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dcowboy7
06-05-08, 09:22 AM
10:00pm -HD -13 Episode series.

7/31 Episode 8:
"Skin & Bones"
A cattle herder's family notices that he has changed when he returns after being lost in the woods for days.

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7/24 Episode 7:
"Community"
A young couple find a dark side to their perfect house in the perfect neighborhood.

7/17 Episode 6:
"New Year's Day"
A young woman awakens in a post-apocalyptic world overrun by zombies.

7/10 (off week)

7/03 Episode 5:
"Eater"
Nothing is as it seems when a rookie cop is assigned to watch over a serial killer known as The Eater.

6/26 Episode 4:
"In Sickness and in Health"
A bride receives a mysterious note on her wedding day, warning her that she is about to wed a serial killer.

6/19 Episode 3:
"Family Man"
A prisoner must protect his family when he inadvertently switches bodies with a serial killer after a near-death experience.

6/12 Episode 2:
"Spooked"
A Private Investigator (Heroes' Eric Roberts) whose skeletons start to come out of the closet when he stakeouts a haunted house.

6/05 Episode 1:
"The Sacrifice"
Four criminals find themselves stranded in an old, snow-covered fort where three seductive sirens reside.

DrLar
06-05-08, 09:29 AM
Sounds very interesting, HD right? (hopefully not 16:9 SD)..

I never imagine that concept of sirens in winter and on a fort.... good one

TVOD
06-05-08, 02:36 PM
TitanTV shows it as HD. Not that they are always correct but they seem to error in the opposite direction.

nickdawg
06-05-08, 02:51 PM
Will this show be subject to the ad bug and the "ALL NEW" bug in the upper left corner? It is a new show. But will NBC trash (what I assume is) a dark, horror movie type show with bright, flashy bugs and snipes?

dan_o_00
06-05-08, 10:05 PM
They have some ad for Nashville Star or something at the bottom. Really annoying. And is that Serj Tankian in the into?

nickdawg
06-05-08, 10:08 PM
Except for that huge popup for "Celebrity Circus"(puking), the on screen bugs have been "tasteful". The ad bug seems smaller and the "ALL NEW" from LCS and AG last week is not on.

dan_o_00
06-05-08, 10:21 PM
Great now it just went to SD because of tornado watches and flood warnings...

icemannyr
06-05-08, 10:23 PM
WNBC-DT NYC FIOS TV

PQ is good and at least there is no all new on screen.

Kal Rubinson
06-05-08, 10:26 PM
Trash.

nickdawg
06-05-08, 10:28 PM
I can't believe they are letterboxing this for SD, considering the bug is 4:3 safe. Checked it out, looks strange with the bug in the "center" of the letterboxed picture.

Picture and sound quality is great on Time Warner.

ralphyboy
06-05-08, 11:56 PM
was the show any good?

VisionOn
06-06-08, 12:40 AM
nothing says fear like ... "CELEBRITY CIRCUS!" :rolleyes:

and the constant reminder for Nashville Star.

One more show with potential made laughable by NBC and their visual junk. After the first five minutes and hte first pop-up I just made this background filler. First time I've watched NBC since My Name is Earl and I won't be watching next week.

Plus the audio here was terrible. The dialog mix had a bad echo.

Should have been on HBO. Cinematic quality is wasted on the networks now.

MSmith83
06-06-08, 12:44 AM
I thought "The Sacrifice" was a bit beyond my admittedly low expectations. There were no surprises; I pretty much always knew what was coming next. I was afraid that effective gore content would be dramatically toned down for this series since it's airing on NBC, but it appears that the restrictions won't be too tight. Anyway, next week's episode looks like it could be a winner.

nickdawg
06-06-08, 12:49 AM
Still beats "Swingtown" on CBS. Looking forward to this show next week.

Anifan
06-06-08, 01:02 AM
I actually ended up enjoying this episode quite a bit. Much more than I expected too anyway. It was certainly much better than that awful miniseries TNT did a couple years ago based Stephen King short stories. The storyline was definitely predictable, but it was a refreshing change of pace from the usual network series. I haven't seen things like this on television in a while. I was a little surprised how little it was toned down, it has by no means a shocking level of gore, but they at least push it a little bit. Unlike most primetime network shows, this is something I really wouldn't let small children watch. Considering every episode will be different, with different directors and stories, they will likely be very hit or miss. But I'm actually kind of looking forward to having something new and a bit different on Thursdays this summer.

ChadCronin
06-06-08, 02:06 AM
I enjoyed the episode too. For a while I forgot it was on NBC and was expecting some good stuff, then I remembered when commercials came. I hate the bug. It was white and who cares about Nashville Star or whatever. Then after each break they did that animated snipe for it and one time for the circus crap. I was watching it with my mom and for the first time the snipes bothered her. They always did them right after commercial and they would be in the way of the snow. Also in one scene this guy is hanging upside down and his head is down where the Nashville star bug is. He was lifting his head out of it a bunch and screaming. I started laughing since I was seeing him trying to escape the evil bug on the screen. As he was dying at the end I half expected him to say, before I die I wanted you to know that Nashville star premieres at 9, 8 central on Monday. I'm so expecting them to start writing in more advertising into shows. I started renting way more movies now to escape all this annoyingness that takes away from shows like this. I really did like Masters of Horror and so I'll take this series over nothing. Looking forward to next week as well.

nickdawg
06-06-08, 02:13 AM
Also in one scene this guy is hanging upside down and his head is down where the Nashville star bug is. He was lifting his head out of it a bunch and screaming. I started laughing since I was seeing him trying to escape the evil bug on the screen. As he was dying at the end I half expected him to say, before I die I wanted you to know that Nashville star premieres at 9, 8 central on Monday. I'm so expecting them to start writing in more advertising into shows. I started renting way more movies now to escape all this annoyingness that takes away from shows like this. I really did like Masters of Horror and so I'll take this series over nothing. Looking forward to next week as well.

hahahahaha Maybe next week when someone is screaming another character will ask, "What happened? See a ghost or monster?" The screamer will respond: "No, it's Monday night and I'm gonna miss Nashville Star at 8pm on NBC if we don't escape this dungeon!" :D:D

HDTVChallenged
06-06-08, 02:34 AM
The problem with this type of show on network TV is that all the "tension" evaporates instantly at the commercial break ... DVR is a must. :)

DrLar
06-06-08, 09:11 AM
nothing says fear like ... "CELEBRITY CIRCUS!" :rolleyes:

and the constant reminder for Nashville Star.


