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No revisionist nonsense on this BD release. PQ is excellent. Nothing to complain about. Especially if you know the look and style chosen by the film makers. The larger the viewing screen the better chance you will feel quesy because of the shaky camera. A lot like the Bourne movies :)
AQ is superb. Reference quality. 'Nuff said.
It deserves your well earned $19.99 ;)
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Cloverfield VC-1 1:24:40 24,852,836,352 42,219,444,202 39.13 30.42 Dolby TrueHD 5.1 5185Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
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VC-1 Video 30421 kbps 1080p / 23.976fps
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Dolby TrueHD Audio English 5185 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps)
Dolby Digital Audio French 640 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 640 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz
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Pineapple 06-15-08, 02:16 AM It puts the pictures in this thread or it gets the hose again.
I havnt seen this movie before so im not 100 percent sure, but isnt part of the movie supposed to look like its shot on a handycam? if so, could we get some screenies from the parts that dont? thanks
lgans316 06-15-08, 03:38 AM Xylon,
As usual thanks for the caps and posting the disc stats.
I havnt seen this movie before so im not 100 percent sure, but isnt part of the movie supposed to look like its shot on a handycam? if so, could we get some screenies from the parts that dont? thanks
That's the whole movie. The screen caps don't show the improvement that most films do because of the way it's shot. The real comparison is with the audio:)
Kram Sacul 06-15-08, 07:36 AM There's not going to be a lot of shots that have a ton of detail in them because of the motion blur and plus the image was somewhat degraded for effect (ie noise). There is 1080p detail in certain shots though. How about comparisons of these (taken from online trailers):
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9924/11808teasertu0.jpg
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5854/cloverfieldtrailerstorefu6.jpg
It's interesting to note that the teaser is cropped to 2.35:1. Most likely so it could play full screen when it was attached to Transformers.
Romerojpg 06-15-08, 08:47 AM Xylons first image the difference is pretty much easy to spot and the Blu Rays looks far better, that second shot mind you is not that easy to spot the difference, its better, but looks like the transfers up and down if them are to go by :) I still have not got the disc, but hopefully there are more shots like the first picture than that second one.
ElwayLite 06-15-08, 09:11 AM Rcvd the BD yesterday, watched it last night(first watched it at the theater). The PQ and AQ of this movie(both are superb) just cements my thinking of not needing to go to the theater anymore.
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This girl is SMOKIN hot! Never seen her in a movie before...hopefully she gets more work onscreen.
XBRSteve 06-15-08, 03:11 PM This girl is SMOKIN hot! Never seen her in a movie before...hopefully she gets more work onscreen.
I was just thinking the same thing.
whitestang06 06-15-08, 04:09 PM She was on CSI for a few episodes, until her character just vanished.:( She added some much appreciated eye candy to that show.
It would have been funny if HUD had kept focusing on her rack throughout the movie, I know I would have.:)
Sharp1080 06-15-08, 04:55 PM She was on CSI for a few episodes, until her character just vanished.:( She added some much appreciated eye candy to that show.
It would have been funny if HUD had kept focusing on her rack throughout the movie, I know I would have.:)
He, Hud gets some leg action shots later on in the movie. :D
Big Brad 06-15-08, 05:51 PM Xylons first image the difference is pretty much easy to spot and the Blu Rays looks far better, that second shot mind you is not that easy to spot the difference, its better, but looks like the transfers up and down if them are to go by :) I still have not got the disc, but hopefully there are more shots like the first picture than that second one.
I don't think it's so much the transfer as it was how it was shot. They used around 4 different cameras for the entire film. A lot of the interior apartment scenes were shot with the Panasonic HVX200 HD video camera, which produces a nice picture but isn't all that great for low-light situations.
That second shot that Xylon posted looks like it was from the HVX200. I've edited a lot of HD footage from that camera and it has that look in low-light environments. What looks like a bad compression job is actually the fault of the HVX200's compression scheme (it shoots to P2 cards).
I'd still say that the apartment scenes look nice given that it was shot on HD video. I can't remember when the higher quality cameras were used, but the nighttime exteriors were certainly not shot with the HVX200.
By the way, great movie and sound mix!
-Brad
invadergir 06-16-08, 02:01 AM It's interesting to note that the teaser is cropped to 2.35:1. Most likely so it could play full screen when it was attached to Transformers.
Paramount and Fox do this a lot for their movie trailers. The only one i have seen Paramount not alter for the screen is Indiana Jones and Kung Fu Panda. They have been doing this for several years now and i wish sometimes they wouldn't tease me with what the movie could of been like in Scope (War of the Worlds) Got tons of Film trailers at home that show this.
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Vidmaven 06-16-08, 11:04 AM This girl is SMOKIN hot! Never seen her in a movie before...hopefully she gets more work onscreen.Her name is Jessica Lucas and she was also in the movies Amusement, The Covenant and She's the Man.
Jessica Lucas (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1140300/)
cybersoga 06-16-08, 12:24 PM What camera was this shot with?
