View Full Version : Pioneer woofer+normal speakers setup


Skylinestar
06-09-08, 02:47 AM
I have a set of speakers, taken from my old Pioneer VS500DVD mini hifi system. Unluckily, the main unit has failed. I would like to connect these speakers to an AVR (which I am planning to buy).

Speakers available:
Front:
1 left speaker
1 right speaker

1 left woofer
1 right woofer

Center:
1 speaker

Rear:
1 left speaker
1 right speaker

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Here are the specs of these speakers (copy from manual):

Super Woofer x 2
-- Bass-reflex bookshelf type
-- 20cm 1-way cone type

Front Speaker x 2
-- Closed-box bookshelf type
-- Mid-range - 10cm cone type
-- Tweeter - 5.2cm cone type

Nominal Impedance (total) - 6 ohm
Frequency Response (total) - 38Hz to 20kHz
Maximum power (total) - 140W

Center x 1, Surround x 2
-- Closed-box type
-- 8.7cm 1-way cone type
-- Nominal Impedance - 8 ohm
-- Maximum power - 30 W
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Each of the speaker has its own pair of wire(red & black).
Here comes the problem. (only for left and right CHANNEL)
Majority of AVR has 1 channel for front left & 1 channel for front right. However, for my left channel, I have 1 front left normal speaker, together with a left Superwoofer. (The same goes to the right channel).

Lets talk about left channel only. (Right channel is similar)
Can I connect BOTH the front left normal speaker, together with a left Superwoofer into the left channel output of AVR? Will the LFE automatically be delivered to the superwoofer? How will the speakers sound like? Any detrimental effect to AVR?

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Can i connect both the L+R superwoofers, merge into a plug, and connect it to the Subwoofer output of AVR?

kamui
06-20-08, 05:19 AM
If budget permits, I'd be more worried about upgrading the speakers and getting a passable receiver.

If that's not possible, then most receivers have a subwoofer out using speaker wires. I don't know if that will yield LFE, but it will help in filtering out higher pitched tones from reaching your superwoofers.

You can't just connect the woofers to the sub out unless you use a seperate amp. Ie. connect the sub out from receiver to an amp, then speaker wire from amp to superwoofers.

Hope I make sense and it helps you. Again, worry more about getting new speakers if possible.

-Brian

Drew Eckhardt
06-20-08, 07:31 AM
No.

When you're paying to build all the electronics and speakers, for a given output level it can be less expensive to implement an active cross-over and extra amplification channels than a passive one with fewer amplifier channels. It can work better too so this isn't a bad thing.

Your old system probably did this and any off-the-shelf receiver isn't going to have suitable cross-over frequencies to go to the woofers to say nothing of anything special the engineers did in the cross-over and the single mono subwoofer output you get from a normal receiver.

Kal Rubinson
06-20-08, 11:23 AM
Can i connect both the L+R superwoofers, merge into a plug, and connect it to the Subwoofer output of AVR?No. The sub output of most decent AVRs is at line level (RCA plug) and your speakers need amplification. You would have to add an amplifier. That money would be better spent on real speakers.

Skylinestar
07-03-08, 10:33 PM
i have no budget to get another amp.
it will be a total waste if i get another set of 5.1 speakers.
how about ditching the superwoofers, re-use the L+R front, center and L+R surround speakers, plugging them to an AVR, and get another dedicated subwoofer..creating a true 5.1 setup?

Skylinestar
07-12-08, 12:17 AM
any comments?

whoaru99
07-12-08, 09:28 AM
I think the recommendation of different speakers still hold true. But, if that's NOT going to happen, then you really don't have much choice but to use what you have.

EDIT: Your last scenario would work, afaik.

Kal Rubinson
07-12-08, 10:11 AM
Lets talk about left channel only. (Right channel is similar)
Can I connect BOTH the front left normal speaker, together with a left Superwoofer into the left channel output of AVR? Will the LFE automatically be delivered to the superwoofer? No to all.

Can i connect both the L+R superwoofers, merge into a plug, and connect it to the Subwoofer output of AVR?No.

dknightd
07-12-08, 12:02 PM
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You might try this arrangement. It could work OK. Depends if your old system did the crossover in the receiver or if that was handled by the speakers. If this is the way your old system is wired it might work fine with a different receiver. I don't know what your old system did with the lfe channel- if anything.

To be honest, it might be time to start over

rtobias1972
11-10-08, 04:02 PM
Hi would you be intrested in selling me your remote control