Awesome stuff described in this translated article (http://www.play3-live.com/news-ps3-films-blu-ray-en-3d-entretien-avec-tdvision-8435-p2.html) by a company involved in 3D movie/game technology. It appears they are working on a PS3 version of their 3D tech, to be sent to us in a future firmware update (3D compatible HDTV required):

3D Blu-Ray, even on PS3 via a single firmware update?

An interesting technology, that decided us to interview Manuel R. Gutierrez Novelo, CEO & President of TDVision Systems. First, he explained us the technology behind the famous TDVCodec:


"We're in the process to enable the PlayStation 3 to playback 3D movies using our TDVCodec and Blu-ray discs at our R&D labs since the PS3 is enabled with the BD2.0 version. Currently we have it working on a PC in 3D and after some changes on the firmware and installing some software for the PS3 we'll be playing 3D directly form the PS3.

Movies can be either computer generated in stereoscopic 3D (Polar Express) or the U2 Concert. Those were not originally created or recorded with our technology but we just need to re-encode them. After we re-encode them with our TDVCodec in step 2 then they are ready to be seen in 3D at home where available, or in 2D where not.

The objective (and what we are talking to major studios) is to encode their existing and new 3D stereoscopic content with our TDVCodec and have the movies available in every-shop everywhere in the world since one single Blu-ray disc encoded with our format has the 2D and the 3D version and can be played back in 2D over existing 2D platforms and in 3D where the platform is available as shown in steps 4 and 5 (PC or PS3 with our firmware update and a Samsung / Mitsibishi / Kerner / TDVisor / Hundai monitor is connected)

We are working very hard on our technology lobbying, having the TDVCodec to be a standard for 3D Blu-ray movies as part of the SMPTE, MPEG, ATSC and Blu-ray organizations and we are seeking for the studios support to adopt our format since we are the only 3D-2D compatible format, all the other 3D technologies ARE NOT compatible with existing 2D infrastructures unless you acquire some expensive additional hardware, if you don't have that then you will not be able to see the 2D version of the movie, leading to double cost of mfg. by having a 2D release and a 3D release, double distribution, and they all cut the resolution by half!, we don't, we provide the best 2D and 3D experience by just having a firmware update or by using our software, that's what makes us so different and that's what has been creating all this buzz around our technology and getting the attention of Hollywood studios and Consumer Electronics manufacturers.

We have some confidential content in our labs right now, we can not disclose the titles or the names of the studios, you will see them before the end of the year and I can not disclose the names of the titles at this moment. When I get authorization for a public release of information I'll be glad to let you know.

We were demoing some impressive trailers of those movies at NAB2008 in 3D using the Samsung and our TDVisor under non-disclosure agreement, that's all I can say by now, I hope this helps.

One side note: The www.AlterSpace.us website is under construction, you will see today the previous version of our website.

The AlterSpace.us website will be a 3D stereoscopic depot or storehouse, there you will find:
- 3D videos encoded with our TDVCodec
- 3D Videogames
- 3D photographs
- 3D environments for our AlterSpace
- Our TDVSuite software downloads for PlayStation and PC: DejaView, AlterSpace, TDVCodec filters, dlls, official drivers and wrapper drivers.

All this content will be divided in Free and PayPerView."

Q & A:

P3L : In order to playback 3D movies on the PS3, will it need a firmware change and a special software, or just a firmware change?
Manuel R. : Firmware change only.

P3L : With the PS3, we'll only be able to playback 3D Blu-Ray, or 3D DVDs?
Manuel R. : Both, we have 3DBlu-ray and we have 3DDVD too with our same encoder.

P3L : To view the movie in 3D, we need a special TV. Any special glasses too?
Manuel R. : You can use the 3D TV from Samsung (both RPTV DLP or the their newer Plasma), Mitsubishi, Kerner electronics, IZ3D Monitor and Hundai. The DLP based TVs work under shutter glasses (by blocking the left and right eye alternatively) Kerner, IZ3D and Hundai use polarization glasses.

P3L : Do you have a date for the release of this technology on PS3 ? 2008, 2009,...?
Manuel R. : Coming soon in 2008 having our logo or any of the following phrases : "in 3D where available by TDVision", "in TDVision where available", "TDVReady".

