Can you please suggest which below system is better? I will be connecting to Onkyo 606 receiver. My HT room is about 300sf and my budget is around $1000. The system mostly used for movies.

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1) KEF KHT-3005 5.1 system
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2) BIC Acoustech HT-88 Home Theater System
Ht-88 Towers One Pair
Ht-85 Center One Each
Ht-63 Surrounds One Pair
H-100 Powered Subwoofer One Each
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3)Harman Kardon HKTS-18 5.1
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4) Klipsch Synergy Quintet II 5.1
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5) Any other better system for the price range ? :confused:

Please advise.

SAM.

Can you please suggest which below system is better? I will be connecting to Onkyo 606 receiver. My HT room is about 300sf and my budget is around $1000. The system mostly used for movies.

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1) KEF KHT-3005 5.1 system
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2) BIC Acoustech HT-88 Home Theater System
Ht-88 Towers One Pair
Ht-85 Center One Each
Ht-63 Surrounds One Pair
H-100 Powered Subwoofer One Each
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3)Harman Kardon HKTS-18 5.1
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4) Klipsch Synergy Quintet II 5.1
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5) Any other better system for the price range ? :confused:

Please advise.

SAM.

The Acoustech HT-88 system would kill all the others at that price. An Elemental Designs 5.1 system would as well.

I have the Onkyo 606, HT-88's, HT-85, and the eD a2-300, and it is an absolutely stellar system.

If it was my money, I would go with the BIC Acoustech. If you live near Frys, go check out the Infinity Primus 362 which was sold for $299/each speaker and now on clearance at $99/each speaker.

Thanks for your valuable suggestions, now I really consider buying the BIC Acoustech HT-88 Home Theater System at

acousticsounddesign.com/core/view_BigProduct.cfm?pid=1286&w=226

Some how, I like to buy all speakers (side, central and surrounds) from the same company and also I like the looks of BIC Acoustics than Elemental Designs 5.1 system.


At the above site the price for the whole system is 1,159.00 + 119(shipping). Is this price reasonable? Please advice.

Thank you
SAM

I would e-mail them about getting it for $1150 shipped, because you can buy these items through a combination of e-bay and amazon for that price through this very same seller.

HT88 $450 shipped
http://cgi.*********/BIC-Acoustech-HT-88-Tower-Speakers-pair-Brand-New_W0QQitemZ230266105536QQihZ013QQcategoryZ14993QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

These are free shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-Acoustech-HT-85-Center-Speaker/dp/B0018KRLSA******sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=audio-video&qid=1214966820&sr=1-3
http://www.amazon.com/Acoustech-H-100-Front-Firing-Subwoofer-High-Gloss/dp/B0006DNW6U******sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=audio-video&qid=1214966175&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Acoustech-HT-63-High-Efficiency-Horn-Loaded-High-Gloss/dp/B0006DNUOO******sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&m=AED492BX4II6G&s=generic&qid=1214883042&sr=1-23

Include these links in the e-mail and I think they would be happy to sell for $1150 shipped direct from them versus paying all the selling fees from you buying all these items from them through these links.

Edit: The links don't seem to save properly due to length, but do a search an amazon for these and you can find them. The HT-88's are on ebay.

Funny,

This is exactly what I have been researching for a couple of weeks. I'm also going to get the 606, and I would like to spend ~$1000 on a new set of speakers. I currently have the Polk RM6000 (similar to the 6005, i think) 5.1 set, and they are OK but kind of limited.

I'm hoping that spending ~$1000 on a new set of speakers will be noticably different. I'm narrowing down my prospects now and then i'll try to find somewhere to listen to them.

From what I have read, I think choice 1 and 2 would be the most recommended by the folks around here.

Tough decision, but I imagine any of these would be a good upgrade from my entry level Polk system.

Let us know what you decide on!

Thanks for your valuable suggestions, now I really consider buying the BIC Acoustech HT-88 Home Theater System at

acousticsounddesign.com/core/view_BigProduct.cfm?pid=1286&w=226

Some how, I like to buy all speakers (side, central and surrounds) from the same company and also I like the looks of BIC Acoustics than Elemental Designs 5.1 system.


At the above site the price for the whole system is 1,159.00 + 119(shipping). Is this price reasonable? Please advice.

Thank you
SAM

You can do better than that. I got 2 HT-88's, 2 H-75's, HT-85, and H-100 for $1,109 shipped. Email Sound Distributors, I purchased from them, and Acoustic Sound Designs.