Plus the audio here was terrible. The dialog mix had a bad echo.



100% agreed, I thought it was my local OTA repeater at fault, it seems the source material was the one with that bad audio, echo all over, the PQ was good.

The show started very slow, gained some momentum in the las 15 mins or so, they should start the "action" a bit sooner.

Only one question, what the stew was made of? (I'm guessing H)

Along some other things of why sewing one guy's mouth and stake thru the heart and stuff if they knew their vampire didn't go out those walls

optivity
06-06-08, 09:20 AM
I saw this episode last night and thought it was pretty good, of course this isn't saying much versus most of what else is on not-so-prime-time network TV.

Any chance the series will be renewed this Fall?

DrLar
06-06-08, 09:27 AM
I'm betting the NBA finals robbed a large part of the ratings, not good pairing it against it, I'm guessing a 3.5 or so in ratings at best. Mountain time viewers caught the game half teim break when the show started.

And I thought it was about sirens, nice deception there.. LOL

Bluto17
06-06-08, 09:39 AM
And is that Serj Tankian in the into?

If that wasn't him, that was one hell of a knockoff.

As far as the specific episode is concerned, I thought it was somewhat boring and predictable. But I will continue to watch. I know anthology episodes can be hit-and-miss.

Update: It was Serj...
"The song Lie, Lie, Lie, taken from Serj Tankian's (lead singer of System of a Down) solo album project, Elect the Dead is used as the theme song. "
http://www.horror-asylum.com/database/reviews.asp?item=5177

Wolfie
06-06-08, 10:13 AM
That was totally NOT scary.

Wolfie

dcowboy7
06-06-08, 10:31 AM
And I thought it was about sirens, nice deception there.. LOL

i did like the 1 chick....not the leader and not the no-talker....she had that nose thing goin on.

optivity
06-06-08, 11:27 AM
i did like the 1 chick....not the leader and not the no-talker....she had that nose thing goin on.ahh... the girl with the "hatchet"

DrLar
06-06-08, 12:15 PM
He means the hottest of the 3.... the seductress... yeah she played that role alright..
(maybe that's why they call them sirens 'cause of the lure). It was a bit hilarious of how the first guy fell in the trap..

The 2 (of 3) were well spoken for someone living isolated all their lives

Brian Conrad
06-06-08, 12:40 PM
The leader "Chelsea" was played by Rachel Miner who had a seductress role in Californication as Hank's agent's assistant.

HDTVChallenged
06-06-08, 12:59 PM
^^^ Thank you! I've been trying to figure out where I'd seen her before. :)

optivity
06-06-08, 01:13 PM
The leader "Chelsea" was played by Rachel Miner who had a seductress role in Californication as Hank's agent's assistant.She was extremely "hot" in that role. Didn't she also "hook up" with the agent's wife?

nickdawg
06-06-08, 04:32 PM
I'm betting the NBA finals robbed a large part of the ratings, not good pairing it against it, I'm guessing a 3.5 or so in ratings at best. Mountain time viewers caught the game half teim break when the show started.

And I thought it was about sirens, nice deception there.. LOL

Actually, "FI" came in slightly behind CBS's s**t fest "Swingtown". Guess that proves the saying "sex sells". Even if it is corny, 70s swinger sex. :D

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14027554#post14027554

I liked "Fear" and I'll be tuning in again next week.

CPanther95
06-07-08, 12:24 AM
A constant:

Nashville Star
Monday 9/8C

bug in white for the whole show (a horror show)

ridiculous :rolleyes:

MeowMeow
06-07-08, 02:47 AM
Watched about 15 minutes. Gave up when she started sewing the dude's mouth. My main interest was seeing where they were going with it (since the story really wasn't obviously going anywhere).

Overall the story was weak and generic. Production value was decent. Dialog read like the stuff you might expect from a competent high schooler taking his first swing at novelization.

I think my opinion may have been slightly skewed, though, since I just finished watching Breaking Bad S1 for the first time, and nothing was going to measure up to that.

I'll give it another week. But, if that was the big pilot-quality episode, this show is screwed.

As mentioned before, Fear Itself really is having a colorful clown pop up in the middle of a bleak white scene. Nothing gets my heart racing more than dumbass NBC graphics.

mchief99
06-07-08, 11:41 AM
Half or more of the program was black screen with sound. First commercial was OK and then picture and about half way thru back to black until near the end. Wonder if this was an NBC Washington DC/Comcast problem or my TivoHD which I recorded it with. Another recording made at the same time was OK. Anyone else experience the problem.

CPanther95
06-07-08, 11:49 AM
We had the awful audio issue here in Charlotte also. Bad reverb to the point that you could barely make out the dialogue for the first 30 to 40 minutes.

dougotte
06-07-08, 11:56 AM
I only checked in a few times for a few minutes each. It didn't interest me.

NBC4 in DC seemed to show the whole thing in letterbox SD.

Doug

Tom Imp
06-07-08, 01:03 PM
i did like the 1 chick....not the leader and not the no-talker....she had that nose thing goin on.

ahh... the girl with the "hatchet"

I was almost certain that was Sophie Monk, but after looking it up it's not. Her name is Mircea Monroe.

Do a Google Image Search with the filter off. She can hit me with a hatchet anyday. ;)

eddy_winds
06-07-08, 01:06 PM
I'll be tuning in again next week.

SidsDad
06-07-08, 10:30 PM
Still beats "Swingtown" on CBS. Looking forward to this show next week.

I enjoyed Swingtown more? If you liked this at all, you should REALLY check out Supernatural! Pretty much the same type of thing only exponentially better!
So far I think I Like "In Plain Sight" best of the "New" 3 I've watched! Just my 2 cents

ChadCronin
06-07-08, 10:33 PM
This isn't a new show. It's really the 3rd season of Masters of Horror. Showtime didn't want it anymore, so Lionsgate took over funding and they got NBC to pick it up with a new name. They probably filmed more graphic stuff to put on home video.

nickdawg
06-08-08, 01:52 AM
I enjoyed Swingtown more? If you liked this at all, you should REALLY check out Supernatural! Pretty much the same type of thing only exponentially better!
So far I think I Like "In Plain Sight" best of the "New" 3 I've watched! Just my 2 cents

I also watch "Supernatural" on Thursdays. "Fear Itself" was appealing b/c of its similarities to Supernatural. I agree with you there, Spernatural is on a much higher level. Never got a chance to see MoH on Showtime(don't have Showtime), This seems similar to the Stephen King series on TNT a few years back.

