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blagosaurous
06-15-08, 08:41 AM
So I finally put my CRT on the ceiling (that was an event in-itself) and now I need some longer 5 BNC cables to run to my source.

I had bought some cheap cables from Monoprice to begin with so my first instinct was to just buy a longer set from them but they are out of stock until the middle of next month http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10203&cs_id=1020304&p_id=574&seq=1&format=2

This is the closest replacement site I've found but they are double the price - it looks like exactly the same cable http://www.pccables.com/cgi-bin/orders6.cgi?action=Showitem&id=ID5394929&partno=00662&search=5_BNC&rsite=pccables.com&rcode=

Anyone aware of any other cheap 5 bnc to 5 bnc retailers that I'm missing? bluejeanscables wants like $115 for a 25ft run. My projector was only $500 to start with; I'm not paying that. I'm a poor recent college grad.

blagosaurous
06-15-08, 11:25 AM
I'm not running anything for boost. I had previously placed my transcoder on top of my PJ and now that it's hanging from the ceiling I have a box placed under it so that the cable can reach.

I would really prefer to run the 5 bnc cable to the front of my room by the screen where my reciever and everything is. I could bring it closer but then I would have electronics right in the walkway and it would require a extra shelf or something so it wouldn't look like crap.

No way I'm paying $100 for cables. Monoprice has them for $16

v1rtu0s1ty
06-15-08, 11:29 AM
Here is my experience. I currently have 110 ft run of five RG6QS cables for sending RGBHV signal from my HDDVD/HTPC to the family room. I don't see any signal degradation.

Vic C
06-15-08, 04:35 PM
I have a 35 foot run in my theater fed from a DVDO HD+

There is nothing for boost and there is NO loss. At 35 feet the only way there would be loss is if you plugged you RGB cables into a VGA output of a poor video card other wise there should never be a signal loss......The whole point of RGBHV is to allow longer ANALOG runs with the least amout of signal degridation.

Now there is a solution out there to turn your RGBHV run into an HDMI run......IM SO EXCITED about this! but that is for another day.

kal
06-16-08, 11:58 AM
Run HDMI instead and put the HDMI to RGB converter up near the projector. HDMI cables are cheaper. You'll want the converter if you want to do Blu-ray and other HDMI sources anyway.

Kal

Curt Palme
06-16-08, 12:26 PM
$115 for a 25 cable is cheap. Unless you find used on eBay, you won't get cheaper than that.

Vic C
06-16-08, 12:56 PM
Thanks for posting that Curt

I needed somone to back up the pricing on this stuff.

Funny thing this day in AV is the economy sucks but people still want all the bells and whistles but they dont want to pay for it and feel the rest of us are charging too much or are just insane.

The thing is Great audio video costs money and your not going to get a great system if you keep trying to pinch pennies on every purchase.

Buy a home theater in a box and 13" TV that will save you money and give you surround sound and a picture. Is it great? no but you got what you paid for.

MikeEby
06-16-08, 01:06 PM
I would really prefer to run the 5 bnc cable to the front of my room by the screen where my reciever and everything is. I could bring it closer but then I would have electronics right in the walkway and it would require a extra shelf or something so it wouldn't look like crap.

I would rethink that if you can. Having the equipment below the screen with all the flashing LED's can be destracting. I don't know if this would be an option for you but. Here was my solution to keeping my cables short and hide the equipment out of site.

http://www.acdnow.com/theater/rearrow.jpg

I had limited space and wanted to maximize my seating capacity so I built a soffit to hold my gear that is accessible in the third row. The projector is also recessed in the same soffit making the hush box appear not as massive. Under the sheet rock is a steel frames lagged to the ceiling.

http://www.acdnow.com/theater/ScreenView.jpg

A nice benefit was very short cables (4 feet).

Mike

Don_Kellogg
06-16-08, 01:31 PM
PM me if you still need the 5 BNC cables. I have 5 25 foots that I pulled from my theater. They are from Monoprice. I also have a 25 foot 5 RCA and a 25 foot 22 gauge HDMI to DVI cable from Monoprice. I'll make you a really good price on this stuff I have no need for them anymore.

1 HDMI DVI Tin-Plated Copper Cable (22AWG) - 25ft (Gold Plated) [TP]
1 PREMIUM 25FT 5-RCA Component Video/Audio Coaxial 20AWG Cable (5xRG-59/U) w/Fancy connector
5 BNC M/M RG59U - 25ft

I used single BNCs runs to get better gauge wire. These were used with Sony G90 and work perfectly. I moved my JVC RS1 to the back of the theater so I'm replacing the cables with shorter runs, there is nothing wrong with them.

lovebohn
06-16-08, 02:20 PM
or do an ebay search for Canare cables and see what pops up in the used market.

dav99
06-16-08, 02:58 PM
http://www.ocarc.ca/coax.htm

Try the like above and input your cable, you can see the loss your self.

v1rtu0s1ty
06-16-08, 04:15 PM
I would rethink that if you can. Having the equipment below the screen with all the flashing LED's can be destracting.

Mike

+1000 here :) I don't like having equipments below the screen as well. When I do my ht, I will make sure that it's out of the room.

It's totally cool when room is pitch black. When I watch horror movies, I feel like I'm part of it.