Thanks guys for your valuable info. Finally I have ended up buying KEF KHT-3005. It was a difficult decision between BIC vs KEF. But I bought them after lot of thinking, considering my room size(300 SQF), space savings, size, reviews at AVS, CNET and Circuitcity, easy installation, WAF, usage(especially for movies) & finally price I paid(Onkyo SR606B + KEF 3000=$1350 + taxes).

Thanks again for your input on buying my first HT speakers.

SAM.

Sam,

Mind letting me know where you purchased? I'll PM you.

Congrats!

I'm sorry, the BIC's are no more than OK speakers at best.
Just like every other entry level speaker out there, maybe even worse.
To me its a size and looks thing they are trying to push. Look I got 4 drivers and a tweet or horn tweets ain't I cool.
For overall sound quality they can not match the sound quality of the KEF's and there 1/8th the size.

I should just leave this alone, but its getting old.
Wood, even MDF isn't really cheap, nor is it cheap to produce a cabinet with, is it??
How good can the drivers be if you got 5 per, a box, crossover etc at that price, Do the math backwards.
Yeah there are some well overpriced speakers, but when you go cheap, you do get what you pay for!!

I'm sorry, the BIC's are no more than OK speakers at best.
Just like every other entry level speaker out there, maybe even worse.
To me its a size and looks thing they are trying to push. Look I got 4 drivers and a tweet or horn tweets ain't I cool.
For overall sound quality they can not match the sound quality of the KEF's and there 1/8th the size.

I should just leave this alone, but its getting old.
Wood, even MDF isn't really cheap, nor is it cheap to produce a cabinet with, is it??
How good can the drivers be if you got 5 per, a box, crossover etc at that price, Do the math backwards.
Yeah there are some well overpriced speakers, but when you go cheap, you do get what you pay for!!

I'm sorry, but do you actually own a pair of BIC HT-88's? 5 drivers? lol

The KEF is a great system, but to call the Acoustechs OK and overpriced shows tons of ignorance. They easily match the SQ, and hit lower than the KEF satellites ever could.

I have the 88's, 85, 63's, and an eD a2-300 sub, which all came out to about $1000. Are you trying to tell me that the KEF's sub which can hit down to 30 is going to sound better than the eD? If so, you have no idea what you are talking about.

The KEF and the Bic systems are nothing a like. The Bic system has huge floorstanders and good sized speakers all the way around and the KEF has small cubes. It sounds like Sam's decision was heavily influenced by the size of the small KEF speakers, which I'm sure he'll enjoy.

The KEF and the Bic systems are nothing a like. The Bic system has huge floorstanders and good sized speakers all the way around and the KEF has small cubes. It sounds like Sam's decision was heavily influenced by the size of the small KEF speakers, which I'm sure he'll enjoy.

I believe he will as well. I never said the KEF was a bad system, but the poster saying the HT-88's had "5 drivers", were "cheap", "overpriced", and "couldn't match the sound quality" was completely inaccurate.

Guys, Would you please recommend which speaker wire(size?) is better suited for the speakers(KEF-KHT-3005) system? :confused:

Thanks
SAM

I'm sorry, but do you actually own a pair of BIC HT-88's? 5 drivers? lol

The KEF is a great system, but to call the Acoustechs OK and overpriced shows tons of ignorance. They easily match the SQ, and hit lower than the KEF satellites ever could.

I have the 88's, 85, 63's, and an eD a2-300 sub, which all came out to about $1000. Are you trying to tell me that the KEF's sub which can hit down to 30 is going to sound better than the eD? If so, you have no idea what you are talking about.


Oh, just taking in everything BIC has to offer.

Where oh where did I say overpriced to Bic's.
If they offered decent drivers and not Goldwood likes, they'd cost alot more. Underpriced was my intent.
Hitting lower does not make for better speaker. Its how accurate the range they play sounds should be what one looks for. But todays day and age as long as it makes bass, sloppy and all, doesn't matter.
If you look at KEF's ratings, its off axis and does make a difference,even though their small drivers.

Never heard a KEF sub, but eD does not impress me in the least.
But thats another debate. The driver specs run through software suggests eD has a funky way to advertise its specs and Kef again rates there off axis 3 db down.

I've listened to BIC's and put them with Polk entry levels at best.

12-14 gauge is more than fine!