WOW I can't wait for this to happen. Always loved 3D viewing.

I think you failed to emphasize that it also requires a 3d compatible TV - of which there are very few overall...

^^^ Lol, good point... I'll update the first post to emphasize that. Now the HDTV owners without 720P aren't the only early adopters that are left behind by the ever-evolving PS3 :).

I think you failed to emphasize that it also requires a 3d compatible TV - of which there are very few overall...

I was wondering what those new Plasma sets meant when they listed 3D capable. I thought I was done upgrading for a while, lol.

Ok, so now I want 120hz and 3D capabilities... one day :D


I did hear a while back that they are working on 3D version of the original Star Wars as well as some other older movies. Not sure how that is going but could be cool as long as they include the original as well on a blu-ray.

mitsubishi is also working with sony to add 3d to the ps3, because mits s coming out with a 3d blu ray player that is supposed to do both native 3d and on the fly 2dto3d conversions of 2d released from blu and dvd

Yup, you need a 3d compatible TV, and a pair of $200-300 polorized or shutter glasses.

It's going to cost you around $3000 total for a tech that works ok at best, or just doesn't work very well most of the time.

While cool, i'll obviously wait this one out until it either time for a TV upgrade, or they figure out how to make it work with older HDTV's and bring the price of the glasses way down.

I've already got a compatible Samsung (and I'm guessing a lot of others here have one too, given the popularity of the threads in the Rear Projection forum), and I'd love to have some 3d content, so I'm excited about this. I just hope it actually makes it to market.

A pair of shutter glasses are currently about $150, but I'm waiting for some real content before purchasing.

I don't want to say that the 3-D aspect was a major factor in me purchasing my Mits WD-65833 this past April (price along with a few other factors....120hz, 4 HDMI ports...etc..), but it definitely helped sway my decision over other manufactures.

Feels kinda good to know that I may have actually set myself up nicely for a future format....I actually made a smart decision, I think:)

I don't want to say that the 3-D aspect was a major factor in me purchasing my Mits WD-65833 this past April (price along with a few other factors....120hz, 4 HDMI ports...etc..), but it definitely helped sway my decision over other manufactures.

Feels kinda good to know that I may have actually set myself up nicely for a future format....I actually made a smart decision, I think:)

Well I think you are waaay ahead of the crowd; which is OK if you are enjoying being THE early adopter in your circles or striving from some extra future-proofing.

I personally like to buy stuff that is tried-and-true, and even affordable.

I think the sweet spot (price vs. value) for the current generation of video equipments is 720. That will give way to "full HD" a few years from now. I only see 3d dominating main stream probably 7-10 years from now.

Lately I find myself being reluctant to make the switch to the next gen of technology. I guess I will start waiting a generation out and just sprint for every second one... That means, going 3D 5-10 years from now, after enjoying the heck out of my current great 720 setups (plasma and LCD TV-s, front PJ...)

Anybody seen anything other than the official press release regarding the latest 'BlitzTech' implementation of 3D on the PS3 (and supposedly Xbox360)?

http://www.ps3center.net/news/1964/s...ssible-on-ps3/

My two cents, those 3D sets look like ass. My roommate has worked at CC/BB/UE for like five years and says they are terrible. They get calls all the time from customers who purchased 3D sets trying to figure out how to turn the featuers off because it's terrible, gives them headaches, is choppy, etc.

Haven't seen one, but is it even true 3d like in IMAX? or is it just pseudo-3d, ala 2d, but different layers of depth.

Anyways, funny how this has become vaporware!

I just bought a Samsung 50" 720p plasma that is compatible with this 3D tech. The Samsung 450. I'm not too excited about all of this stuff tho. I figure it's going to be niche at best. I mean, if this is really legit, then it would be cool, but I just can't see some company named "TDVision Systems" coming to this agreement with Sony. Why would Sony want to do this? To sell more Samsung and Mitsubishi TV's? That sure makes alot of sense. I think this is more along the lines of wishful thinking on TDVision systems part. They are hoping that Sony will add their technology to a new version of their firmware, but I seriously doubt it. Not until Sony adds 3D technology to their Bravias or something.

I'll wait til they are able to hook up the PS3 directly into our head and project the video through our eyes.