CPanther95
06-08-08, 10:30 AM
Like Masters of Horror, I'm sure this series will be hit or miss each week.

barth2k
06-08-08, 11:53 AM
This isn't a new show. It's really the 3rd season of Masters of Horror. Showtime didn't want it anymore, so Lionsgate took over funding and they got NBC to pick it up with a new name. They probably filmed more graphic stuff to put on home video.

so THAT'S why. I was going to say I liked this show better when it was on SHO and had more gore and nudity.

dan_o_00
06-08-08, 01:15 PM
Perhaps I'll watch next week's as long as there isn't a weather alert taking up half the screen.

dcowboy7
06-08-08, 04:06 PM
nothing says fear like the constant reminder for Nashville Star.


they are hyping "nashville star" yet not even showing it in HD....and taylor swift is on the first show too.

optivity
06-09-08, 04:12 PM
Actually, "FI" came in slightly behind CBS's s**t fest "Swingtown". Guess that proves the saying "sex sells". Even if it is corny, 70s swinger sex. :DAh yes the 70s, back during the days of my "yout!"

Pre-AIDs, pre-herpes, legally drinking & driving @ age 18... yup, a good time was had by all. :D

dcowboy7
06-09-08, 09:15 PM
they are hyping "nashville star" yet not even showing it in HD....and taylor swift is on the first show too.

ok the program guide was wrong again...."star" is HD.

llabine1
06-09-08, 10:28 PM
I liked it but gore is not scary....the challenge on this series will be trying to find something that IS scary without bloodletting...Alfred Hitchcock managed to do it on his show..so did Rod Serling....so far its predictable but it does look great...

VisionOn
06-10-08, 04:39 AM
If you want to watch this show but hate the crap that NBC call broadcasting then head over to http://www.hulu.com when this week has been shown OTA.

Only an NBC bug, no promo text or pop-ups and only a few short ad breaks. It's not available in 1080 but it is available in full screen 480p. Considering the sound problems last week stereo only isn't a drawback either.

dcowboy7
06-12-08, 08:09 PM
tonite.

"Spooked"

A Private Investigator (Heroes' Eric Roberts) whose skeletons start to come out of the closet when he stakeouts a haunted house.

Actors: Larry Gilliard Jr., Cynthia Watros, Jack Noseworthy,Andrew Deane, Matt Venne, Keith Addis
Director: Brad Anderson

nickdawg
06-12-08, 09:56 PM
If you want to watch this show but hate the crap that NBC call broadcasting then head over to http://www.hulu.com when this week has been shown OTA.

Only an NBC bug, no promo text or pop-ups and only a few short ad breaks. It's not available in 1080 but it is available in full screen 480p. Considering the sound problems last week stereo only isn't a drawback either.

I LOVE it!! That's the old NBC bug I love. Maybe it's making a comeback since it is on that new show online??

Watching LCS right now. Bug is terrible and distracting. I'm currently watching it on zoom. Cut off tops of heads look much better than that damn ad bug. The bad grammar is distracting:

AMERICA'S GOT
TALENT PREMIERES
TUESDAY 9/8c

I guess "America's Got" has it's "talent premiere"(whatever that is) on Tuesday at 9. :D:D At least that's how it reads...

dcowboy7
06-19-08, 09:59 AM
tonites episode:

"Family Man"
A prisoner must protect his family when he inadvertently switches bodies with a serial killer after a near-death experience.

NetworkTV
06-19-08, 02:30 PM
So far, this series is average, at best. I'm really only continuing with it since Supernatural is on break.

VisionOn
06-19-08, 10:09 PM
I'm not frightened by Baby Borrowers so it's another one I'll be watching on Hulu. The 480p setting is very acceptable on a 52 inch screen. Actually better quality than most of the TWC SD channels.

I thought last week's was predictable form the first minute all the way to the end so this is a time filler show now. Of course there's lots of time to fill right now!

Production values are good though.

NetworkTV
06-20-08, 12:05 PM
I thought last week's was predictable form the first minute all the way to the end so this is a time filler show now. Of course there's lots of time to fill right now!
Depending on how negotiations go, there may be even more time down the road. I may wear out my DVD player...

DrLar
06-20-08, 01:52 PM
Family Man was good but was very predictable, I saw that ending coming from miles ahead...

cocoon
06-22-08, 12:03 AM
Family Man was good but was very predictable, I saw that ending coming from miles ahead...

It should of been good the writer was the creator of the canceled HBO series "Carnivāle". Of course this was made for US broadcast TV so there were severe limiting factors.

WilliamR
06-23-08, 08:36 AM
Family Man was good but was very predictable, I saw that ending coming from miles ahead...

Yeah, I really enjoyed that episode. I figured it would end something like that, seeing as how these episodes do not have happy endings. However, it was still very enjoyable.

TeeJay1952
06-23-08, 10:31 AM
Damning with faint praise: The last one was the best of the series. Why do we watch TV? Because the next one might be the best.

Emaych
06-24-08, 07:05 AM
Family Man was good but was very predictable, I saw that ending coming from miles ahead...
The ending was perhaps the only saving grace for this very poorly written sketch.

Even granting the constraints of the hour-long presentation, are we not the least baffled as to the nature of this singular phenomenon in all the history of mankind -- some manner of happenstance soul-switching effected by what means exactly?

OK, ignoring that, we are witness to our newly grounded family man singing altogether too loudly in church. Now what is the point of this? That the new body inhabitant is now suddenly unfamiliar with all propriety which would allow his transformation to go unnoticed somewhat longer? That the felon is somewhat deaf? That he is mocking the institution? No, I'm afraid it is an extremely clumsy means to demonstate that he is different now, but of course no one acts that way, whether felon or no, especially if they are trying to go unnoticed.