Big Brad 06-16-08, 02:26 PM It was shot on various cameras. Here's the list according to IMDB:
Panasonic AG-HSC1U
Panasonic AG-HVX200
Sony CineAlta F23
Thomson VIPER FilmStream Camera
-Brad
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Pretty obvious improvement on the BRD in that last shot. Just compare the scattering of rocks.
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This one pisses me off because she was supposed to be the "Hottie", the other chick is way hotter. This one seriously need to seek help for her eating disorder!
Deviation 06-16-08, 08:30 PM This one pisses me off because she was supposed to be the "Hottie", the other chick is way hotter. This one seriously need to seek help for her eating disorder!
Just because she was the main character's love interest doesn't mean she was supposed to be "the hottie".
Kram Sacul 06-16-08, 08:35 PM The less said about the characters in Cloverfield the better, IMO.
the bomber 06-17-08, 08:45 AM Unfortunately I fell prey to all of the hype and watched it SD. Since the movie wasn't very good, I'm now torn about suffering through it again so that I can experience the AQ of the TrueHD track.
Is it worth it?
bonham2 06-17-08, 09:48 AM Unfortunately I fell prey to all of the hype and watched it SD. Since the movie wasn't very good, I'm now torn about suffering through it again so that I can experience the AQ of the TrueHD track.
Is it worth it?
YES!!! Great audio track.
Just because she was the main character's love interest doesn't mean she was supposed to be "the hottie".
It wasn't meant to be taken too seriously ;), Usually the female lead is considered to be the most attractive though.
It wasn't meant to be taken too seriously ;), Usually the female lead is considered to be the most attractive though.
I guess there's no accounting for taste. I much preferred the female lead to the girl who everbody else is drooling over.
Thank God we don't all like the same girls or there'd be a lot of lonely people out there. :D
Look at it this way: If you and I were the last two men on Earth, and these two girls were the last two females on Earth, you and I would be DELIGHTED with the split. Not too sure how the gals would feel. :-)
It puts the pictures in this thread or it gets the hose again.
The pictures are in put ;)
Xylon,
As usual thanks for the caps and posting the disc stats.
The disc stats are there for a reason ;)
There's not going to be a lot of shots that have a ton of detail in them because of the motion blur and plus the image was somewhat degraded for effect (ie noise). There is 1080p detail in certain shots though. How about comparisons of these (taken from online trailers):
It's interesting to note that the teaser is cropped to 2.35:1. Most likely so it could play full screen when it was attached to Transformers.
Will work on it :)
I guess there's no accounting for taste. I much preferred the female lead to the girl who everbody else is drooling over.
Thank God we don't all like the same girls or there'd be a lot of lonely people out there. :D
Look at it this way: If you and I were the last two men on Earth, and these two girls were the last two females on Earth, you and I would be DELIGHTED with the split. Not too sure how the gals would feel. :-)
I will take both of them thank you very much!!! :mad:
:)
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Deviation 06-17-08, 06:57 PM Wow. That's definitely one of the more striking comparison shots I've seen in a while.
Patsfan123 06-17-08, 07:04 PM Holy macroblocks on the DVD shot.
The next time I need directions to my nearest pharmacutical outlet, I will ask Blu-ray. ;)
SubSolar 06-18-08, 03:41 AM I guess there's no accounting for taste. I much preferred the female lead to the girl who everbody else is drooling over.
Thank God we don't all like the same girls or there'd be a lot of lonely people out there. :D
Look at it this way: If you and I were the last two men on Earth, and these two girls were the last two females on Earth, you and I would be DELIGHTED with the split. Not too sure how the gals would feel. :-)
I agree, both girls are attractive but the brunette is to die for.
lgans316 06-18-08, 03:45 AM Yep. The PHARMACY board is exceedingly legible on the Blu pic.
whitestang06 06-18-08, 03:51 AM I agree, both girls are attractive but the brunette is to die for.
They're both brunettes, aren't they?:confused:
Rathbone 06-18-08, 08:55 AM Superb comparison.
@ Xylon: Which tool do you use for the technical summary of the disc on the 1st page?
Corellianrogue 06-18-08, 09:47 AM http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/Cloverfield/CloverfieldAVSxylonNTSCdvd5.pnghttp://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/Cloverfield/CloverfieldAVSxylonbd5.png
I would have liked to see more of Clovie's amazing shrinking superpower as demonstrated here on the SOL's head which he obviously zapped with his shrink-beam or whatever to reduce it to about half its regular size. :rolleyes:
John Ballentine 06-18-08, 09:52 AM Yep. The PHARMACY board is exceedingly legible on the Blu pic.
Yep. Night and day actually.
Kevin M. Dean 06-18-08, 12:29 PM I would have liked to see more of Clovie's amazing shrinking superpower as demonstrated here on the SOL's head which he obviously zapped with his shrink-beam or whatever to reduce it to about half its regular size. :rolleyes:
The Statue of Liberty's head is 17 feet long by 10 feet wide. Looks right to me. :rolleyes:
Corellianrogue 06-18-08, 01:13 PM The Statue of Liberty's head is 17 feet long by 10 feet wide. Looks right to me. :rolleyes:
Maybe it's just an optical illusion or something but the SOL's head looks a lot bigger on the statue itself, especially with people waving out of it and stuff. :confused: (In photos and video I mean, I've never actually been to America so haven't seen it in "real life".)