Sometimes, I use a book(opened) to cover the LED display on my equipment like the hddvd player. HAHAHA! :P

matrix
06-16-08, 05:30 PM
I have made my own BNC cables with RG6 Quad coax with Augat Snap n' Seal RF connectors. Then I added RF to BNC adapters to the cable ends for the BNC side and RF to RCA adapters to the other end for the source. Works very well on my G70 with no signal degradation.

blagosaurous
06-16-08, 06:42 PM
You guys are silly. The very first post I have linked for you 25 ft 5bnc cables from monoprice for $16 and what looks to be the exact same cable from pccables.com for $30.

I'm sure the stuff that Curt and Vic C is superior but like I said; I bought the projector for $500... no way I'm spending $100 on cables.

I have never in my life noticed any "difference" between brands of cables as far as A/V quality goes - I will say that some cable visually looks better and/or has higher quality and better fitting connectors.
You're feeding me a very big pill that is tough to swallow if you think there will be some video degradation... I've just never seen evidence of it before...

Mike: love the setup. Right now I'm in an apartment though... I really probably shouldn't have even hung the beast but it takes up 1/5th of my living room on the ground :)

Curt Palme
06-16-08, 07:56 PM
Blag- I used to buy similar looking cheapie SVGA to 5 BNC cables to those Monoprice things. 10% failure rate out of the box. I stopped buying them.

I am in no way a cable snob, but there are such things as ringing etc that set cheap cables apart from good ones. I don't subscribe to the $500/ft cables in any way, shape or form though.

v1rtu0s1ty
06-17-08, 01:21 AM
You guys are silly. The very first post I have linked for you 25 ft 5bnc cables from monoprice for $16 and what looks to be the exact same cable from pccables.com for $30.

I'm sure the stuff that Curt and Vic C is superior but like I said; I bought the projector for $500... no way I'm spending $100 on cables.

I have never in my life noticed any "difference" between brands of cables as far as A/V quality goes - I will say that some cable visually looks better and/or has higher quality and better fitting connectors.
You're feeding me a very big pill that is tough to swallow if you think there will be some video degradation... I've just never seen evidence of it before...

Mike: love the setup. Right now I'm in an apartment though... I really probably shouldn't have even hung the beast but it takes up 1/5th of my living room on the ground :)

Go ahead and buy 5 bnc cable from Monoprice.COM! I love it! I have that 25' cable too. I don't see any video quality issues. My monoprice rgbhv(5 bnc) cable is right next to the 4 color white coaxial cable. I should have focused on your post earlier. :P

Keep us posted how it goes! ;)


http://restricted.dyndns.org/myht/images/htgear2.jpg

none74
06-17-08, 12:43 PM
I agree the monoprice cables are good, but don't speak disparagingly of "$100. cables" when you are referring to five conductor, 75ohm video cables with compression fit connectors.
Pricing just the raw components necessary to make a good set of cables fitted with compression fit connectors, you're talking about $35.-$40. in raw material costs ALONE(not including tool costs, and finishing costs like heat shrink and expandable nylon sheathing).
I've made cables from bulk purchased individual wire runs terminated with compression fit connectors, I know the prices of the materials, and I'm a cheap bastard. Even buying old stock heat shrink and expandable nylon tubing, if you want to make cables that look as good as professional cables, its going to cost you.
The monoprice cables are "good" they do the job and are fairly robust, and as cheap as can be, but they aren't as good as a custom made cable with compression connectors simply because of the termination method and materials used. Mostly, you're unlikely to see the effects of the less than ideal cable design and build, but there's always that chance.
To each his own though.
I stopped using anything but my own custom made, compression connector terminated cables because I was tired of buying the same cable more than once, and tired of chasing down failed connections. It costs me more than a cable from monoprice to make my own cables, but they are perfect, and the equal of the cables costing $100.+.

Axatax
06-17-08, 12:59 PM
If there is one cable you shouldn't cheap out on, it's your RGB run to the PJ. This is where you really need to pony up the $100 and get something with Canare/Belden construction. Do as the broadcast industry does and you won't go wrong.

Your Chinese, molded Monoprice VGA cable is also not in-wall rated. If you ever have a fire with this cable behind sheetrock, you may have problems with your insurance company if this cable is discovered.

v1rtu0s1ty
06-17-08, 02:27 PM
If there is one cable you shouldn't cheap out on, it's your RGB run to the PJ. This is where you really need to pony up the $100 and get something with Canare/Belden construction. Do as the broadcast industry does and you won't go wrong.

Your Chinese, molded Monoprice VGA cable is also not in-wall rated. If you ever have a fire with this cable behind sheetrock, you may have problems with your insurance company if this cable is discovered.

If you look at my image above again, 2nd column of BNCs ports on the right, that's a Tributaries cable. That is $400 RGBHV cable(not sure if the price is correct since my friend just gave it to me, that's what he said :p). Honestly, I don't see any difference at all. I like it because it looks so sexy specially the connectors. Very strong as well. The monoprice is thin but does a good job.

However, I do notice some degradation on CAT5 cables when used in audio.

This is she when I first got it.

http://restricted.dyndns.org/tributaries.jpg

blagosaurous
06-29-08, 09:20 PM
Mr. Kellogg hooked me up with some 25 ft BNC cables and some Component cables for a fair price.

I'll post a picture of everything once I have everything cleaned up.

Thanks Don!

Don_Kellogg
06-30-08, 12:39 AM
Glad to be of assistance, good to know they will get some good use. Now if I can find a buyer for my 25 ft 22 Gauge HDMI to DVI cable.