By the way, why is trying to go unnoticed? Why is he at all interested in going to this guy's job? Working and supporting the family? What is the motivation there? Just absurd in every aspect. Furthermore, moments later after the embarassing singing interlude, he is calling out the would-be chaperone of his young kids, implying that his motives might not be very savory. UGGHHHH. Again ridiculous in any and all ways. Does he not see that no one else has a problem with this? That he undoubtedly is supposed to know this lad? Why would he care to make a spectacle of this anyway? Isn't he the ruthless murderer of many a family? Now he is protective? And the Mother! Without batting an eye, she informs him that this is so-and-so that he has known forever! Now how would that become her response to her husband of many years? Why, it is almost as if she knows she has to explain to him who this kid is. Absurd. Her response would more likely be "What, are you freaking out or something? Why would you treat so-and-so this way?"

Not only that, this would signal something massively wrong with hubby -- the day would not proceed normally from here, but she seems to accept that he "did not recognize him"! WHAT?! He needs to be hospitalized, not driving the kids home -- this is a severe rupture of psyche...

...but never mind. The worst aspect was that he wants to get by in this guy's job! Now what would he really do? I suspect not go to work and attempt to say "Good Morning" to all those people whose names he does not know, etc. How did he even find the office?

Anyway, if this were well written, it would not take very much longer to subtley and intelligently fill in the details, but when you get singing too loudly in church and wifee's comment, not to mention the nature of this amazing body exchange or why oh why is this murderer trying to go to work and succeed in the other guy's job, you have a sloppy mess that the producer's obviously care very little for, so why should we?

WilliamR
06-24-08, 07:53 AM
The ending was perhaps the only saving grace for this very poorly written sketch.

Even granting the constraints of the hour-long presentation, are we not the least baffled as to the nature of this singular phenomenon in all the history of mankind -- some manner of happenstance soul-switching effected by what means exactly?

OK, ignoring that, we are witness to our newly grounded family man singing altogether too loudly in church. Now what is the point of this? That the new body inhabitant is now suddenly unfamiliar with all propriety which would allow his transformation to go unnoticed somewhat longer? That the felon is somewhat deaf? That he is mocking the institution? No, I'm afraid it is an extremely clumsy means to demonstate that he is different now, but of course no one acts that way, whether felon or no, especially if they are trying to go unnoticed.

By the way, why is trying to go unnoticed? Why is he at all interested in going to this guy's job? Working and supporting the family? What is the motivation there? Just absurd in every aspect. Furthermore, moments later after the embarassing singing interlude, he is calling out the would-be chaperone of his young kids, implying that his motives might not be very savory. UGGHHHH. Again ridiculous in any and all ways. Does he not see that no one else has a problem with this? That he undoubtedly is supposed to know this lad? Why would he care to make a spectacle of this anyway? Isn't he the ruthless murderer of many a family? Now he is protective? And the Mother! Without batting an eye, she informs him that this is so-and-so that he has known forever! Now how would that become her response to her husband of many years? Why, it is almost as if she knows she has to explain to him who this kid is. Absurd. Her response would more likely be "What, are you freaking out or something? Why would you treat so-and-so this way?"

Not only that, this would signal something massively wrong with hubby -- the day would not proceed normally from here, but she seems to accept that he "did not recognize him"! WHAT?! He needs to be hospitalized, not driving the kids home -- this is a severe rupture of psyche...

...but never mind. The worst aspect was that he wants to get by in this guy's job! Now what would he really do? I suspect not go to work and attempt to say "Good Morning" to all those people whose names he does not know, etc. How did he even find the office?

Anyway, if this were well written, it would not take very much longer to subtley and intelligently fill in the details, but when you get singing too loudly in church and wifee's comment, not to mention the nature of this amazing body exchange or why oh why is this murderer trying to go to work and succeed in the other guy's job, you have a sloppy mess that the producer's obviously care very little for, so why should we?

He made the comment that he wanted to take over this guy's life and have a chance to be normal. It was his way out of the murdering life, to start fresh, with a family. He was all about the family, since he didn't have one. But he still reverted to his old ways.

Argee
06-24-08, 08:47 AM
Plus the trauma of the accident is a way for family and friends to justify change in behavior.

Emaych
06-24-08, 09:31 AM
Plus the trauma of the accident is a way for family and friends to justify change in behavior.

OK, fine. I'd be perfectly satisfied with his singing too loudly [just a bit mind you] at church if wife gives a [subtle] glance, perhaps a touch of his arm with discouraging ever-so-faint head shake, then asks after the service if his hearing seemed the same after the wreck -- all takes about the same time as what we got, but now you have plausability AND the difference between good and poor/mediocre writing.

You insert PLENTY of foundation with him explaining to wife how the accident has made him appreciate everything HE ALWAYS EVER WANTED and that he is going to try to do his utmost to hang onto it, but please forgive him if he seems a little rattled in the aftermath -- same with the jailhouse visits.

This would not take any more time than the insipidly unrealistic conversation we are treated to, while it serves to draw us into the believability of a guy so callous that he has murdered untold families, now endeavoring to provide loving support to one -- that aspect needs some serious foundation, otherwise it is all just a silly exercise and not in the least credible, therefore not in the least scary -- if we can't believe, how can we be frightened?

On the other side, hubby can't just repeat the idiotic claim to attorney that he did not do it -- he needs to make that lawyer BELIEVE he is the other man (or AT VERY LEAST start to question it) -- name and address of the other guy won't cut it -- he needs to bury that guy in so much intimate info it is going to stop him in his tracks, and when he calls wife, he better intrigue her with something only hubby knows and keep doing it -- yet his numbskull strategy is to claim he is the husband that she is standing next to -- that is his best, his one, perhaps last, bid to persuade her?

I don't know about other folks here, but when writing smacks of falsity or stupidity, it takes me straight out of the conceit -- when it is done well like THE EXORCIST for example -- all that great great foundation of going to the hospital for tests on Regan, talking to Priests -- that stuff was all so intelligent and absolutely real, that by the time the really bizarre stuff hit you, you were already on the ride -- not here sadly -- so, poor writing, no pride in craft, crap effort.

barth2k
06-24-08, 10:39 AM
Emaych: it's not HBO, it's TV! not even TV, but summertime filler.

sometimes, the soft bigotry of low expectation is just what the doctor orders.

