all of them). Oh, found an article that talks a bit about it:

http://www.computingsa.co.za/knowledgecentres/businessnews/article.aspx?id=744861

So do you have to hit stop first? On sDVD Fletch, it did not work when I simply hit "eject", but did if I hit "stop" first and it went back to XMB.

Has anyone else tried national treasure BD?

I have no idea what you are talking about with "Bookmarks". Where do you find that info?

I was having exactly the same problem and tried it tonight with National Treasure 2: Book of Secrets. The bookmarks didn't work. There was absolutely no reference on the disc to them but I followed the link here to the article that said to use the green and yellow buttons and they had absolutely no response. I was using a PS3 with the Sony PS3 bluetooth remote.

I find it anoying that cheap SD discs work fine but in my personal experience a majority of my BD's (at least the ones I have tried) do not. And Disney is the worst because then they have that whole BD promo reel at the beginning that they disable the ability to skip to the menu for. So every time we stop playing and resume we have about 5 minutes of junk and waiting to get through before the menus...

Well I was watching T2 on BD. I stopped about mid way through and my lil bro came in and played so VF4. When I got back home I popped the movie and it started right up where I left off.

Is this not the same thing?

I was having exactly the same problem and tried it tonight with National Treasure 2: Book of Secrets. The bookmarks didn't work. There was absolutely no reference on the disc to them but I followed the link here to the article that said to use the green and yellow buttons and they had absolutely no response. I was using a PS3 with the Sony PS3 bluetooth remote.

I find it anoying that cheap SD discs work fine but in my personal experience a majority of my BD's (at least the ones I have tried) do not. And Disney is the worst because then they have that whole BD promo reel at the beginning that they disable the ability to skip to the menu for. So every time we stop playing and resume we have about 5 minutes of junk and waiting to get through before the menus...

I don't have NT2, but if the disc has no reference to bookmarks, it may not have a bookmark feature. Note that the person in the article works for Sony. Well, guess what? She was probably talking about Sony BD-J titles, not those from other studios. There is no standard here; those colored buttons can be used for whatever the producer wants.

With the use of BD-J increasing, and how bookmarking/resume depends on the disc, I just consider BD not to have resume and that's that.

With the use of BD-J increasing, and how bookmarking/resume depends on the disc, I just consider BD not to have resume and that's that.

Yep, this is the way I feel about it also. There are very few b/d that resume for me. Most that do, are music B/D's.

So for dvd's I got it to resume play on 4 different dvd's trying out different combinations so it does remember at least 4 discs for resume play, it might have more slots for resume play but I really don't feel like testing it right now I rented a few Blu-Rays and bought some 24 seasons I got at Circuit City for half price.

anyway I also noticed doing some testing with dvd's it doesn't always work unless you quit the movie 1st I think I just shutdown the console a couple times and it didn't work or maybe I ejected before stoping playback.

That's a pretty dumb step backward in disc functionality that we are just supposed to accept that most BD's can't even do what every standard $30 DVD player lets you do with SD discs.

I'm not talking about the fancier ability to remove discs from the player and pop them in later and resume playback -- I'm talking about the basic ability to hit "stop," not eject and not turn off your player and not perform any other function, then simply hit play again and have to start over with all the promos that block the ability to skip to the menus and the over-produced menus, etc. So if you need to interrupt playback fro a while your choices are either to leave the PS3 in a state of pause indefinitely (probably not great on the device) or start-over. The middle ground that virtually every SD player has is simply gone.

That's just dumb. Does anyone know the technical reason this can't work with BD discs with Java?

It seems to me that the resume function works completely randomly for me with both BDs and DVDs For example. I was watching a DVD then ejected it, popped in another DVD for about a half hour, then went back to the first and it did not resume. It was a DVD that had two versions of the film via Seamless Branching, maybe that has something to do with that paticular one. Or is the trick that you have to stop playback before ejecting the disc. So far it's been frustrating.

I've always hit "stop" before ejecting and it has worked on every single sd-DVD I've used.

It also worked with the Chicken Little BR disk too (as I said earlier) - but haven't tried it with any of the other 10 or so I have....

That's just dumb. Does anyone know the technical reason this can't work with BD discs with Java?

The software works like an OS. Think of turning off your machine and turning it back on. Clearly none of your settings are going to be saved. To do that you'd have to use hibernate which saves the system state to the memory. This would only work if you wanted to watch the same movie over and over. Likely you don't thus it's not practical. You can search on posts from Amirm He's given a more technical explanation from a programming perspective a few times before.

The software works like an OS. Think of turning off your machine and turning it back on. Clearly none of your settings are going to be saved. To do that you'd have to use hibernate which saves the system state to the memory. This would only work if you wanted to watch the same movie over and over. Likely you don't thus it's not practical. You can search on posts from Amirm He's given a more technical explanation from a programming perspective a few times before.

But I'm not turning the system off at all. All I am doing is hitting "stop" then "play." The instant you hit stop, it has lost its place and starts the disc over, including all the pre-menu promos, etc. It has literally been almost instantly sometimes as "Stop" has been hit accidentally a few times.

SD discs save the place fine, its just BD discs -- all of them in my personal experience but I am taking the word of other posters here that it is only some of them.

But I'm not turning the system off at all. All I am doing is hitting "stop" then "play." The instant you hit stop, it has lost its place and starts the disc over, including all the pre-menu promos, etc. It has literally been almost instantly sometimes as "Stop" has been hit accidentally a few times.

SD discs save the place fine, its just BD discs -- all of them in my personal experience but I am taking the word of other posters here that it is only some of them.
I believe you. In my experience, it hasn't been consistent. From what I recall, while "Michael Creighton" (BR) resumed perfectly the next day, even after power was off, "Bucketlist" (BR) did not under the same circumstances and I was forced to endure the FBI warnings, etc.