Kram Sacul 06-18-08, 01:19 PM For curiousity sake:
h.264 trailer
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/626/cloverfieldtrailerstatuob2.jpg
Corellianrogue 06-18-08, 01:28 PM For curiousity sake:
h.264 trailer
WTF??? That's a totally different car! :eek: :confused: (And the head looks slightly bigger. Is it a different frame?)
Kram Sacul 06-18-08, 01:35 PM Same frame, incomplete visual effects. The shot in the movie has more debris, a damaged car, and the claw marks on the face glow. The light source on the upper right side of the frame has also been removed.
loregnum 06-18-08, 01:44 PM I guess there's no accounting for taste. I much preferred the female lead to the girl who everbody else is drooling over.
Thank God we don't all like the same girls or there'd be a lot of lonely people out there. :D
Look at it this way: If you and I were the last two men on Earth, and these two girls were the last two females on Earth, you and I would be DELIGHTED with the split. Not too sure how the gals would feel. :-)
I don't find either girl to be anything special (I can walk outside any given day and within 10 mins find someone I'd feel is more attractive) so I hope if I am stuck with you two guys that there is a 3rd lady for me. I'll take Gina Carano so if either you or those two ladies get out of line she will kick all your asses. :)
Kram Sacul 06-18-08, 02:03 PM h.264 teaser [not same frame]
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5131/11808teaserstatuezz9.jpg
so if either you or those two ladies get out of line she will kick all your asses. :)
Sounds like fun! :D
Here's a couple pics of the head from the Paramount lot right before it opened to give a little more idea of scale.
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Kram Sacul 06-19-08, 01:36 PM That's frickin awesome. So they did use an actual prop for a few shots or is it just a mockup?
That's frickin awesome. So they did use an actual prop for a few shots or is it just a mockup?
Yeah, that's the actual prop from the flick. They also had the enitre headless Lady Liberty, which was really cool, but I when I brought my camera it had been taken down. :-(
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lgans316 06-23-08, 10:00 PM Not much of a difference but the BD is obviously clearer and sharp.
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The girl on the right is so hot, she makes the other chick look like a homeless on the subway track.
By the way, great caps Xylon (as usual).
Is that MPEG compression artifacting near/on the faces of the girls in that last BRD capture? The shot isn't big enough for me to really tell, but something looks amiss in that area of the image. In fact, now that I really look at it, there's something not quite right about the whole pic. Look at the bottom side of the legs of the girl on the right, and on her arms near the bracelets. I dunno. It looks like macroblocking or something.
Also, is that aliasing on the trashcan or something else?
I know this is picking nits, but hey, that's the name of the game. And the pic is too small for me to really see what's happening there.
Is this one of the scenes filmed with a low quality handy cam?
whitestang06 06-23-08, 10:55 PM Is that MPEG compression artifacting near/on the faces of the girls in that last BRD capture? The shot isn't big enough for me to really tell, but something looks amiss in that area of the image. In fact, now that I really look at it, there's something not quite right about the whole pic. Look at the bottom side of the legs of the girl on the right, and on her arms near the bracelets. I dunno. It looks like macroblocking or something.
Also, is that aliasing on the trashcan or something else?
I know this is picking nits, but hey, that's the name of the game. And the pic is too small for me to really see what's happening there.
Is this one of the scenes filmed with a low quality handy cam?
This movie does have intentional "artifacting" that was added in post. For example, the trailing effect when Hud swings the camera back and forth while the military guys are opening fire on the creature.
Kram Sacul 06-23-08, 11:21 PM The cameras that were used also did not capture the image losslessly so there's already built in compression artifacts.
Corellianrogue 06-24-08, 12:17 AM Is that MPEG compression artifacting near/on the faces of the girls in that last BRD capture? The shot isn't big enough for me to really tell, but something looks amiss in that area of the image. In fact, now that I really look at it, there's something not quite right about the whole pic. Look at the bottom side of the legs of the girl on the right, and on her arms near the bracelets. I dunno. It looks like macroblocking or something.
Also, is that aliasing on the trashcan or something else?
I know this is picking nits, but hey, that's the name of the game. And the pic is too small for me to really see what's happening there.
Is this one of the scenes filmed with a low quality handy cam?
I was wondering if that was some kind of weird aliasing or something on the bin too or whether it was just a pattern on the metal that you can't see on the DVD because of the lower resolution.
lordcloud 06-24-08, 12:21 AM The girl on the right is so hot, she makes the other chick look like a homeless on the subway track.
By the way, great caps Xylon (as usual).
I've seen the girl on the left in other stuff, and she's actually pretty hot to me. But the one on the right is without question the hottest female in the movie. By far. At least to me.
Heads up guys!
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Dave Mack 06-24-08, 10:50 AM I've seen the girl on the left in other stuff, and she's actually pretty hot to me. But the one on the right is without question the hottest female in the movie. By far. At least to me.
I think the woman they go to rescue is pretty awesome looking myself.
:)
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