Emaych
06-24-08, 01:35 PM
Emaych: it's not HBO, it's TV! not even TV, but summertime filler.

sometimes, the soft bigotry of low expectation is just what the doctor orders.

I like the way you expressed that! Truth is, I enjoyed it whether it was good or poor, but there is no particular reason I can see to excuse mediocrity. First of all, this was touted as something way beyond filler, though that might be the actual case. It was presented as a series of mini-films, short films, or works of art even, by some of your best horror directors working in Hollywood today.

Secondly, if I as a casual observer with zero stake in the production can outline glaring cases of where the writing derails into something farcical, I am mystified as to how groups of presumably intelligent minds think-tank the presentation of these scripts and come up with scenes like the singing at the church. OK, they want an easy, possibly humorous, visual that the guy aint right, but you MUST remain true to the already credibility-stretching premise. If he is singing too loudly, are we to think it is because he can't hear himself? has no sense of social propriety? is he mocking being there? When he changes body, he certainly can't of lost his sense of how to operate in society and yet that is the message, because it is poorly thought out. Now if we have some reason to think his old persona thinks it is appropriate to sing this loudly, then we have something, but that is to torture a poor premise too much -- best to get another idea.

And when wife immediately asserts the name of a person her husband has known for a very long time, and just how long he has known him, to answer his unexpected reaction to him, it smacks me in my forehead of falsity. If my Mother is visiting my wife and I, and grabs the car keys to go for a drive and wife objects, do I then turn to wife and explain "Honey, this is my Mother, you met her decades ago before we were married, remember?" -- of course not, it is out of left field and I don't know how someone writes that, let alone how does it stay in the script?

Oh well, my life didn't depend on this being good, but let's not confuse it with quality as some were seeming prone to. That is all.

dcowboy7
06-26-08, 11:06 AM
Tonites episode is directd by John ("Thriller") Landis:

"In Sickness and in Health" -
A bride receives a mysterious note on her wedding day, warning her that she is about to wed a serial killer.

Cast: Sonja Bennett, James Roday, Christie Laing, Marshall Bell, Maggie Lawson, Victor Salva, Andrew Deane, Keith Addis.

MSmith83
06-26-08, 11:32 AM
I have high hopes for Landis' entry. I've been rather disappointed with this series thus far. Last week's episode contained lots of unnecessary filler material, but was slightly saved by its decent ending. I can seriously say that my least favorite Masters of Horror episode is more enjoyable than anything I've seen on Fear Itself. Having said that, it's still better than most of what makes it to broadcast TV these days.

ChadCronin
06-27-08, 10:50 AM
Last nights episode was fairly good at first. I noticed all the scary statues. Near the end it started getting weird and the husband was acting a little over the top. The very end was confusing and seemed unrealistic seeing as how she was acting the whole time. Oh well. Whoever said they were gonna go for a surprise ending everytime was right. Doesn't mean that will work out well everytime.

MSmith83
06-27-08, 12:28 PM
The female lead's reaction throughout the episode was unrealistic considering the upshot of the story, but worked in making it much more surprising. My main issue is that this was yet another episode that I felt dragged-on with minimal progress, and probably would have been better served by a 30-minute time slot.

Tom Imp
06-27-08, 12:36 PM
Have to agree with the bride's reaction throughout made no sense. I definitely never saw that ending coming.

danc8379
06-27-08, 01:23 PM
Early on I actually thought that maybe the bride was the serial killer, but like others have said the way she reacted the rest of the episode convinced me I was wrong. Why would she be scared and running from the guy if she knew that he wasn't a killer?

Also, I was really hoping something would be up with the creepy twin uncles...I guess they were just there to throw us off more.

mastahkaz
06-27-08, 02:47 PM
I just need to chime in here and say this is probably the worst show I have ever seen.

smfrazz
06-27-08, 03:53 PM
Well... overall I have been VERY disapointed with this series. I was SOOO excited to see this coming...and now couldn't care less and started watching Swingtime instead. I mean come on... there is nothing fearful/scary (insert adj) about this series. At least Swingtime makes me reminiscient about my childhood with the cloths/music etc. two big thumbs down to the series. Likewise... I am looking forward to the new series on Fox called Fringe. But again if this is a serial in the vain of LOST....I won't watch it. On the other hand if it is more in the vain of X-Files... I'm all in.

Argee
06-27-08, 10:59 PM
I just need to chime in here and say this is probably the worst show I have ever seen.

Yep, its sure no My Dad is Better Than Your Dad. Talk about good TV.

Anifan
06-28-08, 12:50 AM
I didn't like this episode much at first, but about halfway through I figured out where it was going and got pretty excited with it. I thought it could have been wrapped up a little more smoothly though.

I disagree about her reaction not making any sense. She knew all along that the note was meant for him and that the priest gave it to the wrong person. You'll notice the only thing she was concerned with was if anyone had read the note. And she was particularly concerned with who had written it. Her entire reaction was based on trying to keep her secret.

The mysteriousness of her husband and his family is probably just a red herring. Maybe it helps explain why she's scared in the end. He could be particularly dangerous if he had discovered the truth, considering his parents seem to have been murdered and he has anger issues associated with that. However, I think that element of the story just felt unfinished. I enjoyed the idea of this story, the progression of the plot was just quite clunky.

Emaych
06-30-08, 02:09 PM
I didn't like this episode much at first, but about halfway through I figured out where it was going and got pretty excited with it. I thought it could have been wrapped up a little more smoothly though.

I disagree about her reaction not making any sense. She knew all along that the note was meant for him and that the priest gave it to the wrong person. You'll notice the only thing she was concerned with was if anyone had read the note. And she was particularly concerned with who had written it. Her entire reaction was based on trying to keep her secret.

The mysteriousness of her husband and his family is probably just a red herring. Maybe it helps explain why she's scared in the end. He could be particularly dangerous if he had discovered the truth, considering his parents seem to have been murdered and he has anger issues associated with that. However, I think that element of the story just felt unfinished. I enjoyed the idea of this story, the progression of the plot was just quite clunky.
You are being way too forgiving. The principal, primary and unredeemable feature to this unfortunate installment was uninspired tedium from beginning to end. A close second to that would be the main characters, both husband and bride, acting in utterly inexplicable fashion almost throughout. Following just behind that would be the lackluster, perfunctory direction and barreness of the set pieces (this last may in fact be just a subset of the first complaint).