That's coming in FW 5.0

I don't know. If it is legitimate 3D, I could see it being used as a reason to buy a PS3 over a Wii.... or at least to help sell some combos of PS3s/ Sony 3D-ready TVs.

I'll wait til they are able to hook up the PS3 directly into our head and project the video through our eyes.

That's coming in FW 5.0

It's being worked on (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18624944.600)as we speak.

I don't know. If it is legitimate 3D, I could see it being used as a reason to buy a PS3 over a Wii.... or at least to help sell some combos of PS3s/ Sony 3D-ready TVs.
Seriously?!? THAT is your reasoning to buy a PS3 over a Wii..Heres one...PS3 actuall plays SD-DVD's....:rolleyes: nevermind BluRay. And the game graphics on a Wii.. 3D or not...

Seriously?!? THAT is your reasoning to buy a PS3 over a Wii..Heres one...PS3 actuall plays SD-DVD's....:rolleyes: nevermind BluRay. And the game graphics on a Wii.. 3D or not...

WOW.... feel free to calm down. I already own a PS3 and a Wii. I own almost 100 blu-ray discs. SD-DVD sucks. I wouldn't use SD-DVD playback as a reason to buy anything.

I guess I could have worded my original statement better.

There are people out there with neither a PS3 nor a Wii who are looking for a new/ different gaming experience than what has been offered for about the past twenty years. The Wii offers that and is outselling the PS3. Because this 3D technology would be available for the PS3 (and Xbox360) and not the Wii, it could be another selling point for the PS3 to someone who has neither the PS3 nor the Wii but is looking for a "different" gaming experience. That's all I meant. When you're trailing in sales to something, it doesn't hurt to have some innovative functionality added.

Polarisation glasses aren't expensive at all, only around $10 a piece if that. The added immersive provided from 3D will be nice

WOW.... feel free to calm down. I already own a PS3 and a Wii. I own almost 100 blu-ray discs. SD-DVD sucks. I wouldn't use SD-DVD playback as a reason to buy anything.

I guess I could have worded my original statement better.

There are people out there with neither a PS3 nor a Wii who are looking for a new/ different gaming experience than what has been offered for about the past twenty years. The Wii offers that and is outselling the PS3. Because this 3D technology would be available for the PS3 (and Xbox360) and not the Wii, it could be another selling point for the PS3 to someone who has neither the PS3 nor the Wii but is looking for a "different" gaming experience. That's all I meant. When you're trailing in sales to something, it doesn't hurt to have some innovative functionality added.

Im calm I just cannot see the logic, or how you are comparing the Wii to the PS3 and 360. This topic has been beat to death. The Wii is not going for the same people the 360 and PS3 is. It's very clear to see if you look at what the PS3/360 are capable of in terms of HD graphics game play and Home Media HD play back etc.... The Wii has none of those. (it cant even play a SD-DVD for crying out loud) So adding 3D into an already VERY lop-sided comparision boggles my mind.

I don't know. If it is legitimate 3D, I could see it being used as a reason to buy a PS3 over a Wii.... or at least to help sell some combos of PS3s/ Sony 3D-ready TVs.



The only problem is, Sony doesn't have any 3D-Ready TV's that I'm aware of. The way I understand it, getting LCD technology to display a 3D image is way too freaking expensive of a proposition right now. It's significantly easier to do with DLP, and although less easier than DLP, 3D technology is still much easier to implement on Plasma.

Sony is pretty much dedicated to LCD (and OLED) as display mediums, so I don't think they have any 3D Ready models on the market. They are probably investigating it with OLED, but I'm guessing that's a good 10 to 15 years away.


Polarisation glasses aren't expensive at all, only around $10 a piece if that. The added immersive provided from 3D will be nice


I've heard the "legit" ones are more like $100 ish. Slightly over $100 each, or so. Which still isn't that bad if it really works. You figure you buy them once, and you can use them for 10 years or so. The only downside, is that you would need to buy one for each member of your family. For example, if you have a family of four, and they are all sitting down ready to watch the 3D version of Polar Express, then all 4 of them would need the glasses. Not exactly cheap to be buying 4 of them at $100 per pop.

The real 3D glasses need an emitter to work properly. Here is a 2 pack you guys can look at regarding the technical needs.

http://www.i-glassesstore.com/dlp3d-bundl-adv.html