I was forced to endure the FBI warnings, etc.

:eek: *shutter* :eek:

THE HUMANITY!!!

Sorry... I couldn't help myself :D

:eek: *shutter* :eek:

THE HUMANITY!!!

Sorry... I couldn't help myself :D:pYou got it. Of course, if you try the 'Menu' button, you get that rediculous message: 'This operation is not available here'. Funny thing but I think I deserve to be warned ONLY once. I don't remember trying to duplicate or reduplicate, retransmit etc OVERNIGHT.

On the stupid Disney discs its not just several redundant warnings and BR title shots but their entire promo reel for Disney BR discs. So you have to watch their trailer every time. I clocked it as 5 minutes to get to the place where you can start the movie. Each time. I thought it was a decent promo... once.

:pYou got it. Of course, if you try the 'Menu' button, you get that rediculous message: 'This operation is not available here'. Funny thing but I think I deserve to be warned ONLY once. I don't remember trying to duplicate or reduplicate, retransmit etc OVERNIGHT.Not like those warning do anything to stop people anyway.

I seriously can't imagine a pirater going "I'm going to rip this disc and sell it for profit! muahahahahahaha! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!" Then the FBI warning comes on and he's like "OMG I did not know that! That completely changes my mind, I'm not going to rip this disc at all!"

Not like those warning do anything to stop people anyway.

I seriously can't imagine a pirater going "I'm going to rip this disc and sell it for profit! muahahahahahaha! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!" Then the FBI warning comes on and he's like "OMG I did not know that! That completely changes my mind, I'm not going to rip this disc at all!"

It’s one of those stupid things they have to do because of the lawyers. They don't believe it will stop anyone but they want to remove a defense in court. Some defense lawyer is going to argue that their clients didn't realize they were doing anything wrong and the distributors did not exercise "reasonable efforts" to educate people about their rights. Forcing people to sit through this every time is their retort to that defense. Yet still some defense lawyer will then get 10 expert witnesses to say that "everyone tunes those out" so it was reasonable that their clients never read them or realized that it was illegal. It's all lame but a natural result of a country that completely lost the concept of personal responsibility a long time ago...

But I'm not turning the system off at all. All I am doing is hitting "stop" then "play." The instant you hit stop, it has lost its place and starts the disc over, including all the pre-menu promos, etc. It has literally been almost instantly sometimes as "Stop" has been hit accidentally a few times.

SD discs save the place fine, its just BD discs -- all of them in my personal experience but I am taking the word of other posters here that it is only some of them.

Because the software isn't allowed to "hibernate" if you hit stop on any disc authored in BD-J. Technically, it's rather simple. A disc authored in BD-J will not have the resume feature, those authored using the early tools will. In reality, a lot of the early releases and indie releases will likely give you the resume feature. Newer titles from major studios and the content going forward, will not. If you see nice fancy menus and advanced extra's that interact with the film, you can forget about having the resume feature on those films.

Because the software isn't allowed to "hibernate" if you hit stop on any disc authored in BD-J. Technically, it's rather simple. A disc authored in BD-J will not have the resume feature, those authored using the early tools will. In reality, a lot of the early releases and indie releases will likely give you the resume feature. Newer titles from major studios and the content going forward, will not. If you see nice fancy menus and advanced extra's that interact with the film, you can forget about having the resume feature on those films.

I guess they call that progress.

That always bothered me (HD DVD was the same)...I mean, resume is such a simple/basic premise that was there from day 1 from what I remember with DVD (could be wrong on that though).

Speaking of BR playback, can you turn off the confirmation message when you press stop that the PS3 displays? You know, the one where I press "stop" and it asks me if I really want to stop? I feel like my PS3 is talking down to me, going "ah ah ah....are you sure you want to stop it? Positive? Are you sure you didn't make a mistake?"

That always bothered me (HD DVD was the same)...I mean, resume is such a simple/basic premise that was there from day 1 from what I remember with DVD (could be wrong on that though).

Speaking of BR playback, can you turn off the confirmation message when you press stop that the PS3 displays? You know, the one where I press "stop" and it asks me if I really want to stop? I feel like my PS3 is talking down to me, going "ah ah ah....are you sure you want to stop it? Positive? Are you sure you didn't make a mistake?"

There is a perverse logic to the "are you sure" query since unlike simple $30 DVD players the act of stopping will lose your place in the movie and lead to an extended process to resume...

That always bothered me (HD DVD was the same)...I mean, resume is such a simple/basic premise that was there from day 1 from what I remember with DVD (could be wrong on that though).

Speaking of BR playback, can you turn off the confirmation message when you press stop that the PS3 displays? You know, the one where I press "stop" and it asks me if I really want to stop? I feel like my PS3 is talking down to me, going "ah ah ah....are you sure you want to stop it? Positive? Are you sure you didn't make a mistake?"

Are you using the Nyko BluWave or other IR dongle? The bluetooth remote just stops the movie when you press stop. The controller (and by extension, the IR dongle) doesn't have a true stop button, so it uses Circle, which brings up the black confirmation screen.

Try pressing Triangle to go to the overlay menu, then select stop (the solid square figure) and see if that stops it with one press.

Are you using the Nyko BluWave or other IR dongle? The bluetooth remote just stops the movie when you press stop. The controller (and by extension, the IR dongle) doesn't have a true stop button, so it uses Circle, which brings up the black confirmation screen.

Try pressing Triangle to go to the overlay menu, then select stop (the solid square figure) and see if that stops it with one press.

Yeah, using the Nyko, which explains it. Going to Triangle->stop would still be multiple button presses (probably more than the two or three it takes now), so not really that worth it.