Here is another case of insufficient foundation for what might have been the story here. Was the bride alarmed at the note at all? We assume not, since with what we came to find out about her, we assume that she knew it had been misdelivered from the start. But it could be that she might have thought it WAS for her and something of a rather extraordinary coincidence was happening. If this was the case, it might explain the way she acted throughout except toward that end when she reveals that the note was misdelivered. Was this a new insight? Why now did she not think it was for her anymore?

If she did know from the outset that it had been misdelivered, then what was the charade of terror about? One can explain it MAYBE when others were around, but what about all those anxious moments alone? -- and the phone call to brother, which started out in private? We know that HE knows her secret, so what was that call about? -- who is she meaning to dupe with the attitude and content? Does she not know that he knows? How could that be? They share the same dwelling -- he seemed to have free enough access. Were they both engaged in the enterprise jointly? still does not explain the call to him.

But the most glaring case of inappropriate motivations, demeanor, tone was the shift in the new husband. We are supposed to buy that on his wedding day he comes all unwound and menacing, yelling, insulting, and hammering on doors just because he feels giulty for his possible indiscretion? -- or because she got a note? No, sadly it seems obvious enough to me that we were supposed to believe the note referred to him and this would explain his rapid decline post-ceremony -- that he is what the note claims and is now revealing it -- but even if it were true, why let his master plan so suddenly and publically unfold after a courtship that certainly had no such component? -- what is the point of that?

But then of course this avenue of explanation is ripped from us entirely in the end, so now we have hubby freaking for NO APPARENT REASON. This is not good, tight, storymaking. Even if all the clues were laid out for a good explanation for all this muck somewhere in the telling, and I just might have missed them, it was too boring and pointless to merit going back as one might have for THE SIXTH SENSE, to see if that plot held together all along the way without contradictory or inexplicable, impossible false-lead laying.

Oh well, see what next week has in store, but so far not a stellar assemblage of shorts.

CPanther95
06-30-08, 02:46 PM
Just watched this episode. Very poor.

Suspected where it was going in the first few minutes when her bridesmaid said something about her boyfriends always disappearing. Then the wording "The person you are..." of the note made it obvious. Then when you saw the groom's reactions, it was so over-the-top trying to get you to believe he was the serial killer, you're left at the end assuming he may not be a psycho serial killer, he must just be psycho.

dcowboy7
06-30-08, 02:56 PM
Just watched this episode. Very poor.



the bride was cute though.

CPanther95
06-30-08, 04:38 PM
Loved the Psych-heavy cast. ;)

dcowboy7
06-30-08, 07:37 PM
it was wierd seeing davis without his cigarette.

WilliamR
07-01-08, 09:44 AM
Horrible episode. I didn't enjoy anything about it.

HDTVChallenged
07-01-08, 11:20 AM
Loved the Psych-heavy cast. ;)

Yeah ... you almost had to suspect that Maggie would be the SK, given her character on Psych. :)

Emaych
07-01-08, 12:13 PM
I knew I recognized hubby from someplace. I only ever made it through one viewing of PSYCH however, so placement of the recognition required memory-jog. One aspect of PSYCH that left me cold was that actor's character interpretation -- his silly/shallow/unconvincing paroxisms of divination that just rendered the whole escapade a meritless exercise.

Here I was thinking something very similar -- that he seemed to be suited to a frivolous winking and nodding type acting style, as if we were all in on the joke -- thought I might have seen him before, but that did not come into play as far as evaluating his limitation here -- he just did not seem at all capable of a range including menace or anger.

Just another shortfall with this one, but of course the writing actually gave him no reason to be menacing or angry anyway, so perhaps he was just lacking proper motivation for this one.......

dcowboy7
07-03-08, 02:35 PM
Tonights Episode:

"Eater"
Nothing is as it seems when a rookie cop is assigned to watch over a serial killer known as The Eater.

Cast: Elisabeth Moss, Pablo Schreiber, Russell Hornsby, Stephen R. Hart, Stephen Lee, Richard Chizmar, Keith Addis, Johnathon Schaech, Andrew Deane

Director: Stuart Gordon

Tom Imp
07-03-08, 07:56 PM
Let's play "Guess the shocking ending".

My guess, either the rookie cop or someone close to him gets eaten at the end. Preferably cut up and placed into a meal.


Wait, that sounds awfully familiar. Oh yeah, that's right, I saw that in a South Park epsidoe a few years ago. :p

MSmith83
07-04-08, 08:28 AM
I thought Eater was boring and bland. It is a prime example of how a good cast of actors can be wasted with poor material. I almost fell asleep halfway through, but later acquired enough energy to fully witness the lame ending.

NYY860
07-04-08, 09:14 AM
well, i liked the show and will be watching next week.

HDTVChallenged
07-04-08, 12:41 PM
Wait, that sounds awfully familiar. Oh yeah, that's right, I saw that in a South Park epsidoe a few years ago. :p

What you mean somebody in the horror genre would reuse a plot device??? Say it ain't so. ;) :D

Ya gotta give a few points for the suicide/sacrifice rat-poison twist. :)

Tom Imp
07-04-08, 01:18 PM
Yeah, I was way off on my pick. Hell, I didn't even get the sex of the rookie cop right. :D

Brian Conrad
07-04-08, 03:34 PM
I don't find these shows all that bad but I think the network makes the director's water down the production more than the would if Lionsgate were releasing these straight to DVD. So far I liked last night's show best. And of course I realize that since the 1950's many people favorite sport is to rank out horror and sci-fi films. I also found that many newspaper movie critics don't "get" horror and sci-fi which was confirmed by a friend who knew one personally.

dcowboy7
07-04-08, 05:44 PM
moral victory....won the timeslot in both 18-49 & total viewers:
Viewers: 5.01 million (#1), A18-49: 1.5/ 5 (#1)

CPanther95
07-04-08, 11:44 PM
I don't think this weak episode had anything to do with watering it down for network television. The problem was a crappy ending.