IMO the Bics and the Polks were comparable for ~$500-600 a pair fronts (I liked the Polk slightly better, not a huge horn fan but not repulsed by them either). I can't imagine those mini cubes from KEF will compete at all in full range SQ. However if space is a premium, you make compromises and those little speakers will probably sound great for their size.

[QUOTE=JAD2;14221067]I've listened to BIC's and put them with Polk entry levels at best.

Well, I've owned Polk speakers and I hate to burst your bubble but the BIC Acoustech HT series blows them away all around.


Personal preferences play in here.
Its a highly subjective hobby.
Some people like a face full of high range
Some like boomy bass
Some have to have its go low as possible and don't care about anything else.
Some have to have off axis response, instead sweet spot only listening.
Some have to have clarity over everything else.
Some have to have perfect mids sacrificing everything else.

You have to make compromises because their is no perfect speaker that does it all. So your choice will be with the area YOU must have.

Kefs even though I don't care for the cubes are one of the most neutral sounding speakers I have ever heard. They don't accentuate any frequency range, though they may not goes as low, their clarity, off axis and crisp bass response for the bass they can put out more than makes up for their lacks.

If I am going to buy a speaker because I like the horn in your face, and get quality mid to lower regions I would buy Klipsch, not some wanna a be.

Personal preferences play in here.
Its a highly subjective hobby.
Some people like a face full of high range
Some like boomy bass
Some have to have its go low as possible and don't care about anything else.
Some have to have off axis response, instead sweet spot only listening.
Some have to have clarity over everything else.
Some have to have perfect mids sacrificing everything else.

You have to make compromises because their is no perfect speaker that does it all. So your choice will be with the area YOU must have.

Kefs even though I don't care for the cubes are one of the most neutral sounding speakers I have ever heard. They don't accentuate any frequency range, though they may not goes as low, their clarity, off axis and crisp bass response for the bass they can put out more than makes up for their lacks.

If I am going to buy a speaker because I like the horn in your face, and get quality mid to lower regions I would buy Klipsch, not some wanna a be.

You make very good, informative statements, and then you ruin it by adding an elitist attitude to it and trashing other speakers. It is hard to take someone seriously when they do that.

You make very good, informative statements, and then you ruin it by adding an elitist attitude to it and trashing other speakers. It is hard to take someone seriously when they do that.


Elitist attitude to it???

For saying the Gods honest truth??

There are soooooo many companies out their copy catting, it's not funny.

People trash Bose all the time, why not some of the other brands to be equal?
Same junk $5 drivers, 2 cent cross overs and high prices for what you get. Yeah some people like them and I guess thats all that matters.

But this personal agenda's of buy what I got gets and has gotten real old.
People really need to do this to feel better about what they purchased?
So lets all stand back and listen to buy my really unknown type speakers because they have to be better than a long standing, well known, higher ended company thats well known for SQ when someone whom doesn't know asks the question as done here.

OK:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Elitist attitude to it???
So lets all stand back and listen to buy my really unknown type speakers because they have to be better than a long standing, well known, higher ended company thats well known for SQ when someone whom doesn't know asks the question as done here.
OK:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I know this is a late reply but I have to agree with bhazard here. Jad, you automatically assume just because a company is not as well known as Klipsch, Polk, or Bose that the product they put out is automatically inferior? That is an elitist attitude for sure. Some of the most well known companies out there were unknowns at one point. Heck, I remember when companies like Onkyo first came on the scene. They were nobody at the time but they put out a hell-uva receiver and still do to this day. So for you to assume just because a company isn't as well known as Klipsch or Bose doesn't necessarily mean the product they put out can't be as good if not better. By the way, Bose are probably some of the worst sounding speakers I've ever heard. They are so overrated it's a complete joke. Any person who knows anything about audio will tell you the same. The same people who spend mucho bucks on Bose are the same people who don't know the difference between 14 and 16 gauge speaker wire. LOL!:D

As a recent owner of several BIC products after years of DIY products, I find they follow basic acoustic engineering practices to the letter with no frills. From driver alignment to cabinet geometry, they are sound, and it shows by the bang for the buck.
High efficiency along with very good power handling (and a 7 year warranty), tell you something about their dynamic range.
Where some manufacturers would plow ahead with the same tweeter, for example in all their models, they do well to specialize each with different crossover points for different applications. Impressive for the $$$$.
I couldn't make a speaker as good as some of their models for the same price in parts.