ChadCronin
07-05-08, 12:08 PM
I enjoyed the episode, so did my mom, and my friend who I had watch it on hulu. We all had to watch it online since our local nbc decided to air fireworks instead. I'm not sure why there is so many complaints about this. I enjoy it over 70% of whats aired, so there's not a ton more they could do to make it better. This episode had some scary moments, grossness, and enough suspense to make it enjoyable. When I hear people complain about this I start thinking they should just watch something else. I on the other hand will keep watching all of them. The only one I haven't particularly liked was the Eric Roberts one.

CPanther95
07-05-08, 12:21 PM
When I hear people complain about this I start thinking they should just watch something else.

..............

The only one I haven't particularly liked was the Eric Roberts one.

Yet you didn't stop watching after the show you didn't like.

This isn't a series where if you don't enjoy the first few episodes, you give up. It's an anthology series where each show is entirely independent from all the others. One bad show, or 5, doesn't mean that every show will be bad. For serious fans of horror, at least for me, I'll tune into each and every episode hoping for an entertaining 1 hour story.

This episode met expectations all the way to the end. However, the ending lacked any creativity or intelligence. Like they spent 41 minutes building up a story then realized they only had a minute to wrap it up.

dcowboy7
07-05-08, 01:27 PM
+ what else is on.

HDTVChallenged
07-05-08, 01:42 PM
This episode met expectations all the way to the end. However, the ending lacked any creativity or intelligence. Like they spent 41 minutes building up a story then realized they only had a minute to wrap it up.

There are usually one of three possible endings to a horror pick:

1) Everyone (good guys) dies and the bad guy lives to kill again
2) One (or a small number of good guys) gets away and the bad guy lives to kill again.
3) Ok there's only two

This one was different (everyone dies) and a bit unexpected (other than telegraphing the rat-poison angle through the last commercial break. :) )

I don't see how that's "lame" other than it doesn't fit the standard horror template. :D

Argee
07-05-08, 01:48 PM
Is NBC going to air all 13 of these? There are still nine to go and in a few weeks the Olympics will take over their schedule and then its almost to the Fall premiers.

dcowboy7
07-05-08, 01:52 PM
Is NBC going to air all 13 of these? There are still nine to go.

8 to go....see page 1.

dcowboy7
07-16-08, 08:26 PM
to quote kramer from "the merv griffin show" show:
"we're back".

thursdays episode -
"New Year's Day"
A young woman awakens in a post-apocalyptic world overrun by zombies.

MSmith83
07-17-08, 11:06 PM
I liked tonight's episode. It was nicely paced with effective interludes and a solid ending.

Maybe the director of the awful Saw sequels found his calling in short films. :D

CPanther95
07-17-08, 11:34 PM
That one was much better.

Tom Imp
07-18-08, 12:21 AM
I honestly didn't care for this one. The jumpy camera work was extremely annoying to me and it took away from the episode. The only good part about it to me was that the female lead had a killer body.

DrLar
07-18-08, 09:22 AM
Yeah the "killer" body indeed! LOL

Who suspected that she was dead already? 6th sense anyone?

Didn't like the back and forth jumping around, and they didn't told us what caused all of this? I guess 42 mins aren't enough...

CPanther95
07-18-08, 09:30 AM
The jumpy camera was annoying as hell, but the storyline was much more creative. I guess the jumpy camera work was supposed to be another clue that she was a zombie with that "Max Headroom-type" head jerking while we were following the story through her viewpoint.

All we were told about the origin (and really, all we needed to know) was that it was caused by the explosion at a chemical plant.

dcowboy7
07-18-08, 11:23 AM
yea the story was good but between the lights flashing, her flashlight all over the place, and the stop action effects, what a pain to watch.

i hate stuff like that as it takes me out of the story....feels like im watching tv instead of being there....but again it goes back to the battlestar galactica "artsy" argument again.

dcowboy7
07-18-08, 11:33 AM
Next week:

"Community"
A young couple find a dark side to their perfect house in the perfect neighborhood.

wasnt that an x-files episode, scully/mulder played a married couple, everyone had to keep their house perfect, even the mailbox, or some vodoo dirt monster would kill u.

DrLar
07-18-08, 12:19 PM
^ sounds like a Twilight Zone episode.. LOL...

CPanther95
07-18-08, 12:35 PM
.. or a Masters of Horror episode starring George Wendt. ;)

dcowboy7
07-18-08, 12:44 PM
.. or a Masters of Horror episode starring George Wendt. ;)

crowd: Norrrrm !!
diane: norman.
woody: whadya say to a beer mr. p.
norm: going down.

dcowboy7
07-18-08, 01:08 PM
Next week:

"Community"
A young couple find a dark side to their perfect house in the perfect neighborhood.

wasnt that an x-files episode, scully/mulder played a married couple, everyone had to keep their house perfect, even the mailbox, or some vodoo dirt monster would kill u.

yea it was --

Episode: 6ABX13 Arcadia

Writer: Daniel Arkin
Director: Michael Watkins
Original Broadcast: US: 07.03.1999

Mulder and Scully pose as a married couple to investigate a series of bizarre happenings in an exclusive, gated community.

HDTVChallenged
07-19-08, 01:39 AM
^ sounds like a Twilight Zone episode.. LOL...

Speaking of which, it looks like MyNet has resurrected the nameplate ... in glorious HDTV no less.

barth2k
07-19-08, 10:34 AM
the camera work annoyed me so much I used the 30secs skip to skim through it. I think I got the "I AM dead people" twist around 3/4 of the way through. I figured there HAD to be a twist b/c so far it'd been pointless and annoying.

CPanther95
07-19-08, 10:56 AM
Speaking of which, it looks like MyNet has resurrected the nameplate ... in glorious HDTV no less.

Any details? Just got the franchise, or are they in production?

TZ and Outer Limits are two other series' that I'll suffer through many predictable or crappy episodes for that periodic gem.

rezzy
07-19-08, 12:04 PM
I liked tonight's episode. It was nicely paced with effective interludes and a solid ending.

Maybe the director of the awful Saw sequels found his calling in short films. :DWhat hurt what could've been a great episode was the juvenile writing. Were these characters supposed to be 17 or something?

HDTVChallenged
07-19-08, 05:06 PM
Any details? Just got the franchise, or are they in production?

I don't know for sure, I just happened upon it while channel surfing the other night. The "local" Mynet affiliate (WMYO Louisville, KY) has another two episodes scheduled next week (I think Tues night,but it might be Wednesday) It could be a sydication thing, but I'm thinking that the HD indicates otherwise (for this station anyway.) I'll do some more checking ... stay tuned.

HDTVChallenged
07-19-08, 06:00 PM
Any details? Just got the franchise, or are they in production?

Ok, here's (http://www.mynetworktv.com/shows.php?show=69&page=guides) the link to the official MyNet page. Look's like I/we already missed most of the episodes. It started on July 2 - talk about your stealth premiers.

WaldorfSalad
07-19-08, 06:35 PM
I didn't really enjoy this episode much at all. It was definitely not helped by the crappy (IMHO) camera work. I also have to shamefully admit to not really getting the premise of the story until I read the explanations here. It probably also didn't help that I dozed off for about 5-10 minutes about halfway through. :rolleyes:

CPanther95
07-19-08, 06:40 PM
Ok, here's (http://www.mynetworktv.com/shows.php?show=69&page=guides) the link to the official MyNet page. Look's like I/we already missed most of the episodes. It started on July 2 - talk about your stealth premiers.

OK, you're just talking about syndication. I was hoping for new episodes.

HDTVChallenged
07-19-08, 11:40 PM
OK, you're just talking about syndication. I was hoping for new episodes.

Yeah ... looks that way, I thought the Shannon Elizabeth episode was strangely familiar. :) I went spelunking through the TiVo data/menus and discovered these were from 2002-2003. Got all excited for naught.

srw1000
07-20-08, 02:08 AM
Over the past couple of weeks, we've managed to watch all of the episodes, usually back-to-back.

What a disappointment. Just like Masters of Horror, just like Masters of Science Fiction (ugh, even worse than this series).

There's obviously some decent money involved with the show, just look at the production values and names involved. Yet the best they can manage is mediocrity. Some of the episodes managed a couple of good scares, and others developed a sense of tension, but the endings have all been uninspired, predictable, and lifeless.

There's still some episodes left. Maybe there's a chance that one of them might actually be good.

I'd be tempted to say that horror just can't work on TV anymore, but yet virtually every week Supernatural proves that it can.

Scott

ChadCronin
07-20-08, 03:40 PM
I watched this last weeks with my mom. We watch them all together. We both were kind of bored. Too much yapping at the party. Then the fat lady zombie hitting on the door, I was like, what?! bad acting. All the going back and forth. The some silly twist ending. I felt like I was watching a mix of Cloverfield and Day of the Dead.

Brian Conrad
07-20-08, 10:21 PM
Throw in a little bit of "The Signal" too.

ChadCronin
07-20-08, 11:24 PM
Throw in a little bit of "The Signal" too.

I haven't seen that yet is it good? If it's like this episode I might not bother. lol

DrLar
07-21-08, 01:43 PM
Yeah ... looks that way, I thought the Shannon Elizabeth episode was strangely familiar. :) I went spelunking through the TiVo data/menus and discovered these were from 2002-2003. Got all excited for naught.

Was the show hosted by Forest Whitaker? and, was it in HD? I don't recall.. and I have OTA MyNet but it's full pixelated SD (with like .5Mb bandwidth)..

HDTVChallenged
07-21-08, 04:45 PM
Was the show hosted by Forest Whitaker? and, was it in HD? I don't recall..

Yep that's the one. There's more info over on the IMDB.

Brian Conrad
07-21-08, 05:31 PM
I haven't seen that yet is it good? If it's like this episode I might not bother. lol

It's an innovative independent film that is in three acts each done by a different director. I was certainly reminded of it when I watched it. It's available both on DVD and BluRay.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780607/
The second act has a lot of dark humor to it.

ChadCronin
07-22-08, 11:36 PM
It's an innovative independent film that is in three acts each done by a different director. I was certainly reminded of it when I watched it. It's available both on DVD and BluRay.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780607/
The second act has a lot of dark humor to it.

Ok, Thanks.

dcowboy7
07-24-08, 09:36 AM
Tonights Episode:

"Community"
A young couple find a dark side to their perfect house in the perfect neighborhood.

Tom Imp
07-25-08, 01:09 AM
That episode was ridiculous! The only good part was when the next door neighbor put the scissors into the bitch leader's neck.

What the hell was with that ending? Why did the wife and friend all of a sudden become like the community after they helped her escape and hid her? That made absolutely no sense.

ChadCronin
07-25-08, 02:08 AM
I thought the episode was interesting. Good casting. I agree that the end got to be a bit weird. I don't why the friend and wife got all stepford at the end either. It is a stretch that they would be that crazy and cut off peoples legs. Oh well I enjoyed it for what it was.

dcowboy7
07-25-08, 09:21 AM
That episode was ridiculous! The only good part was when the next door neighbor put the scissors into the bitch leader's neck.


& it was nelix from star trek: voyager.

RockyF
07-25-08, 10:48 AM
& it was nelix from star trek: voyager.

Close, but not quite. It was actually Dr. Phlox from Enterprise.

dcowboy7
07-31-08, 02:27 PM
Tonights Episode:

"Skin & Bones"
A cattle herder's family notices that he has changed when he returns after being lost in the woods for days.

ChadCronin
07-31-08, 11:21 PM
That actor was quite good. His teeth! So were they saying the uncle was the real dad for both kids? The mom was cheating on her husband the whole time they were married?

rezzy
08-01-08, 12:06 AM
Great make-up and effects, but mostly terrible writing.

EscapeVelocity
08-01-08, 12:14 AM
Great show. I love it. Forrest Whittaker is hosting The new Twighlight Zone, too.

donaldsonjune
08-01-08, 08:13 AM
skin & bones? what is your opinion of the end? did the ________ go into ______ ????

dcowboy7
08-01-08, 12:16 PM
they should have just shot him earlier.....but then 40 mins of show wouldve still been left.

Tom Imp
08-01-08, 01:57 PM
So, I guess they decided to shy away from the surprise ending this time and just make it straight up horror.

Argee
09-21-08, 08:43 AM
So it seems the final 5 or so that never made it to air will never be seen?

HDTVChallenged
09-21-08, 12:08 PM
I suspect they'll drag them back out as schedule fillers ... at some unknown point.

eddy_winds
09-21-08, 01:47 PM
I doubt it

Argee
09-21-08, 01:56 PM
They could and probaly will dump them over to SciFi.